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And why didn't I get the job, after repeated requests???

Perhaps you sounded too needy. Always a turn-off.

I was banned for breaking the abusive language rule a couple of days ago by him (I got into it with a known troll), no warning or anything. I think he's too quick to use the ban-hammer.

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Troll user accused me of only making comments about gun-control. None of my comments are about gun control except the one in the thread we were in.

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Damn, WAY more then I expected!

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Absolutely agree.

Really? i'm on that list.

http://www.reddit.com/r/conspiratard/comments/1049r5/is_conspiratorial_thinking_just_a_manifestation/

Hah, quite a funny thing. Perhaps i should actually troll, instead of simply adding to the debates and participating with sources, trying to protect this sub from even more trolling.

I just find it reprehensible to create a list of those who participate in debate but do not agree with your own opinion. If these people on that list, myself included, simply get heckled because of that list, would that not justify defending yourself, instead of being labeled trolling?

It's just laughable, the state of polarization we have created for ourselves. I'm thinking the conspiratards where right in labeling a lot of folk around here paranoid.

It's always been my opinion that /r/conspiracy and /r/conspiratard should do away with their judgements of each other, instead work together to gather source material and challenge each others opinions, instead, we get lists like this justifying each side, while a class war rages all around us. Divided.

There is a difference between playing devils advocate, or genuinely inciting conversation and discussion, and trolling. Maybe you don't deserve to be on that list, but there are plenty up there that do, by citing bogus sources, by parroting known lies, by forum sliding, and general manipulations.

I half expected to find myself on that list...

I was looking for my name on that list

You aren't special enough. I made the list though. What is my prize?

An advice that will change our life for the better!!1

You need to get out more.

Dude, stilltiredoflibs isn't nolibs

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What do you want me to do to prove it?

I'm stilltiredoflibs, evenmoretiredoflibs, and the original tiredoflibs. I'm not nolibs but I'm amused to know he existed.

Now who is a troll?

"Prove to me the unprovable!" is what you basically said. And when he can't, you'll just be that much more "right", huh?

I'm not sure how I can prove it. I just asked you - what do you want me to do to prove it?

That's a question. What would it take for you to understand I'm not nolibs. I seriously have no idea.

"The monsters are due on Maple street"

I love that story. I always want the old man to get away at the end!

There is no way to prove it... I'm pretty sure dieselphiend has accused me of being numerous other people on here and having conversations with myself.

There is no way at all to prove that you aren't x user, it's the old Hitchens' Razor logic. What can be asserted without evidence can be dismissed without evidence.

Watch out! He'll edit his troll list and put you on it.

My goodness. I made number two?

I'm feeling so emotional right now.

I'd like to thank the Academy of course, and my parents, without whom I wouldn't be here today...

Look at my comments and tell me I am a troll. Well, when people are trolling, I troll them back. Dieslephiend thinks I am a troll because of his own shittyness, not mine. Again, look at his and my interactions and tell me I'm a troll.

I can add "troll" to "cointelpro, professional disinfo agent and shill."

Gotta collect 'em all. Like Pokemon.

Don't feed the trolls. Biggest thing that needs to be said. Don't troll them back, don't reply, ignore, ignore, ignore.

Yeah, but when the troll is just stupid, it's fun to fuck with them. That makes me a troll that is benign to those that come here to actually engage in conversation and debate.

Good points, though.

Care to post why I'm a troll?

I've been on this sub with this account for nearly five months, over 99% of my posts are here, and I've amassed nearly all of my karma here.

Is it because I tend to ask questions instead of instantly believing titles and a single article?

Am I just on this list because you've disagreed with me in the past, and that personally upset you in some way? I vaguely remember your username but I really think you've added me to some giant list of trolls because you may have gotten into a spat with me and didn't like what I had to say to you.

It's frustrating to be a part of this community, have real discussions with people in here about real things, come here every day really one of the only subs I belong to, and be put on some 'troll' list because some guy is upset at something I said to him in the past.

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Maybe I made your list in the first week that I was here, due to summing up this thread as a GLP/ATS clone due to the popularity of the threads when I first got here? Chalk that up to judging a book by it's cover and being aggressive, but calling me a troll for that just seems like you have some sort of personal beef with me.

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False flag or at the very least was already known about ahead of time and wasn't stopped. Not al-qaeda.

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What opinion are you looking for? You realized I never gave my opinion on 9/11 ever, right? Is that why you labeled me as a troll, for that reason alone?

You're looking for my entire opinion on one of, if not the largest conspiracy in history, in a short period of time? lol

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All I do is defend the official narrative? Is that why I'm constantly insulting the U.S. government, supporting Anonymous, bash the MSM and major news outlets?

I feel like you either have me confused with someone else, or rarely read my posts.

I ask a lot of questions when I don't know something, and I don't know how questioning an alternative story is the same as defending the official one. I like to keep an open mind and have my mind changed on things weekly.

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Were explosives used to demo the WTC complex

In my opinion, yes. The way the building fell, based on any amount of research I've seen/done myself, I don't see how that happens without a controlled demolition.

Was Israel involved?

I'd be shocked if not.

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You're kidding right? You're basing all of my posts off of a single thread I made the day I signed up for Reddit?

So I should forever be judged by a single post? Or even a few posts?

Though, something strange is going on here. I used to debate with someone that shared your name almost exactly to a T. And, this was around 8 months ago. You know what I think? I think you changed your name by one character, and have adopted a new strategy.

What am I supposed to do about this? How can I possibly prove this? This seems like the most ridiculous reasoning to label me as a troll and dislike my posts.. Because my name is similar to an old users when you know there's no way I can actually prove that I'm not that user.. Outside of the fact that nearly none of my posts are as arrogant as that thread I made, which I can't do anything about now.

That's simply not reflective of a new user...

It is reflective of a very long time lurker making an account. Not everyone makes an account the day they show up to Reddit. And I didn't feel the need until (at the time) I felt pretty embarrassed because I'd been (like most theorists) labeled as your average YouTube comment instead of as a truth seeker.

You know what I think? I think you changed your name by one character, and have adopted a new strategy. The post above is more in line with what I'm familiar with from you, and it was your first post on this account.

Yeah, and almost none of my posts are along those lines.. When I first made my account here, it was after noticing a string of conspiracy posts that made this place seem like every other conspiracy forum I ever have been to. So in an immature, childish lashing out, I mocked the sub because I was baffled by how much confirmation bias I saw upon entering this thread.

You calling me a troll and being personally upset with me because you think I'm someone else, which I can't even prove is just ridiculous. I admitted that my actions were childish and that I shouldn't have been so quick to judge a long time ago, and I can't do much else about it now. I don't even get the comparison.. Those are the posts you're "used to." So you just made a judgment based on my first post and refused to change your views based on my continuous posting throughout the last 5 months?

You doing that is exactly what I did with this sub, and why I made that thread. I saw a few threads and made an assumption that the entire sub was like that. I just fail to see how you can say that you're used to posts like that, because one post was like that. It just seems like you saw that thread, made the call that I'm a troll, and refused to actually read any of my posts from there on out...

I really think you're being a bit hyperbolic by saying that my posts all reflect a thread I made five months ago when I first made my account... I know it shouldn't matter, but it really bugs me that you're labeling me like that because my name is similar to a different person's name, and because of a thread and a few posts I made a long time ago, and have since acknowledged were petty on my part and I should have given more time to judge before making any rash judgments. I mean hell, if the moderators can do it, have them trace my ip for past reddit accounts - you won't see one from eight months ago with a similar name, and certainly won't see anything other than this account in this sub.

I feel like it's a little unfair for you to make that judgment about me and then ignore any future posts I make. I feel like we share a lot of the same opinions but you don't take anything that I say for what it is, but for posts I once made.

I think it's because you used to be much more sceptical in the past.

Several months I noticed a tendency of you to gradually move away more from that stance. Just my opinion of course, so make of that what you will.

He probably flagged you back then and never re-evaluates his opinions.

Being skeptical is good. I hate it when people use the term skeptical and skeptic in a derogatory fashion. It is much different than someone who ignores evidence, just makes crap up because they dislike a stance or theory, sidesteps legitimate discussion and/or trolls and belittles rather than thoughtfully exchange information.

I think I'm still just as skeptical, just much less of an ass about it (my own opinion I suppose)

I like being skeptical because truthfully I think it's necessary. You can't really search for and find the absolute truth if you're afraid to be skeptical of any story, and just believe whatever it is based on a source or anything like that.

Well, RES shows you have a healthy amount of upvotes from me.

You must be doing something right in my book. Keep it up.

What makes me a troll? I participate in discussions civily in this sub. Sometimes I'll make an off the cuff remark when someone is posting nonsense or being obtuse.

Do you think troll=someone who doesn't share your personal views?

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I was banned

How are you able to make comments here?

I was unbanned after taking it to first 9000sins and then to the rest of the mods.

edit; I am still uncertain who unbanned me, i just assumed it was 9000sins, he seems to be fair.

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Ha. I've already commented over there.

Edit: Oops. No... I commented here. It's hard to keep up with HGT's shenanigans.

Uh oh...i fuckin curse a lot.

Well, if it was a known troll, then you shouldn't feed the trolls. A ban is very heavy handed, so I must reiterate the mantra, don't feed the trolls. Down vote if you must, ignore above all else.

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exactly.

Heres an idea, how about we let the community elect mods?

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Either way is better than what we have now.

Because spambots and astroturfers.

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Astroturfers are something we deal with anyway

no offense, but you've only been with this account for 18 days, and you want to throw off moderation and claim 'self-regulation' will 'fix the market' to use a relevant phrase?

now, I've upvoted you multiple times already, but not on this one.

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I don't think you quite comprehended that second paragraph. He wasn't complaining, just pointing out facts.

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What's the point of this? Are you trolling or do you really think you're portraying the truth?

2 things.

A) I'm still fairly new to reddit, what is astroturfing?

B) one of my old frat brothers was an some crazy it type major who now writes scripts for a larger firm in NYC. Maybe I can have him help you. PM me if interested.

If you use google chrome download the wikipedia search extension so you can just select the text right click and get results.

A) I'm still fairly new to reddit, what is astroturfing?

Don't be so lazy. Google nearly helps 100% of the time, if you are just looking for the meaning of a word or of an abbrevation. Astroturfing

gimme 1 knowlege pls

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You believe that posting to r/reportthespammers does anything?

we expose them, they register 45 new accounts

Tldr: zero moderation will crash the board.

We need mods that are willing to ban assholes and trolls. This is not an experiment in self-government, it is a highly-trafficked quasi-anonymous message board.

I'd agree with that, and I'm a "known government shill" who posts from an underground concrete bunker along with some other people. Apparently.

Yeah, you need to keep spam at bay, so I'd say at least two or three human mods are always advised, especially in a larger subreddit like this.

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The addition of AutoModerator was the begining of the end for the sub.

Don't like someting you see? Don't want others to see it either? Set your shillbots to autopilot and knock said content of the front page.

Thanks AutoMod!

Heh, that's a real quick way for a sub to get shut down. Then the real trolls come out, submit CP, Viruses and compromised sites, Who knows what they would post.

That's a sure fire way to end up with an FBI plant mod.

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Ha! A random bot comment appears.

Presumably mentioning the FBI triggers that.

Actually I never intend to spawn. I lack the egg-laying capacity in any case.

who got their cronyism in my /r/conspiracy?

Well, my big guess...and this is just a guess...is that it was one of the other moderators throw away account. I mean, who is a redditor for 2 years and hasn't comments or posted a single thing? Also, without having posted anything or showing interest in subject matter pertaining to this subreddit, how does that give him cred enough to be a mod. So, like i said, it might be a throw away account because i can't believe the mods would be stupid enough to just let some random person who hasn't even contributed...to be a mod.

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He has thousands of link and comment karma. He has posted plenty, it is just hidden somehow. Which, in my opinion, is worse.

I was thinking about making a thread about this the other day, I'm glad someone else had the initiative.

What is even more disconcerting, is the sudden removal of the AIPAC(r/AmericanJewishPower) link from the sidebar, with no explanation, during the same timeframe.

This isn't the same r/conspiracy we had this time last year. At 80k users, growing by the hundreds everyday, we have gotten too big for our collective britches. The number of dormant shill accounts is likely a high percentage of these new subscribers, AutoModerator ensures that "Forum Sliding" is a highly effective tactic, and now a new moderator that hides all of his comment history.

This sub has been compromised; that should be abundantly clear to anyone paying attention.

I'm waiting for BritishEnglishPolice to show up and say it's ok, s/he approved it, and we shouldn't worry because s/he is not American.

(Reference to the /r/politics Obama-bot takeover.)

It's funny because the English police is inundated with Freemasons and all sorts of nepotism, just like many police forces around the world

Just you wait until the Grand Dragon, I mean the Chief Inspector, hears about this!

Has anyone noticed that alllie has also been added as a mod?

He's a socialist.

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So has emanunnaki. I just can't understand why s/he deleted all comment & submission history.

Edit: I've realized that I had emanunnaki confused with anunnaki77.

Maybe they don't want to leave a trace

We are watching.

But of course.

Curiously, if you go here

http://no.reddit.com/user/pizzaguy6767

and look for its line with emanunnaki in it then follow the link for Screenwritiing. It goes to no.reddit.com which I think is Norwegian. In case it gets deleted, here:

http://no.reddit.com/r/Screenwriting/comments/yn7nz/im_writting_my_first_feature_film_i_need_a/

There is more, but I am not on a witch hunt, just wondering why a possibly non-American mod has to hide their history completely and then goes around moderating others with a heavy delete hand.

lol, fuck this sub

Are we still not in unanimous agreement that this subreddit, like many others, is carefully monitored and maintained by individuals who are mainly focused on reigning in open sedition? Hence the appointment of very liminal overseers.

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Nice try, CIA!

Why are people still labeling me as a troll?

http://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/105swm/new_moderator_emanunnaki/c6aq5rx

I vaguely remember dieselphiend accusing me of being multiple accounts and telling me I had to prove that I wasn't them, which is baffling.

I have been closely monitoring the mod log since we elected them. Emannunaki has removed a couple of submissions, but I reapproved them and asked him not to remove things anymore.

You make it sound like you did this before this submission was posted and this fact got exposed. That's dishonest. You're the fake parade leader in my example here.

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Mods don't have access to IP or email addresses. Just fyi. Only the administrators (hueylewis and the noobs, aka the reddit, inc. employees) can see that.

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Well, I just created a thread where emanunnaki admits to tricking you into making him a mod. So, you tell me, what harm can it do?

Though, I believe this is much more than simple social engineering and manipulation. One of you are in on this.

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I can't post links from my phone, but the name of the thread is "Emanunnaki Removed as Moderator". Surely you can look at my comment/link history.

Unfortunately, he deleted his comments moments later.

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It doesn't matter.

He was a troll/shill that the moderators here gave control of this subreddit to temporarily.

what harm can it bring?

Thats right don't worry about it. Everything is alright. This sub isn't run by disinfo agents. Nothing to see here. Hey look NWO!

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This is kinda how I feel, except I would replace 9000sins with ambiversive:

It seems like its getting uglier, less friendly and ambiversive is on a power trip, tinkering with looks and making it look like shit, appointing mods that have no interest in this sub or maintaining it, and is not allowing anyone to make any decisions at all. He wants a "hands off" style of moderation, which is to say, no moderation at all unless he is doing it. He has removed a few links since he has become a mod, for no apparent reason. [...] I just want to see our sub moderated from within rather than people who never visit/comment/actually moderate here. Being a mod isn't about playing with the way your sub looks, it's about being a leader within the community.

1. "Tinkering with looks and making it look like shit" (Picture on the side, the silly Pyramid crossed out for self-posts)

2. "Appointing mods that have no interest in this sub or maintaining it, and is not allowing anyone to make any decisions at all" (supercede, Automoderator [I thought supercede was made a mod so he could work on cleaning it up but now its difficult to get rid of shitposts and who knows how hard we're being hit with forum sliding] and now emanunnaki)

3. He has removed a few links since he has become a mod, for no apparent reason (Moderation Log of 9000sins showing a vast majority not removed for unstated reasons, whereas if you at Mr. Dong or Sarah_Conner, they are mostly marked as spam)

4. Being a mod isn't about playing with the way your sub looks, it's about being a leader within the community.

Now I accept that I don't know if it's you who chooses the pictures on the side of the shitty self-post logo. But we the people have had no choice or say in any of the decisions made here over the last few months. And why was supercede brought in the first place? /r/conspiratard have always been a problem, could it be a false flag in order to make us accept your changes, idk. And then a week later Automoderator gets put on and that makes it a hell of a lot easier to remove stuff with keywords that are not desired in discourse on this sub.

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It wasn't my decision to promote these guys to mod status, it just came about naturally. I did approve both of them though, as well as supercede and sunshine-x and Sarah_Connor.

No, it didn't come about naturally since no input was taken. I specifically remember the thread where supercede was nominated by sunshine-x and you come along and approved.

To say that you would swap me for the previous mod who ran this place into the ground is very insulting

You have become in many ways like him and many of us on this sub are aware of it.

Go ahead and keep it up man.

Oh snap, when can I expect the FBI at my door?

"We" meaning "you and 9000sins". Too bad we can't ask you to step down, since you've proven you can't be trusted.

A) I'm still fairly new to reddit, what is astroturfing?

Don't be so lazy. Google nearly helps 100% of the time, if you are just looking for the meaning of a word or of an abbrevation. Astroturfing

If you use google chrome download the wikipedia search extension so you can just select the text right click and get results.

I think it's because you used to be much more sceptical in the past.

Several months I noticed a tendency of you to gradually move away more from that stance. Just my opinion of course, so make of that what you will.

He probably flagged you back then and never re-evaluates his opinions.

I love that story. I always want the old man to get away at the end!

He's a socialist.

Were explosives used to demo the WTC complex

In my opinion, yes. The way the building fell, based on any amount of research I've seen/done myself, I don't see how that happens without a controlled demolition.

Was Israel involved?

I'd be shocked if not.