The Mother of All Conspiracies
258 2012-10-04 by ninjas333
Dear fellow truth seekers, I think I've figured it out. Of all the years I've spent researching alternative subjects in a quest to get a bead on this whole reality business, I think enough pieces just finally fell into place that explains perfectly so much of the bizarre, and perplexing behavior and events we've been seeing and have been subjected to now for decades.
It is highly unlikely that, what with billions of primates all banging on keyboards simultaneously across the planet, that this particular epiphany is entirely and originally mine. However, I will lay it out as it has originally come to me, and I can think of no other place to "throw it out there" then here (In other words, I apologize if you've heard of this all before, or have come up with it in some form or fashion on your own)
Having said that, here is my conspiracy theory that glues it all together:
Our dependence has been deliberately engineered and our economy, as we understand it today, is a contrivance, conjured from thin air. The whole entire thing is a sham; a sham that has been deliberately rigged from the start that we have all been forced and conditioned to participate in. And that is the heart of this conspiracy theory: we can't NOT participate in their contrived socio-economic game. Well, we can, it's just very, very difficult to live in this country without playing some small role in the game they've all engineered. The exit doors to independence have all been sealed shut - they've seen to that, and that's what I mean by rigged.
And I say Forced Participation, for, if we do not participate in their economy, their contrived game collapses - so they've done everything they can to keep us "on the field," as it were. Of course there are people who are living off the grid, but you need a very special skill-set to live effectively that way, and guess which skills we AREN'T taught in public school?
The captains of industry from around the time of the Great Depression needed grubs to manufacture their junk. They needed monkeys smart enough to push the buttons and run the machinery but not smart enough to start asking questions. For the ones smart enough to ask questions, they instituted the standard 40 hour work week to keep us too busy and tired from scrambling around to ask questions.
Public schooling was instituted to indoctrinate us into a culture that submits to authority and discourages critical and free thinking. History class was notoriously all about memorizing names and dates. By deliberately instilling the notion that history was always very boring to the student, curiosity was retarded, and further study into the subject by the individual on their own time was all but squashed. Mathematics is the same way. They couldn't do anything about the students who just naturally "got it," but they made sure that the material was delivered much in the same way. They deliberately designed mathematics to be so unapproachable, that anyone who didn't "get it," would never return to study the subject further. To those students who got math, maybe the 40 hour work week, families and mortgages would keep them too busy to ask questions.
After all, what are the two most dangerous subjects for ANY government's citizens to be effective with? History and mathematics. From history, we learn to spot the mistakes governments have made before, and mathematics helps us to spot when we're being lied to. (You see, governments LIKE making mistakes, as I get into further, and they need to be able to lie in order to make them)
Also, by controlling the curriculum, they controlled the narrative. For example, Edison was a thief, and a dropout who hated book learning. Tesla gave us the 20th century on a silver platter and studied hard. How else do you explain Edison being lauded as a hero and never even hearing of Tesla in school? That's certainly the narrative I heard.
They engineered a lot of racial tension as well, because any population that is united is the only real threat to any powers that be. We are deliberately kept fragmented and divided, and the 3 social classes were engineered to protect them from us all wising up to their vile scheme.
The people in lower class would be too busy getting shafted and blaming the middle and upper classes to be asking any questions.
The people in middle class would be kept too busy at their salaried jobs and mortgages to be asking any questions.
The people in upper class would be too busy shafting the lower and middle classes, and keeping their money from the government, to be asking questions.
Just the way the CoD's want it.
Our exits to independence from the shackles of this game, have effectively been welded shut with a laser-like precision on just the right doors. Look how hard it is to generate your own power. To grow your own food. To stitch your own clothes. To live without a car or a residency. Convenience becomes mandatory in a nation with a 40 hour work week, so we're also in large part discouraged from becoming self-reliant. Who has time for that?
If we crafted everything we needed, we wouldn't need to be paying the captains of industry for their junk, that they have all effectively forced us to buy. THIS is why hemp is illegal. Notice there, that I used the word "hemp," not marijuana. If you could grow everything you needed in your back yard, (fiber, fuel, food) you could effectively decouple yourself from their contrived economy. If you could stitch your own clothes with hemp, you wouldn't need to drive your car to the mall and buy clothes that the captains of industry expect you to buy.
You have to have residency to do anything. In order to acquire residency, you have to have credit, and in order to get credit, you have to prove that you are able to manage and live in debt. That's because our economy can conjure wealth out of thin air - not for you, but for those who are in charge of it. And if we're all too busy being in one of those economic classes, armed with a hatred of history and mathematics, being pissed off at each other because of the color of our hides, no one will ever stop, and look up to see who's really doing the shafting, and unite under a cause of putting an end to the game that enslaves us all.
Since it's generally in every government's best interest to continue existing, it therefore stands to reason that they will manufacture problems to justify their further existence (and funding). That's why nothing ever really changes. There really wasn't a big difference between Bush and Obama. It's still business as usual. Sure, they put up a good facade about an issue here and there, but at the end of the day, nothing changes. The government's job is to create and exacerbate problems, because it is in any government's best interest to do so.
If the government solved our problems, there would be no further need for government. It's just like any organism that wants to survive, and will do anything it can to continue doing so.
So, our problems are here to stay.
Anyway, that's the gist of my "Mother of All Conspiracies"...I'm running out of space and I'm sure no one's read this far anyway. If you have read this far, thank you for your time and consideration. I know in my heart of hearts that even if all of this is patently untrue, I am, nonetheless, onto something here. At any rate, I do believe that whether or not I'm right, the veil is indeed beginning to drop..
179 comments
97 VanillaPudding 2012-10-04
Welcome my son, welcome to the machine.
What did you dream?
It's alright we told you what to dream.
~Pink Floyd (1975)
10 rcrracer 2012-10-04
Meet the new boss.
Same as the old boss.
~The Who (1971)
6 pearljamman010 2012-10-04
Holy hell, that's one of the best ways to put this that I have heard. Thank you!
4 zota 2012-10-04
Machines were the weapon
Employed by the capitalist
To quell the revolt of specialized labor.
1 provoked_pinion 2012-10-04
This guy!
76 [deleted] 2012-10-04
Congrats on waking up :-) Welcome to the party.
12 SonGarwood 2012-10-04
welcome to the party pal
12 maxp0wah 2012-10-04
McClane?
1 MyIQis2 2012-10-04
Seriously... i fucking LOL's hard.
-2 SutekhRising 2012-10-04
Nah. I think he's full of shit.
-13 [deleted] 2012-10-04
more like, congrats on getting high for the first time and posting a TLDR
6 WashingtonParadise 2012-10-04
How is that fucking constructive?
14 dudewheresmyreality 2012-10-04
welcome to r/conspiracy
-5 WashingtonParadise 2012-10-04
He's just projecting his dislike of certain chemicals and attacking others out of his own insecurities.
Fools priding themselves on ignorance. We cannot stand for it.
2 MyIQis2 2012-10-04
Yeah, I agree. When you get high it pulls you away from a comfort zone. I have this "theory" you can say about smoking weed and how certain people are effected by it. 15 years old, smoked weed, tripped out; had existential crisis, insomnia, severe headaches, and severe constantly rushing thoughts. All of this sent me to the my Dr's frequently and I was considered for psychiatric evaluation, most likely schizophrenia. I'm 20 years old now, have slowly gotten over my problem through self guided metitation, reading, studying philosophy, and deep introspective self reflection spiritually. This helped the panic attacks cease. I noticed that certain people do have an anxietal response to marijuana, but I was wondering what it was that actually triggered it. I don't think it's the marijuana itself, a drug's effect is never soley responsible on the drug, it takes a reaction; several variables. I was wondering if smoking weed broke through several spiritual boundaries, ans caused sever anxiety in those who weren't able to cope with the reality yet, because they've ignored it. I'm not saying those who can comfortably smoke weed are "awake," but maybe it's that these people are better at safeguarding the fagility of the humam mind by retaining the illusion of safety.
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34 sumdog 2012-10-04
True. The expansion of civilization is symbiotic. Education is, for the most part, a positive thing. Math isn't as accessible because higher math is actually quite difficult, and it should be. Do you want someone who doesn't know how to take the area under a curve to be building your bridges or pace makers?
I also don't like the OP's constant use of them and they. Who are they? It's not one secrete organization or cabal controlling the world. It's lots of people who have power that fight to gain more. Many of them aren't even aware of the evil they do. Some of them are even nice people (watch The Corporation, 2003 -- with the CEO of Shell). But the group think mentality of a corporation or government, plus the separation between leaders and workers, tends to create conditions where people are shit upon.
Also, the 40 hour work week was fought for by labor unions. Some countries are even down to 37. A lot of startups try to push to 45 hours, but studies have shown extending the work week is often counter productive. Before 40 hours, people would work over 80 hours a week (and in some factories in China, they still do)
The situation is a lot more complex than people give it credit for. We need education, everyone should be able to read and write and do math, but we don't need indoctrination. The desire for more wealth leads to taking wealth from others (or convincing them to give it to you willingly). We make stuff that breaks so we can see more of it, instead of making things that last forever so we can move on to new ideas without worrying about having to replace the old ones every five years. There is so much we could do...
6 OverviewEffect 2012-10-04
You need more upvotes for this.
There is not one group plotting to enslave millions. If there was I would love just 15 minutes of conversation with them as they would be easily the smartest people to have existed.
I think some people have good intentions but you cant please everyone all of the time.
1 BananaPeelSlippers 2012-10-04
haha, except there are, and they arent secret, club of rome, cfr, chatham house. these are all groups who have publicly stated policy to move the world to a centralized collectivist one world government, this is fact, wake up to it. Ill send you some links if you doubt me.
2 CapnScumbone 2012-10-04
how do these groups tie into the Rothschild banking clan?
1 BananaPeelSlippers 2012-10-04
follow the money
5 CapnScumbone 2012-10-04
it's not exactly transparent to the public...
2 BananaPeelSlippers 2012-10-04
really?
http://www.cfr.org/
http://www.chathamhouse.org/
http://www.clubofrome.org/
3 CapnScumbone 2012-10-04
neat. thanks.
2 Ebenzer 2012-10-04
I live in Canada and i work 84 hours a week. If you don't have enough time to educate yourself with a 40 hour work week, you're hopeless.
1 [deleted] 2012-10-04
What do you do for a living?
3 angryhaiku 2012-10-04
During the day s/he runs a spinning jenny, at night a cotton gin, and on the weekends s/he's a matchstick girl.
1 JemCarey 2012-10-04
I don't think its about the labor unions, or marriage for gays, or any other thing that occurs in society that seems to be a win despite numerous devastating losses in every other facet of society. I know it may not be a great way to live but you really have to judge people and situations by motive. Having a hidden agenda and doing one thing to achieve a complete other is a perfect tactical move in acquiring any goal. For example. Creating a war on terror allows us to fight a war that has no clear end, and helps justify the means of strengthening our force and morale for doing so. The fight between good and true evil lies in POWERS and PRINCIPALITIES, the people who run the world satisfy the evil in them by being ingenious psychopaths. It's quite very possible there is really only one group of individuals is running the show and you don't need to really look far as to how that's working. Just look at a power structure of any company, club, university, secret society and the most potent of them all "family". Bloodlines are sometimes kept in pristine order and you can see enough about these families if you look deep enough. We do have to be more CRITICAL of our government. 11 states have more people on welfare then they do working, those primary states won obama his selection and says one huge thing. The government is winning at capturing the minds of those who are 100% dependent on them. In a real world where we could actually evolve as a society and as being we would have free energy, no government, and complete independence from the tassels of what we know today. Star trek is a great example, Free unlimited energy was established and food was no longer an issue. Fuel was not. Energy as a whole was not. People were free from the mundane to pursue their dreams. Now if someone was in control of you. Do you think they would let that be invented? Do you think they would let you arm yourself and do you think they would let you grow marijuana to satisfy your majority of medical needs. Do you think they would destroy religion and convince you to stop having kids? To destroy the morals of the natural world. The point is our world could be much more free and we could thrive however thats not what THEY want.
19 highdra 2012-10-04
It's true that "a group of people can produce more overall if each person specializes in what they are good at", but we're not producing more for ourselves, we're merely producing more profits for the people who own us, those who "call the shots". I understand how important communities are for allowing people to specialize, but at the same time they can grow too big (like the global "community" you see today) and we can forget why we would have wanted to form a community in the first place. Basically, I think that the "comparative advantage" has a point of diminishing returns when it grows too large. Yes, we will continue to "produce" more but eventually we lose control over what we're producing and become enslaved by the system we built.
12 Telsak 2012-10-04
Couldn't you also argue that a person that lives off-grid is also a slave, but to those circumstances? You have no choice but to go fishing or hunting or growing your own food, or you will DIE. You have no choice but to <insert thing here> or you will DIE. How much time would you have for craftsmanship and/or intellectual pursuits in a situation like that?
10 highdra 2012-10-04
No, because being a "slave" implies that someone else is exploiting the work you are doing and making money (or gaining power) from it. I would be happy to be a "slave" to nature because I owe it everything for my existence. I can't find anything to back it up now, but I've read (and believe) that indigenous people have more leisure time than "civilized" people. Obviously they're all different so I can't make generalizations... but I mean, they obviously had music, and art and stuff... they must have had some time to do it. And then people always say well blah, they had short life expectancies and had to kill their kids when they couldn't feed them and they fought each other and they weren't perfect... yeah obviously, they're people, I don't fall for the "noble savage" thing. I'm not saying we should go back to the stone age, I'm just saying it is possible to live in accordance with the laws of nature.
7 Telsak 2012-10-04
Good point. It would be nice if we could combine the two. Being able to chose to live 'free' and at the same time contribute to the greater whole in some way. Either offering services like craftsmanship or teaching to trade for something you desire. Then the people who would be considered rich would be those with actual skills and knowledge.
8 highdra 2012-10-04
I think a truly voluntary society would be a step in the right direction. Certainly not the end of our problems though.
0 Desinis 2012-10-04
I think that urbanization needs to cease its expansion. Cities are massive drains on resources, and consume/pollute far more than they benefit. The main reason they developed is so that people could jump into the 9-5 lifestyle.
3 OverviewEffect 2012-10-04
You want that to be the measure of true wealth? Then actually believe it. you can certainly do that today. easily in fact. however, if you are too afraid of what others may think, or worried about not being able to get that sweet new gaming console youve already attributed wealth as having a lot of money and a lot of stuff, and you have lost.
the older you get the more you will value life-fulfilling things. Then, you will realize you spent way too much time trying to figure out who was to blame on leading you astray rather than actually pursuing interests and quality skills that made you a better person to your fellow humans and yourself.
you can succeed in the game and succeed in life, just focus on what is actually important.
3 DocHopper 2012-10-04
A person living "off the grid" still must pay taxes.
0 riseagainst2615 2012-10-04
There are many articles like this that say you don't .
3 Pitrestop 2012-10-04
This system is at the heart of prosperous economic development though... especially for countries that can't normally compete, production wise, with developed countries.
3 Sarah_Connor 2012-10-04
There is a difference between an exploitative system and a sustainable system.
Your argument is one-dimensional; Sure, groups do better. This is why we evolved civilization!
Civilization is a positive system - its where we derive civil, civics, etc...
A parasitic system is one that hides within a host and feeds on it.
Our current position is that of a civilization hosting a parasite (greed) and being exploited in dramatic fashion.
1 [deleted] 2012-10-04
a parasite with the power to shape culture
2 CheeseBro 2012-10-04
I don't think anybody figured out how to build a computer on their own.
-3 AliceHouse 2012-10-04
pretty sure that's exactly what bill gates did. but i could be wrong, i did go to an american public school :)
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1 AliceHouse 2012-10-04
like i said, i dunno. they don't teach things like that in american public school.
now the holocaust, i could tell you all about that.
1 BananaPeelSlippers 2012-10-04
but, laws and regulations have been set up to make it harder for an individual to take a product, figure out a bigger way to make it, and do their own thing, the individual is dissuaded from trying, you cant deny that.
23 iamnotallthatbad 2012-10-04
I wanted to post a wall of text similar to this one, except that it was based on science, physics, biology, philosophy and metaphysics, trying to explain the state of humanity, our limitations, the real world, hierarchy of species and meaning of life. Half way through I realized that only Philosophers, Buddhists and New-Agers would find my reasoning NOT crazy. I have some scientific arguments as well, but regardless there is and always will be room for skepticism unless one day we'll wake up with abilities to read each-others minds. If anyone cares to hear the 'mother of all conspiracies', I wouldn't mind explaining it.
Edit: Oh wow. I wrote this quite late. There wasn't anything here so I went to sleep. Woke up to this sea of comments. I'll make a new post on the subject as soon as possible, because it might get discussion going. I would also want to apologize to ninjas333 if this derailed the conversation too far away. I appreciate and respect the views presented here; these thoughts could have very well be my own now and many years ago. I found this all interconnected on many deep levels and decided that I should offer an opportunity to take a look down the rabbit hole as I see it.
Edit2: I made the post here.
3 [deleted] 2012-10-04
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7 Sarah_Connor 2012-10-04
(A little random - had great wine this night..)
I'm a mod on /r/conspiracy. I was raised on a commune. I am a techie in silicon valley. I am apolitical. I am an objectivist and humanist. I am a member of the Mayan Order. I am a seeker of understanding and through my understanding a seeker of wisdom. All of these are traits, not labels.
I was lucky - the commune was corrupted after we left and was consumed by drugs and other things. It lost its meaning and its center.
Why?
Uneducated humans encroached.
The MOST important thing in this life is education. Information is a component of education - education is a process by which a human digests information and builds an emotional/intellectual/spiritual body.
Food feeds your physical body, and the ingredients in that food are crucial to your physical health. Information feeds your intellectual body. Poor ingredients fail to nourish your spiritual body. Introspection feeds your spiritual body. Poor thinking ability fail to nourish your spiritual body.
(Do not mistake spiritual with 'religious' - spiritual is the understanding of your relationship to all that is, in every facet and dimension. The following may help you understand what spiritual represents: "Everything you are is made from this universe, but the universe is not made from everything you are - know your relationship to this universe as it is the sum of your parts. The beauty of existence is discovering more and more about the sum of its parts!" - this is the basis of all science.)
The OP has awakened.
2 bozobozo 2012-10-04
Thank you. Thats the argument for spirituality I've been searching for.
5 Surferly91 2012-10-04
We should create an experiment, and pitch as if it's "for science!!!" but in reality, it's a place where we can live as truly free humans.
So we find a nice plot of land and gather say 1-3 thousand? This plot of land should be undeveloped. We all set a date, and we move there. Then our scientific experiment begins. We build our own world. No power over others, just collective communication for te advancement of our society.
Haha would be cool. Hopefully it would work and show the rest of the world what bs they live in.
2 eggrole 2012-10-04
http://www.ic.org/
3 WashingtonParadise 2012-10-04
Many people do not know that science, while very useful, is not th entire picture. I say this as a professional scientist. My coworkers are seldom scientists, but rather science is their religion.
3 Borpilux 2012-10-04
It is very common for people to quote scientists, scientific studies, and ask the same whenever any proof is needed on a 'science' related topic. These people have no idea how dependent scientist, labs, journals, and entire departments are on grant money. Who doles out this money? Are there strings, or directions, attached? Yes, frequently, especially in some fields.
2 iizzkozeh 2012-10-04
Just a self reminder to read this.
0 Booperelli 2012-10-04
I am interested!
0 Anokey 2012-10-04
Please do. We all need to share as much as we can.
0 Ivegotlevitation 2012-10-04
Post it up man. Who cares if only the fringes understand it.This is a home for things like that.
0 vjjinmymouth 2012-10-04
Joseph Campbell.
18 herpaderp2026 2012-10-04
I have noticed this as well. More and more people are asking questions and figuring it out.
These realizations make me very happy.
Good submission! Well thought out and a joy to read.
9 lens0029 2012-10-04
Our numbers are growing very quickly compared to other subreddits. I agree people are starting to wake up.
1 danarchist 2012-10-04
I think people are just remembering. The nationalistic "'Murica! Love it or leave it!" sentiment was brainwashed in, but people are beginning to remember that we were once a free people.
Groucho Marx was not the only one who knew government was a fraud.
10 TerryTheTurtle 2012-10-04
This is the most intelligent thing I have read all day. Thank you Op. More and more people need to understand that this is our reality. Perhaps not 100%, but beyond a shadow of a doubt there is truth in your words here. Orwell's 1984 is on the horizon. We need to stand together as a people. Do not be afraid to reach out to others. Do not be afraid to seek the truth.
3 SonGarwood 2012-10-04
I think I am more afraid of the brave new world than 1984. 1984 seems so distinct that its us vs them. While a brave new world seems to play on the suddle nature of destruction. Too be honost I think it starts with a brave new world leading up to 1984. I wish the powers that be werent so suddle about control other wise more people would wake up then again these powers arent new to the game and know how to play the angles. Its when ppl start to organize is when we can get the ball rolling and not anarchy just local pride.
5 Desinis 2012-10-04
I agree. We're nearly in the same state as Brave New World currently, but I think that the powers-that-be are going to become more 1984-esque as soon as that ball starts rolling. It really needs to soon.
PS; Subtle*
1 TerryTheTurtle 2012-10-04
I think you are correct in your sentiment here.. There needs to be a revelation among the people; a genuine grass roots movement. I feel that is the only way that we will attempt to get anything done. And not rioting or anarcy as you said. We need organization and unity. Not mindless mobs.. Although with the NDAA and the Trepass act.. I feel things are only going to get more difficult for us. Thats what they want after all.
10 WTCMolybdenum 2012-10-04
Salient and complete. Writing it down can be a sweet release. Thanks for sharing.
7 Pitrestop 2012-10-04
"designed mathematics to be so unapproachable" what do you mean? It's either math or not math.
1 q100 2012-10-04
read this: http://www.maa.org/devlin/LockhartsLament.pdf
5 [deleted] 2012-10-04
In order to study music, you need math. Math is literally, everything. Language of the universe.
2 Pitrestop 2012-10-04
I see his point, I had never thought math could be looked at from such an angle (I hated math)..
5 SOL-arSentient 2012-10-04
I read it all. Made me a bit more depressed. Good job OP.
but seriously are we just destined to be in servitude forever?
6 [deleted] 2012-10-04
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2 pursurveer 2012-10-04
TV is filled with nonsense/bullshit and i'm pretty damn sure that we would be healthier and smarter living out on our own.
6 beastrabban 2012-10-04
No you wouldn't. You would probably die in ten years from eating a diseased squirrel.
2 frostek 2012-10-04
Or a rotten tooth can do you in quite effectively.
1 pursurveer 2012-10-04
I don't think so...
1 Psycon 2012-10-04
Living alone would not be the way to do it. If you had a decent sized group of like-minded people, and you had access to necessary resources, after establishing a settlement, life would be pretty easy. You would need to work around four hours a day to maintain a colonial standard of living. At which point you could sell goods like the Amish do to cover expenses.
1 AliceHouse 2012-10-04
many have tried and failed. though more often then not, for purely human reasons. from selfishness, to lack of planning.
in some ways, it gives a bit of credence to the amish god.
0 junkmale 2012-10-04
The difference is that you are serving only yourself/family vs. a boss, board, stockholders, etc... But I agree with your overall point. At least as a slave we have Reddit. And Reddit is all we really need :p
-7 shummire 2012-10-04
Have you ever read the Qur'an?
3 AliceHouse 2012-10-04
i have. explain why that is relevant. i'm curious.
0 shummire 2012-10-04
We are going to be in servitude forever, except servitude to God. But it's not depressing unless you don't believe in God and His Mercy. If you don't believe in His Mercy, then you don't benefit from His Mercy meaning heaven after death. Are you Muslim, AliceHouse?
1 AliceHouse 2012-10-04
ah... i figured that's you meant. and i agree. i was just curious if the koran pertained more to the original post or not.
i'm sort of a muslim maybe. probably not by a lot of people's standards. i can't read or speak arabic. i don't salaat. i eat pork and drink. but at the same time, i do pray in earnest to god. and i believe there is no god but god and that Muhammad was his final prophet.
1 shummire 2012-10-04
Well, the shahada is the most important thing imo. I was eating pork and drinking too when I said the shahada but then I eventually stopped after I started salaat. Join us in /r/islam if you have any questions.
5 [deleted] 2012-10-04
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2 SpasticusAutisticus 2012-10-04
If you put a leading slash, it automatically becomes a link e.g.
/r/agorism
5 godiebiel 2012-10-04
The Onion
4 [deleted] 2012-10-04
This is exactly how they manage to extisguish the natural human drive for freedom. The game that is being played right now is the Petrol-Dollar game. It is coming to an end, as games always do. I wonder what game they will play with us next?
1 TheSelfGoverned 2012-10-04
Authoritarianism. High taxes, little freedom, and police suppression of populist movements.
The 'prosperous ignorant empire' phase is coming to a close.
1 AliceHouse 2012-10-04
or perhaps enlightenment, an age of self actualized individuals as the primary populace where each citizen is a responsible and knowledge being.
1 DownWithIMGUR 2012-10-04
Have you seen Honey Boo Boo? Not this generation.
1 AliceHouse 2012-10-04
that's like saying... have you ever seen Avengers? Clearly, we need strong immigration laws.
4 dreamslaughter 2012-10-04
"what with billions of primates all banging on keyboards simultaneously across the planet" is why the veil is beginning to drop.
5 bad2bone2212 2012-10-04
Maybe why they are trying to limit Internet? O_o
1 Anokey 2012-10-04
Definitely. We're not going to let them either.
4 BudderFM 2012-10-04
When you look back over history you find that this sort of thing is inevitable, expected even, after we stopped being hunter gatherers and domesticated ourselves. That there will always be people at the top, people at the bottom, everyone else in between and that those above will, more than likely, mistreat those beneath them to maintain their position. Truthfully, after you've pained over the direness of our species' seemingly long & protracted incarceration throughout history, long and hard, have done all the research, wrestled with difficult concepts and such, you invariably arrive at the conclusion that what we have, in the most part, is a natural order being naturally manipulated by those who find themselves at the top of it, and that everyone else is just as responsible for it as the next person - and that includes the minority of individuals resting atop the shit pile we triumphantly label civilisation!
4 Psycon 2012-10-04
I think you are right on all points. And I'd like to add that the federal government and any centralized corporate run government like it, has been carefully designed by the elite to be a massive and insurmountable maze of bureaucracy.
This is how they are able to hide the massive fraud, corruption, and siphoning of wealth within the system. It is all just a foil, a distraction to keep the masses from realizing that the power exists within them to govern themselves simply and fairly. People are enslaved to this system, because it gives them just enough freedom and prosperity to hang themselves with.
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2 YouthInRevolt 2012-10-04
Just finished it! I feel like if r/conspiracy existed in that book, the elites would all claim that our test tubes were given a bit too much alcohol like Bernard Marx...
4 Thevents 2012-10-04
I think one thing you have left out is that the masses that are too stupid to figure this out are actually too stupid to find things like math or history interesting. They can't think for themselves which makes them in need of being told what to think and what to do. They are dependent because they are incapable of independence. They like their servitude. You ever notice that the poorest people are the ones with the God, Guns, and Country bumper stickers? They'd also get furious if you try to wake them up and tell them all wars are just rich people using poor people to get stuff - they're too dumb to get this. The weird thing is that these people actually do need to be controlled - they are stupid herd animals that get violent very easily (think "Walmart Christmas Riot"). So the whole system actually works out pretty well except for unfortunate people with IQs above 120 that have read a book on their own from time to time. I guess what I am saying is that in my opinion there is no formal conspiracy - no secret meeting took place in which they decided to make history boring anymore than they decided to get the country fat so that no one could runaway. Its just the natural outcome from most people being dumb and in need of being led.
3 hanahou 2012-10-04
Another convert! Welcome my son to the real world. Now you must be prepared to be crucified by all those who think you are a nut job.
3 honkimon 2012-10-04
I read the whole thing. Disagree on the hemp for clothes bit though. You'd need some fancy machines and not just a back yard to make it usable for clothes that aren't itchy
2 auraofambiance 2012-10-04
You can use the old method of soaking rough cloth in human urine. Softens it right up. No itch.
2 Sarah_Connor 2012-10-04
Whats this process called? Wikipedia article?
1 auraofambiance 2012-10-04
It is how wool was treated in the middle ages to make clothing. Ill have to search for it.
3 friendlysoviet 2012-10-04
Lol Rousseau believes you're several centuries late to the party lol
3 yahoo_bot 2012-10-04
Complete junk. If you think there is a conspiracy to buy "junk" like say clothes, chairs, TV's, etc... you really need your head examined.
We buy "junk" because we can't produce "junk". This is because we have one body and can only do so much with it. Second we can only have certain amount of knowledge and third we can only have certain amount of materials, because materials and finite.
So your whole realization is based on falsehoods and complete lack of understanding of basic human and natural concepts.
1 godiebiel 2012-10-04
Don't be so hard, the OP did a good job on being coherent with his reasoning, better than David Icke at least !!
The "conspiracy" is making you think you "need" that "junk" in order to live a full-life (American dream), marketing and media manipulation.
Today such consumption patterns isn't enough to sustain profits, leading to today's unproductive speculation, e.g. stock markets account today for over 30% of US GDP (up from 17% circa 1970), and cyclical crisis / bubbles.
1 [deleted] 2012-10-04
You have been downvoted for justice!
Reason: I think part of the point is that we don't need junk in our lives, meaning there is no need to create it. Some things, for sure, are important. Certain medicines need to be constructed in a laboratory setting, and can't be done by know-how alone. One could argue that those who need such care are destined to die, and truly, we are attempting to play god by defying mortality. I'm not here to speculate on that point, but I will acknowledge that it is there.
We do not, however, need television. Computers. DVD players. Certainly, these things are great in and of themselves, and provide us with art end entertainment but they comprise part of a much larger problem; rampant consumerism. Technological advances are fantastic. No one is arguing that architectural and electronic technology isn't a beautiful and wondrous thing, but the extent to which these technologies are used and abused far outweigh the amount to which they are actually needed in most cases.
1 yahoo_bot 2012-10-04
Hmm... Need, want... We may not need TV or computer per say, we are not going to die if we don't have it, but we want one, its not like we are being forced to buy a TV or computer, we want one and in this day and age I'd say we also need them.
How else are you going to write on reddit in the conspiracy subreddit if not for a computer, how else are you going to find out about stuff if not for the computer.
You seem to think that things get produced and then consumed, but you need to understand that things are first wanted and consumed then produced, I mean I can list you thousands of things from gadgets to furniture that has failed and hasn't been consumed.
2 chri_stopher 2012-10-04
im not sure if i entirely agree with you, you kind of lost me when you mentioned that this was all the reason hemp is illegal (this is coming from a huge story). your idea of it all seems too simplified to explain the workings of our world
2 eldorann 2012-10-04
This is most true. It's also one of the reasons I want to leave America. I hope I can expatriate before they seal the borders.
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3 eldorann 2012-10-04
Perhaps. I will, though, be speaking another language and enjoying foreign food and women. Well, at least the food. My wife would have to decide on the latter.
1 junkmale 2012-10-04
Where are you thinking of going? Just curious...
1 eldorann 2012-10-04
Everything I've read comes down on the side of Northern Europe being the most mature and stable countries, both in societal and economic terms. The last list I read ranked the Netherlands as being the #1 country in the world. Socially stable, economically stable, and culturally stable.
Remember that we are a young country with less than two hundred fifty candles on our birthday cake. Europe, northern especially, has had thousands of years of existence. Granted, an early existence of warlike vikings for several centuries, if all early history is to be believed. America is barely a teenager growing pubic hair against the completely shaven majesty of a mature Tantric Goddess.
I'm sure that most of the world looks on the US with quiet amusement as America disregards the events of the planet to focus on only the Owner-created rat race here that distracts the peons. Witness the current political theatre. The only difference between Obama / Romney presidencies would be who has a majority in the Supreme Court. Democrat vs. Republican. Rationality vs Insanity.
2 cheesefrykid 2012-10-04
Totally agree man, reminds of rule number one of the rules of bureaucracy: https://mises.org/daily/5955/The-Seven-Rules-of-Bureaucracy
2 the_grayfox 2012-10-04
I'm pretty sure I read this exact same thing on ATS about 6 months ago.
2 ToddAC 2012-10-04
Started on a global scale with the formation of the Bank of England. America broke free for a time, but fell back into the fold completely after the Military Industrial Complex was born during the Civil War.
2 maxp0wah 2012-10-04
Well said and well written.
2 PauliEffect 2012-10-04
I think it's worth pointing out that mandatory healthcare effectively makes it illegal to be off the grid. Final nail pounded.
2 MikeWulf 2012-10-04
I think the whole deal is a bit more organic than you make it out to be. There are lots of levels of control in society, but this is just the natural way of humans. Life for people was short and horrible until this 'big conspiracy' took place. Quality of life IS worth the price of giving up some freedoms.
1 Sarah_Connor 2012-10-04
This post starts out wrong and ends slightly correct...
This current incarnation is NOT the natural state of a healthy civilization. It is true that quality of life COULD justify giving up of SOME freedoms; though the freedoms we give up are NOT the ones we should be giving up for this level of quality of life.
Look arounf the globe - quality of life vs reduced freedoms has not been evenly/equally distributed.
There are countries that are so much more "free" than the US, have a fantastic quality of life - but "suffer" from far greater government involvement in their lives in the form of taxes.
2 Nerd_Destroyer 2012-10-04
The way I see it, reality is the average of everyone's belief, including mine.
2 Keegsy 2012-10-04
I agree, I think the problem with your theory is economics though. OP's post argues that well working economy's give higher profits to those in control. Yet he's forgetting that working (as well as commute) hours have decreased while leisure times have increased steadily over time. OP, you need to read into economics a little more because, even though I agree with you, your argument sounds slightly naive. Once you get an understanding of free-market economics, figure out how large banks and corporations can influence what people think (through mass media), and how they can use government policy to gain more for themselves. THIS is the oppression you're speaking of, not 40 hour weeks.
You're on the right track, but keep going to build a better argument!
Also, love your idea on the school system! Perhaps schools ran by the state and not federal government would be a start... 50+ people in control instead of 1 small group with clearly an agenda.
2 beefcake87 2012-10-04
It goes even deeper down the rabbit hole than that. Keep up the good work, and getting the word out. That's all we can do right now.
2 Drakkar_ 2012-10-04
Read up on Bernay's book called Propaganda
Watch this Aldous Huxley Interview
Read The Scientific Outlook by Bertrand Russell
2 godiebiel 2012-10-04
Very good analysis, I couldn't join all my thoughts into something so coherent as you did, congrats.
Besides Edison, we might include the Wright brothers, US's WWII victory (how can you call Hiroshima and Nagasaki victory ?!), they're merely symbols of American "ingenuity" and "greatness", historical frauds yes, but history is always written by the winners ("The Man in the High Castle").
But I do disagree on the "working hours". We are, thanks to technology, working less than ever before, and even during our "working hours" 15% of it is non productive (e.g. reddit, solitaire, facebook).
And that's where Entertainment comes in, this is how society is maintained satisfied and under control (panem et circum), no wonder it's such a profitable industry.
As for the "non-conformists" who won't subdue themselves to mass entertainment, the Diagnosis and Syndrome Manual (DSM) offers prompt help, either through mood suppressors or the psychiatric wards.
History and Math are fundamental but most important should be critical thinking (i.e. philosophy), something not emphasized in American public schooling, but very high in regard in private schools. The ability and right to question, and not simply accept the facts as they're given. Many great thinkers were silenced for this simple yet feared right.
One of the main criticisms of capitalism is its unsustainability (contradiction between never ending surplus in limited resourced world; read Henryk Grossman) and what we're seeing today is the result: unproductive speculation, wars, unemployment, devaluation...
As for the individual living a self-sustainable life, this also not an option for the whole humanity, first, there simply isn't enough terrain in the planet to hold 6 trillion self subsistence farmers. Urban society has its many advantages over agricultural, unfortunately today's western stratified consumption led capitalist society is not beneficial to mankind nor the planet.
We urgently need a new, more responsible, and egalitarian society, that doesn't revolve around consumption and exploitation. A balanced society, based on ethics, reason, and knowledge, where both science and religion can flourish, both in their own ways without interfering with one another.... sigh
2 Soylent_Gringo 2012-10-04
This isn't a conspiracy, it's a manifesto.
Nail.
Right on the fucking head.
2 board4life 2012-10-04
check out Polanyi's paradox.
http://faculty.plattsburgh.edu/richard.robbins/stuff/polanyi.htm
It gets into the capitalism side, and how there is a scheme by those in power to make sure they have ample resources to survive and profit from before they are gone. In capitalism, everything must be commodified. Look at water- in 1950 it was free, now it costs money. Information- you pay to learn. How does learning and gaining knowledge harm anything? It doesn't. It actually improves the world. But the powers that be must continually find things to profit from because the world economy must perpetually grow to maintain the system. But as they have said, the world economy is a living thing, and as proven by observation, no living thing lives forever.
What a day it will be when perpetual growth collides with finite energy and resources, and it all falls down.
2 chess_addict 2012-10-04
Now we have wikipedia. Learning without paying, like never before. So it's not all like that.
1 board4life 2012-10-04
touche. I was talking more about the need to go to college if you want to be "somebody," aka make money and buy shit you dont need. Information being commodified is awful. But I do agree the internet (and sites like wikipedia) are helping transition away from that. But wikipedia doesn't give out degrees that employers look at like a college does.
2 [deleted] 2012-10-04
I'm glad that /r/conspiracy is here so that I can find folks that I can agree with.
2 CapnScumbone 2012-10-04
Brilliant. I'd add one consideration....the fact that the ruling elite are planning to dispose of a vast portion of the population very soon.
2 [deleted] 2012-10-04
I read everything you wrote. I hear you 100% but I also see you are missing on some underlying topics that reach much deeper than the surface you've scratched. I offer you to watch this video and see what I mean. Thrive: What On Earth Will It Take
1 EastsideEd 2012-10-04
Thanks for posting that link, it got my gears grinding.
2 extrasauceplz 2012-10-04
yea that's half of it.
2 [deleted] 2012-10-04
I agree
1 nwapartment 2012-10-04
Thank you so much for posting this here.
1 WhiteCrake 2012-10-04
My contribution (and it fits within your hypothesis) is that children are voluntarily signed up for the income tax. Because the parent pays income tax they want to get every deduction they can. One of the biggest deduction is for dependents. In order to claim a dependent you need proof they exist hence your child's social security number.
Along the same lines corporate tax incentives and deductions for employees. In order to prove the employee exists they need the employee's social security number. A corporation (if they have a choice) between an employee with a SSN and without one will go with the one that has one.
1 doc58 2012-10-04
Sounds like you read None Dare Call it Conspiracy by Gary Allen.
1 uraffuroos 2012-10-04
Most of this resonates with me. One thing I should definatly be learning is how to be more resourcefully independent: Crop Growing Clothes manufacturing Natural Medicine ... ect. I think it would be very interesting to live in more of a agrarian type society where people at least have a small patch of their yard growing some kind of vegetable or fruit.
Also, the underlying nature of our education system is defiantly to weed out the few who need to do more important work than turning knobs and levers, and they skew the concepts just enough to be slightly confusing but for others to understand it as having an intention to benefit us.
1 [deleted] 2012-10-04
Everything about your conspiracy is spot on, however, the amusing thing is, we have always been slaves, even before governments, even before kings, we're always a slave to time... always. Do you think items can craft themselves? Growing food, making items, traveling, etc, all takes a LOT of time... it's wonderful and all that we're so free these days actually.. I can go give someone else a few bucks and bam, new t-shirt, or I can spend the next few weeks harvesting the materials, preparing them, and then crafting a new shirt... which will be hideous of course... so yes, you're right.. and I'm glad for you realizing all this but the fact is, we're no more a slave now than man has ever been.
It's called life.
2 Opsys 2012-10-04
So are you implying that by growing his own food and crafting his own items, men becomes a slave?
1 [deleted] 2012-10-04
Meh, we brought this upon ourselves. Polarized masses bring destruction from within.
1 eutf8 2012-10-04
i thought everyone in this subreddit knew this
0 Sarah_Connor 2012-10-04
This subreddit explicitly exists to attempt to teach people this!
I still upvoted you though...
1 gustoreddit51 2012-10-04
Yeah, burn the sheeple suit. I doesn't fit you anymore.
1 beatvox 2012-10-04
this should have been a speech in the woods...not online, on reddit...supporting the system that is supposed to thwart u...just saying :)
2 AliceHouse 2012-10-04
jesus did that.
1 beatvox 2012-10-04
and he paid for it...and religion was used as a tool for the weak minded
1 Simplename11 2012-10-04
power
1 lachiekMUFC 2012-10-04
congrats mate, very very well put .
1 MCEnergy 2012-10-04
I think that if you really wanted to look into so-called "conspiracies", then you would need to first do your history.
By simplifying hundreds of years of individuals' actions, desires, failures, and beliefs into a single narrative with a specific purpose, you ignore all of the very real data and evidence that corroborates people's firsthand accounts that describe the development of society, politics, law, and social contracts, in general. I recommend the greats in political theory: Smith, Adams, etc. They explain how societies necessarily operate through and because of the combined force of the people that make up its governance and who are also governed.
Otherwise, you will never, ever, ever identify "them". If you want to demonize a particular individual, then it would be far more constructive to understand what exactly is oppressing people. Is it the NDAA? The Patriot Act? Now, who instituted those? Who were the stakeholders? Who operates the military-industrial complex or who is behind the media oligarchy? Now, those are serious questions that have specific answers. Look into that, rather than hypothesizing on your own. It's good that you experiment with thought, but without FACTS, it's all conjecture ie bullshit.
1 quantifiably_godlike 2012-10-04
I've heard this term from somewhere else here, but I think it's a good description: Involuntary Civilization. We are a part of an involuntary, highly artificial society. All of this truly is a contrivance. Along with that, human beings are far more than we have been allowed to be. We have been stunted, crippled & have endured a forced retardation of our true nature & abilities for a very long time. I believe there is an entire branch of our true (read: forbidden) history that we have NO CLUE of. Actually, it's more like WE are the branch. We have been taken off our natural path by those who truly know what they are doing & I think the top of the pyramid goes faar higher than a bunch of braniac banking dynasties. This was done with such deftness, with such an eye towards long swaths of time, that it seems like the doings of evil time-travelers from the future.. whatever the truth of their identity is, it's more than just mortal men.
I should say, it took me a long time to come to that, because I'm a lot more skeptical than my opinion here may make me appear.
1 [deleted] 2012-10-04
To call it the "The Mother of All Conspiracies" you need to take it one step further. You need to ask why it is like this.
From what I've gathered - we may not be at the top of the food chain, we may be food. We are locked in a prison of the mind, because we have been given their mind. Just as psychopaths feed on fear and chaos, they may feed from what happens here.
Don Juan: (Carlos Castaneda, The Active Side of Infinity)
(The Cassiopaean Sessions - The Wave Chapter 12: All There Is Is Lessons)
Gurdjieff:
Ouspensky (Ouspensky’s The Fourth Way):
Laura Knight-Jadczyk, The Cassiopean Sessions:
This gives a new meaning for "If you want to change the world, start with yourself". Focus on changing the inside, and the "outside" will follow, because when you change your mind, you will perceive your world differently.
Ask questions and information will be presented to you at the right times. The more you know, the more free you become.
1 [deleted] 2012-10-04
Cheers! You took the red pill. ;)
1 loki1887 2012-10-04
I'm not saying you don't have valid points, but just because you sucked at history and math does not mean there is a government conspiracy against people learning. There are millions of people who spend there lives and careers studying history and the fastest growing jobs in the world are tech jobs, which require solid math skills. Again you have valid points, but that part was ill thought out.
1 anticapitalist 2012-10-04
Just FYI: Tesla was a so-called "drop out" too. (Note: a "drop out" is often an attempted insult at those who turn to self-education.)
You might've heard rumors that he had various degrees, but the actual college he attended said he dropped out after the 2nd year. (Some claim he lost his scholarship. . . There are many versions of the story, including how he had a feud with one of his teachers, & how he lost a bunch of money gambling. . . Won it back. . . Etc etc.) Then. . . After all that he went for a few weeks/months, as an unregistered student, & studied at another college before vanishing for a while (according to the most common tale. . .) & eventually ending up in America as a so-called "drop out."
You can read one version of the story at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nikola_Tesla#Early_years
1 [deleted] 2012-10-04
Here's another peice..
Imagine all humans in a vacuum (separated from our cultural evolutions). We're all the same, with a few tiny differences..
One of those differences involves the degree to which we are either capable or feeling it necessary (mostly, IMnsHO, due to (lack of) nurture)) to gain and retain power over the lives of others.
Power like that is mostly granted in human cultures to those who want it the most because they work hardest to get it and keep it. These people are mostly hungry for certain kinds of attention the didn't receive as infants or children, but I digress..
So the decisions which most greatly affect the most number of humans in the species are all delegated to one subgroup, those who are (emotionally) hungry.
That is the systemic cause of this problem.
1 xoday 2012-10-04
Debt (wages of Sin) by contract with a higher authority (aka banking/servitude) is the template of nearly all major religions mythos ... Welcome my son, welcome to the dream machine
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1 ImASharkImAShark 2012-10-04
Pressure from above and from below; entities creating their own problems and own solutions.
1 [deleted] 2012-10-04
take the word clandestine. it means done secretly, unidentifiable, nebulous. split the word. clan. destiny. is it strange that this word is literally clan destiny? No, that's because a nebulous, unidentifiable group of beings has been shaping human culture globally for some time now. this is why history is erased and re-written everywhere they go.
1 prolix 2012-10-04
Before I offer you this shit storm of a rebuttal.. just know that I am happy that you are opening your eyes and learning how to think critically. Everything I say is meant to help you on your journey, no matter how crude and straight forward I may put it.
I wouldn't say the system is rigged, I would say it was conquered.. When the 40 hour work week came about, it was actually a good thing compared to what we were used to and not some sinister plot to keep people busy. History really is just a bunch of names and dates with context. And not everyone finds it boring =). Your arguments about mathematics don't even make any sense. You are trying to force correlations together to support your argument.. "To those students who got math, maybe the 40 hour work week, families and mortgages would keep them too busy to ask questions." Most people take the majority of their math classes before they have to worry about a 40 hour work week or families/mortgages. Speaking of mathematics.. how does it help us spot when we are being lied to liked you say? BTW, Tesla lost his place in history (in the short term of history that is) because he wasn't as greedy as Edison. Racial tension wasn't engineered, its been in existence for as long as history dates back. Here in the United States, racial tension from Slavery still has deep roots. The racial tension between the different Asian ethnicity's is astounding and came about from the very eventful history of their culture as well. Let me see you craft your computer.. but wait.. you also have to craft your own computer language too because you want to be self reliant right? Are you a farmer? Growing your own food is damn hard work. You talk about people being trapped in a 40 hour work week and then you say people should be more self reliant where they grow their own food and craft everything they need. This is called delusion. How would there be no need for Government if the Government solved our problems? Is the Governments purpose to solve our problems? You are constantly begging the question.
1 SeriouslyMental 2012-10-04
Can I copy this into a facebook note? I will credit r/conspiracy, or even you if you want... Some genuinely good perspectives here that I think a lot of people will be able to swallow.
1 YouthInRevolt 2012-10-04
I was pretty much entirely with you until this:
When you say government, are you referring to the idea of government in general, or the reality of the U.S. government today (corporately-owned politicians that are forced to rely on campaign financing & corporate media exposure in order to maintain their positions of power).
In my view, just because our corrupted system of governance has created massive problems for our country/the world doesn't mean that the concept of government itself is inherently evil.
All of the problems that you described above can be traced back to money in politics. What we have is a system of "democracy to the highest bidder", and right now, the industrial class is the highest bidder, and their using their financial (and thus political) clout to maintain this society that they've helped create.
The way to take back power from the financial/industrial class is to demand publicly-financed elections (where small dollar contributions by citizens are then matched by public funds with a multiplier). Candidates who refuse to run these publicly financed campaigns should be shamed by poor and middle class voters from both sides of the aisle. It's as bipartisan an issue that there ever will be, and I'm starting to think that it's really the only way to fix the multitude of problems that face our country, many of which you've described above.
1 spawnmower 2012-10-04
TLDR?
1 levilarrington 2012-10-04
Wouldn't the veil rise?
1 loyalone 2012-10-04
Right on all points. I can see why the concept of the movie The Matrix went over so well. Anyone still locked in the system was a part of that system and, for the vast majority, willfully blind to reality.
1 brettievedder 2012-10-04
i couldn't agree more. life is nothing but a big game. i really need to suck it up and take survival classes just in case the shit hits the fan
1 brettievedder 2012-10-04
or should i say "when" the shit hits the fan. but i think it hit the fan a long time ago
1 Le_Knapp 2012-10-04
I'll just leave this here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simulacra_and_Simulation
0 TheSelfGoverned 2012-10-04
Now for the real important question:
Who are you voting for in November!?
Kidding.
I think it is time for the people to stand up and solve their own problems, via syndicalism(large scale inclusionary business activity), science, and Austrian economics.
0 [deleted] 2012-10-04
Welcome to the fold! I found this (very long) playlist by "TruthNeverTold" on youtube to be a great eye opener. You are almost repeating some of it verbatim...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1x_qPPTRR80&feature=mr_meh&list=PLD31E34390C5017E8&playnext=0
Full disclosure: The guy is selling silver coins or something, but this particular playlist is chock full of good ideas and eye openers and is commercial free. His other playlists focus more on precious metals and coins etc whatever skip'em.
0 MrNibbles1 2012-10-04
This was awesome. This is what r/conspiracy needs. Well done.
0 brianed 2012-10-04
Who the fuck downvoted this ??
0 Insaneshaney 2012-10-04
great job buddy!!!
0 AliceHouse 2012-10-04
you're not far from the mark, but you have some flaws.
they don't deliberately make history and math boring. it's just the ways to effectively teach children weren't learned yet. (Positive re-enforcement.)
but yes, they do control the narrative.
however, it's never before been in the best interest of a government to keep the population ignorant.
the sad mother of all conspiracies, is that on the individual level, WE are to blame for our poor schools, WE are to blame for the prison system, WE are to blame for the draconian drug laws.
we have no one else to blame but ourselves.
1 Opsys 2012-10-04
That's the purpose of our so called democracies. To make the common citizen think they are to blame for the idiot they put to run the country.
There are certainly things that we should blame ourselves for, but don't be too hard on yourself, we really have no real option in this political paradigm.
1 AliceHouse 2012-10-04
every individual is responsible for themselves. who are we to blame that a select few decided to get educated a long time ago and create the various industrial complexes above us? the powers that be, scary as they seem, are still humans just like us.
0 gravion17 2012-10-04
Nicely done...you are now KNOWN to the Machine...Do.Not.Feed.The.Machine.
-1 danxmason 2012-10-04
Its bigger than that. Read the hidden hand interview.
-1 jakenichols 2012-10-04
You should also look into the UN Agenda 21 for what is to come now that they have us all enslaved. come on over to /r/agenda21
-1 Qbdory 2012-10-04
Here is a video/audio link expanding upon what you said quite nicely. http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=k67_imEHTPE
-3 [deleted] 2012-10-04
Pretty sure my 14 year old brother could write this... how was this '' the mother of all conspiracies '' by the way?
2 pursurveer 2012-10-04
TV is filled with nonsense/bullshit and i'm pretty damn sure that we would be healthier and smarter living out on our own.
1 Psycon 2012-10-04
Living alone would not be the way to do it. If you had a decent sized group of like-minded people, and you had access to necessary resources, after establishing a settlement, life would be pretty easy. You would need to work around four hours a day to maintain a colonial standard of living. At which point you could sell goods like the Amish do to cover expenses.
5 Surferly91 2012-10-04
We should create an experiment, and pitch as if it's "for science!!!" but in reality, it's a place where we can live as truly free humans.
So we find a nice plot of land and gather say 1-3 thousand? This plot of land should be undeveloped. We all set a date, and we move there. Then our scientific experiment begins. We build our own world. No power over others, just collective communication for te advancement of our society.
Haha would be cool. Hopefully it would work and show the rest of the world what bs they live in.
7 Sarah_Connor 2012-10-04
(A little random - had great wine this night..)
I'm a mod on /r/conspiracy. I was raised on a commune. I am a techie in silicon valley. I am apolitical. I am an objectivist and humanist. I am a member of the Mayan Order. I am a seeker of understanding and through my understanding a seeker of wisdom. All of these are traits, not labels.
I was lucky - the commune was corrupted after we left and was consumed by drugs and other things. It lost its meaning and its center.
Why?
Uneducated humans encroached.
The MOST important thing in this life is education. Information is a component of education - education is a process by which a human digests information and builds an emotional/intellectual/spiritual body.
Food feeds your physical body, and the ingredients in that food are crucial to your physical health. Information feeds your intellectual body. Poor ingredients fail to nourish your spiritual body. Introspection feeds your spiritual body. Poor thinking ability fail to nourish your spiritual body.
(Do not mistake spiritual with 'religious' - spiritual is the understanding of your relationship to all that is, in every facet and dimension. The following may help you understand what spiritual represents: "Everything you are is made from this universe, but the universe is not made from everything you are - know your relationship to this universe as it is the sum of your parts. The beauty of existence is discovering more and more about the sum of its parts!" - this is the basis of all science.)
The OP has awakened.
6 WashingtonParadise 2012-10-04
How is that fucking constructive?
2 eggrole 2012-10-04
http://www.ic.org/
0 junkmale 2012-10-04
The difference is that you are serving only yourself/family vs. a boss, board, stockholders, etc... But I agree with your overall point. At least as a slave we have Reddit. And Reddit is all we really need :p
1 shummire 2012-10-04
Well, the shahada is the most important thing imo. I was eating pork and drinking too when I said the shahada but then I eventually stopped after I started salaat. Join us in /r/islam if you have any questions.
2 MyIQis2 2012-10-04
Yeah, I agree. When you get high it pulls you away from a comfort zone. I have this "theory" you can say about smoking weed and how certain people are effected by it. 15 years old, smoked weed, tripped out; had existential crisis, insomnia, severe headaches, and severe constantly rushing thoughts. All of this sent me to the my Dr's frequently and I was considered for psychiatric evaluation, most likely schizophrenia. I'm 20 years old now, have slowly gotten over my problem through self guided metitation, reading, studying philosophy, and deep introspective self reflection spiritually. This helped the panic attacks cease. I noticed that certain people do have an anxietal response to marijuana, but I was wondering what it was that actually triggered it. I don't think it's the marijuana itself, a drug's effect is never soley responsible on the drug, it takes a reaction; several variables. I was wondering if smoking weed broke through several spiritual boundaries, ans caused sever anxiety in those who weren't able to cope with the reality yet, because they've ignored it. I'm not saying those who can comfortably smoke weed are "awake," but maybe it's that these people are better at safeguarding the fagility of the humam mind by retaining the illusion of safety.