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Why is it so hard to believe that there are forces in the world who dream for a disarmed America.

Yeah. Don't disarm America. Disarm THE WORLD. Anything less than disarming EVERYONE is extremely dangerous for those who have relinquished their weapons on this sorry, backward, hazardous planet.

Why is it so hard to believe that this would be a good thing?

Because the Supreme Court has said that government has no duty to protect the citizens. Now, if we are citizens who owe a duty of allegiance to the state for a duty of protection and the state says it has no duty to protect where does that leave us? Also if you consider that the company known as The United States went bankrupt the last time in 1933 and Roosevelt pledged the labor of the citizenry to International bankers. Do you consider the possibility that the creditors of the US may not want an armed population?

Do you consider the possibility that the creditors of the US may not want an armed population?

No, I don't, mostly because I don't really believe in that conspiracy- or pretty much anything in that post- at all. Kinda sounds like something out of infowars.com :)

Well you should read The Creature from Jekyll Island. An interesting read about the starting of The Federal Reserve. A private central bank that has no reserves and prints money out of thin air. If you want to keep your head in the sand that's up to you. It's good you don't follow infowars. Nothing but fear mongering.

Edit: "Give me control of a nation's money and I care not who makes the laws." - Mayer Amschel Rothschild

Count on it.

Problem. Reaction. Solution.

My first thought also.

My first thoughts also.

yes. what if...

All I say is this, it's extremely fishy that a similar incident would take place in China at the same time as this latest shooting, only with knives and (as far as I've heard so far) no deaths.

To me, this is obviously a twisted rebuttal to all those who espouse the "guns don't kill people, people do" argument. After all, with this, who in their right mind could possibly support it? Fiendishly clever move by whoever's behind all this.

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That was every Tryrannical Goverment did in History start killing its own people.

"The most foolish mistake we could possibly make would be to permit the conquered Eastern peoples to have arms. History teaches that all conquerors who have allowed their subject races to carry arms have prepared their own downfall by doing so. Indeed I would go so far as to say that the underdog is a sine qua non for the overthrow of any sovereignty. So let's not have any native militia or police. German troops alone will bear the sole responsibility for the maintenance of law and order." - Adolf Hitler, April 11, 1942, quoted in Hitlers Tischegesprache Im Fuhrerhauptquartier 1941-1942. [Translation: Hitler's Table-Talk at the Fuhrer's Headquarters 1941-1942], Dr. Henry Picker, ed. (Athenaum-Verlag, Bonn, 1951)

Hitler isn't after our guns.

http://iamthewitness.com/doc/The.Jewish.Gun.Grabbers.htm

http://townhall.com/tipsheet/kevinglass/2012/12/02/michael_bloomberg_puts_antigun_plans_into_action

http://www.opposingviews.com/i/society/guns/illinois-mayor-rahm-emanuel-turning-heat-anti-gun-crusade-springfield

http://www.disclose.tv/action/viewvideo/52139/Gun_Grabbers___101__/

The day they take my guns is the day I lose all hope for this country...

and the poor bastard that tries to take them.

They can try but it will not work. The only way would be to institute some type of insurance requirement that would be so expensive only a few could have it. They will never buy force or law take our guns.

Ammo.

That is another they are already trying. The puppet is already saying we need an affidavid to buy more then 100 rounds. Not implemented yet but are trying very hard.

Reminds me of Saint Mary's (V_ For vendetta)

my first thought was a marijuana user and it was a gateway drug to this person. Get the public to condemn CO and WA and keep any others from questioning the continuing of prohibition.

How about the government not needing to do anything, because horrible gun laws and a really weird american obsession with gun ownership does all the work for them?

It's not like you'd need a false flag when the infrastructure is perfectly set up to allow tragedies like this to occur- and maybe the public opinion swaying away from favoring guns is a GOOD thing. Doesn't mean that the gubment will knock down your door to steal your gun tomorrow, next year, or in a decade, but maybe it's a start for future generations not being so fucking obsessed with weapons as a large part of Americans are today.

A different gun culture naturally wouldn't completely stop things like this from occuring , but maybe there could be a few less massacres per year- which shouldn't be a tall order.

What if the best part of you spilled out and down your mothers leg.

That's the stupidest goddamn thing I've ever heard.

it's also why our concept of revolution involves pitchforks.

this is why i never come to this thread anymore.

How often were you coming to this thread? ಠ_ಠ

That was every Tryrannical Goverment did in History start killing its own people.

"The most foolish mistake we could possibly make would be to permit the conquered Eastern peoples to have arms. History teaches that all conquerors who have allowed their subject races to carry arms have prepared their own downfall by doing so. Indeed I would go so far as to say that the underdog is a sine qua non for the overthrow of any sovereignty. So let's not have any native militia or police. German troops alone will bear the sole responsibility for the maintenance of law and order." - Adolf Hitler, April 11, 1942, quoted in Hitlers Tischegesprache Im Fuhrerhauptquartier 1941-1942. [Translation: Hitler's Table-Talk at the Fuhrer's Headquarters 1941-1942], Dr. Henry Picker, ed. (Athenaum-Verlag, Bonn, 1951)

Hitler isn't after our guns.

http://iamthewitness.com/doc/The.Jewish.Gun.Grabbers.htm

http://townhall.com/tipsheet/kevinglass/2012/12/02/michael_bloomberg_puts_antigun_plans_into_action

http://www.opposingviews.com/i/society/guns/illinois-mayor-rahm-emanuel-turning-heat-anti-gun-crusade-springfield

http://www.disclose.tv/action/viewvideo/52139/Gun_Grabbers___101__/