The eyes have it?
6 2012-12-16 by Kuldebar
Recently the photos or mugshots of mass killers have caught my eye, so to speak. I first noticed it with the Batman Theater killer, and then more recently with the Newtown shooter.
I have no "theory", this is just an observational point, but don't these people looked drugged?
34 comments
4 Weedtastic 2012-12-16
They are not on drugs (at the time the picture was taken) you would see there pupils being bigger or smaller.
I think this "crazy look" comes from Mind Control Techniques.
If look at different Pictures from James Holmes you can see clearly that this Guy has NO FUCKING IDEA what happend.
The Aurora Shooting has evidence for a False Flag Operation what i think is what happend.
Some People saw multiple shooters in the cinema.
Most likely he was under mind control forced to kill these people and got all the blame for it.
You could easly set his trigger to a specific Movie Scene/Soundtrack.
James Holmes Family connection to DARPA and other Goverment Institutes
James Holmes himself making a presentation about "Programming"
Eyewitness: Second Shooter In ‘Batman’ Massacre
James Holmes Is Behaving Like Sirhan Sirhan
Inmate: James Holmes Told Me He Was ‘Programmed’ To Kill by “Evil” Therapist
2 ronintetsuro 2012-12-16
Another interesting trend that was observed in another CT shooting thread: these recent shooters, who off themselves or seemingly just give up and turn themselves in... why are they wearing body armor and masks? Most shooters that are intending to make a statement don't care about their own safety or WANT to be known and immediately recognizable.
Take the guy that went to a town hall meeting and spraypainted a V on the wall before brandishing a gun. This man wanted to get his point across, and he wanted people to know it was him doing it.
You DON'T want a shooter immediately identifiable when you have multiple people involved and you have to set up a patsy later. Consider this seriously WHEN the next shooting happens.
2 beavis420 2012-12-16
Victims of some kind of psy ops experiment? MK Ultra gone awry? I think the LIBOR connection is more significant though.
1 Kuldebar 2012-12-16
I tend to believe:
Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity.
I think we are seeing the results of quackery caused by the currently accepted practices of the psychiatric and pharmaceutical industry in our society.
This is not to say that there are never truly conspiracies, of course. But, sometimes you don't have to jump sharks to explain things if another, simpler explanation or rationale is available.
"You have attributed conditions to villainy that simply result from stupidity" But, I say this more for the LIBOR connection.
MK Ultra seems to be another matter that plays into this in a broader way: social engineering, psychological operations angle.
1 ronintetsuro 2012-12-16
Sorchal Faal is the only one making any LIBOR connections.
Were the LIBOR connections for Robert Holmes ever actually made concrete?
1 Olipyr 2012-12-16
It's called being mentally ill.
1 Kuldebar 2012-12-16
Well, it still correlates and has been noted long before:
Mass Murderers and Psychiatry
MANIA - The shocking link between psychiatric drugs, suicide, violence and mass murder
Gun control? We need medication control! Newton elementary school shooter Adam Lanza likely on meds; labeled as having 'personality disorder'
In mass shootings involving guns and mind-altering medications, politicians immediately seek to blame guns but never the medication. Nearly every mass shooting that has taken place in America over the last two decades has a link to psychiatric medication, and it appears today's tragic event is headed in the same direction.
According to ABC News, Adam Lanza, the alleged shooter, has been labeled as having "mental illness" and a "personality disorder." These are precisely the words typically heard in a person who is being "treated" with mind-altering psychiatric drugs.
One of the most common side effects of psychiatric drugs is violent outbursts and thoughts of suicide.
Colorado Mass-Murder Linked to Prescription Drug Use
School Shooters Under the Influence of Psychiatric Drugs
At least fourteen recent school shootings were committed by those taking or withdrawing from psychiatric drugs. There have been 109 wounded and 58 killed.
Of these 14, seven were seeing either a psychiatrist (5 of them) or psychologist (2 of them). It is not known whether or not the other half were seeing a psychiatrist, as it has not been published.
1 Olipyr 2012-12-16
So mental illness.
Please note, I said NOTHING about them being on any drugs. I simply pointed out mental illness, which is exactly what it is.
1 Kuldebar 2012-12-16
So, nothing to see here, move along?
I don't have that much faith in the practice of psychiatry and its disturbing reliance on psychostimulant drugs. I think it most likely an example of how the "cure" may be worse than the disease.
This will be one of those currently acceptable things that 50 years from now will have people shaking their heads and wondering, "WTF were they thinkin?"
1 ronintetsuro 2012-12-16
No. Very definitely NOT mental illness. How did you get that from the read above?
PSYCHOTROPIC DRUGS. Largely untested, handed out like candy to an uneducated populace. "Mental illness" is the excuse given to do this.
3 Olipyr 2012-12-16
And people like you who brush off the mental illness aspect of these people are the very reason this country's mental healthcare is absolute shit.
People do NOT shoot up a mall or a school because they are sane. Perhaps the drugs made them snap, we don't know that as 100% fact. We do know they have a mental illness, a chemical imbalance in their brain, that causes them to be off. Perhaps the medications caused an adverse reaction but to say they were sane is asinine and just plain idiotic.
If you've never been around someone whose been off their meds who is legitimately ill, you'll understand it's a very REAL thing.
1 ronintetsuro 2012-12-16
People like me? People that advocate a single pay healthcare system that allows people like the ones you mentioned to get the healthcare they need instead of depending on the quackery of the pharmaceutical industrial complex?
You've got your parties mixed up, mate. I'm not your enemy.
1 Olipyr 2012-12-16
Your quotes, "No. Very definitely NOT mental illness. How did you get that from the read above?" and "'Mental illness' is the excuse given to do this."
I don't know your post history and I can only go on what you've just said.
0 ronintetsuro 2012-12-16
There are plenty of mentally ill people that will never snap and shoot up a school.
Mental illness IS the excuse the DSM uses to dose the general public unconditionally. If you ever bother to pick one up, I think you'll be shocked to find how many 'mental illnesses' you and everyone you know can be dosed with.
And that's the entire point of the DSM. To make the pharmaceutical industry profitable.
1 Olipyr 2012-12-16
Only thing I have is slight ADD. Adderall the one time I've taken it did help me focus. Then again, caffeine and ephedrine do the same thing.
I work and volunteer in the medical field, I've seen mentally ill patients who absolutely need the medications. I've seen the effects of them being on the medication versus them being on it. Is it perfect? Far from it but it's a helluva lot better than just locking them up in a padded room.
Every single industry is going to be a profit hog. You really believe that if/when the government takes over it won't be just as much, if not more so, about profits? That's just delusional to think otherwise.
0 ronintetsuro 2012-12-16
No, I don't believe that. You're putting words in my mouth.
0 ReptilianHybrid 2012-12-16
Yeah, but you are missing the point completely. You are accepting that answer when there is more to it. It is like saying 9/11 is caused by violence.
1 Olipyr 2012-12-16
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1 Kuldebar 2012-12-16
Putting a conspiracy hat on, I couldn't come up with a better way to agitate a population then by subjecting it to a series of seemingly random violence acts. It would serve as a means of control, a method of coaxing people along to a place where they'd be far more likely to submit to further controls and "security" oversight.
If drugs are used to do this, it is very likely a matter of those drugs simply lifting the already shaky restraints that susceptible individuals may have.
1 beavis420 2012-12-16
I was wondering what's your take on the LIBOR scandal and the fact the batman shooter and this most recent one in CT are all sons of high level executives who were supposed to testify in regards to the scandal.
1 Kuldebar 2012-12-16
I think it's not overly surprising that children of affluent parents will be more likely to receive the psychiatric "care" that appears to be correlated to the killings.
And how something like that could be folded into the background of these situations is unclear.
If the goal is to leverage someone to do something to which they are resistant; following through with a threat and playing your hand would seemingly remove the weight of your threat.
Once you take away something a person cherishes, they have nothing left to lose.
What would keep them remaining silent?
At what point can you no longer hold someone via such coercion?
1 haveyouconsideredthe 2012-12-16
Don't be silly. There is no indication Adam Lanza or James Holmes' dads were suppose to testify and even if they were all that was over a while ago.
1 beavis420 2012-12-16
Http://newsworldwide.wordpress.com/2012/12/16/breaking-news-ct-school-shooter-killer-link-to-libor-scandal/
1 haveyouconsideredthe 2012-12-16
I'm sorry did you just post me a link to a site with no sources saying the exact same thing as if it were proof or something? There is nothing there resembling proof just a bunch of claims of someone.
1 Kuldebar 2012-12-16
"Hostage taking" only grants power while the hostages live; I just can't see the LIBOR thing as being valid, more like a shark jump to discredit focus on the stupidity of over prescribing/incorrectly treating school age children with psychostimulants.
2 s70n3834r 2012-12-16
Not saying I disagree with you about psychoactive drugs, but it really does appear that you have an ax to grind here.
1 Kuldebar 2012-12-16
Axe to grind? Pointing out that applying leverage and then removing the means of the leverage would not be of any practical benefit?
1 s70n3834r 2012-12-16
It just seems like you need suspicion to be focused entirely on the drugs for some reason.
1 Kuldebar 2012-12-16
It seems suspicious to me that you seem so ready to ignore the obvious connection.
1 s70n3834r 2012-12-16
I didn't say anything like that.
1 Kuldebar 2012-12-16
That's exactly my point, stop trying to make my statements into a conspiracy. I focus my opinion on the heavy use of psychostimulants because there's actual evidence connecting it to mass murder sprees. The LIBOR connection to my mind is a tangent with very little to back it up. More importantly, I don't really have an opinion on the matter at this time other than it doesn't appear likely.
1 ronintetsuro 2012-12-16
Take, for example, Nicki Minaj.
It's clear that the people most easily programmed are the people who have had their personalities fractured already by personal events. The handler class then drives a psychological wedge into these people's personalities to break them wide open. The human brain, as a response to trauma, compartmentalizes. It creates new areas of operation away from the trauma memory as a coping mechanism. Some therapists induce this by requesting a patient go to his/her 'happy place', effectively aiding in the re-wiring of the pathways to and through the event.
People are highly susceptible to suggestion while building these new pathways. This is why you often see people going through a divorce radically changing their lives as a result. That is a much more tame version of what is induced in these controlled subjects.
This is not new science. It's been worked on and perfected for decades. With mostly American taxpayer money. It's only now that you are seeing it glorified in the media when it celebrates broken pop stars and has you remembering the name of the last three mass shooter patsies, but not any of the victims.
You see, to the media and those trying to program YOU, the victims aren't important. The name of the shooter is. Think about that.
0 tttt0tttt 2012-12-16
They look possessed to me.
2 Kuldebar 2012-12-16
I have no doubt, it's by what that's the question.