The Magic Rifle

31  2012-12-21 by SovereignMan

Gun Inconsistencies in Sandy Hook School Mass Shooting....

During a newscast on the morning of the shooting it is reported that, according to "federal officials and state officials", an AR15 style rifle has already been found in Lanza's car and four handguns inside the school. Then much later that evening we have a video of officers retrieving a semi-automatic shotgun from the trunk of the car.

So, two long guns were found in the car. Yet the medical examiner confirms that the victims were shot with a "long gun". In this video he doesn't specify but other reports say they were shot with a .223 caliber weapon which is consistent with an AR15.

  • If a search of the car turned up an AR15 in the morning, why wasn't the shotgun also found at that time?

  • Why wasn't the shotgun "found" until evening?

  • Was there yet another AR15 found inside the school along with the four handguns?

  • If there was only the one AR15 that was found in the car how could it have been used on the victims?

Anyone have new updates of the gun count and where they were found?

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The rifle we see in this video is clearly not an AR platform. It's most likely a semi automatic shotgun, like a saiga, as you can see by the cartridge that is ejected on the first cycle and then further you can see that the breach is far too large even from a helicopter. also it wasn't a bolt, or a charging handle. They can't make up their minds as to which gun was used, or they aren't telling us. but I don't think it's likely that we will get a solid report any time soon

I don't think it's likely that we will get a solid report any time soon

I don't think we will, ever.

That's shown in the video I posted and yes, as I pointed out in my text, it's definitely a semi-automatic shotgun.

Edit: My point was that officials stated that an AR15 had been found in the car in the morning and this video takes place in the evening.

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Possible but I think unlikely.

Couldn't it have been early morning when it is still dark? Hell it's still dark at 7:30am here.

It could just be sloppy reporting and not bothering to fix the details later.

It's not a saiga. It's a tube fed 12 gauge semi-auto. Probably a Mossberg 930 SPX with aftermarket thumbhole stock.

So to sum it up: A government-orchestrated massacre that can't even get the pre-made press reports correct.

Sounds genius. Tell me more. It couldn't possibly be chaos of managing a large crime scene.

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way to contribute to the discussion...if you follow the theories behind 9-11 you can see that the press and witnesses comment on explosions, which never happened according to the official reports.

managing a large crime scene.

stating that a rifle is found in the trunk of a car and then reporting that it was used in the school conflicts. no one would take the rifle from the school and just set it down on accident, so where are the reports coming from and why are they incorrect.

OR they made a mistake calling it a rifle initially, and that's as simple as it is.

Of course, you believe eyewitnesses without question so I don't know what I hope to accomplish here.

police would not call a shotgun a rifle.

and i most certainly don't but i'm showing that inconsistencies in "pre-made" media are abundant if you or anyone is going to take that route

They executed the plan perfectly. Mistakes are there on purpose to feed conspiracies and alternative thoughts for no clear conclusion. What they do is feed everyone their preferred piece of cake, so everyone thinks it's something different. It happens often in this type of false flags

i'm not sure that would be how i would go about it

Ever played the game of telephone? How one phrase becomes something else after like 3 people hearing it?

Crazy, isn't it?

Yea and as a conspiracy theorist it seems fishy that there may be a conspiracy, plotting involving two or more people, that is below the surface

Dude, your in /r/conspiracy. Conjecture reigns supreme.

Don't forget that when conjecture becomes proven fact, the nay sayers disappear.

truth passes 3 stages , ridiculed, angrily opposed , then as self evident

.if you follow the theories behind 9-11 you can see that the press and witnesses comment on explosions, which never happened according to the official reports.

really?

But even if that was true, the evidence for a 911 conspiracy has no bearing on existence of evidence for sandy hook conspiracy.

You have no facts to base that assumption on. You have no idea if the people behind that agenda and this agenda have the same end goal.

umm..thats exactly my point. I think we agree with each other

this is the exact reason i was pointing at. there is evidence (eye witness accounts) that were not recorded in the official 9-11 report from the government. the issue is that evidence found and official reports differ. i'm wondering why

evidence (eye witness accounts)

eye witness accounts are not evidence. They're anecdotes. And what anecdotes exactly are you alluding to?

How many AR15's did Nancy Lanza own?

Not enough.

I really question whether she actually owned any, has anyone confirmed this or denied?

Yea I think they traced her gun purchases to a gun store, and then promptly executed a raid on said gun store for some reason.

can you find a link?

Hey , thank you for the link

Sure thing

Easily explained away to many incorrect reports

Which parts?

The whole news channels got it wrong

And the coroner - and the cops getting the gun out of the trunk - and the police saying what was indeed found in the school

The rifle was in the school. Why is it hard to believe there was a mistake either by police or reporters?

They originally said 4 handguns, but there were only 2. What could this be but a mistake? Why would they need to cover up 2 more guns?

They originally said 4 handguns, but there were only 2.

That's backwards. Originally they said two.

I was looking into leftsans yesterday and something about them is very very off. They only get on reddit to come to r/conspiracy and tell everyone they are wrong.

Look at my mini-investigation from yesterday and let me know what you think.

I have to agree with you. Looks like he/she forgot to switch accounts when talking to him/herself.

Because this incident was broadcasted worldwide and made into a large event. Not to mention that identifying a weapon isn't difficult when they have the weapon. The inconsistencies aren't in areas that are easily messed up on. A shotgun barrel and an AR barrel are completely differently bored. The police are also trained and familiar with guns enough to the difference of that at least, especially with the amount involved. If you honestly believe that not one of them would have noticed what kind of weapons they physically saw, then you truly must undermine human capabilities.