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HIPAA prevents a patient's medical condition from being known to others outside the hospital, even their own family members, unless the patient gives consent.

I don't know how i feel about this when the party in question is a public servant(/s). Shouldn't we know the health conditions of the people we are supposed to be following?

She is, however, entitled to a little privacy with regard to the finer details of her medical condition.

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Keep a note, this is one of Government's tricks about Testifying.

In short every government entity on this planet is corrupt

some just are unable to see through the fog...

YOU'RE ALL ALONE. NOBODY IS GOING TO HELP YOU. LEARN TO FEND FOR YOURSELF.

I'll give you guys a little conspiracy to chew on:

Latin American Leaders with Cancer in the past few years:

• Brazil's Ex-President: Luiz Inacio "Lula" da Silva
• Brazil's Ex-Vice President: José Alencar (Deceased)
• Brazil's President: Dilma Rousseff
• Argentina's President: Cristina Kirchner
• Paraguay's President: Fernando Lugo
• Venezuela's President: Hugo Chavez
• Colombia's Ex-President: Álvaro Uribe (I'm not sure if it was confirmed to be skin cancer)
• Colombia's President: Juan Manuel Santos
• Cuba's Ex-President: Fidel Castro (Not confirmed, but probably had)
• Peru's Ex-President: Alberto Fujimori

There are probably more that I can't remember right now.

Yes and all of them except Castro, give away to the public medical reports. With every detail.

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carcinogens.

Psy-op. Not a good one, but one nonetheless.

Evidence?

No evidence, but it all seems off to me. It wouldn't surprise me if it was one of those programs the government has to sway opinions in forums and such. It falls into our government's stance on Venezuela and Cuba and how they are dictatorships and whatnot.

Call me a disbeliever on this one.

And who is to say you're not engaged in psyops yourself for the Venezuelan government by discrediting any criticism of Chavez as "US psyops" with basically no evidence what so ever.

Very true! It works both ways. We will have to take each others word on it or not. That's the internet for ya! :)

If I understand correctly Chavez is quite popular in Venezuela, even so much as he does right by the country and he's pretty beloved by his people. Maybe, just maybe, it's not a conspiracy but instead the Government doesn't want to induce panic. I feel it's the same thing about Hillary, a lot of people in America really like her, especially New Yorkers, they want her to run in 2016, but despite privacy policies hospitals have people tend to panic when they hear of people they support, love, etc could die, or got hurt, and so on. JFK, MLK, when Reagan got shot, the ex pope, MJ's death, Tupac's death, Biggie's death, Billy Mayes even, everyone kinda panicked over it. Because the people loved them. It's not unlikely for a Government to not give many details about these things when it can cause panic, panic is never good despite if the people deserve to know (which I agree with, they should know.) Also, maybe they don't want to say he's dying, or that he's dead until they know for sure. Some cancer patients after receiving treatment can recover quickly and start doing normal things, even if the cancer is still there, they won't get weak and frail from it until it's like a month or so before their predicted time of death. I know this from experiencing this, a couple of people in my family including a few of my mom's friends all have had cancer. Chances are you aren't being controlled by Cuba, but by the Vice President who is receiving orders from Chavez in Cuba. I don't know why everything has to be a cover up, not everything is a conspiracy.

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Nah man, Venezuela is a free country as evidenced by their socialist politics. The real victims here are American middle class white people.

Oh yeah, this. Hate on it all you want, it's sadly true.

Ok you're right in one thing, he's very popular. But man, he's the president, we just elected once again, our constitution said that clearly that in case of absence there's a lot of protocols that right now are being omitted.

About the Cuba control thing, ok dude I live here, in our hospitals we have Cuban medics, our armies generals are talking with Cuban accent , many of our state building have Castros pictures, Cuban flags, Martis pictures and of course Ches pictures when sometimes they omitted a Miranda picture or simply a Miranda flag. I know that not everything is a conspiracy but something is really fucked up here. Why they don't just say the truth if he's dying there's 8 million people that voted for him that deserves to know, and 6.5 million that voted against him, of course me including, that deserves to know.

And finally American middle class white people being victims? Didn't get that. I'm not an American middle class white people, and I've 2 dead cousin by thugs (who are free in the streets), a uncle in jail (Used to work in PDVSA) for crimes that he didn't committed and I've being victims of robbery 3 times in 2012.

American middle class are the true victims because they're the ones that don't see what's going on. While the rich know everything, and are basically behind it all through corporate funds and politics, and the poor don't care enough to know or follow. The American middle class are the only ones who can revolt and stop the international abuse the superpower which is the United States has been taking advantage of. My government wants to take down your leader at the expense of the middle class American tax dollar. It's just not defined down to just white people, every race that's within the American middle class are victims to the American war machine because our money funds the tyranny and we're all forced to do so. Right now my girlfriend is working to pay taxes which are going to the military to pay for bombs being dropped on Pakistani children by drones and she doesn't even know it, the American middle class are just victims of something more twisted and psychological compared to the rest of the world who are victims of physical oppression. Exactly why I resort to selling weed, I don't pay taxes so none of my money gets dirty with the blood of the citizens who happen to live in the Third world countries America is currently exploiting for natural resources.

Back on topic now:

I feel like your country honors Castro as a revolutionary leader who resisted American control seeing how your government is Anti American. Your government possibly could look into Cuba's for political insight, if I understand correctly Cuba and your country are very close allies. And why don't they just tell the truth about him dying? Maybe they don't know for sure if he is or not, and like I said they don't want to release that until they know for sure, so to reduce panic they instead tell everyone they're fine. It's different in Hillary's case, because she actually is fine. Sometimes details don't really matter, like what kinda treatment he went through exactly, every aspect of his recovery process, there is a thing called patient confidentiality and it applies to everyone political leader, celebrity, even the average citizen or criminal (at least until after the criminal's recovery) is entitled to this and it's a universal unwritten law that all doctors follow through out the world. I think it's safe to say when it comes to your leader's medical controversy there isn't some sort of brilliant elaborate conspiracy going on behind it.

Sometime I got the feeling that some Americans (and many people from the first world) see Cuba as a role model to fight the American control and stuff, but you lacked to see the real problems that the Cubans and now the Venezuelan people have. Yes we have a democratic system but right know is very very very damaged, we just abandon the DDHH Organization, there is a lot of political prisoners, that are in jail just for not be with the revolution. Dude not everything is black and white, just because somebody stand against the American control doesn't make him a hero.

I'm against the American control, in fact we lived in the past years before Chavez, the American and British companies doing what ever they wanted with our oil, and the Venezuelan presidents just shot the mouth out, but now we exchange it for a Cuban control instead?

Trust me it is not only country honors, it goes so much beyond that. And if by close allies you mean we give them almost free oil so they can re-sell it to the Chinese to a much high price, and we don't get anything of it, then yes we're political allies.

And as you said before, in your country the rich know everything, the poor just don't care, and the middle class is the one paying the price, well is the same thing here, the rich know everything but they're very secure as long they don't get in Chavez way, so they don't even care, the poor people they don't know anything and don't care of anything as long there's food in the table (and they're sadly the 60% of the Venezuelan population), and the middle class they know whats going on and they care about it, in fact almost 90% of the middle class is oppositions votes.

I don't think a lot of people in America really think about Cuba or Venezuela. We got way more problems than what Cuba or Venezuela does. I believe most people here know that things aren't right in either country. I definitely know that things are not right in either country. If Cuba is such a great place, then why do people each and every year risk their lives sometimes with their children on poorly made rafts in order to reach America? Something ain't right there and things are definitely not right in America especially after all of this fiscal cliff nonsense.

there is a lot of political prisoners, that are in jail just for not be with the revolution.

There are a lot of people who call themselves 'political prisoners'.

Like Raul Diaz, an anti-government terrorist who planted bombs near two embassies in Caracas, and who despite receiving a nine year sentence in 2008, fled to the US, where he claimed to be a "political prisoner" seeking asylum.

There is another field in which the oligarchy is testing the terrain: the so-called political prisoners and exiles. Immediate after their election defeat on October 7th they started a campaign around this question. They say that all those who have been imprisoned for “political reasons” and those who have had to flee the country because of “political persecution” should be amnestied. First of all let us be clear about this question, we are not talking here about people who are persecuted because of their political views, but about politicians who broke the law and are either in jail or (the majority of them) have fled the country to escape justice.

These are the people who carried out the coup in April 2002 (including brief coup-president Pedro Carmona in “exile” in Colombia), the people who organised the sabotage of the oil industry 10 years ago now, Manuel Rosales who was charged with corruption and left for Perú, others who are wanted in relation to the assassination of state prosecutor Danilo Anderson (who was investigating the April 2002 coup when he was killed), etc. These people should be tried and made to pay for their crimes, for which they have not even apologised or shown any remorse.

What about Afiuni, a judge that do her work and free a guy who didn't had anything in his record, and just because Chavez in a public speech said that he deserve 30 years, that judge was put on jail. You now dude, said what ever you want to said, I'm not gonna lose my time arguing with a first world dude who only bases his opinion in the thing that he wants to read. If you wanna come by and see it by yourself, I'll be glad to hosted you. Find my on couchsurfing by the same name here.

Judge Afiuni released Cedeno on conditional bail--and thus able to flee the country, which he did--in an unannounced hearing of which state prosecutors were neither notified or invited to attend. While the President should not have commented on this case, he was right to point out that Afiuni violated juridical practices and helped a criminal banker become a fugitive from justice.

Didn't Chavez bring in a lot of reforms to help out the poor? Lifting the country up as a whole with social reforms designed to help the poor people in your country?

Now comes the best part of all, Maduro was elected as a possible successor leader because his close connection with the Cuban leaders. So right now Venezuela is being controlled directly from Cuba, they said what the Venezuelan people should know and what we shouldn't and soon if Chavez dies, the control is gonna be worse!!!!

Your country is not being controlled from or by Cuba. Your country is under the jurisdiction of your federal government. if Chavez dies, Maduro will apparently become your new president. Maduro works for your country, not Cuba. Alliances and freetrade with another nation is one thing, usurping complete control is a whole other game.

The fact that Chavez is a good president or not is not the topic in discussion here, even tough I'm not a "Chavista", I do recognize Chavez work, but we can talk that in other time.

And no, if Chavez dies, we have elections, and Maduro will be PSUV (Venezuelan Unified Socialist Party) candidate (I don't know who'll be the oppositions candidate, but I guess he's going to lose any way), that's what I meant of successor, we're not DPRK. And by the way, Maduro is by far the least charismatic person in the government, is not the famous one, he never won a election to a public office. On the other hand we've Cabello, once governor of Miranda state, actual president of the Congress, a military comrade of Chavez when he made the coups back in 92, but it is public his rejection to the Cuban system, so no a candidate.

The bold in your comment makes me thing that you're really sure about the things your saying. As I said before, pictures of Castro, Che, Marti, Camilo CienFuego in our government buildings, Cuban flags in some military bases, and the best fact of all, Why the hell Chavez is receiving the treatment in Cuba? when we've one of the best clinic in Cancer treatment in south America. For the way you comment you seem very sure of your of the Venezuelan topics knowledge.

Would you by chance be a member of the upper-middle class income bracket of your country, or higher?

Because of all the Venezuelans I've spoken, to, only those well off who make a lot of money have anything bad to say about Chavez.

I am sure that Cuba does not run your country. Your country is its own country.

Just as I am sure that France does not run Canada.

And you haven't provided evidence to support your idea. The only thing you've provided is a claim that you are Venezuelan. You basically claim that Cuba is running your country because your countries leader is in Cuba getting healthcare and your countries vice-minister has "close ties" to Cuba.

Edit: Then again, such sourcing is totally acceptable here in /r/conspiracy.

Canada has close ties to Cuba too. We communicate with them diplomatically on a regular basis, we have friends there, and we openly vacation there. We have open trade with Cuba as well, allowing private businesses to trade back and forth between our countries. Cuban cigars are a big hit in Canada.

But Cuba does not run Canada just because of that.

I seriously doubt Cuba is actually running your country in any direct fashion. And if they did walk in one day and decide to take over, I'm pretty sure your military would not take kindly to that, neither would your people.

Don't worry, this guy is a classic victim of anti-Cuban propaganda.

Anything Cuban is evil and sinister, even their doctors. Meanwhile this guy vacations in Orlando, FL and thinks the US is the greatest country that ever existed.

Yes I do vacation in FL because part of my family emigrate there, but I didn't and I wont, and if I want to see their faces I've to go there, because they can't enter to Vzla. I live here in Caracas. I've 25 years old, and a acceptable work as software developer, thanks to my dad that pay half of my university and I manage to paid the other half. I don't think US is the greatest country. The other part of my family came from left thinking (two uncles where exiled by the AD governments, for fighting against neon-liberals laws), the first time y voted, y voted for Chavez, just like much of my family and friends. As I said before, Just because someone fight the American control, it is not a Hero. I know that not all the cuban things or sinister, In fact I do admire some of the Ches, Camilo and Marti work and the way of thinking, but what I can really stand is what happening right know, as I said before Cuban flags in our government buildings, we're giving away to them free oil and receiving just the thanks. It's very not cool from you dude to said the thing you said about somebody you don't even know.

Just the thanks? What about the millions of man hours of medical attention?

How can you live in Venezuela and say something so stupid?

Ok when did we had doctors deficit, or something like that? I guess you live here and had gone to a hospital to receive that medical attention.

Are there any Venezuelan doctors out of work today? If not, then yes, there was a deficit of medical care where the poor needed it most.

Not there's not because the leave the country, because they were getting paid less than the cubans. Anyway as I said before this is not the topic discussion here.

We agree that all doctors are busy in Venezuela today.

So if there was no deficit before 10,000 Cuban doctors arrived, you must be claiming that 10,000 Venezuelan doctors have left the country.

Nearly 1 million Venezuelan people left the country in 10 years, in a 2010 study

Hit the first button below the red circles.

We're a family of 5, mom, dad and 3 brothers. One lives in Argentina, the other one lives in Australia, mom and dad are trying to go to Spain. You do the maths.

Edit: grammar and videos.

Just watch that, is a good material of our reality.

And this one too.

Nearly 1 million Venezuelan people left the country in 10 years, in a 2010 study

That's 100,000 a year average. Doesn't sound excessive.

Do you know the corresponding figures for Colombia?

Do you know how many foreigners immigrated to Venezuela during this time?

It is excessive

I'm from England, where we have twice the population of Venezuela.

Annual emigration is over 300,000 per year. That's 150% the per capita rate of Venezuela and nobody considers it excessive.

I cannot believe you said that! Just because you (someone from the middle class) never had any trouble finding a doctor when you needed one doesn't mean there weren't other people (with less resources)--millions of them--who didn't have access to quality medical care!

I've 25 years old, and a acceptable work as software developer, thanks to my dad that pay half of my university and I manage to paid the other half.

I could have sworn higher education is free in Venezuela.

We have free higher education, but also payed education. For example in Caracas there is 5 big and important universities (when I say important, I mean with high academic rating), two of them are free and the rest payed. In my case only one of the free offers my degree and for a few personals reason I didn't went there. But the payed education isn't that expensive like some first world countries. In my case, my university offered me a few helps and scholarships to pay. It really isn't a big deal like the student debt in US and stuff like that.

About the academic difference between the payed and the free, there's not that much, some degrees are better in the payed ones some are better in the free ones. Some free universities sucks, some payed universities sucks, is very relative.

Why would you pay for what you can get for free that is just as good?

In my case my degree was much better in a pay one.

Venezuela still has private universities that charge students tuition, like in the U.S.

Yes I'm a part of the middle class. Just like 90% of the opposition votes, and that's simply because we know we deserve better. But as I said before this is not the topic in discussion here, if you want we can do it elsewhere.

And as for the sources, everything is based on the things we live here day by day and things we know for the few free-lances journalist how remain separates from the government, many of them are just a bunch of stupid liars, but other have been giving away some serious and accurate information. If you want it to believe me or not, is your problem, I wont care anyway.

our constitution said that clearly that in case of absence there's a lot of protocols that right now are being omitted.

The constitution clearly distinguishes between 'temporary' and 'permanent' absences, and says that it is up to the National Assembly to decides which is the case with President Chavez.

If 'temporary', presidential powers may be transferred to VP for up to 90 days (but renewable by NA). If it is deemed a 'permanent' absence, then a new presidential election will be called.

It doesn't seem strange to me that the NA would wait to see the outcome of Chavez's surgery.

dem governments

Not looking good: http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/jan/02/hugo-chavez-delicate-condition-cancer

Sounds like the Castros are trying to set up a puppet state. Bueno sueno a usted y su familia

In fact Castros revolution lived 10 years more thanks to the Venezuelan free oil. They where fucked until Chavez came to power and start giving away our oil.

How is he giving it away yet you spend like 12 cents per gallon of gas? Sounds like you have a surplus.

No, the oil is that cheaper because the government covers the expenses, you can say is subsidized by the government. When we pay for oil, we only pay the transportation and the service to the pumping stations.

Still, you have to admit they are doing it right.

Also, there is a surplus because they are oil-rich. So, that has a lot to do with the prices as well.

Watch some videos I posted in a comment before and you tell me if they're doing it right.

No thanks. I read enough about it to formulate my opinion.

I recall that when President Reagan was shot we were told it was minor and the Vice President did not take over.

Much later we found out how serious Reagan's wound really was.

If it comes out of the mouth of the President's press secretary then it either spin or an outright lie.

We're being ruled directly from Cuba.

That is a great point.

No surprise if they kill him like Yasser Arafat.

All governments lie to their people without exception. In Venezuela they just do it very poorly.

I'm from Italy and let me tell you, if the opposition want someone from power throw a sex scandal. They wanted Berlisconi out so they can win over women, who the only ones protesting!

We just cured cancer in Canada so maybe he's here?

Viva Venezuela. Happiest country in the world and we deserve better. Where's the revolution

That's what some people don't see, we deserve much better.

I have news for you. This happens everywhere where there is a government. Lies and more dirty lies.

not in that level. I mean 4 south American presidents had cancer in the past year, they present medical reports and stuff.

Nah man, Venezuela is a free country as evidenced by their socialist politics. The real victims here are American middle class white people.

That's communism man. I don't think there ever was an accurate accounting of the death of a Russian leader.

Communism/personality cult

Yeah.

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yeah, we are living other times right now. Chavez controls 95% of all radio and TV stations. So the only thing televised is this "revolution". Things are very different from April of 2002.

Proof that Obama has cancer?

I guess evidence and conspiracy theories don't seem to go together....

some just are unable to see through the fog...

YOU'RE ALL ALONE. NOBODY IS GOING TO HELP YOU. LEARN TO FEND FOR YOURSELF.

I'll give you guys a little conspiracy to chew on:

Latin American Leaders with Cancer in the past few years:

• Brazil's Ex-President: Luiz Inacio "Lula" da Silva
• Brazil's Ex-Vice President: José Alencar (Deceased)
• Brazil's President: Dilma Rousseff
• Argentina's President: Cristina Kirchner
• Paraguay's President: Fernando Lugo
• Venezuela's President: Hugo Chavez
• Colombia's Ex-President: Álvaro Uribe (I'm not sure if it was confirmed to be skin cancer)
• Colombia's President: Juan Manuel Santos
• Cuba's Ex-President: Fidel Castro (Not confirmed, but probably had)
• Peru's Ex-President: Alberto Fujimori

There are probably more that I can't remember right now.

How is he giving it away yet you spend like 12 cents per gallon of gas? Sounds like you have a surplus.

Watch some videos I posted in a comment before and you tell me if they're doing it right.