Adam Lanza's Scumbag Mother
0 2013-01-09 by Thevents
She is worried about her son's mental health. She was even considering having him committed to a psychiatric hospital:
She tells a baby sitter never to turn his back on him: http://newsone.com/2105902/adam-lanza-ryan-kraft/
BUT, she leaves him alone in the basement with access to her firearms:
33 comments
9 grandmacaesar 2013-01-09
The key word is in the first sentence of the first article: "allegedly".
We don't know any of this to be true. These are things we are told without proof.
3 Thevents 2013-01-09
Completely agree. What I am saying is that I don't find it believable that Nancy Lanza would simultaneously be considering having her son committed and leaving him with access to guns in the basement.
1 Kuldebar 2013-01-09
We don't even know if she intentionally gave him access or in what manner he gained access to guns in the basement.
The assumption and the presumptions people are being allowed to make was that he was a very disturbed young man, but there isn't a huge amount of evidence being presented that supports that claim. And certainly nothing that indicates he was a violent person with a known history.
Framing Adam's mother in such a way simply fits the official yet entirely unsupported narrative a little too cleanly for my liking.
2 SincerelySincere 2013-01-09
Boom! Nailed it!
"Flawless victory!" :)
Actually, I am just agreeing with you here. They are trying to make her out to be the culprit behind it all. No one wants to count her as a victim. Like you said: Blaming her has been coming on for a while now. And I just don't think that is fair without knowing all the details.
1 Thevents 2013-01-09
Dude, what are you talking about? I agree that there is a paucity of actual evidence. What I am saying is that this part of the narrative is also contradictory and therefore not entirely believable - I know if I had a kid in my basement that was so maladjusted that I was considering having him committed the very first thing I would do is put the guns as far away from him as possible. I wouldn't leave them unlocked in the part of the house where he lived! Did you even read the articles I posted - apparently Nancy Lanza said to a friend she was concerned because Adam had started self harming (burning himself with a lighter), am I really to believe that this behavior wouldn't be an indicator to her that she keep him away from other things that could hurt him even more...like, say, I don't know...GUNS???
-1 Kuldebar 2013-01-09
And everything you stated is based entirely on very questionable information. There is a dearth of information concerning Adam, your links in the OP are full of crap info...information from Adam's baby sitter from fifteen years ago? Come on! Also they are emotionally-centric rubbish using very slim amounts of fact.
It's total speculation. Using a little critical thinking when reading those linked articles leaves one with the conclusion that we don't know a whole helluva lot about what really happened. A good place to start is to cross out paragraphs of shit like this:
And then, consider this:
There hasn't even been a confirmation as to Adam's "disorders".
1 Thevents 2013-01-09
Got to agree with you there. No one has seen him for three years and there is no record of him online.
Exactly. He was so mentally disturbed that she was considering having him committed, but she didn't have the common sense to get the guns away from him? It strains credulity. Are you too fucking dumb to grasp this simple point?
1 Sabremesh 2013-01-09
You need to take a step back and recognise that we (the interested public) actually have NO IDEA what parts of the Lanza backstory are correct.
You don't know anything about Adam Lanza's mental health. There is no reliable public information about this, only rumour and disinfo.
Neither do you know anything about Nancy Lanza, how she treated her son, what firearms she actually possessed and how she secured them.
So why you think yourself qualified to make a value judgment on the woman, or her son is a mystery to me.
All we really know is that nothing about Sandy Hook makes any sense.
Save your value judgments for the fuckers who are preventing the truth from being known - the media, the police and those people who actually do know what happened at Sandy Hook.
1 Thevents 2013-01-09
You aren't following me at all. What I am doing is presenting what is the Official Story and explaining why I think it is questionable.
3 Sabremesh 2013-01-09
Fine, but make your point more clearly, and I recommend you avoid posting "ironic" titles like this one. There are people who are actually blaming this woman based on what the biased and misleading information they have been fed by the media.
0 Thevents 2013-01-09
She should be blamed if the official story is correct, in which case she allowed through negligence her mentally ill son that she was considering having committed access to firearms. She should be sued by the victims.
2 Sabremesh 2013-01-09
Whatever. Why don't you post a link to some genuine medical evidence confirming that Adam Lanza was mentally ill?
By evidence, I mean something a doctor who treated him actually said, rather than a comment attributed to a "neighbour".
0 Thevents 2013-01-09
You are still not following what I am saying buddy. I have repeatedly pointed out that what I am doing is presenting a contradiction in the Official Story narrative.
1 Sabremesh 2013-01-09
The official story is riddled with contradictions and you have no basis for assuming your interpretation (that Adam Lanza's mother was a scumbag) is correct. NONE.
0 Thevents 2013-01-09
Look, according to the Official Story Nancy Lanza both considered having her son committed and left her guns in the basement with him where he had access to them. No sane person anywhere near even average intelligence would do this. Therefore the Official Story strains credulity on this point. If you don't get this then you are fucking moron.
0 Sabremesh 2013-01-09
Your pretence of questioning the official story is an afterthought. Your thread title and explanatory notes prove this was not your original intention. You are a liar and douchebag.
1 Thevents 2013-01-09
Wow, you are dumb. If it was an afterthought then why the fuck did I post it in r/conspiracy?
0 Sabremesh 2013-01-09
It takes someone quite special to get inside the head of someone as dense as you are.
If you are not a liar then you are an incoherent and very muddled individual, amply demonstrated by the fact that you are unable to come up with a simple thread title that adequately encapsulates the point you are trying to make.
1 Thevents 2013-01-09
It was meant to be a play on the scumbag steve meme ya fuckin' tard. Thinks son is so mentally disturbed that he should be committed...doesn't think to take appropriate precautions to ensure he can't access her firearms.
There is nothing even remotely muddled about the point I am making. The reason it appears muddled to you is because you're mind is muddled.
6 Kuldebar 2013-01-09
Sounds like a smear job on a dead woman.
This was seen coming for weeks now, and is only growing in intensity to focus people's outrage away from other matters. The scapegoating of Nancy Lanza
Adam Lanza’s Mother Warned His Former Babysitter: “Don’t Turn Your Back On Him”
Fifteen years ago, he was Lanza’s babysitter...fifteen years ago? Is that even pertinent? You know how many parents say that of their kids, "Don't turn your back on him?"
1 SincerelySincere 2013-01-09
I have heard parents of special needs children say it more than once. Not that I am disagreeing with everything you posted, of course. I just wanted to point out that it wouldn't be unheard of.
1 Kuldebar 2013-01-09
I have heard it said about typically rambunctious kids many times overs.
1 Thevents 2013-01-09
Do they then leave the kids alone with access to guns?
1 Kuldebar 2013-01-09
Why are you even assuming he was given free access to guns? Do banks give robbers access to their vaults?
1 Thevents 2013-01-09
I am saying the narrative we have been given by the media strains credulity.
1 Kuldebar 2013-01-09
Then why are you arguing with me? I am stating the narrative we are being presented with has very little to do with the little known facts in the case.
0 Thevents 2013-01-09
By questioning the media as a reliable source of information you are essentially saying there are no known facts in this case. I agree with you. For instance we don't know that it was even Adam Lanza that did this. What actual evidence has been presented that this is the case?
1 Kuldebar 2013-01-09
I agree. I don't subscribe to the whole theory that it was all made up and actors were used, but I do know there's been very little real information released. The media stuff has been all over the map and now is settling in on a narrative more or less.
Agenda Prevails Over Truth
Has Adam Lanza Even Been Alive the Last 3 Years?
Connecticut Cop Goes Public: Exposes Sandy Hook’s Contradictions, Inconsistencies & Gun Grab Agenda
0 SincerelySincere 2013-01-09
There you go! It isn't too far fetched to hear it, especially with a special needs child IMO. Everything I heard about Adam was that he was special needs. My friend has a ten year old child with special needs that you cannot turn your back on because he will put the cat in the dryer and try to "dry" it off. Cats and dryers do NOT make a good pair. It's messy. I learned that the hard way because I helped that friend clean out the dryer after he did it. Sorry if this grosses anyone out, of course. It's just my experience.
1 Thevents 2013-01-09
The real question is how many say "don't turn your back on him" but then not only do turn their back on him, but turn their back on him and leave him with access to firearms. Meanwhile she is so worried about his mental health she is considering having him committed! Just admit that this either doesn't make sense or the woman would have to be mentally challenged herself.
1 [deleted] 2013-01-09
I think she truly cared about him, she just lost touch with how to take care of him, especially with him being an adult. It was always just her and him, his older brother and father weren't around. I think the whole thing about her trying to send him away to college and places was to try and push him into society to help him, more than to just get rid of him. That's just my feeling about it though.
-2 bresully88 2013-01-09
How dare you say something like that about a deceased person, like u know what happened. You seem more like a scumbag.
-5 Thevents 2013-01-09
If this woman would've acted with a modicum of common sense and kept the guns away from her child that she was considered having committed then 20 children wouldn't have died. I find you being offended by this post a little misplaced. Questionable really.
-5 Thevents 2013-01-09
If this woman would've acted with a modicum of common sense and kept the guns away from her child that she was considered having committed then 20 children wouldn't have died. I find you being offended by this post a little misplaced. Questionable really.
0 Thevents 2013-01-09
Look, according to the Official Story Nancy Lanza both considered having her son committed and left her guns in the basement with him where he had access to them. No sane person anywhere near even average intelligence would do this. Therefore the Official Story strains credulity on this point. If you don't get this then you are fucking moron.