Of course there's proof, the weather man just won't admit it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NDCLe_4ee7A

Sometimes they do.

Wow. Anyone know who that guy is?

They will let you know.

Here's an idea: kickstarter campaign to get funding for equipment to measure atmospheric "particles" (I'm not a scientist, but if you can't get anybody with at least a bit of scientific knowledge you ain't got shit either) in the air. Measure for one year, combine measuring with pictures etc of this trailblazing stuff. Come up with some fucking evidence.

Look, I'm an open-minded guy and I read this shit every week on here, people taking pictures - sometimes close to where I live - of contrails/chemtrails whatever you THINK it is - ITS NOTHING IF YOU CANT PROVE IT. Come on people! Apply general scientific rules to your ideas and fucking DO SOMETHING.

If something is indeed going on it should be very god damned simple to measure that shit coming down if you do it for a year.

Get some Arduino gear, have an electrical engineer design some cheap gear that can be built to analyze the air for whatever it might be they are spraying (if we are to believe this is what they are doing). Put that design in a few location around - obviously an open design similary to for example Raspberry Pi or whatever so that people can do it themselves, go talk to pilots, aircraft designers, aircraft engineers (In the making of an aircraft there are hundreds if not thousands of people involved and most of them would know what a contrail is - or they wouldn't have fucking jobs. Do it in this subreddit - get a sort of group going, we can even create a subreddit dedicated for it - get some funding from the people who frequent this subreddit - like I said, kickstarter. I'd be willing to put some money into it but I can't put any time unfortunately.

To be honest - AGAIN IM AN OPEN MINDED INDIVIDUAL - What are "we" afraid of? Sensors to detect this kind of shit - uploading data via 3G to some central servers for processing etc (if you are a system engineer or similar you can easily see what I'm talking about here) is easy peasy - no big deal. I have seen none of this, I have seen no initiative to make something like this happen - and to be honest this points to the people perpetuating the idea of CHEMtrails as opposed to CONtrails the shills - not the other way around.

I agree I am not making it happen but I don't have the time - I'm saying I have some coin to put into this if somebody (we would need a few people though) with time and knowledge would be willing to MAKE IT HAPPEN ... C'mon people wtf? It's EASY - and I'm sure some of you have the time and the skills... And yes I would obviously have one of these units at my location and would pay for it as well.

Until this happens you can all fuck off with your god damned shitty theories and bullshit blogs.

Am I right?!

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It's not criticism, it's an idea to do something about it. Why are you not contributing? (that sounded real offensive, and I don't mean it like that). But why are you just posting some bullshit links to bullshit blogs without actually contributing with some solid science?

The first picture in your post has been discredited widely as being a photoshopped picture, and although AGAIN I am not sure whether this contrail/chemtrail actually has any worth - the first picture in your post is widely considered a fake.

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If you are truly willing to help then let's get it on? I am willing to spend money and if given enough momentum I can allocate time to once and for all find out if this shit is actually happening. Like I said - I am not convinced everything is as we are to believe it is; take that statement as you will. I am willing to investigate. ARE YOU?

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http://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/16am5u/lets_do_something_about_it_conchemtrails/

Have you seen the studies on metals being present many times more then what it's supposed level should? Many different people in many different places have tried this also, I believe one said usually aluminum reading in a rainwater sample is 0.0012, samples taken in recent times were near 1.4, I would have to find the article to be specific.

http://www.google.com/patents/US7413145

"A method and apparatus for aerial fire suppression utilizing a potable fire retardant chemical dispensing system[...]"

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i.e. water, sea water, fire dispersant.

i.e. water, sea water, fire dispersant

and vaccines!!

uh? i think that's a fire fighting plane.

no no no no. It cannot be that. It MUST be something else.

a pudding dispensing plane for those rowdy parties!

The proof is hidden in plane sight, pun intended.

The paid for political shills rant otherwise. Try not to be intimidated by them.

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Here's my stock responce but I think the links provide some pretty interesting pieces of evidence: would you like to know more? I'd urge you to examine this issue more vigorously, starting with this NOAA article regarding an anomalous doubling in high stratospheric particles in the last decade. There is sufficient evidence that he Western world, particularly the US and EU, engages in large scale weather modification.

This project has multiple components: the dispersion of aluminum oxide particles in the nano scale to increase "cloud" reflectivity, thus dimming the earth below and secondly, the release of metallic ionizing salts (commonly of Ba and Sr) acting as an electrical medium for military radar systems. Some researchers of this false cloud phenomenon have concluded that part of what we are witnessing may be the byproduct of an antistatic agent, Stadis 450 used in military fuel. Released high in the atmosphere, all of these fine aerosols (specifically metallic ionizing salts) can stay aloft for long periods of time and be manipulated by ELF antenna for steering high pressure systems.

Geoengineering/weather/environmental modification is an activity militaries, particularly our Air Force, have identified as a power play in satellite mapping (VRPE) and to influence storm tracking and shifting pressure systems. A LARGE number of these flights are not civilian; moreover modern aircraft engines are much more efficient than these massive plumes of aerosols would indicate. Even assuming absolute humidity conditions, these extensive and persistent trails are not the product of condensation alone. Patents abound on mechanisms for dispersion of salts (ie Welsbach).

The health implications are severe---From a 2004 NCBI article hypothesizing on the origin of MS: "The use of Ba as an atmospheric aerosol spray for enhancing/refracting the signalling of radio/radar waves along military jet flight paths..."

Ok, lets stick with the facts.

This can be used for multiple purposes, as stated above, could be something sinister, could be just a firefighting plane or the like.

We have absolutely no knowledge of what's in the container at this point.

Why on earth would a government asset, dumping illegal chemicals into the air leave the patient on the tanks?

There is know way of knowing if those pics are contrails or chemtrails. I've always noticed that the pics of contrails often have the plane in them, but pics of chemtrails never do. Also people seem to think that contrails don't last more than a few seconds, when they can infact last a fair while.

Also distributing chemicals at such high altitudes is foolish because they would disperse over a very very large area, so the chemicals either have to be extremely potent to work, yet nothing seems to show up when testing is done. Food and drink (mostly water) is a much more sensible way of going about such thing. If it's in the water then it gets into peoples gardens and such a lot more easily.

This isn't proof that it is a chemtrail plane, it's just proof that such a thing is possible. And we have known for a long time that this sort of thing is possible.

BetYouCanNotTellMe and brahmide01 are very, very preoccupied with convincing the public that there is no way that unknown substances are being deployed into our atmosphere. Take that for what it's worth.

I posted two comments in this thread. Yeah, real preoccupied.

You did it last month also. You should be ashamed of who you are.

Ah, so asking for evidence of your chemtrails is shameful.

Didn't some geoengineering organization come out and ADMIT that chemtrails are used for climate control?

Edit: Kind of. And of course Bill Gates is spearheading it :\

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I know. Yikes. The Gates' obsession with birth control/vaccines in the 3rd world is also a little creepy IMHO. No wonder people accuse them of being population-control eugenicist types.

OK, so an inside of a tanker used for the uses you said.

Why is this scary?

Yea that picture on the website looks just like the chemtrails you see in the sky... :/

Proof

Lol.

Lol.

Lol.

Lol.

Cute.

well at least you're not obnoxious.

It's part of Geoengeering, which itself may or may not just be a cover. Scientists have conferences about it. The potential health risks of spraying are debated.

That is all very open, but because the public don't read about it in their daily newspaper or hear it reported in their evening news, it must not exist and anyone who proves it does is not only mistaken but also a crazy mentally ill person who is probably gun-toting and minutes away from committing a massacre.

No pictures of a tanker isn't proof.

Proof would be directly sampling the supposed chemtrails to determine what they are. But you have to ask yourself how those behind the chemtrail conspiracy keep everyone quiet - I mean they never have anyone involved leak.

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Yes they can be used for weather modification - but they say when they are going to do it. The chemtrail conspiracy that says most every plane flying is doing this is simply dumb as is the complete and total lack of physical evidence.

Elaborating on that, cloud seeding is a practice that is done with airplanes and falls under the title of "weather modification." It is not, however, particularly effective.

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Awhile back?? They have it in most US muni water supplies right now.

There is NO SAFE LEVEL OF FLUORIDE. It bioaccumluates, just like gamma radiation.

You know what Sarin is primarily made of? Google that, will you? Take a look at all of those Fs in the molecular diagram. Look up Uranium Hexafluoride and what happened to the folks exposed during the Manhattan Project and afterwards. Look up fluorosilicic acid (what's added to water) and what happens when a microdrop gets on your skin. Scary.

Depopulation doesn't really make much sense. Fluoride in the water goes back decades and "chemtrails" apparently also go back decades. So where's the depopulation?

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You want to know who is going to achieve depopulation if it happens? Those who believe vaccines are evil and that washing hands works better then vaccines.

That you place that much faith into stone tablets is really strange.

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/giggle... excellent response.

That is a rather chicken shit response - that you believe and publicly state that only your side is valid and that anything else is trolling is frankly bullshit.

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You schooled that shill youre a fucking hero

*you're

Shill - the insult people us when they have ran out of cut and paste text to respond with.

But do tell - how am I a shill and what / whom am I shilling for?

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lol.. indeed.

You know I thought you were helpful to the OP until this post.

It always happens when someone seems like they are being helpful, get the other person to invest enough time to a conversation so that when they start throwing insults it stings.

Low blow man. Try to keep it above the belt

which is known to cause severe health problems you left out in large amounts - which also applies to water.

didn't you in another recent post ask for someone to prove how the chemicals are being carried? but someone shows proof of concept here and you say it's meaningless?

be all that you can be.

but be consistent.

I have tried this as I have said before...somewhat successfully.

Aluminum, Barium, trace Strontium. All above GRAS levels.

I'll try to find the post from a month or two back explaining my method and my lab results. Can't type, fixing computers.

Cloud seeding is proof of chemtrails. End of debate.

Bet you guys fall for this shit too?