It explains a lot more than just that actually.

well, I guess he yells to make himself look crazy

No. He yells to make those interested in investigating covert and nefarious truth (AKA "conspiracy theorists") look crazy by associating them with his actions. It's more so that those he is acting as a representative of look crazy.

I always looked at him as being a scary, crazy, uselessly screaming agitator type (agent provocateur) from the moment I first heard him even before I even knew anything really about conspiracy issues, etc. He just always sat wrong with me. Whenever I hear him, I just literally got/get a sick, queasy feeling in my stomach - like something is literally wrong in the atmosphere that he physically inhabits.

He corrodes shit with his very energy so that even when he is saying something that happens to be true or factual, his general energy (to say nothing of the disinfo he includes in what he says) really undermines the messages he spreads (for me anyway).

Well yeah. One, they must pay him a really fat check. Secondly, however, I wouldn't necessarily say that it's actually GUILT he has to live with. You see, if you feel you are part of a greater plan or scheme that is actually something you happen to agree with, then you take on an "ends justify the means" kind of mentality that rationalizes your actions and prevents much if any cognitive dissonance.

This is how, among other things, someone can "value life" and love and hug their cute pet kitten and puppy and yet still go out to KFC and order an extra large bucket of fried chicken wings to chow down while they're watching the Super Bowl without even a second thought. This is how we can hug and love our wife and kids, and yet hop on a plane, go to another country, and machine gun down the wife and kids of entire groups of people.

Humans are beings that can rationalize and compartmentalize their actions on an extreme level.

This is it. This is what we've been conditioned to do.

We've been conditioned to compartmentalize, live in and be okay with a world of cognitive dissonance, embrace that which is contradictory and against that better nature that we know we have inside of ourselves...

I really don't know why but I feel like I'm in a type of shock and literally feel sick that this is what we've (well some people) been made/programmed to do..

This is the world we live in, my brother. It is a very, very dark one...but we as human beings have light inside of us. Many of us may have forgotten about this, but if we focus and concentrate and WORK hard enough, we can begin to shine and emit that light barely flickering inside that is covered in the darkness of this life's imposed ignorance.

To expose that understanding and divinity we all have inside of us and are often aware of on an unspoken, intuitive level is often the life's work we all have to undertake in one way or the other.

Peace/Namaste,

I didn't think she was being portrayed as a "CIA super spy" and honestly I don't think she has to be at all in order for a legitimate red flag to still be thrown up here.

BTW he has done at least 4 different CNN and then 5-6 other interviews calmly over the past 10 years.

lol. Calmly? Well, even if you're right (and I'm not so sure, as every time I've heard him, he's screaming at the top of his lungs), it doesn't to any extent negate the fact that...well...the other 5,000 times he's in the public eye he's screaming at the top of his lungs.

Perhaps he had a super sore throat on the days you saw him when he wasn't screaming. I don't know.

Now I don't know what his problem is yelling and screaming all the time in the new CNN interview with Piers Morgan, but if its evidence of anything, its evidence that he can not control his emotions anymore at all.

Well, I have not at all been a follower of him...but the little that I've EVER seen of him...well, let's just say he's been screaming for as far back as when I first came across him.

I'm glad I couldn't ever stand this douche bag. I'll keep looking into conspiracies, but I wont listen to alex jones. If the evidence is there, I dont need alex to tell me about it. I'll find it.

Yep. Exactly. And for this reason, I haven't seen any of the videos you referenced. After reading your descriptions of them, I'm actually glad I didn't either.

Thanks.

From the OP link.

Six degree of separation. Or in this case (Trapwire>Stratfor>Molly Maroney>Alex Jones) only four.

I wonder if his looking (and being) crazed was not a purposeful ruse designed to discredit those he claims to associate with and be "one of".

he has brought more things to the attention of people who would otherwise not been aware of.

I wouldn't go this far and say this, sir/ma'am. This is, after all, the internet/world wide web. The fact of the matter is that there are a LOT of sites out there that have tons of information, and AJ is only one in a practically countless multitude of sources trying to expose information. Matter of fact, given that AJ is a disinfo pied piper, the information that he has is actually WORSE than many of the sites out there that exist that DON'T engage in disinfo.

So no. I still wouldn't give him any credit whatsoever actually for "being the first to bring many people's attention to the info". They could have and likely would have done it anyway regardless with all the info that's out there and available independent of AJ - and these people would have likely ended up finding out info EVEN BETTER without the craziness of AJ to lead them astray off the trail of the REAL truth.

So no. No credit should be given to him whatsoever for anything but being an evil disinfo pied piper of controlled opposition.

I have always questioned him ever since he appeared at that one rally in downtown Austin with his megaphone and dominated it.

That's what he does. The squeaky wheel always gets the grease, right? Well, he's made sure and made himself into about THE loudest, most annoying squeaky wheel imaginable...and people really do give him a lot of grease (i.e. attention).

Fuck'im. I say let him just keep yelling. Pretty soon he'll turn around and realize that no one is following his loud, annoying, obnoxious ass and he'll shut up after a while.

I liked how he brought up certain things during the Morgan interview that were taboo in the corporate media and is not talked about.

Others could have done it and even better still. He certainly has no "unique" quota on the truth.

Not saying you're saying this at all, btw. I'm just saying.

Instead of harping on the shit we don't like, we should embrace the things he brings out that is otherwise not discussed.

Nope. Again, fuck him. Alex Jones IS a baby that could and should indeed get thrown out with the bathwater. I see what you're saying in terms of taking the information that he provides that is factual, but 1) that factual information can be gotten from a multitude of other sources that aren't him, and 2) enough of those other sources don't mix in distracting shit designed to throw listeners off the real trail of truth (whatever that may be). Additionally (and this is, I think, a REAL important one here) 3) his actual WAY OF BEING and comporting himself sends across the unspoken message that even if you DO have the truth, the way to expose or talk about or explain that truth is by being as loud and angry and aggressive and obnoxious as you can.

This is the WRONG message regardless of the possible truth or validity of the content.

AJ needs to go - 100%. He serves NO purpose whatsoever that cannot be handled by another person (or people) in a manner that is significantly better than he for the purpose of the truth and empowerment movement.

That's my feeling on things, and I meant/mean no anger or aggressiveness toward you - so I apologize if anything I said might have come across in that manner.

Peace,

Do you have a blog?

No sir, ma'am.

What are these other sources you refer to that would have brought these things to light?

I provided links to some of them in the "EDIT" that I posted.

People on this subreddit spend too much time and effort on Alex Jones, both pro and against.

I do not disagree with this.

Right now, particularly, I support what he has done is because a lot of info that would otherwise be no longer be easily available still is in part to his servers still retaining that information.

I disagree with this for the very reasons I previously stated, but I respect your perspective.

Now everything is being more tightly scrutinized and controlled.

Certainly seems that way, yes.

Like him or not, once AJ is gone from the web, it will be a serious loss of information available at the click of the mouse.

I respectfully disagree for the reasons I stated in my previous response, but I do agree that he has provided some valuable info.

I wouldn't for the very reasons that I stated in the above response.

Sounds about the same reaction I had. Good on you.

:)

I personally wouldn't say that "any" mainstream conspiracy site is there to create dissent. While sites such as this one here, etc might have quite a bit of dissent, I wouldn't go as far as to say that they are made up specifically TO create it. I'm the first one to be on the look out for shilldom, but I'm not certain EVERY source should be looked upon as one.

Absolutely. Agreed. However, while skepticism is a good thing initially and with regard to data you might not know much of anything about, it seems that many people here on Reddit and elsewhere make the heinous mistake of actually priding themselves in calling themselves a "skeptic" to the extent that they literally throw away info that's staring them right in the face even if it proves itself to be very valid only so they can continue pridefully claiming to be "skeptical" about it.

I've seen this unfortunate trend many times replete amongst many neophytes ignorant of what it means to be truly discerning and critical of information one way or the other.

Therefore, while I ultimately TOTALLY agree with what you just said here, I do think it's important to - in the course of that skepticism and cross referencing - make sure to stop and realize what information you come across that is worthy of acknowledging as actually truthful.

Agreed. More importantly, however, people need to simply stop listening to him. He is more likely to shut the fuck up when he realizes that people understand him to be the king shill in an army of shills.

The fat, nasty, slothering hunk of festering meat that spends its time spitting and screaming insanities at the top of his god forsaken lungs.

...okay...maybe I got a little carried away with that one.

I personally cannot even speculate on that, as I haven't done enough research to know who exactly she is or is not. Seems that there is enough other incriminating enough stuff on AJ for him to deserve NOT being followed to the extent that he is even if the Molly Marone stuff wasn't as true and factual as it does actually seem to none the less be.

There's a LOOOOT more that we don't know (and that we haven't been told) than there is that we do know (or that we have been told).

If everyone is as aware as they should be, then he wouldn't have anywhere near as big a following as he does. The fact that he still does seems to indicate that there are, unfortunately, a LOT of people who still haven't noticed.

Do you have proof that this someone you claim doesn't have any proof actually doesn't have any proof? In other words, what's the difference between their allegations against the Alex Jones connections they're claiming and what you're claiming against them right here right now? Did you look up any of the names they referenced and fact checked them to see if they're lying or not about what they said? It actually seems to me that they themselves are providing more evidence in support of their claims - at least bothering to walk the viewer through the steps they took to come to the information that they came to - than you yourself are coming up with in claiming that they're lying or don't have the proof or information they say they have.

If you do have proof that the individual in question actually doesn't have any proof, then please provide it. I think it would actually be very helpful to everyone, as it would help those of us interested in such to get even closer to the actual truth of things.

Otherwise, it seems that you just came on here to simply naysay and deny things with even less critical thought involved on your part than the individuals you're attempting to vilify and criticize.

There's no evidence, she just googled Alex Jones editors name and saw that she worked for a company that was run by the CIA.

That's evidence right there. Not sure if you were aware of that part or not.

I googled too and saw that this wasn't a secret

Doesn't have to be a secret to still be a damning point.

Alex hired her because she worked for the CIA.

Really? "Because"? Why because? What was it about her working for the CIA that made AJ specifically want to hire her because of it? Regardless of what the answer is, the fact that there is a connection is none the less valid.

But apparently this is enough info for the youtube lady in conjuction with Tila freakin' Tequila to declare that Alex Jones works for the CIA.

While it I wouldn't disagree that it shouldn't be looked upon as a smoking gun in and of itself, one would also be VERY remiss to discount this bit of information as quickly and off handedly as you seem to want to.

Now, I am still reading the blog but facts like "Alex Jones started in 1996 and Stratford started in 1996" isn't proof of anything but both things happening in 1996.

You also have to keep in mind that in the world of complicated and covert operations (psyops, cointelpro, etc), connections are almost NEVER spelled out for you. You as a researcher have to be diligent about looking for and making connections that may indeed exist, but that may also be purposefully hidden from you. Some of those connections might very well not be valid. They may be cold trails. They may be "plants" - disinfo. This is all true. However, the idea is to pursue as many avenues of possibility as one can, and (again) you would do yourself a disservice if the modus operandi of your investigative approach involved simply throwing away possible leads as quickly as you seem to want to do here.

I'm sure to some people it will be enough to call for the death of Alex Jones though

Perhaps. I think doing that would be just as childish and ineffective, however, so since what you just mentioned in this sentence doesn't apply here, perhaps we can move past the comment as unnecessary.

This is why I am enjoying this.

It would seem to me that if you think about this topic in the closed manner that you have already expressed here, then you are one who enjoys wasting their time.

Actually enjoying wasting your time personally sounds to me like a colossally and mind-bogglingly ineffective thing to do - something which seems MUCH less desirable than actually pursuing something that you might find worthwhile and valid. However, if remaining on here helps you enjoy yourself - helps you "get your rocks off" as it were - then, by all means, carry on.

Yes. Of course. These are all valid and good points. Agreed. I don't think the rabbit hole necessarily stops there, however, and - given the world we live in - I personally don't think it's a bad idea to be willing to be on the look out and keep your eyes open for any other types of connections that might be the case that you might not have thought about before or anticipated.

Seems like it's just better to be safe than sorry - especially when one is swimming in these types of waters.

Okay. I just want to get a better understanding of whatever the truth of the insanity on this planet is. I guess we just have to keep our eyes VVVEEEERRRRRYYYY open and possibly be ready for pretty much anything and everything.

Stay diligent.

Best,

while romantic, that's not true at all.

I find nothing romantic about this. Perhaps you do, and it seems romantic to you, but there's not much about what I said that seems that way to me.

Man was looking to the stars in the most peaceful of times.

The most peaceful of times? Is that what you think? Okay.

I'll just use your own words and say that "while romantic, that's not true at all."

We are engineers by nature - we're curious by nature.

I'd say there is ample evidence and argument indicating this is nowhere near as much the case as you or others might think.

To say that people have to be destroying eachother for that to happen is...well - just flat wrong..

That's not what's been said.

It's not about what you mentioned here. It's not about Stratfor and Alex Jones. It's about the extent toward which there is a group on this planet that's been said to have almost limitless control over things here - that controls Statfor, AJ, the CIA, and pretty much every other entity of influence - and that group uses that influence toward nefarious ends. That much seems obvious to anyone with even half a critical thinking brain cell and it is certainly a fact that exists INDEPENDENT of any data in the HH link.

The connection lies in the tie between that uber influential group that definitely DOES exist on this planet, and who that group actually might be, where they might come from, and what purpose and reason they might have for being here according to the information in the HH link.

Is this actually the case? I, of course, don't know. Again, I'm merely providing the information as definite food for thought for inquiring minds. If you're not one or didn't get anything out of it, then that's okay too.

Cheers,

Yes, it's called a shadow government

Nope. Sorry. That's not it either. Wrong again. What's being talked about here is an agency that controls the shadow government.

Your incredulity notwithstanding, your general energy is that which tends to allow certain types to continue unabated.

Oh well. It was never really questioned too much if at all on my part that this planet isn't one of general ignorance, so the reaction from most who think themselves "aware" is understandable.

Not only are your supposed "facts" incorrect, but your attempts at sounding intelligent failed laughably. Very interesting how it is that you illustrate the very things you attempt to criticize others of. Well done.

Carry on then.

Your thinking that I feel threatened by someone like you seems to stem more from an interest you have in thinking that you or anything you say is actually that important.

It's not.

And I would actually certainly hope that my "true colors" have shown, as I've never tried to do anything but be honest and forthright.

You are the type that has an interest in arguing and trying to make yourself feel "right" about things. You're what's commonly referred to as an "internet warrior". Your ego gets waxed and stroked if you feel you got to have the last word in. It makes you feel good. I understand.

Very well then. I shall let you indulge yourself in your childish chicanery. Go ahead and say whatever it is you feel will make you feel better about yourself.

Enjoy, and have fun.

I didn't think she was being portrayed as a "CIA super spy" and honestly I don't think she has to be at all in order for a legitimate red flag to still be thrown up here.

BTW he has done at least 4 different CNN and then 5-6 other interviews calmly over the past 10 years.

lol. Calmly? Well, even if you're right (and I'm not so sure, as every time I've heard him, he's screaming at the top of his lungs), it doesn't to any extent negate the fact that...well...the other 5,000 times he's in the public eye he's screaming at the top of his lungs.

Perhaps he had a super sore throat on the days you saw him when he wasn't screaming. I don't know.

Now I don't know what his problem is yelling and screaming all the time in the new CNN interview with Piers Morgan, but if its evidence of anything, its evidence that he can not control his emotions anymore at all.

Well, I have not at all been a follower of him...but the little that I've EVER seen of him...well, let's just say he's been screaming for as far back as when I first came across him.