r/conspiracy: On Why I'm Not Nuts

On Why I'm Not Nuts

57 2013-01-14 by sizzletron

It's been almost 20 years since this happened to me but I thought I'd get around to writing this down... This actually happened to me. This did not come from the internet.

In Canada, round about 1996-97 the Quebec Separation issue was ubiquitous. Lucien Bouchard was the most hated man in Anglo-Canada and you couldn't open a newspaper or turn on the news without being driven nuts by it all.

Back then I was very interested in the news. I listened to CKNW whenever possible and read the paper every morning at work. I opened the paint store I was working at every morning at 7am. I would read the paper in the manager's office, hoping no customers would materialize.

One day whilst perusing the Globe & Mail, for some reason, I was scanning the classified ads. Don't ask me why, they are as dull as paint drying. But being news centric, I spotted a tiny ad about the referendum. It said something like this:"Are you sick of Quebec Separation? Are you tired of Quebec always wanting their way? Is Separation the end of Canada? Call Helen Burke at: 905-xxx-xxxx" And for some reason I clipped out this tiny, tiny ad, and put it in my wallet. Upon arriving at home after work, I stuck it to the fridge with a magnet and promptly forgot about it.

Six months or so pass and that ad is a distant memory. I wake up one Saturday morning with the long-weekend off and not a dime to my name. Ohh the self-sorrow I feel. I am making coffee and open the fridge to discover there's no cream. Oh, woe is me. As I close the fridge door, I spot this little ad. I slowly recall what it was, and how I planned to call this number one day. So I decide today is the day; I will distract myself from the ominous penniless long-weekend by calling the lady in this ad.

I truck my scalding hot coffee to the living room, ad in hand. Setting down on the sofa I reacquaint myself with the details. I have to know who to ask for, after all. And I dial....

A few rings later a woman's voice comes on the line, "Hello?"

My reply is quick if distracted, "Hi, my name is Mike, I'm calling about the classified ad you posted in the Globe & Mail six months ago."

She replies with a gasp and a labored exhalation. She can't believe someone has seen it and I concur; the referendum is ubiquitous. It's at this point where things became strange. She asks me why I'm calling. I tell her it's about the Quebec Separation ad she posted in the G&M and I read it to her.

"That's not the ad I posted!" she protests. I ask her what she means. It turns out her name isn't Helen Burke, it's Helen Boychuk. And her ad wasn't about Quebec,-- it was a petition to other victims of Dr Ewen Cameron's LSD/psycho-torture research on behalf on the CIA in the late 1950s and early 1960s, to come forward and share the details of their encounters. I repeated the ad to her, word for word. And proceeded to talk with her about all of this. She told me of the experiments she was subjected to, the drugs, the films and video she watched, the music in the headphones and of the psychiatrists and psychologists. She was clearly paranoid. I don't say that to smear her credibility. This woman was terrified for her very life. She was convinced they were poisoning her through the taps in her apartment and they were spying on her, on her phone calls, and following her.

I wrapped up with her after about 90 minutes and hung up. Quite frankly I didn't know what to think. All I knew at that moment was I had something to distract me for the duration of my poverty long-weekend. More than enough.

Two weeks later, I turned on the TV and there on CBC was a (Fifth Estate/Passionate Eye, I don't recall exactly) documentary about how the US Government was FINALLY, after 40 years admitting the CIA had in fact been performing mind-control, brainwashing experiments at McGill University in Montreal and they were (what's that, I can't hear you, could you please say that a little louder?) ahem, sorry. The doc's focus was twofold: 1) Had the American CIA in fact done this? and 2) How did this happen at a Canadian University to Canadian Citizens?

The conclusion was something along the lines of mortal disbelief at the fact that this happened with the blessing of the Canadian Government, that they used persons with mental illnesses and that they had covered it up.

Suffice it to say the MOST notable thing I took from this encounter was this: Some person or persons at the Globe & Mail saw her ad, changed the content of the ad to something so boring and ubiquitous as to never be noticed, much less taken seriously and Ms Boychuk's name was changed.

You tell me what to think about all of that...

26 comments

18 goz11 2013-01-14

McGill (Canada), Stanford (U.S.) and Tavistock (U.K.) are 3 research centers for government mind control experiments. There are others but these are major ones.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_MKUltra

13 drunkenshrew 2013-01-14

The cover up of MK-Ultra didn't stop when Richard Helms ordered the destruction of the files.

For example the McGill university fails to mention Cameron's gruesome experiments on its official website. http://www.archives.mcgill.ca/resources/guide/vol2_3/gen01.htm#CAMERON,%20DONALD%20EWEN

The former Former Nebraska State Senator, author and attorney, John DeCamp believes that former CIA-director William E. Colby was murdered because he wanted to warn the world of the danger of mind control and help to stop still ongoing projects [podcast about 1 hour long]. http://www.kpfa.org/archive/id/68122

An organization which helped cover up much abuse is the false memory syndrome foundation. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zozCUgqcwsk

10 darkgamr 2013-01-14

Just for future reference, titling something "On Why I'm Not Nuts" ensures most readers are just going to blow you off as some guy whos nuts.

12 sizzletron 2013-01-14

My tongue was firmly planted in my cheek, truth told. But I getcha.

7 MichaelDRennie 2013-01-14

I don't get it, why even change the ad, but still post her phone number and first name? Why not just leave her ad out of print?

5 BearIsDrivingCar 2013-01-14

They almost never do the obvious so as to throw people off. It is just as good to change the info so if anyone actually calls her she tells them the truth and seems even crazier than before.

Perhaps just to drive here even further into fear and paranoia, once she learned about the change from people calling her.

3 KonDon 2013-01-14

no fucking clue. There are so many times when thinking about conspiracy I ask myself this question. "Why would they do x, wouldn't it be easier if they just did y?" But it's pure speculation on my part. The story is interesting OP, and the CIA experiments are beyond fucked up.

1 sizzletron 2013-01-14

Damned if I know. Because the person who changed it was farther down the production line than the person who took the order for the classified ad?

1 Trevmiester 2013-01-14

So they can still say that they just made a mistake in communication. If they change everything then they have no leg to stand on. If they just change the last name a bit they can just say they heard her last name wrong and that her topic must have been misunderstood by the person taking the call.

5 oblate_sphere 2013-01-14

The USA took nazi scientists and doctors after the war into their own. It's not surprising that unethical medical experiments such as these continue. They fit the pattern. Look at the operation where the CIA got prostitutes to dose johns with LSD and studied them from behind one way glass. Monstrous. Probably Owsley, the Merry Pranksters and the Dead were all involved in the scheme.. Where did Ken Kesey get the acid from - sandoz? And he was an all american football playing boy... just like Jim Morrison.

4 goz11 2013-01-14

Were did "the family"http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Family_(Australian_New_Age_group) get LSD to drug children (Assange) ?

When Julian was 8-years-old, his mother, Christine, married a member of "The White Brotherhood" - aka "The Family" or Santiniketan Park Association, a private psychiatric hospital on the outskirts of Melbourne Australia.

In the 1960's-1980's, the Santiniketan Park Association received CIA-Sandoz LSD-25.

The "Family" was related to the Nazi "Lebensborn e. V." organization founded in December, 1935 as a "registered association" ostensibly to foster population increase in 'declining' 'pure Aryan' stock in Europe.

The dots between Wikileaks residing on Pirate Bay's P2P servers in Stockholm, which are owned by Carl Lundstrom, the self professed Swedish neo-Nazi and financial backer of Sweden's fascist political party, the Socialistiska partiet.

http://www.henrymakow.com/stranger_than_fiction_life_of.html

Sarah Moore alleges that Sandoz, part of the old I.G. Farben complex, provided the cult with free LSD.

Sandoz bought the family business of 'Swiss Nazi financier' Carl Lundstrom.

One of Lundstrom's endeavors is Pirate Bay which hosts WIKILEAKS, in Sweden.

http://aangirfan.blogspot.com/2010/10/assange-and-brainwashing.html

The building was the headquarters for research projects relating to the development of Nazi wartime synthetic oil and rubber, and the production administration of magnesium, lubricating oil, explosives, methanol, and Zyklon B, the lethal gas used in concentration camps.

The IG Farben Building was developed on land known as the Grüneburggelände in Frankfurt's Westend District. In 1837, the property belonged to the Rothschild family. In 1864, the city's psychiatric hospital known as "Affenfelsen" or "Affenstein"', was erected on the site

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IG_Farben_Building

3 oblate_sphere 2013-01-14

Julian Assange (and others) appear similar to Brzezinski to me. Related?

Eric Burdon and The Animals "A Girl Named Sandoz"

1 goz11 2013-01-14

Can you provide more information ?

4 s70n3834r 2013-01-14

I think secret society; what else has tentacles so pervasive.

3 [deleted] 2013-01-14

I want to come live in Quebec

2 jf_ftw 2013-01-14

I'll actually believe this story. I do think she was paranoid about the taps and whatnot. But we've been conditioned to write these people off as nut jobs. However, all you have to do is look up MKUltra and there has to be a few of these victims floating around in society. Personally, I doubt the program ever stopped, it's just deep black now.

2 BobScratchit 2013-01-14

Two things. 1, she seemed paranoid and/or crazy. 2, why didn't she call the newspaper and set them straight on the ad?

0 Give_it_a_Read 2013-01-14

Because that wouldn't make for a giant wall of text if he called and got the wrong number.

2 r0t0r00t 2013-01-14

I believe you and you're not crazy.

1 The_Correctionist 2013-01-14

lol

2 joseph177 2013-01-14

yes Canada has a very checkered past with many skeletons in th closet...the university was leading the charge on mind control.

1 leftystrat 2013-01-14

Dyslexic typesetter? :)