Can someone please explain why industrial hemp is illegal? I've been searching for years and the only answer I ever find is that the government is corrupt.
You're probably right that cotton and other industries (plastics, food, fibers, etc.) helped start prohibition of this industrial plant (I personally believe this), but I'm wondering if anyone has found an explanation that doesn't involve some kind of conspiracy.
an explanation that doesn't involve some kind of conspiracy.
There is only one.
Some people are incapable of minding their own business. They're nosy and they think they're better than you and know what's good for you. That defect in their personality becomes a societal defect when we let these dipshits dictate policy.
Well not technically true, as all types "marijuana" have THC though in industrial hemp it's normally very low (Below 1%). Therefore industrial hemp is of no use as a recreation intoxicant.
Well as far as I know GMO hemp isn't in production yet, but rather the low THC content is the natural state of the plant. That selective breeding has resulted in higher THC contents.
The hemp industry is just a victim of protetionism. I wouldnt even call it a conspiracy because I dont think anyones trying to cover it up. I dont have any sources, so take my beleifs with a grain of salt.
None come to mind although I'm sure there are plenty. However, the whole electric car conspiracy might apply here. I haven't done much research on the subject, but the basic idea is the oil industry, in conjunction with the government, killed the electric car before it took off. There's a movie called "Who Killed the Electric Car?" that I'm gonna watch because your post reminded me. I thobk its on netflix. You might find it interesting too.
Because hemp doesn't grow as well in the same climate. Also because the hemp industry at one point was entirely Mexican. You also have to think of all the clothing companies that are completely dependent on the status quo.
There's no good reason why it's illegal. I wouldn't get too excited about it, though. It's legal in China for example, but isn't grown much there because it's not that profitable.
William Randolf Hearst wanted to get rid of the competition from a new hemp paper machine. He had just invested a large sum in forests for paper pulp and the Cotton lobby didn't want to compete with hemp which was a better product.
Newspaper publisher William Randolph Hearst led the crusade to ban hemp. Hearst owned millions of acres of prime timber land and a machine that simplified the process of making paper from hemp had just been invented.
Racial hatreds were used to ban marijuana and hemp together to get them what they wanted.
HARRY J. ANSLINGER "The Father of the Drug War" Commissioner of the U.S. Bureau of Narcotics 1930-1962 "
Quote...the primary reason to outlaw marijuana is its effect on the degenerate races." specifically" Negroes, Hispanics, Filipinos, and entertainers. Their Satanic music....."
Harry J. Anslinger quotes:
There are 100,000 total marijuana smokers in the US, and most are Negroes, Hispanics, Filipinos and entertainers. Their Satanic music, jazz and swing, result from marijuana usage. This marijuana causes white women to seek sexual relations with Negroes, entertainers and any others.
Marihuana leads to pacifism and communist brainwashing.
Reefer makes darkies think they're as good as white men.
Marijuana is the most violence-causing drug in the history of mankind.
Marijuana is an addictive drug which produces in its users insanity, criminality, and death.
You smoke a joint and you're likely to kill your brother.
Hearst and DuPont bought and paid for that law, but it was cheap at a time when people were still thinking "blue laws" were a good idea. Tying reefers to racism made banning hemp a popular move, something you still find in drug policy.
you answered you own question. its an overly simplified version, but correct. hemp poses a direct threat to the bottom line of quite a few industries, and thats all it takes.
The fact that it is a schedule I drug (defined as having no medical purpose) and yet has several proven medical uses, shows you that corruption is the ONLY answer.
You can apply with the US DEA for a permit to raise it. Hawaii passed a legislation to run an experimental hemp farm on the state ag research center back in 1999. Nothing else heard on such.
IMO I think that the bureaucratic of permits all the drug enforcement harassment of inspections in being compliant makes it difficult to run it as a profitable business. It's a shame. I bought a couple of hemp shirts in Puna hemp shop about year 2000. Mold grows easily on clothes in the tropics and none of it shows and they are rugged and still I have had no need to replace them.
You're probably right that cotton and other industries (plastics, food, fibers, etc.) helped start prohibition of this industrial plant (I personally believe this), but I'm wondering if anyone has found an explanation that doesn't involve some kind of conspiracy.
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12 john_madden_advice 2013-01-14
Protecting the domestic cotton industry.
6 mikermccafferty 2013-01-14
You're probably right that cotton and other industries (plastics, food, fibers, etc.) helped start prohibition of this industrial plant (I personally believe this), but I'm wondering if anyone has found an explanation that doesn't involve some kind of conspiracy.
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3 john_madden_advice 2013-01-14
There is only one.
Some people are incapable of minding their own business. They're nosy and they think they're better than you and know what's good for you. That defect in their personality becomes a societal defect when we let these dipshits dictate policy.
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1 arealitychecker 2013-01-14
Well not technically true, as all types "marijuana" have THC though in industrial hemp it's normally very low (Below 1%). Therefore industrial hemp is of no use as a recreation intoxicant.
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1 arealitychecker 2013-01-14
Well as far as I know GMO hemp isn't in production yet, but rather the low THC content is the natural state of the plant. That selective breeding has resulted in higher THC contents.
2 EddyBernays 2013-01-14
It's not really conspiracy so much as that's what they did.
You should really watch this documentary. It will explain to you why marijuana is illegal and set you in the right direction for further research.
1 PdubsNWO 2013-01-14
I wouldnt really call that a conspiracy thats just how business works.
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4 PdubsNWO 2013-01-14
Apparently, they do.
6 iceman15951 2013-01-14
That NOT how businesses work bro. Thats how government influenced, corrupt businesses work. aka Crony Capitalism.
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-2 Limrickroll 2013-01-14
Not supposed to work that way? According to whom?
-2 Lamar_Scrodum 2013-01-14
The hemp industry is just a victim of protetionism. I wouldnt even call it a conspiracy because I dont think anyones trying to cover it up. I dont have any sources, so take my beleifs with a grain of salt.
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3 Lamar_Scrodum 2013-01-14
The theory of passing legislation to protect the stability of an industry. In this case, cotton or paper
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4 Lamar_Scrodum 2013-01-14
None come to mind although I'm sure there are plenty. However, the whole electric car conspiracy might apply here. I haven't done much research on the subject, but the basic idea is the oil industry, in conjunction with the government, killed the electric car before it took off. There's a movie called "Who Killed the Electric Car?" that I'm gonna watch because your post reminded me. I thobk its on netflix. You might find it interesting too.
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Also paper. The guy that owned the newspaper vilifying weed owned a lot of interest in pulp and paper mills.
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-1 john_madden_advice 2013-01-14
Because hemp doesn't grow as well in the same climate. Also because the hemp industry at one point was entirely Mexican. You also have to think of all the clothing companies that are completely dependent on the status quo.
3 Atomicatom0 2013-01-14
Wow, you're painfully wrong. "Prior to World War II, Kentucky led the nation in providing 94 percent of all industrialized hemp."
http://kentuckyhempcoalition.blogspot.com/?m=0
1 john_madden_advice 2013-01-14
Your source is somewhat confusing. Further down the page it says
Although I get the point that Kentucky doesn't have a Mexican climate. Perhaps Kentucky's hemp production was due more to the population and culture.
5 luxuries 2013-01-14
There's no good reason why it's illegal. I wouldn't get too excited about it, though. It's legal in China for example, but isn't grown much there because it's not that profitable.
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2 luxuries 2013-01-14
Understood. We should legalize both plants!
1 luxuries 2013-01-14
Understood. We should legalize both plants!
5 Superconducter 2013-01-14
William Randolf Hearst wanted to get rid of the competition from a new hemp paper machine. He had just invested a large sum in forests for paper pulp and the Cotton lobby didn't want to compete with hemp which was a better product.
http://altahemp.com/hempinfo.html
Racial hatreds were used to ban marijuana and hemp together to get them what they wanted.
HARRY J. ANSLINGER "The Father of the Drug War" Commissioner of the U.S. Bureau of Narcotics 1930-1962 "
Quote...the primary reason to outlaw marijuana is its effect on the degenerate races." specifically" Negroes, Hispanics, Filipinos, and entertainers. Their Satanic music....."
Harry J. Anslinger quotes:
There are 100,000 total marijuana smokers in the US, and most are Negroes, Hispanics, Filipinos and entertainers. Their Satanic music, jazz and swing, result from marijuana usage. This marijuana causes white women to seek sexual relations with Negroes, entertainers and any others.
Marihuana leads to pacifism and communist brainwashing.
Reefer makes darkies think they're as good as white men.
Marijuana is the most violence-causing drug in the history of mankind.
Marijuana is an addictive drug which produces in its users insanity, criminality, and death.
You smoke a joint and you're likely to kill your brother.
3 rum_rum 2013-01-14
Hearst and DuPont bought and paid for that law, but it was cheap at a time when people were still thinking "blue laws" were a good idea. Tying reefers to racism made banning hemp a popular move, something you still find in drug policy.
3 itsdafuzzshiit 2013-01-14
you answered you own question. its an overly simplified version, but correct. hemp poses a direct threat to the bottom line of quite a few industries, and thats all it takes.
3 Limrickroll 2013-01-14
It got lost in all the noise about legalizing weed, but hemp as a crop is also now legal in Colorado.
3 CollectCallFrom 2013-01-14
What about Washington?
2 danxmason 2013-01-14
The fact that it is a schedule I drug (defined as having no medical purpose) and yet has several proven medical uses, shows you that corruption is the ONLY answer.
2 [deleted] 2013-01-14
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RH__GUg1EwY
1 hanahou 2013-01-14
You can apply with the US DEA for a permit to raise it. Hawaii passed a legislation to run an experimental hemp farm on the state ag research center back in 1999. Nothing else heard on such.
IMO I think that the bureaucratic of permits all the drug enforcement harassment of inspections in being compliant makes it difficult to run it as a profitable business. It's a shame. I bought a couple of hemp shirts in Puna hemp shop about year 2000. Mold grows easily on clothes in the tropics and none of it shows and they are rugged and still I have had no need to replace them.
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1 tingtongfarang 2013-01-14
Has to do with the FDA and hemp may not contain THC so it's not a violation of federal laws
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1 tingtongfarang 2013-01-14
food and drug administration, at least this is what the police used in federal cases instead of local state laws in the USA.
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1 tingtongfarang 2013-01-14
Actually sorry, I think it is the Health & Safety codes. Sorry I was trying to reply and forgot what the actual charge was a friend received.
edit: http://www.leginfo.ca.gov/cgi-bin/displaycode?section=hsc&group=11001-12000&file=11357-11362.9
0 weakmoves 2013-01-14
cause drugs er bad mkay
6 mikermccafferty 2013-01-14
You're probably right that cotton and other industries (plastics, food, fibers, etc.) helped start prohibition of this industrial plant (I personally believe this), but I'm wondering if anyone has found an explanation that doesn't involve some kind of conspiracy.
Edit: grammar
2 [deleted] 2013-01-14
Also paper. The guy that owned the newspaper vilifying weed owned a lot of interest in pulp and paper mills.