So the L.A. police are searching whatever homes they want now.
112 2013-02-08 by [deleted]
"400 homes expected to be searched this evening, more than half done."
This is bullshit. They probably consider him a terrorist and are violating all of our rights by searching 500 homes of their choosing.
So it's allowed when there's a fugitive on the run. Decided in 1967; still fucking bullshit.
See https://bulk.resource.org/courts.gov/c/US/387/387.US.294.480.html for more information.
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16 acronyman 2013-02-08
All it takes is a facebook post and a news conference. It's so deviously simple.
Who's word are you going to take that there's a fugitive on the run? The people imposing the searches? That's some catch.
7 elj0h0 2013-02-08
This is always the problem. People shouldn't worry about the law as much as they should worry about who decides when that law is broken
10 MellowFellow- 2013-02-08
Live LAPD Dispatch:
http://www.radioreference.com/apps/audio/?feedId=3711
2 razten 2013-02-08
Nice!
8 yangx 2013-02-08
I'm sorry forefathers what is this 4th amendment you speak of
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9 digger_ex_pat 2013-02-08
Under the law and the constitution (remember that?) a renter (even a hotel room renter) has the same rights as a home owner.
0 Your-Wrong 2013-02-08
I don't believe that is true, can you show me some sources?
It would be up to the owner who, in the best interest of business security, would certainly allow the search.
2 digger_ex_pat 2013-02-08
Is there a right to privacy in my hotel room?
Generally, yes, you have a right to expect privacy in your hotel room as long as you are using the hotel room in a normal, responsible way. However, if you are engaging in anything illegal or disturbing other guests, hotel management can enter your room without your permission.
Note that hotel management, not the police, can enter the room without your permission and hotel management cannot give the police permission to search your room. The police must go through the usual process, which usually means getting a warrant before they are allowed to search your room.
A final exception to your right to privacy is for cleaning and maintenance. Hotel management does have the right to enter your room to clean or perform necessary maintenance.
1 Your-Wrong 2013-02-08
This basically says the police can not treat a hotel as public space.
The owner is that -- The owner. It is HIS property. If he chooses to allow police to search your room, your rights do not extend to the owners property.
Could the police search this hotel without the owner's consent or a warrant? No.
Can the owner give permission to search that supersedes the renter's wishes? Absolutely.
Key words in your source:
Management (not proprietor)
Generally/usually (not always)
Expect (not receive)
1 digger_ex_pat 2013-02-08
and hotel management cannot give the police permission to search your room. The police must go through the usual process, which usually means getting a warrant before they are allowed to search your room.
Really?
1 Your-Wrong 2013-02-08
1 ertaisi 2013-02-08
By that logic, a rental owner could do the same. IANAL, but I'm leaning towards a tenant's rights trumping the owner's in search cases.
1 funnymanisi 2013-02-08
Courts have even proven that university students have the same rights in their dorms as other home owners.
1 Your-Wrong 2013-02-08
Really? Most (All?) dorms prohibit firearms, for starters.
1 funnymanisi 2013-02-08
Depends on the school.
1 Your-Wrong 2013-02-08
I'm having trouble thinking of a single public school which allows firearms in their dorm, could you help me out?
1 funnymanisi 2013-02-08
I'm not sure about public schools, but I'm fairly certain A&M does.
1 Your-Wrong 2013-02-08
I'm sure there are plenty of private schools where you can, interestingly enough. But no public one's, the opposite of expectation.
0 ertaisi 2013-02-08
I don't remember details, but there was a radio story about one single dorm on a campus that allowed guns recently.
1 funnymanisi 2013-02-08
I'm not sure about public schools, but I'm fairly certain A&M does.
0 ertaisi 2013-02-08
I don't remember details, but there was a radio story about one single dorm on a campus that allowed guns recently.