r/conspiracy: Revolution.

Revolution.

10 2013-02-17 by thedeadspace

Looking at the current events ongoing in America, I feel the time is ripe for a radical change. Our government is so separated that its almost impossible to get anything passed in the process. It seems to me, that the purpose of the constitution is to prevent anything like this, when the government is no longer helping america. Sure, they hand out welfare and social security to those who need it, but these systems are clearly faulty. Im just wondering, if anyone feels the same as i do. That the government isnt helping anymore and we need a new system. The ends justify the means.

28 comments

12 [deleted] 2013-02-17

Yes I do. It is the sole duty of the people of America to stand up and take control of the way of life we all want to live. I feel as an individual I am so disconnected in the decision making of this country, as all I'm doing is watching these idiots on CNN bicker over the most simplest of controversies. All the problems we face today are quite simple. They all come down to whats right and whats wrong and as a society, a HUMAN RACE, we must stand up and correct these iterated mistakes.

6 Dangst 2013-02-17

All it takes is a belief in your own power and an understanding of how to approach this. Do not draw first blood. Pass laws in your community that PROHIBIT THE ENFORCEMENT OF ILLEGAL FEDERAL AND STATE LAWS

This forces this issue. The government lost serious face against an alleged killer ex-cop. Imagine if they attacked a community of innocent people because they drank raw milk.

2 10yrs_to_the_day 2013-02-17

I feel as an individual I am so disconnected in the decision making of this country, as all I'm doing is watching....

You're right. We need a way to be directly involved in the decision making. There have already been efforts to improve it, using those White House petitions and similar programs, but we need pervasive transparency and citizen involvement. There is a movement to make our democracy more direct and effective using the internet. Here are a few links:

Quezi

Hacking Democracy (Not the documentary)

Diary of a Crisis Mapper

6 Superconducter 2013-02-17

Unfortunately the police state is still functioning quite well even as the rest of the government is in full collapse.

Your own military and police apparatus are set to mow you down for opposing tyranny.

Seriously, the only workable solution is the peaceful opposition of greed. Therein lies the road to changing the system.

Make them explain why their greed is good. It's the soft kill that will work as soon a s there is a tipping point in public realization. Help bring that tipping point. At this point it is our only possible move.

For all of history rich men have tried to come up with a moral excuse for greed. I assure you there isn't one.

Lets get just a few of them spluttering their attempts to explain themselves and you'll see their power source, sheer greed, will dissipate and their control will be replaced by more reasonable men. They can fight you easily with endless numbers of mercenaries but they can't battle an idea who's time has come.

Greed is inexcusable as a source of power, but they erroneously believe it is and will quickly tell you (and the public) so.

Appearances are everything to the power of tyrants.

They may have the power to kill vast numbers but their logic is illogical, flawed and will be lost as soon as they attempt to explain themselves The Rothschild's owe at least a couple of interviews to the world for example.

5 igobyalexis 2013-02-17

The only real revolution is a revolution of the mind/ideas.

1 zau64 2013-02-17

I hope it will be a peaceful one. I honestly think it could be if more people were to "wake up."
Regardless, if it happens too soon then everything will just end up worse.

4 cheekyninja850 2013-02-17

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=35Fm03LhWvU&list=UUEHsSWvrGVSIA63OV3J6vhA&index=3

Let's get on the same page first

2 zau64 2013-02-17

Les Miserables is a good example of a revolution happening before it was ready. Yes I know it is a musical, but that revolution did happen. The book and play just added some people and their stories to the mix.

4 thereisnosuchthing 2013-02-17

Who the fuck do you think is going to take over? We'd just end up worse off than we are now.

To be honest with you, I think I would like to take the guns away from the redneck, right-wing, tough-guy idiots who have them, too.

From now on, after this, you must have a college degree in liberal arts to own any serious type of weaponry, and everyone seeking a position of power must agree to constant filming under penalty of assisted suicide for violation of said law.

Integrity. What makes America-nu great.

2 readytoserve 2013-02-17

Lol college degrees, fuck you and your fucking arrogance. Most of my family has never gone to college and their some of the most common sense filled and hardworking people I have ever met. Much more then can be said then those so called "college educated" pricks with their nose up their ass who think they run shit because they have a piece of paper. The fucking arrogance I am starting to notice in this world is amazing, you all claim to fucking be privy to some great knowledge or like you are the center of the god damn universe, guess what your just blood and bones like all the other humans on this planet so stop pretending your more.

1 thereisnosuchthing 2013-02-17

common sense filled and hardworking people

I'd like to avoid "common sense filled hardworking people" having guns, because the majority of people I know or who I've ever known who would a. describe themselves this way, b. endorse this description of themselves, c. describe others in a good way using these words - are the kind of people who also think it's good to beat and bully their kids, be functional alcoholics, who have very little understanding for what's actually going on in their own lives, let alone the world, and are too fucking thick and dandy to be allowed guns by us.

We DO have "some great knowledge" compared to them and we ARE at the center of the 'god damned universe'. It's far away from farm-town USA, and we all kind of just humor them because we know it would be in such bad taste to do anything but.

Because we know they can't help it, and we're better than them. So we give them what they should give to others, love and understanding, for the most part. The rest is secret disgust, but we're too nice to say anything.

The majority of "common sense hard working people" I've ever known have been people who deserved me to beat the shit out of them at one time or another just for being so dumb, but I would never do that, because I would never hurt people who don't know as much as me(or, retards).

-1 disoriented 2013-02-17

They're.

You proved your point quite ironically.

2 Lord_NShYH 2013-02-17

Who the fuck do you think is going to take over?

Exactly. Just ask the Bolsheviks how well things ran after their revolution.

From now on, after this, you must have a college degree in liberal arts to own any serious type of weaponry ...

I don't think you have thought this through, or, perhaps you have, and you are a tyrant in a poor disguise.

3 no1113 2013-02-17

The government definitely isn't helping and we DEFINITELY need a new system.

RELEVANT

2 funkarama 2013-02-17

The only way to have a revolution would be for the police and the military to wake up, and they are totally brainwashed. They are paid thugs and they are paid to enforce not think. They are brainwashed almost from birth, so it is almost impossible to penetrate to their brains and have any effect. But wait, we still may have another civil war.....

2 onelovedg 2013-02-17

We don't need to pass more laws. Learn and enforce the bill of rights via a Title 42 sec. 1983 civil lawsuit for rights violations. Remind the police of their place- working for the people.

1 Bikertomz 2013-02-17

It's not only about US. If the people in power get their plan in order, there will not be US government soon anymore. There will World Goverment suppressing and controlling us all. But if we stand against then as one human population, they will fail. Search for more information and share it to all others. Spread love and happiness to everyone. Even to those in power. They've made terrible desicions, but it's not too late to make corrections. Peace.

1 Crangrapejoose 2013-02-17

The problem is that many people aren't willing to go through the hardship of breaking a system down to rebuild a new one. They are stuck on the TV and junk food. A revolution would mean doing away with many aspects of daily life for a few years in order to have a new system going. I hope people will rise when the opportune moment is upon us.

1 Nerd_Destroyer 2013-02-17

Stop waiting for the collapse to happen and do something about it. You're not going to win against the US military in guerrilla warfare, and you're not going to change anything via protest. These are strategies that have been tried before, failed, and TPTB absorbed these techniques only to grow stronger. Agent provocateurs and the FBI funding terrorists are the norm now. Soon we're not even going to have guns to fight back with. These techniques are not going to work. Wake the fuck up.

This is a series of legal, safe steps anyone can follow to put the decision making power back in the hands of the people. Go on, try to find a problem with this plan, other than your own fear and laziness.

Will people always agree on what is right? No. But decentralizing leadership to every citizen sure would be better than consolidating power among the 1%. We have the ability to do this by the fucking next election period. Once I get a working DDD program up and running, I'm going to try to get elected to the house of representatives in my home district under this platform. It's going to work. You can either be part of the real revolution or chill out while I do all the work, but I sure could use your help.

1 NotAtLunch 2013-02-17

I think that a major point of the constitution is to create gridlock. If the constitution were being applied properly - like with controlling money - that might even be better than the alternative but the gridlock aspects of it are being abused by those who are maintaining those (winning people over with maintaining those parts of it) but aren't bothering with the rest of it.

1 thedeadspace 2013-02-17

Im glad i got the message of this across. We the people run this country in the end, even if we did rise up and start a revolution against the police/military state, those people serving are brothers, sisters, fathers, and mothers, of ordinary every day citizens. I dont feel they would try and stop us, minus a few power hungry whelps. It states in the constitution, that if the people want the federal government to step down, we have the right to acheive this goal however we see fit. And to those saying take away our guns and our rights to have them, wee would still be a british mercantile colony if we didnt have our guns in the first place. Granted, times have changed, but the right principles live on.

0 noseriouslygetbent 2013-02-17

How do you intend to do this?

1 Lord_NShYH 2013-02-17

OP doesn't intend to do anything but act as an agitator.

0 bumblingmumbling 2013-02-17

Wealthy Jewish Zionists already control The Fed, Wall Street, Hollywood, and especially Major New Networks. Since 9/11 they have put their Homeland Security Police Surveillance State in place. Soon they will have NSA Spy Facility built and both Spy and Predator Drones overhead.

Like the Bankster Warburg said, "The Zionists will have their NWO either by consent or force."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Warburg

“We will have a world government whether you like it or not. The only question is whether that government will be achieved by conquest or consent.” (February 17, 1950, as he testified before the US Senate).

His father Paul Warburg was one of the founders of the Federal Reserve.

0 Rhino6989 2013-02-17

How about a we all form a department of common sense because left or right you are both wrong in your own extremes

-1 cccpcharm 2013-02-17

wow did, they write that for you? I think you need to go back and get a better script...start it off with something like "woodchuck to grey squirrel" and then after that, ask if "they" would like to go to the bank with a "package" you know, something discreet

-4 yrugay 2013-02-17

http://imgur.com/mLYVw

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=VkYfSXy7XGo

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZLpfPkaas_Q&feature=youtu.be

https://fellowshipofminds.wordpress.com/2012/09/20/heavily-armored-dhs-vehicles-seen-on-road/

http://hongpong.com/archives/2012/04/12/meet-new-boss-town-ice-spawns-hsi-homeland-security-investigations-great-justice

prepare for the police state

http://www.reddit.com/r/politics/comments/qatc0/the_house_passed_bill_hr_347_a_bill_that_makes_it/

http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/276569-obama-signs-bill-extending-lifetime-secret-service-protection-for-former-presidents

http://www.reddit.com/r/politics/comments/rpp6g/in_a_54_decision_supreme_court_rules_that_people/

http://losangeles.cbslocal.com/2012/01/25/lapd-and-special-forces-conduct-military-maneuvers-in-the-skies-above-downtown-la/

http://www.miamiherald.com/2013/01/21/3193887_dont-mind-the-helicopters-its.html#dsq-form-area