(BTW i love the fact that most think here aliens (the greys) are quiet possible to exist but reptilian looking aliens are something what is not even to consider.)
apparently its because we cant see a certain range of the visible spectrum of light. if there is fact behind it...idk look for yourself. now if you want to get creeped the fuck out check out the jersey islands
what i THINK he means is that reptilians are more intellectually developed, to be able to see in this range of frequencies, therefore our human nature doesnt allow it. as for it being factual.... im sure there is science is here somewhere.
It's funny that you mention being creeped out by the Jersey Islands stuff. That whole cluster of topics is one of the few things that I've had to just walk away from researching due to being too creeped out.
I KNOE!, i had to stop when i came to the realization that we go after priest for he same stuff that jimmy saville got away with....and he even rubs it in our face. THEN he tells you he's best friends with royals.... and when the american media put it on the air...nobody gave a flying fuck. understand that this PROVES that something is up long the lines of whats david icke is talking about.
Personally, no. However, I love to read, watch and hear all about it, and in the end, anything is possible. Its a pretty huge claim to make without anything but shaky anecdotal evidence.
Agreed . It's fun stuff and If you take every bit of information with a grain of salt and keep an open mind, your intelligence and overall knowledge of what could be possible grows.
This. I have listened to all of his Wembley lecture (like 8 hours), and can say that it takes 8 hours just to get a grasp of his 'theory' with very little time to present the evidence. I purchased Remember Who You Are and am about 100 pages in but still have not go to too much 'evidence'. Not to say it's not there; I don't knwo if it is or not. I am open to the idea that he may be right, although I have not seen the evidence yet (because I find the more easily provable conspiracies such as 9/11, and the fact that our government is totally fucking us in the ass, to be far more important to spend time on; I will get to Icke when I get to Icke).
Honestly for those of us who have spent years studying conspiracy or even those who make it a point to educate themselves in philosophy,history,science, etc, it becomes fairly clear that first of all we can't be absolutely certain of anything. Just because something has no evidence (if that is the case), doesn't mean it's certainly wrong, and just because something has overwhelming evidence does not mean it's certainly right. Icke has been right about lot in the past (pedophelia rings, banking, aspects of quantum physics, etc), and he acts much more loving, logical, humble, and rational than Alex Jones leading me to believe that one should at least read a book or two before they come to even a relatively definitive conclusion on his work.
Reptilian entities are often encountered while in an altered state of consciousness. If you read up on DMT/Ayahuasca experiences there is a common occurrence of reptilian humanoid encounters.
This would make sense to me... really it would, but doesn't Icke claim that he is not being metaphorical? that he believes they are actual reptiles disguised as humans?
(BTW i love the fact that most think here aliens (the greys) are quiet possible to exist but reptilian looking aliens are something what is not even to consider.)
It could be he's got a sense of humor, and expects people with any sense to sort it out properly, and those people with no humor or intelligence can take it as one of those mysteries that's beyond them, just as Catholics are expected to believe in the Eucharist containing God that they can eat.
It is possible enough that it should be considered as possibility
Dinosaurs are members of the class Reptilia. And they did develop earlier than mammals. There is a difference in brain development between this two species.
They did exist before mammals. And they do exist now
It is probable that on some other planet reptile spices evolved in such a way that they could develop technology and some kind of civilization.
Civilization and technology have tendency to grow and evolve.
Until we have live specimen we will not know for sure.
You are making a huge assumption that life elsewhere would have the same chemical and biological structure as life on earth. And that it would evolve in a similar progression.
At the same time, we don't really have enough absolute data for or against commonalities in solar system and life evolution. It's difficult data to collect and analyze, and we've only been able to see planets that are relatively very close to our own. There are enough stars out there that it is inevitable that Earth-like situations arise, and of course there will be differences, that's what would lead to such creatures being dominant rather than humans.
And I absolutely agree with almost everything you just. That's why I find it difficult to take our single example of life and suggest it will arise almost exactly the same elsewhere.
Oh totally, in the grand scheme there are likely 99.999% other bizarre life we don't know anything about. Look at our own planet's diversity in organisms alone, especially the ocean. But there could be 0.001% which maybe let's hypothetically call a dozen other planets out there where things are pretty damn similar. That's also not unlikely in my opinion. There could be another race of pseudo-humans out there in the distances, discussing this same concept on Rettid
Maybe it's even crazier. Maybe a higher evolved group of dinosaurs evolved to a higher or lower plane of existence. They never really left earth. They just entered a different dimension. The dinosaur fossils we find are a lower evolved species, like apes are to humans.
I am creating a theory on probability that was observed in nature.
But, actually I was more thinking that reptiles would change course of their evolution and start to behave in such a way to not over grow the planet. Dinosaurs over grow their natural habitat. There were just too many of them for resources they had.
I dont think its a matter of "believing in" them. one should be open to anything, while suspending judgement until one has adequate experience and information to decide. I have never seen on. However, I realize that the universe is a much larger place than I can imagine and much more goes on here than my frame of reference allows me to conceive.
Belief is too binary for these kinds of topics (for most people). A better question would be something like "what % would you apply to the probability this exists", imo.
However, if there's someone here that 100% believes in reptillians, then I guess it'd be interesting to find out why.
Maybe 3% in my case... if I had to use your model. Yet, If proof was presented tomorrow, I would not be surprised. Our world is full of preposterous crap... there are many things that have come to pass that I would not have believed.
Though it's hard for me to swallow, yeah I believe for the most part. It's not just Icke who talks about reptillians, other researchers have come to the similar conclusions, at least that they exist and have been a part of human history. These would be the Anunnaki of the Sumerian Tablets, our supposed progenitors. I have also heard several first and second person accounts from different sources with some pretty crazy stories. And I do not, like Icke, believe them all to be malevolent, simply another race with decent and rotten individuals same as us. I do not believe 100%, as others have said a full case is not there for them. I recommend everyone do their own digging on this and draw their own conclusions. But I have researched enough to know there are extra-terrestrials operating here on planet, and to have one of those races be of reptillian origin is not so big a jump to take anymore...
Just because something is in the Bible doesn't mean it doesn't have an ounce of truth. Religious texts are an easy manipulation tool for the ruling class. (King James version? uh...) Who knows how much of it is true? However, finding connections between diverse sources on a global scale from a time where people across the globe couldn't possibly be in contact... Very interesting to say the least.
I would definitely say it's possible. Honestly, we really have no idea what's going on. It's very possible that some type of different intelligent species exists among us. I believe it is ignorant to deny that they exist. Always keep an open mind, do research, and make up your own mind based on the best available evidence. Here's some more information on reptilians http://whale.to/b/reptilian_h.html
I remember being amused when reading about the reptilian brain and how it controls basic instinctual reactions like greed and aggression. Makes sense that Ike would be referring to the elite as reptilians.
Icke is one of the biggest shills out there. I've read everything he's written, and if anyone was a proponent of the 'mix falsity with a sprinkling of truth to make it easier to swallow everything', it's David Icke.
Do your research on him (rather than reptilians) and you'll find out for yourself.
Edit: Punctuation
Edit: Seeing this comment downvoted makes me have even less faith in this subreddit. If you guys don't know that Icke is a shill, you probably need to be told that Alex Jones is one too, and you can downvote me even more - because you're not interested in the truth - you're interested in being manipulated by the machinery of fear.
Do you believe Reptiles are in charge of everything? You are an idiot.
Do you believe something with no basis in fact other than some shoddy photo-shopping? The your stupid. Do you think it is possible? Anything is possible. With a confidence of 100 percent, something is true, and zero percent it is false. The likelihood of alien or reptile life existing on this planet in touch with higher echelons of world powers. Somewhere between more than zero and less than 100 percent.
They get to really (pretend-)believe in themselves as little AWW wabbits. If you then expand that to all other AWW wabbits you get the general idea of the conditioning involved.
I don't buy it, academic rigor avoids ambiguity for a reason. Focusing an entire theory around a metaphor is something that shouldn't be taken seriously.
Especially when David makes it clear in his book that he means that they are literally reptilian aliens. He has anecdotes about the queen mother turning into a carnivorous parasauralophus and ted Heath turning into bowser.
I don't seen any of his evidence as proof but there are recurring themes in all cultures of dragons being powerful godlike oppressors or teachers (depending on culture). This catches my interest.
You are making a huge assumption that life elsewhere would have the same chemical and biological structure as life on earth. And that it would evolve in a similar progression.
At the same time, we don't really have enough absolute data for or against commonalities in solar system and life evolution. It's difficult data to collect and analyze, and we've only been able to see planets that are relatively very close to our own. There are enough stars out there that it is inevitable that Earth-like situations arise, and of course there will be differences, that's what would lead to such creatures being dominant rather than humans.
Maybe it's even crazier. Maybe a higher evolved group of dinosaurs evolved to a higher or lower plane of existence. They never really left earth. They just entered a different dimension. The dinosaur fossils we find are a lower evolved species, like apes are to humans.
I am creating a theory on probability that was observed in nature.
But, actually I was more thinking that reptiles would change course of their evolution and start to behave in such a way to not over grow the planet. Dinosaurs over grow their natural habitat. There were just too many of them for resources they had.
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29 iam_sancho2 2013-03-02
As a metaphor, yes: cold-blooded, parasitic in nature, emotionally different from the rest of us.
Literally? Don't be silly.
6 KonDon 2013-03-02
I've also heard that the adl went after icke because they thought reptiles were a metaphor for jews.
9 iam_sancho2 2013-03-02
Oy vey!
7 Weedtastic 2013-03-02
no this is false.
he means literally aliens who look like reptiles.
(BTW i love the fact that most think here aliens (the greys) are quiet possible to exist but reptilian looking aliens are something what is not even to consider.)
5 [deleted] 2013-03-02
apparently its because we cant see a certain range of the visible spectrum of light. if there is fact behind it...idk look for yourself. now if you want to get creeped the fuck out check out the jersey islands
2 iam_sancho2 2013-03-02
So the Reptilian's bodies are made of molecules that let all frequencies of EM radiation in the visible spectrum pass through?
I do not believe David Icke has passed even high school physics.
1 [deleted] 2013-03-02
what i THINK he means is that reptilians are more intellectually developed, to be able to see in this range of frequencies, therefore our human nature doesnt allow it. as for it being factual.... im sure there is science is here somewhere.
2 [deleted] 2013-03-02
It's funny that you mention being creeped out by the Jersey Islands stuff. That whole cluster of topics is one of the few things that I've had to just walk away from researching due to being too creeped out.
3 [deleted] 2013-03-02
I KNOE!, i had to stop when i came to the realization that we go after priest for he same stuff that jimmy saville got away with....and he even rubs it in our face. THEN he tells you he's best friends with royals.... and when the american media put it on the air...nobody gave a flying fuck. understand that this PROVES that something is up long the lines of whats david icke is talking about.
2 lens0029 2013-03-02
Can you post a link to something I could read/watch to learn more about this?
1 [deleted] 2013-03-02
the lion no longer sleeps, and just google jersey island
2 [deleted] 2013-03-02
..as it was in the days of Noah
1 [deleted] 2013-03-02
Would you mind elaborating on this? You've piqued my curiosity.
24 verysuper 2013-03-02
Personally, no. However, I love to read, watch and hear all about it, and in the end, anything is possible. Its a pretty huge claim to make without anything but shaky anecdotal evidence.
12 JemCarey 2013-03-02
Agreed . It's fun stuff and If you take every bit of information with a grain of salt and keep an open mind, your intelligence and overall knowledge of what could be possible grows.
6 mattgrimes 2013-03-02
This. I have listened to all of his Wembley lecture (like 8 hours), and can say that it takes 8 hours just to get a grasp of his 'theory' with very little time to present the evidence. I purchased Remember Who You Are and am about 100 pages in but still have not go to too much 'evidence'. Not to say it's not there; I don't knwo if it is or not. I am open to the idea that he may be right, although I have not seen the evidence yet (because I find the more easily provable conspiracies such as 9/11, and the fact that our government is totally fucking us in the ass, to be far more important to spend time on; I will get to Icke when I get to Icke).
Honestly for those of us who have spent years studying conspiracy or even those who make it a point to educate themselves in philosophy,history,science, etc, it becomes fairly clear that first of all we can't be absolutely certain of anything. Just because something has no evidence (if that is the case), doesn't mean it's certainly wrong, and just because something has overwhelming evidence does not mean it's certainly right. Icke has been right about lot in the past (pedophelia rings, banking, aspects of quantum physics, etc), and he acts much more loving, logical, humble, and rational than Alex Jones leading me to believe that one should at least read a book or two before they come to even a relatively definitive conclusion on his work.
3 ssshoshi 2013-03-02
Reptilian entities are often encountered while in an altered state of consciousness. If you read up on DMT/Ayahuasca experiences there is a common occurrence of reptilian humanoid encounters.
-1 theactualanswer2 2013-03-02
That's because newbie psychonauts are stupid and can't pick apart reality from their imagination.
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3 nxne 2013-03-02
Great post, very well thought out. Archons are very interesting, I need to do more research on this subject
2 [deleted] 2013-03-02
More likely explanation is that certain percentage of people are psychopaths. They exist in all tiers of society.
You only happen to notice the ones famous ones because .. well they're famous. Politicians, CEOs, etc.. are in the news.
7 EndTyranny 2013-03-02
They're a metaphor for the mindset of the elite.
5 VanillaPudding 2013-03-02
This would make sense to me... really it would, but doesn't Icke claim that he is not being metaphorical? that he believes they are actual reptiles disguised as humans?
1 Weedtastic 2013-03-02
he means literally aliens who look like reptiles.
(BTW i love the fact that most think here aliens (the greys) are quiet possible to exist but reptilian looking aliens are something what is not even to consider.)
and yes i actual listend to his whole lectures.
0 EndTyranny 2013-03-02
It could be he's got a sense of humor, and expects people with any sense to sort it out properly, and those people with no humor or intelligence can take it as one of those mysteries that's beyond them, just as Catholics are expected to believe in the Eucharist containing God that they can eat.
0 rndaxs 2013-03-02
Perfect.
0 sdehtbsbdt2 2013-03-02
That's what I've come to as a conclusion as well.
6 goz11 2013-03-02
Do I believe ?
No.
Is it probable ?
It is possible enough that it should be considered as possibility
Dinosaurs are members of the class Reptilia. And they did develop earlier than mammals. There is a difference in brain development between this two species.
They did exist before mammals. And they do exist now
It is probable that on some other planet reptile spices evolved in such a way that they could develop technology and some kind of civilization.
Civilization and technology have tendency to grow and evolve.
Until we have live specimen we will not know for sure.
8 bojang1es 2013-03-02
You are making a huge assumption that life elsewhere would have the same chemical and biological structure as life on earth. And that it would evolve in a similar progression.
3 yu-gi-oh_master 2013-03-02
At the same time, we don't really have enough absolute data for or against commonalities in solar system and life evolution. It's difficult data to collect and analyze, and we've only been able to see planets that are relatively very close to our own. There are enough stars out there that it is inevitable that Earth-like situations arise, and of course there will be differences, that's what would lead to such creatures being dominant rather than humans.
2 bojang1es 2013-03-02
And I absolutely agree with almost everything you just. That's why I find it difficult to take our single example of life and suggest it will arise almost exactly the same elsewhere.
1 yu-gi-oh_master 2013-03-02
Oh totally, in the grand scheme there are likely 99.999% other bizarre life we don't know anything about. Look at our own planet's diversity in organisms alone, especially the ocean. But there could be 0.001% which maybe let's hypothetically call a dozen other planets out there where things are pretty damn similar. That's also not unlikely in my opinion. There could be another race of pseudo-humans out there in the distances, discussing this same concept on Rettid
2 crowbar181 2013-03-02
Maybe it's even crazier. Maybe a higher evolved group of dinosaurs evolved to a higher or lower plane of existence. They never really left earth. They just entered a different dimension. The dinosaur fossils we find are a lower evolved species, like apes are to humans.
1 goz11 2013-03-02
you are correct.
I am creating a theory on probability that was observed in nature.
But, actually I was more thinking that reptiles would change course of their evolution and start to behave in such a way to not over grow the planet. Dinosaurs over grow their natural habitat. There were just too many of them for resources they had.
Something similar happened here
http://www.stuartmcmillen.com/comics_en/st-matthew-island/
6 rafikievergreen 2013-03-02
I dont think its a matter of "believing in" them. one should be open to anything, while suspending judgement until one has adequate experience and information to decide. I have never seen on. However, I realize that the universe is a much larger place than I can imagine and much more goes on here than my frame of reference allows me to conceive.
4 21007 2013-03-02
IF reptilians exist, and have the advanced technology that their advanced race warrants, they are doing a poor job of utilizing it
4 [deleted] 2013-03-02
Belief is too binary for these kinds of topics (for most people). A better question would be something like "what % would you apply to the probability this exists", imo.
However, if there's someone here that 100% believes in reptillians, then I guess it'd be interesting to find out why.
3 VanillaPudding 2013-03-02
Maybe 3% in my case... if I had to use your model. Yet, If proof was presented tomorrow, I would not be surprised. Our world is full of preposterous crap... there are many things that have come to pass that I would not have believed.
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4 Pin34pple 2013-03-02
or can they???
3 dominus_nox 2013-03-02
Though it's hard for me to swallow, yeah I believe for the most part. It's not just Icke who talks about reptillians, other researchers have come to the similar conclusions, at least that they exist and have been a part of human history. These would be the Anunnaki of the Sumerian Tablets, our supposed progenitors. I have also heard several first and second person accounts from different sources with some pretty crazy stories. And I do not, like Icke, believe them all to be malevolent, simply another race with decent and rotten individuals same as us. I do not believe 100%, as others have said a full case is not there for them. I recommend everyone do their own digging on this and draw their own conclusions. But I have researched enough to know there are extra-terrestrials operating here on planet, and to have one of those races be of reptillian origin is not so big a jump to take anymore...
3 [deleted] 2013-03-02
Yes. Summerians and Annunaki's are to similar to the Bible...
3 yu-gi-oh_master 2013-03-02
Just because something is in the Bible doesn't mean it doesn't have an ounce of truth. Religious texts are an easy manipulation tool for the ruling class. (King James version? uh...) Who knows how much of it is true? However, finding connections between diverse sources on a global scale from a time where people across the globe couldn't possibly be in contact... Very interesting to say the least.
3 Troll_Mane 2013-03-02
Metaphor for sociopaths IMO.
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1 Troll_Mane 2013-03-02
Certainly not.
0 Troll_Mane 2013-03-02
Also, your spelling and awkward past tense usage in your question makes it a bit confusing for me.
Makes me wonder if you skipped a few lectures in elementary school ;)
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1 Troll_Mane 2013-03-02
Ok sorry to give you such a hard time then. Peace :)
3 crowbar181 2013-03-02
Are Icke's reptiles the same aliens that met Eisenhower according to Bill Cooper?
3 music_is_medicine 2013-03-02
Not saying I believe it. But when I was really into seeking out information regarding extra-terrestrial beings, I came across this: http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/ciencia/matrix_brainwashing/alien.htm It's interesting to say the least..
2 nxne 2013-03-02
I would definitely say it's possible. Honestly, we really have no idea what's going on. It's very possible that some type of different intelligent species exists among us. I believe it is ignorant to deny that they exist. Always keep an open mind, do research, and make up your own mind based on the best available evidence. Here's some more information on reptilians http://whale.to/b/reptilian_h.html
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2 KrakNup 2013-03-02
Reptilians, aliens, all the same thing: demonic entities. These people are possessed and their thinking is corrupted.
1 mvlazysusan 2013-03-02
See:
http://www.catholicnewsagency.com/news/believing_in_aliens_not_opposed_to_christianity_vaticans_top_astronomer_says/
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In an interview entitled "Aliens Are My Brother", granted to L'Osservatore Romano, the Vatican newspaper, Father José Gabriel Funes, director of the Vatican Observatory, stated: "In my opinion this possibility (of life on other planets) exists"; "intelligent beings, created by God may exist in outer space" and "some aliens could even be free from original sin" concluding "there could be (other beings) who remained in full friendship with their creator".
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Original_sin
2 [deleted] 2013-03-02
From what I read, they are not supposed to be real flesh-and-blood creatures, rather they are a metaphor for the elite, the top 1% of the global elite
1 blakgodaftermath 2013-03-02
I remember being amused when reading about the reptilian brain and how it controls basic instinctual reactions like greed and aggression. Makes sense that Ike would be referring to the elite as reptilians.
1 IamTheKwisatzHaderac 2013-03-02
Icke is one of the biggest shills out there. I've read everything he's written, and if anyone was a proponent of the 'mix falsity with a sprinkling of truth to make it easier to swallow everything', it's David Icke.
Do your research on him (rather than reptilians) and you'll find out for yourself.
Edit: Punctuation
Edit: Seeing this comment downvoted makes me have even less faith in this subreddit. If you guys don't know that Icke is a shill, you probably need to be told that Alex Jones is one too, and you can downvote me even more - because you're not interested in the truth - you're interested in being manipulated by the machinery of fear.
1 [deleted] 2013-03-02
I have a few 'trippy' friends who have seen their face turn reptilian in a mirror.
I hear a lot about our shape-shifting reptilian overlords.
0 suncafe 2013-03-02
Do you believe Reptiles are in charge of everything? You are an idiot. Do you believe something with no basis in fact other than some shoddy photo-shopping? The your stupid. Do you think it is possible? Anything is possible. With a confidence of 100 percent, something is true, and zero percent it is false. The likelihood of alien or reptile life existing on this planet in touch with higher echelons of world powers. Somewhere between more than zero and less than 100 percent.
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-2 NotAtLunch 2013-03-02
They get to really (pretend-)believe in themselves as little AWW wabbits. If you then expand that to all other AWW wabbits you get the general idea of the conditioning involved.
-4 bumblingmumbling 2013-03-02
It is a metaphor for the Zionist banksters.
1 bojang1es 2013-03-02
I don't buy it, academic rigor avoids ambiguity for a reason. Focusing an entire theory around a metaphor is something that shouldn't be taken seriously.
7 Fortheloveoflife 2013-03-02
Especially when David makes it clear in his book that he means that they are literally reptilian aliens. He has anecdotes about the queen mother turning into a carnivorous parasauralophus and ted Heath turning into bowser. I don't seen any of his evidence as proof but there are recurring themes in all cultures of dragons being powerful godlike oppressors or teachers (depending on culture). This catches my interest.
8 bojang1es 2013-03-02
You are making a huge assumption that life elsewhere would have the same chemical and biological structure as life on earth. And that it would evolve in a similar progression.
3 yu-gi-oh_master 2013-03-02
At the same time, we don't really have enough absolute data for or against commonalities in solar system and life evolution. It's difficult data to collect and analyze, and we've only been able to see planets that are relatively very close to our own. There are enough stars out there that it is inevitable that Earth-like situations arise, and of course there will be differences, that's what would lead to such creatures being dominant rather than humans.
2 crowbar181 2013-03-02
Maybe it's even crazier. Maybe a higher evolved group of dinosaurs evolved to a higher or lower plane of existence. They never really left earth. They just entered a different dimension. The dinosaur fossils we find are a lower evolved species, like apes are to humans.
1 goz11 2013-03-02
you are correct.
I am creating a theory on probability that was observed in nature.
But, actually I was more thinking that reptiles would change course of their evolution and start to behave in such a way to not over grow the planet. Dinosaurs over grow their natural habitat. There were just too many of them for resources they had.
Something similar happened here
http://www.stuartmcmillen.com/comics_en/st-matthew-island/