Just saw a thread in r politics about this in the new queue...That said, this is not a very detailed post but damn if it's not creepy enough to attract attention.

*This was the response of one member {Ryan} of the forum in question, according to one poster from the GLP thread

It seems to have been answered on that forum.... if true, then it is bs, Here is [the discussion of two users]:

look in the url here above: message2167331

Every forum uses IDs in chronological order for every post... If you go to threads from years ago, the id >>number will be a lot smaller... for example message1167331 was from 2010.

They explain that to prove to someone that threads timestamps can be manipulated, they adjusted it for that >>post but the id of the thread doesn't correlate with other id's from 2010.

the result is a thread that was created recently had timestamps adjusted to make it look like 2010, but the id >>number of the thread shows it is really from recent:

drseussofporn: Yeah . . . there was some timestamp manipulation here. If you look at the thread, the ID is 3417. Around that >>time, all other thread IDs were in the low to mid 1000's. Nice try though.

Ryan: Yeah, it was done to prove to a Sandy Hook truther here on our forum that not everything "timestamped" on >>the internet is accurate. Things can be manipulated. But I guess that was lost on some people... "

Update 1: Ok, here's something else interesting. If you look at the waybackmachine record for the forum in question (http://web.archive.org/web/20101225103941/http://www.unforumzed.com/forum.php) from December 22 2010 and then take a look at the subforum of the main "General Discussion" section where the post was made, which was supposedly called "conspiracy corner", you will see that it does not exist on the waybackmachine. That specific subforum could have required registration to view, but seeing as their warez forums were even viewable by the googleindexing bot I doubt they had the conspiracy corner hidden. (Mini update: turns out the thread was originally in the "off-topic" section and was moved to conspiracy at a later time.)

Update 2: When showing search result does google draw timestamp data from the post as exists or does it generate within google from when the thread was first indexed? (https://www.google.com/#hl=en&output=search&sclient=psy-ab&q=http://www.unforumzed.com/showthread.php?3417-Obama-use-school-shooting-to-disarm-America&oq=http://www.unforumzed.com/showthread.php?3417-Obama-use-school-shooting-to-disarm-America&gs_l=hp.3...1303.1303.0.1876.1.1.0.0.0.0.88.88.1.1.0.les;..0.0...1c.1.5.psy-ab.AiuRlQ8Q67E&pbx=1&fp=1&biw=1024&bih=743&bav=on.2,or.r_qf.&cad=b) Google time stamped the thread in 2010, no question.

Update 3: Quote from the OP of the prediction which seems to confirm that the post did originate in 2010 and it was locked as of January 15th of this year;

01-15-2013, 08:01 PM #80 kathaksung Banned

Join Date Aug 2010 Posts 28

I have try to inform unforumzed.com about Sandy Hook shooting in December 17, 2010 but my discussion was censored by unforumzed.com Administrator. I received a message from Churubella that my topic is lock down.-http://www.unforumzed.com/showthread.php?3436-Sandy-Hook-Truther-%28bowel%29-quot-Movement-quot/page6

Update 4:

The original Unformezed thread from 2010 does not appear to be active. It appears they locked it away around 1-15-13. However, the original poster, kathaksung, returned to the thread [just mentioned] and posted his old thread and complained he was being censored. Peeps then took that info and found the old thread in Google archives...

Update 5: This is a rabbit hole, I leave you with what I take to be a reasonable analysis.

It's either a hoax, a good one, or real and Ryan[the first, and only, person to claim the thread in question was a hoax] and a few shills jumped in to dismiss it, say they made it up, quickly banned kataksung.

It's not even a "hoax". The admins, who debate on the board, changed the time stamp to show a poster how easy it is to do.

And again, /r/conspiracy gets sucked in to a pile of nothing.

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Correct. So why is /r/conspiracy still posting it and discussing it as though this poster was some kind of magical "seeer" or involved in some conspiracy, when it has been debunked as nonsense and game-playing by admins looking to prove a point?

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Agreed, the suggestion that Sandy Hook was a "conspiracy" has been debunked hundreds of times.

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Umm, all over reddit? And everywhere else?

Some people are just dying for this to be a setup. Completely debunked.

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It is with a little bit of reading.

But it has 200 upvotes. It's like people just upvote without reading things...

Were all of the replies hoaxed as well? Not saying they weren't, but it's a valid question.

Have you ever modded a forum like this? It's ridiculously easy to change dates on things, and this thread of replies is only a dozen or so posts long before it was locked.

Ive personally never modded a forum's timestamps. But only admins could go in and change these times and dates. They would have the highest level access with database control and would need to alter each and every persons comments timestamp when they commited the comment. Thats changing every instance on every field that contains the timestamp data. All in all I think the entire timestamp manipulation thing (not just on GLP) is fishy.

would need to alter each and every persons comments timestamp when they commited the comment.

This is a single SQL command, it's pretty trivial.

There are plenty of difficult problems in software, changing timestamps is not one of them.

Lol @ "highest level access". It's not the NSA, its a meager internet forum. Any mod can do it.

Not saying it was NSA. Lol. Highest level access would mean admin privledges

And the admins say that's exactly what they did. Internet blah blah blah.

http://s21.postimage.org/fl4x0y9yf/1761507.png

?

Ok, and? Google uses forum reference dates to determine the dates on a discussion. Google is dependent on the dates set (and in this case, modified) by the admins.

The post on the forum is irrelevant even if the time stamp was not manipulated. What is relevant, is all the inconsistencies in pretty much every official report. 80% of man made disasters, in America, over the last 15 years seem to be BS.

What is relevant, is all the inconsistencies in pretty much every official report.

I'm not aware of any that show anything other than that this was a crazy young man acting alone.

80% of man made disasters, in America, over the last 15 years seem to be BS.

The fact that you are so unable to self-examine, that you don't see the lunacy of this statement, is frankly sad to me, as someone who wants more for humanity.

I get the finality of my statements being stupid. But seriously, there is a lot of BS in official reports. Our government created this climate of distrust.

What BS? What official reports?

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Yes... yes you can. /facepalm

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Here ya go, enjoy some Sandyhook shooting google search fun.

This timestamp bullshit has been debunked long ago.

According to Google, Aaron Swartz committed suicide in April 2012! http://imgur.com/jZQ1aim

I already responded to this elsewhere: Google is dependant on the timestamp of the forum to create those timestamps. In other words, the Google reference is edited when the forum timestamp is edited.

Ryan is a shill. Look at his posts throughout the rest of the thread; he's a spook mod there to disqualify any weak links 'ad hominem' by making broad statements and counting on incredulity.

• "12-22-2012, 06:41 PM Post #18 (http://www.unforumzed.com/showthread.php?3436-Sandy-Hook-Truther-(bowel)-quot-Movement-quot/page2) Ryan That's enough, Christianists.

Join Date Jun 2010 Posts 7,063 The YouTube comments on all these conspiracy videos have my blood boiling. "That medical examiner didn't shed one tear! And his name is Carver! CARVER! Get it? Like CARVING up BODIES?! See, it's all a hoax!" STFU."

• "01-16-2013, 12:17 AM Post #108 (http://www.unforumzed.com/showthread.php?3436-Sandy-Hook-Truther-(bowel)-quot-Movement-quot/page8) Ryan That's enough, Christianists.

Join Date Jun 2010 Posts 7,063 Originally Posted by Scarlet They'll want picture certificate, not a certification of a live picture. And the long form.

(his response): Exactly. That's the thing about conspiracy theorists -- it's never enough. Show them a crime scene photo and they'll want security camera footage. Show them a screen shot of the security camera footage and they'll want the actual video. Show them a clip of the footage and they'll scream that you didn't let them watch the full, unedited thing. Sometimes I think it's a gore porn fetish masquerading as concern. We went through this with Obama's birth certificate. It was never enough. People who believe in this shit trust no one, and so they will find foul play in everything that's presented to them."

Also, notice that MTC, the other poster who posted in the recent thread and also participated in the original, didn't show up in the thread AT ALL until Kathaksung does. Then suddenly 'she' appears to blow the loyal shill horn:

• "01-16-2013, 03:41 AM Post #116 (http://www.unforumzed.com/showthread.php?3436-Sandy-Hook-Truther-(bowel)-quot-Movement-quot/page8) MTC
  is apparently unskilled.

Join Date Jun 2010 Location Rio Rancho, NM Posts 1,530 Frangi - re: question 2

No amount of money offered would make me even consider giving up my child to anyone. If you're really believing this theory, think harder.

I hope/believe you're playing devil's advocate or at least just trying to be a pot stirrer. If not try this one on for size. If the government is behind all this and as evil as you think it is, why would they nicely ask parents to kindly give up their kids to implement restrictive gun laws that would make the American people as helpless as babies? Wouldn't it be more like, "We're taking your kids. They will be safe, but breathe a word of this to anyone and we will kill them." The parent's grief would be real. You now have roles for "crisis actors", etc. Easy as hell to make this stuff up, isn't it?

Here's some questions to mull for you. Assuming the above is true, was the shooter drugged? How exactly was he coerced into killing his mother? Is she not dead either? The teachers and other adults in the school, actually killed or whisked to an undisclosed location too? Were their families told the same essential thing the children's families were threatened with in my scenario? Were all those tiny coffins filled with rocks?

Frankly I think all the tiny heads that believe this stuff are filled with rocks, dryer lint, and dust bunnies. It's sure to be some government plot. Most likely it has to do with the coming invasion of aliens that will bring on a pandemic certain to cause the collapse of the economy, EF5 tornadoes nationwide, nuclear war, solar storms, asteroid hits, the New World Order, category 6 hurricanes, and disruption of the internet. You do have your bunker supplied and ready, right? Don't forget your guns."

These are all from the 'follow-up' link, you can see it here; page 6 is linked, where kathaksung comes back. From the bold link above, where Ryan plays off of Scarlet, suggests to me that Scarlet is a shill too. Sure enough, multiple thousand posts, same (wish I could embed links but these stupid parentheses mid-url... post110 http://www.unforumzed.com/showthread.php?3436-Sandy-Hook-Truther-(bowel)-quot-Movement-quot/page8) generic, ad-hominem shill behavior.

Fixed your link

I hope I didn't jump the gun, but you got your link syntax backward! Don't worry bro, I fixed it, have an upvote!

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And according to Google, Aaron Swartz committed suicide in April 2012! http://imgur.com/jZQ1aim

Google time stamped the article in April 2012, no question.

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Not saying its true or not, but a lot of forums will change the avatar in your old posts whenever you update it. So if I changed mine on one of those forums tomorrow, a post I made 2 years ago will reflect the new avatar.

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I'm not sure if you meant to reply to me or not, but either way, I'm not arguing for or against the validity of the claim.

The one with the avatar is active today, he probably updated his avatar image.

Something I came across. I would assume it is the same person due to the topics of what he is posting. https://twitter.com/kathaksung

Posted this thing about false flag on 12-17-10. Last post on Twitter 15 Dec 2010

As someone who writes for Examiner, don't take anything that's posted there seriously. Anyone who can write a junior high paper with some experience in a field can get a writing position on there.

From what I understand, it's more like a collection of independent bloggers than a regular newspaper.

http://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/1a8uas/we_were_warned/

I posted about it yesterday, some guy claimed to have debunked it and everybody believed him. I'm still doing my own research.

Also, don't post on GLP. http://tavistockisfaggish.blogspot.com/

Yep, never let other opinions sway your own until you are satisfied.

Never do, thanks for the advice friend.

Take care Sir.

Don't post on GLP? Why?

Read my link, that website is beyond fishy. I tried discussing it on their and I was perma'd without a warning.

You don't think they're in here posed as redditors?

I'm sure there are, but you and I can have a rational discussion about it without fear of being banned. See the difference? Also, this website isn't owned and operated by a member of the military with connections to spying.

true that... Hooray for reddit

Well damn! Haha won't be posting on there!

im pretty sure that is the smoking gun to debunk this. theres even another post of an admin admitting on that forum it was a hoax. dont let the truth get in the way of a good story.

i aint even a shill either brah.

edit:

"“Yeah, it was done to prove to a Sandy Hook truther here on our forum that not everything ‘timestamped’ on the internet is accurate. Things can be manipulated. But I guess that was lost on some people...,” user Ryan concurred."

hes an admin on that forum iirc

that admin is a shill. look at his posts, everything is to disqualify ct yet he has over 6.5k posts. Come on, man. Every post in that thread is him ad hominem 'debunking' nothing.

hmm, nah im not buying this one sorry.

There is also the timestamp issue in regards to this

http://www.godlikeproductions.com/external?https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.co.uk%2F%23hl%3Den%26output%3Dsearch%26sclient%3Dpsy-ab%26q%3Dhttp%3A%252F%252Fwww.unforumzed.com%252Fshowthread.php%253F3417-Obama-use-school-shooting-to-disarm-America%26oq%3Dhttp%3A%252F%252Fwww.unforumzed.com%252Fshowthread.php%253F3417-Obama-use-school-shooting-to-disarm-America%26gs_l%3Dhp.3...1303.1303.0.1876.1.1.0.0.0.0.88.88.1.1.0.les%253B..0.0...1c.1.5.psy-ab.AiuRlQ8Q67E%26pbx%3D1%26bav%3Don.2%2Cor.r_qf.%26bvm%3Dbv.43287494%2Cd.d2k%26fp%3D7078e609fa663252%26biw%3D1024%26bih%3D743

with this comment

"Refer to the date under the third main entry attached to unforumzed.com that was entered on 12-17-2010.

That is the dns entry timestamp that is in no way able to be changed or stricken from google cache without deleting the entire thread that was created using said dns entry. If you knew anything of what you are insinuating, you would find that only the page content a link takes you to can be changed."

Lemme give you some fuel and look at the dates:

http://www.unforumzed.com/showthread.php?1374

http://www.unforumzed.com/showthread.php?1375 <--

http://www.unforumzed.com/showthread.php?1376

When a thread is moved from one channel to another, the original Thread ID acts as a redirect to the new Thread ID.

That is the dns entry timestamp that is in no way able to be changed or stricken from google cache without deleting the entire thread that was created using said dns entry.

DNS entries are for controlling which IP address a particular domain name points to. This date is not the DNS entry timestamp, it is the published date of the article, which can be programmatically controlled.

I found this comment interesting

"I already did that search and all those "timestamp manipulation" threads have nothing to do with manipulating a timestamp in a forum posting. You know why? Because it can't be done.

Whenever someone posts a thread here, or any forum, the timestamp is generated based on the time it was posted and then that value is inserted into the database in a particular field. Now unless someone manipulated that timestamp behind the scenes (someone with direct access to the database), it's legit."

It's a brilliant way to get traffic for the forum.

Definitely noted.

"Picked up by the Examiner?" The Examiner is a glorified blog and nothing more. The writers are not vetted, and they are paid per click. Just like any other blog, they gather content from other people and post it for clicks. Even the executive editor admits, "They're blogs. They don't get edited. We don't give any direction to people on what to write in their blogs. And that's standard operating procedure."

So why OP thinks this is significant, I do not know.

I don't know what to make of the guy that allegedly posted the warning "Kathaksung" but if it's the same guy, he has been around for awhile. He's..well, different?

http://chemtrails.yuku.com/topic/384/How-Feds-murder-people?page=1#.UUKZSVvNjDJ

Keep in mind too that it's very easy to pull the Huxley and surround a person with bullshit false identities and similar names which obscure the veracity of any single message.

Yeah except for the fact that they have been developing microwave rays as a weapon and probably can cause blood clots/heart attacks.

Anyone got the post in full?

https://www.google.com/#hl=en&amp;output=search&amp;sclient=psy-ab&amp;q=http://www.unforumzed.com/showthread.php?3417-Obama-use-school-shooting-to-disarm-America&amp;oq=http://www.unforumzed.com/showthread.php?3417-Obama-use-school-shooting-to-disarm-America&amp;gs_l=hp.3...1303.1303.0.1876.1.1.0.0.0.0.88.88.1.1.0.les;..0.0...1c.1.5.psy-ab.AiuRlQ8Q67E&amp;pbx=1&amp;fp=1&amp;biw=1024&amp;bih=743&amp;cad=b&amp;bav=on.2,or.r_qf.

or

http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:RLE3A4G2o5cJ:www.unforumzed.com/showthread.php?3417-Obama-use-school-shooting-to-disarm-America%20&amp;cd=1&amp;hl=en&amp;ct=clnk&amp;gl=us&amp;client=firefox-a

But that's a snapshot as of YESTERDAY.

They've hidden the actual post.

Google has? Or, the site? Can't we access a cache that has a snapshot as of 2010?

you cant debunk this time stamp, can you?

http://s21.postimage.org/fl4x0y9yf/1761507.png

Yes, because it's not a timestamp, it is google displaying what it is told to and not timestamping it.

*bing

Doesn't matter. It's a search engine... it doesn't timestamp things, it reads the time given to it. Hence all the links I showed that were days, weeks months and years before the event.

I think it's important to track down the OP and ask him how he knew about this happening.

SANDY HOOK FALSE FLAGG WAKE UP SHEEPLE THEY COME FER MA BAZOOKA!!!

Calm down. Literally nothing to see here.

Dey took er jerbs?

Although creepy, it may just be a timestamp change by the guy.

Shameful and paranoid.

Did you guys see some of the comments on the thread talking about a new building being built at Yale being 322 hectometers away from Sandy Hook?

Yes, because no one ever builds 20 miles away from a place where something happened. Come on, man.

Check for yourself that it's not: http://www.daftlogic.com/projects-google-maps-distance-calculator.htm

Edward P. Evans Hall

to

12 Dickenson Drive Sandy Hook, CT 06482

Wow. I think you're on to something!!!

Living in New Haven, I'm pretty sure those buildings were planned WELL before Sandy Hook. All of downtown New Haven has been under massive replanning for YEARS. Yale owns a ton of property, you'll find stupid numbers for anything. The worst thing about Yale are their students and predatory property jacking. Remember, good conspiracy theorists should NEVER fall for the trap of Confirmation Bias.

The Sandy Hook shooting as a false flag op? Ludicrous. It was staged so that strict gun control could be enacted, thus disarming America, making it ripe for police state takeover? Sorry to break it to you, but the police state is already established and up and running in America. The PATRIOT Acts I and II took care of that.

And the practical details conspiracy theorists are proposing that prove a false flag op are laughable.

The parents of the dead are "disaster actors"? How does that work? Actors are being used as grieving parents? And none of the actual members of the Sandy Hook community are standing up saying, "Who are these people? They don't live around here? We don't know these people?" If that was my community, I could tell a stranger from a neighbor and with all the media roving around, I'd sure as hell tell someone. So far, though, accusations of "disaster actors" are coming from people who don't live in Sandy Hook.

Or the story surrounding the family of Kristen Parker, who was killed in the massacre, and the imbeciles who claim she was photographed with her family and President Obama after she was supposedly murdered. Never once thinking that the blonde haired girl in the photo was Kristen's younger sister wearing a hand-me-down.

I think conspiracy theorists who've jumped on the Sandy Hook bandwagon have no understanding of how things work. America learned a lot from Nazi Germany. Among other things, America learned you get more money out of people when you keep them in low wage jobs, rather than concentration camps.

I've looked at the Sandy Hook "evidence" and it's bullshit. The logic doesn't hold up and the grainy photographs and strategically edited video are unconvincing.

The only false flag there is about the Sandy Hook tragedy is conspiracy theorists who are pushing narratives that have no logic, no proof and no sense behind them.

Ok if you believe what examiner writes, you need to get you head inspected, i recommend a MRI. Examiner is for entertainment, not many people know this.

IF it was a conspiracy, and I'm not saying it was or wasn't, what was it for? Initially it seemed clear that it was a gun issue and it was a great opportunity to ban future sales of certain guns and have greater oversight on sales of the rest. Taking weapons, remember, was never even mentioned as a possibility by anyone in the government. But as we've seen, 3 months later, there has been no new gun legislation and talks of it have virtually ended.

Edit: Thanks for the down vote from whoever. I thought I was bringing up a reasonable point for discussion.

The proposed AWB just left the senate committee.

According to the article I've read they say its "unlikely" to pass a full senate vote.

Be that as it may, talks have not ended in any way.

That's why I said virtually. As far as the popular media, social media, and national discourse, it has been all but forgotten.

Until 3 months from now when another one happens.

Also, didn't you notice the massive ammo shortage nationwide all of a sudden? 9mm, .22, .38.

Let me know how those guns work out w/o ammo.

Those shortages were caused by people with guns buying up all the ammo

Actually, Walmart( along with other popular retail outlets like Academy Sports )has actively been reducing the amount of ammo they ship and display in their stores. The same people that always buy ammo are the ones going in and buying ammo, but there's much less of it to sell. They claim it's because of increased demand, but take states like Texas and Arkansas for example that have no foreseeable anti-gun legislation in the works( quite the opposite ). Arkansas is even the Walmart home state, yet every store across the area is limiting three boxes of ammo per customer, always have empty shelves( with no one ever over there asking to buy ), the clerks are saying they haven't received new ammo shipments in weeks, and they've increased their ammo pricing by at least 50%.

I don't think supply and demand here plays nearly as big of a factor as you think. The owners of local gunshops that I'm friends with tell me it's nearly impossible to order ammo from manufacturers.

And what about this story that homeland security is buying up insane amounts of ammo?

There have been 25 mass shootings since 2006. Zero weapon bans.

Seriously?? Do you Americans REALLY believe something so absurd as this? As if the gov't needs to MANUFACTURE a mass shooting... you people have enough of them without their help. Use your minds people! No wonder you are losing your place in the world.

When your gov pulls shit like this and this, you start to get a little paranoid.

I'm sorry I don't have time for Sandy Hook. I just don't care. Bigger fish to fry. You want to know what else? disinfo. CNN. Anderson Cooper. I'm willing to let this settle and believe innocent children were killed. I'm a father, I'm a grandfather. If there's more to it we'll find out. But I can't imagine what it would be like to have to experience what must be the most pain a person can feel. And don't forget, the media plays with people.

Bigger issue? You mean there is a bigger issue than them trying to take away our constitutional rights? The one specifically wrote into it for the protection against tyranny.. You have something more important than that? AND that's why you are a sheep.....

jeez, I dread waking up to an orangered after a night of drinking... Been awake for a long time now, just was kind of apprehensive about what I might have done...

This one isn't that bad. If you'll hear me out on this... They're out for us. I knew of the Memory Hole Blog just from reading whatever conspiracy related issues, websites, etc., long before Sandy Hook. Just whatever hmmm, that's funny but not haha type issue with a reference to James Tracy's Memory Hole blog, long before his name became linked with Sandy Hook.

I"m not really very organized. So I can't give you dates/times when I might have seen his blog about a totally different issue way before Sandy Hook ocurred.

Down here in South Fla, all the local news organizations suck. We have the Palm Beach Post, the Sun Sentinel (they endorsed Romney), and the Miami (Bath Salts, zomg, zombies...) Herald. All the so callled "alternative media" we have is the New Times. There's the PalmBeach /Broward and the Miami editions (owned by the Village Voice). They're alternative like I'm King Kong on top of the Empire State Building right now. They're trying to smear James Tracy bigger than shit and it's so obvious. So really they're attacking US! Because we know they're full of shit. (See Paul Craig Roberts' blog post about agenda driven news. It's been posted here on /r/conspiracy).

So anyway the PTB are aware of how much traction conspiracy theory or even just questioning the bullshit the Main/Lame Street Media is pumping out on a daily basis is getting with the general public. Sandy Hook is their big thing now because they can say, (props to you know who) THINK OF THE CHILDREN. So again we're being targeted. (I have a post in the future where I'm going to go off on them big time and it's going to funny and real!)

I'm very much aware that you're right; it's another contrived media event (see Mr Roberts blog) which was designed solely for the purpose of our :( government taking away another one of our rights.

I'm not a gun person, but I agree with you. I should be able to decide for myself just like I should be able to alter my consciousness which people have been doing since forever without my overreaching government getting in the way. The bottom line is that I think they're using Sandy Hook (with disinfo) to smear us and to herd everyone back to their CIA news media.

I heard you out, and I hear ya..

Even if the post turned out to be true (Unlikely, more than likely a sick attempt at getting traffic) it means nothing.

From the looks of things, this guy screams things like this all the time, meaning EVENTUALLY he's going to get something even close to right. His 'message' was vague enough that it could have meant anything.

Also, isn't the 'conspiracy' suggesting that nobody was killed? That all the kids are fake? This kinda goes against all that .

kids in ct in dec of 2012 isn't that vague. granted, its not specific specific, but its not that vague.

If it's real he got the week, month, year, location, and kids right. Seemed pretty sure of himself to say the least.

Also, isn't the 'conspiracy' suggesting that nobody was killed? That all the kids are fake? This kinda goes against all that .

There's several possible layers to the theory, calling it one cohesive theory is ridiculous. There's the thought it was an outright hoax, as in it never happened and actors plaid parts to sell the story. There's the thought it happened, but greatly exaggerated. And there's the thought it was a false flag that actually happened as reported, except it was orchestrated by tptb. All of these different theories have a lot of potential overlap.

From what I understand, it's more like a collection of independent bloggers than a regular newspaper.

That's why I said virtually. As far as the popular media, social media, and national discourse, it has been all but forgotten.