Good job, now all you have to do is stop listening to shitty music.

I died a little inside when it got to that part

Hey man, Odd Future is awesome. But that he explicitly mentions that song is really brave.

what would you do at his age? it's a sense of realism you couldn't capture elsewhere - I'd let it go.

Now if you said you were jammin out to revolution is my name by pantera or vote with a bullet by corrosion of conformity, I'd hop on a plain just to meet you and shake your hand.

Yes. That is the real crime in this story.

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Grow up, kid.

Why? Being old sucks

I like Tyler, I enjoy his music. There's nothing "revolutionary" about him though.

Dude, Subhumans and Crass were revolutionary music. Saying fuck school, burn shit is not revolutionary, it's just immature.

Subvert city, such an awesome song.

He is terrible

Might I make a recommendation? These guys are about as revolutionary as they come, and Hannah has been voted 2nd worst Canadian of all time. I would start by listening to "How to Clean Everything" and "Less Talk, More Rock" before you get into their newer stuff.

HOLY SHIT! I love Propaghandi, haven't given them a listen in a long time, thanks for the reminder! Definitely "Fuck you" music.

This would have done so much better over at r/athiesm...also average age here is like 37 and average race here is southern white, you do the math on your downvotes.

I think it's more that the average age at /r/atheism is 15 and suburban Americans who really don't even know what atheism means.

Had a good semi discussion with someone the other day about what it means. I think it's different for everyone, in the same way that theism is. They can be very abrasive over there, and I'm not as militant about things precisely because I'm not 15 anymore. That being said, what you see when you walk in there is a bunch of people feeling validated for maybe the first time, feeling as if they are a major group. It's hard to be ostracized in a society that constantly tells you you're not being treated differently. I would imagine many people in this subreddit feel the same at times. That's why I don't get too bent out of shape when the worst members call me a sheep (y'all really need a new metaphor ;)).

I've never called someone a sheep and will never call someone a sheep.

Too many times there are people in this community as well that simply blindly follow something because of it's conspiracy roots, not because of any sort of logic.

It's easy to believe the government could be doing anything because of the history of secrecy and the fact that it's so large.

I usually just say follow the money. It's like Occam's razor for conspiracies.

/r/athiesm

Examine the fact that you are using a song from an artist being funded/sponsored by corporations as an inspiring soundtrack to your passive-aggressive rebellion, and allow it to help you realize exactly how impressionable you are. Now, compare that to how easily your peers are manipulated with nationalism and ignorant submissiveness, and call their attention to it. Make them think and question themselves, not merely react and marginalize you. Show them there is more than what they see instead of looking down on them because they can't yet. Someone has to show them, why not you?

Teacher here in U.S. I really hate the whole pledge thing. And in my state they have to do the state pledge as well. I'm patriotic but I believe making students do it everyday is making the whole act meaningless and pointless. I never make an issue about if someone is doing the pledge or not as long as they aren't disrupting it.

An interesting fact about the pledge of allegiance is that the original version did not contain "and to the United States of America" part. It was originally "I pledge allegiance to my flag and the republic for which it stands, one nation indivisible, with liberty and justice for all."

My elementary school in the 90s had "under god" in there as well

I live in the South and for the longest time I thought "under God" was always in the pledge. They don't teach you any different.

In Catholic schools, they even add the line 'for both the born and unborn'.

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Interestingly enough this was in Yankee territory.

I thought they removed the "in god" part of the pledge as to not "Offend" anybody?

I haven't been in school for 8 years so I'm not sure about that, but last time I was there the 'in god' was still there.

Interesting...thanks for the info. I knew about the "under God" portion being added in the 50's. Texas also, added "under God" recently.

I really do believe there is a place for a pledge. But I think too many people basically worship the idea of the pledge. As a result it becomes as meaningless as some religions for some people.

You live in Texas don't you

Why yes...yes I do.

I think having your earbuds in maybe watered down your point a bit. Instead of looking like you were purposely avoiding the ceremony the ear buds put across that you maybe you weren't even paying attention. The statement you made was more about your preference in music than your opposition to the anthem.

I think he's trying to emphasize/accentuate his lack of participation. Yo OP! Just drop the earphones, and sit motionless, and you've got yourself a potent statement! Check out other activists around the world. Google Occupy, Anonymous, The Zeitgeist Movement; 3 angles of attack, on the same problem, which I advocate. Here is Jacque Fresco's story of refusing to pledge allegiance, then being sent to the Principles office. You might enjoy that whole movie.

Yeah, your statement is more legitimate if you're simply choosing to not participate.

I put my earbuds in and listened to "Radicals" by Tyler the Creator while the anthem played

So edgy... So brave.

OP is literally Gandhi Luther King

Cool, stick to your guns. (Or your flowers, as the case may be.) War is wrong.

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This is just some highschool kid who wants to rebel and look more worldly in front of his peers; he doesn't seem to know much about our national anthem.

OP is right about the french lyrics:

Car ton bras sait porter l'épée, / Il sait porter la croix!

Which translates as "As is thy arm ready to wield the sword, / So also is it ready to carry the cross. "

That's very wrong that the French version would say something different than the English one.

Despite that though, there's no regulation that students have to participate in "O'Canada".

Alright so before I begin, I would like to say OP IS A FAG. I go to school with OP and he is complete fuck. First of all he is a pathological liar and an egomaniac narcissist. He did sit for the national anthem but he was not sent to the office, and is not the small time rebellion you all think he is. He is going through a Tyler the creator phase and thinks he's a fucking God. Please downvote post to shrink this faggot liar 'sego.

Oooo I hope this reaches the top quickly. Have any proof though? -I feel so silly asking this seeing as it's not really important, but hey others might want it-

Proof!

Damn. Thats some intense proof right there.

You're so jealous that you went on his reddit, looked up his post and then wrote a comment against him?

Man, you need to fill your time with more useful stuff...

He was boasting about it in class about how he "posted about it on reddit but said he got sent to the office and he got over 100 upvotes"

When you get older you'll find that the things you stood up for were results of simple rebellious attitude. Practice humility and respect and you'll find yourself at peace with the world and most importantly yourself. It's interesting how time and age brings wisdom.

It's interesting how time and age brings wisdom.

..or the illusion of it. =P

Not saying you're wrong, just saying that's one thing I realized as I grew up. As a kid, I totally believed older=wiser as a rule, but as I got older the line between age and wisdom faded and I realize it was an illusion to begin with. Time doesn't impart wisdom anyway, experience does.

I think that last bit is important. If you spend your life hiding from the world in your grey-beige cubicle, you won't be any wiser than a 14-year-old kid. Experience is everything.

Well, yes and no. Two people can have similar experience and come out with completely opposing perspectives towards said experience. It's all really relative to the individual, subjective vs objectiveness. Open mindedness is key. Typically, or rather traditionally, the older a person is the more likely they will be 'set in their beliefs' while the youth are much more malleable. I'm just ranting, ill shut up now.

Two semi-relevant quotes come to mind, though I have no idea who to credit for either one... "Losing an illusion makes one wiser than finding a truth.'' and ''The empty bucket makes the loudest noise."

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And I have no place in secular society. Praise Jesus.

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Already answered.

Be sure to document your efforts,written up,audio and video whatever you can get. It would be great to see it spread.

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if anything unsavory happens a written record will only get you so far. Audio/Video record everything

Audio / video record, then youtube!

hey OP check out Jacque Fresco's story of doing the same thing. You might enjoy the whole movie too!

next time im sent to the office

ha

So brave.

Holy shit is this thread so fucking brave. I thought i stumbled into a conspiracy circlejerk subreddit.

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How the fuck is this brave? SOOOOO BRAVE TO NOT STAND UP. Fuck this subreddit is falling apart.

You are just frustrated don't blame this subreddit, people all over the internet are cunts, better recognize it now cause it will spare you some anger.

As a West Coast Canadian I feel like I'm missing a verse in our anthem.

OP is a retard.

I put my earbuds in and listened to "Radicals" by Tyler the Creator while the anthem played

2edgy4me

1. No Quebecker would refer to themselves as canadian.
2. English level is too high;

3. niveau du francais pas si avancee;

I call bullshit

Loyalty to your country always, and loyalty to your government when it deserves it. - Mark Twain

Stand up. Respect your country and the men and women who fought for it. If you want to 'stand up to the man' so to speak, there are better ways.

yeah, I'm going to have to disagree. I think if you don't agree with aspects of your government one of the first steps is to not pledge your allegiance to it. allegiance should be conditional at best, not soullessly pledged, or in the canucks case sang daily

Yeah but not standing up to acknowledge the national anthem in your twelth grade class is hardly an effective way to make a stand against your Government and seems more like a way to gain respect from similarly minded peers.

Besides, not singing the anthem does not exactly revoke your pledge of allegiance (I am not sure it even counts as a real pledge of allegiance), especially if you have been singing for the past ten years with no problems.

I can admire the mindset and encourage it but this seems a little circlejerky.

So easy to pretend that you can separate country and government.

Shame on you for failing to respect the only thing which endures - the individual human spirit.

I did the same thing when I was your age. The next year was after 911 and I had a jacket I made with the towers that said remember the truth. And upside down american was below it symbolizing America in distress. While I recieved harassment all day and certain teachers stood up for me at the end up the day I was told I could never come back if I chose to continue wearing the jacket. I stopped wearing it.

I first sat during the pledge in 4th grade, because my older brother told me they couldn't make me stand and pledge, my teacher grabbed me by the ear and drug me to the principles office. it fucking hurt and was humiliating, he like knocked over desks to come at me. dude was enraged. I was sent back to class as soon as I got to the office, because I had every right to refuse to pledge. I don't think I ever pledged my allegiance again.

Bravery levels are off the chart

Beat me by a year! I stopped doing it in 5th grade.

Good job standing up for your beliefs! Me and 4 of my friends did this our senior year at an assembly. It was right after 9/11 and we sat in protest. We got a lot a guff, they said it was illegal but we for some reason we never got into trouble for it.

Not that it is cool to have the cross mentioned in the anthem but isn't the translation more like carry or wear as opposed to wield?

OK... first off, it's clear you're a little kid. I also love Tyler, The Creator. I love him enough where I went and bought his new album that came out yesterday and gave him my money. However, that part didn't need to make it in the story.

See, what you were doing was being a disrespectful shit head. Not that you don't have the right to be, but you weren't doing it to stand up to something you believe in, or because you were just tired. You specifically didn't do it cuz you wanted to piss off your teacher and mak a scene to look like the "smart kid who wont conform or be brainwashed." There's times I didn't stand for the anthem too. However I didn't have my headphones in, I was asleep at my desk. My teachers would care sometimes, but I didn't disrespect them. I love my country. However, I don't need to stand for a shitty song to "prove it."

I remember being your age. I too thought I was a badass. Also, no one came up to you and said they will join you. All they did was call you a moron.

Support your country not your politicians. Canada is a great place to live and you bash it just because you take some lyrics literally. TtC says don't take his songs literally so why are you taking this one? If you did, are world would have no order. 'fuck pigs, fuck guards, all some fuckin retards.' is any better? If he wasn't a moron he would have used the word idiots

Maybe its time to get rid of the brainwashing in another department.

Universities asleep at the switch

What's next? Not standing for the national anthems at a sporting event? I don't agree on your boycotting but whatever floats your boat.

Actually at the rodeo when I was a little kid my parents made me walk around with them all over the outside part then walk up the astrodome having to stop and stand for awhile every few feet. We finally reached the level we were headed to and i couldn't stand anymore so i sat down. Everyone got pissed off at me because the national anthem was playing. I was just tired =(

Question: Why is this in r/conspiracy to begin with?

Also just to let you know, /u/robandand. Just thought I let you know.

because OP is a troll. how can i be the only one that notices this?

Umm... Canadian here. In which part of the National Anthem does it say "Since I know how to wield a sword, I know how to wield a cross."?

Is it not basically the same translated to English?

from the official French lyrics: Car ton bras sait porter l'épée, / Il sait porter la croix!

Which translates as : "As is thy arm ready to wield the sword, / So also is it ready to carry the cross."

You'd be wrong to believe that, here you go

Well, that is why I was asking.

No problem :P

/r/firstworldanarchists

Highschooler............... check

Ear buds.................... check

"Against war".............. check

Atheist...................... check

Delusions of grandeur... check

Diagnosis...................LITERALLY SOBRAVE

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This is how a revolution begins.

Yeah, I'm sure the Rockefellers and Rothschilds are shakin' in their boots right now just thinking about it... the revolution, man.

I'm Canadian and agree that standing up to an anthem you might not even identify with is ridiculous.

One time, my ESL (basic english) teacher was standing on the hallway while the anthem played.. This random guy was walking around the hallway with a hat on when she spotted him. She brought him into the class and started YELLING LIKE CRAZY about his hat, and his lack of respect.

After 4-5 minutes of yelling and him being quiet (she yelled at him thru the entire anthem) he spoke korean and a girl translated that he didn't understand english, he had landed in canada the day before.

fair enough, but you shouldn't listen to music instead, just sit there in silence.

Its good to live in a country to doesn't kill you or your family for sitting down for your beliefs. Thousands of good young men and women have died to ensure you have the opportunity. That song, as most national anthems, commemorates their sacrifice-i am sure they would do it all over again to protect you right to express yourself. TWD

Sing the English version. Don't say God in It

I'm personally proud of you definitely stick to your guns. Just a test and definitely keep us in the loop.

Props on standing up for what you believe in. I had to endure the same thing while in school.

I do think it is disrespectful to listen to music while this is going on though. It's one thing to refuse to stand and recite government propaganda but there needs to be SOME level of respect shown.

Why? The respect is not reciprocated by the government.

That's awesome! It's people like you who give me hope for the future. Never stop asking questions, and challenging authority!

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if I dont respect the troops. I

Tell them that you don't respect a. their argument, as it's the same ones the North Koreans, and americans use on their kids to brainwash them into unquestioningly supporting something bad, and b. because you are universally opposed to murdering children and innocents, illegal wars for empires where hundreds of thousands died based on admitted lies, and c.

c. is most important of all

adults condoning the subtle brainwashing of children they should be awake and aware enough to protect.

TELL EVERYONE NOT REMAINING SEATED WITH YOU THAT THEY ARE NO DIFFERENT THAN THE NORTH KOREAN CHILDREN FORCED TO BEGIN "PLEDGING ALLEGIANCE" TO THE FLAG AND SINGING THE NATIONAL ANTHEM TO "SUPPORT THEIR TROOPS" AT A YOUNG AGE IN SCHOOL BEFORE THEY ARE ABLE TO THINK CRITICALLY OR FORM OPPOSING OPINIONS FROM KIM JUNG EUN'S. Tell them to enjoy being dumb slaves, enjoy paying the government for the PRIVILEGE to use YOUR OWN LABOR/LIFE/EFFORTS to LIVE, it's called taxation, enjoy paying for the western imperial aggression in the middle east, enjoy directly financing(via taxation) murder.

I did this same thing in High School; they sent home a school-wide letter about it to every student's parents. Still didn't get me to stand up for the "pledge of allegiance" though. Fucking drug-riddled dens of mediocrity.

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apparently you don't know how to read, or are just too lazy to realize that most of these comments are calling OP out for making this story up, or, if he is telling the truth, for being a disrespectful attention seeking shithead of a child.

what's funny is that since you have this model of what a "conspiracy theorist" is in your head (a gullible ignorant "retard") that even though we're doing THE EXACT OPPOSITE of what you're saying we're doing, in your mind you still see the reactions you want to see.

so who's the retard?

what are you talking about??

fuck yeah, OP. Keep it up.

Why don't you and the other ones joining you just move somewhere you don't have to say it you disrespectful little shit

Because the world is all 100% claimed by garbage like you, and the only way to "go somewhere else" is to kill all the people residing there currently. Is that really want you want? Where do you live?

I live in Canada as well. Grow up man and kiss my ass.

I don't know how your ignorance suggests that I need to grow up, but perhaps once I've "grown up", I'll understand that ignorance is just a buffoon's way of dealing with a situation he can't possibly comprehend.

Lol. Please stop already.

Indeed. I wish you the worst.

Thanks your too kind.

Why do you hate Canada?

Southpark told me to.

Not sure if trolling...

Bill O'Reilly loves you

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Keep quoting Tyler, kid.

Interestingly enough this was in Yankee territory.

In Catholic schools, they even add the line 'for both the born and unborn'.

edit- made the c big

I thought they removed the "in god" part of the pledge as to not "Offend" anybody?

Why? The respect is not reciprocated by the government.

I think that last bit is important. If you spend your life hiding from the world in your grey-beige cubicle, you won't be any wiser than a 14-year-old kid. Experience is everything.