That's actually some pretty interesting shit right there......congrats.

First one that seemed telling.

This looks solid enough for a drone strike.

Ah, but you've forgotten that there are women who run in the race. We can only drone him if everyone in the strike zone is a militant-aged male. Damn women, cock-blocking our Freedom!

Strike that from the record, private.

In the "No bag" photo if you look at his arms/shoulders it looks like he is holding the back hanging infront of him.

My thought exactly, by the position of his shoulders, it really looks like he's holding something in front of him.

ehhh, looks like no bag?

http://imgur.com/a/f2iNp

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I don't see any straps.

yeah maybe i'm seeing things

There is no spoon.

Look how stretched out the bag is... think about if there was a pressure cooker in there it would probably barely fit in that orientation. Very possible here. I also agree with others that there is no straps in this picture, but blowing the image up like this really helps to bring the details out.

You can see some stuff in the side pocket as well. A square pink think and a larger green and white object. Any guesses on what those are?

http://www.simplyorangejuice.com/

That's what the picture reminds me of. Not trying to be a smart ass or anything, i'm generally concerned with this.

Yep, here's a 400ml version, could be the bottle.

http://bevwire.files.wordpress.com/2010/12/simplyorangebottle.jpg

Came here to say this, good eye!

Nice. Now can anyone guess what the two other objects in that pocket are? A small square pink and a larger greenish white object almost looks like money.

Almost looks like a small thing of Altoids mints.

Can I just say this is one of the few posts I've really enjoyed on this board.

I make no effort to hide my generally disdainful attitude to the topic of conspiracy theories, but it is really nice to see posts like this where you just point out interesting observations without making any jumps to conclusions. It's posts like this that keep me interested in this subreddit. Cheers :-)

I make no effort to hide my generally disdainful attitude to the topic of conspiracy theories

Then may I ask why you're here? I'm not trying to be snarky, I'm really curious as to why you'd be in a subreddit for conspiracy theories if you didn't like them? I tend to avoid things I don't like..

No worries, I get the spirit of your question :-)

A couple of reasons. Curiosity is quite a big one. The main one I suppose is that the thought of having a debate with someone who holds a completely different opinion on something I generally take to be true through habit is appealing.

I find a lot of people who are into this sort of thing are antagonistic and make wild assumptions based of speculative evidence, good ol' confirmation bias and all that, hence my generally negative attitude. By saying that I have this attitude however I'd like to show that I'm aware of it, and I suppose it's meant quasi-apologetically too. I'm aware there are people on this subreddit who enjoy disseminating evidence and pondering whether there is more than meets the eye to it all, and it's them that keep me coming back. As it is those people I'm interested in interacting with I'd rather let them know from the off that I'm generally a skeptic but by the very nature of posting on here I'm willing to partake in debate.

That was a bit rambly, sorry. Hope it answered your question satisfactorily.

Indeed you did! I can understand and respect that. I don't frequent here, but wanted to read about Boston.

Thanks for your courteous response!

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I don't really have much in the way of an opinion on the two you mention initially, I don't really know anything about them beyond a quick scan of Wikipedia now and that's not really enough to reach a solid conclusion.

That's kinda the reason I'm here, I'm curious. I feel it's pretty unfair of me to be derisory of the general populace of conspiracy theorists until I spend some time regularly reading through the subreddit. Conclusion so far is that there are a fair number of people who just enjoy milling over data and proposing suggestions for alternate explanations.....however your general reputation is tarnished by the people who generally state "WAKE UP SHEEPLE" and then use rhetoric, insults and excitable language in response to any attempt at debate.

Pick a theory, and throw me some of your favorite evidence for it and why it strongly disagrees with official reports and I'd love to have a pore over it :-)

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Ok, the torture report was interesting, moderately unsurprising though.

I agree that these things will undoubtably receive lessened coverage by what happened at Boston, but that doesn't necessarily mean Boston was staged with the intent to bury these things. Besides, the report was released to the public so all that would happen is a slower awareness spread rather than a nullified one. If it was something the white house really wanted to cover it would surely have been easier to throw it on a friday release and then stage something for the weekend.

I have to ask at this point, what is your wider picture view? Do you believe in a larger, more insidious conspiracy like many people here ( be it NWO, illuminati, anything of that ilk) or are you more of the opinion that sometimes a government will have to do something distasteful which they will try to move the public attention away from?

From the limited time I've had to read about the WTC bombings all I can see is a fuck up. I could easily believe that the FBI knew enough to know something could happen but not enough to prevent it, just as I could believe that they were trying to outsmart the terrorists and screwed the pooch royally in it. If you think you can provide any interesting or illuminating sources on this feel free, I would enjoy reading them.

My job is the exact opposite unfortunately, it is incredibly intellectually demanding. By the time I'm settling down to an evenings faffing on the internet I tend to be exhausted, but sometimes it's nice to have an intellectual excercise thats purely done out of interest. I'd also like to think that it gives me a fair chance to better analyse things without letting personal feelings bias me too much.

As for the main attention of the US being centred on the middle east, I would (potentially naively I admit) have just assumed that was out of self interest. Attempting to improve the stability of the middle east directly benefits America through ease of access to oil and the petroleum industry. There isn't much of an investment in Burma, and they aren't likely to cause much of a ruckus that will necessitate the involvement of the US to protect their interests unlike a war in the middle east would.

Again with North Korea, if there is a chance that they have the weapons they claim to have then it COULD threaten US interests. More to the point it re-affirms the ties with South Korea, and could even lead to improved relations with China. Having China come over to our side on the DPRK issue, one the have historically been kinda supportive of, it could lead to improved communication between the governments.

I'll be the first to admit I have only an armchair understanding of foreign politics. Please feel free to contradict/correct me on any matters you think I've got the wrong end of the stick on :-)

HE'S A SNARC!

did you notice who that backpack is behind in the second picture? It's the kid from the first post suspect.

Noticed that too which made it even more strange.

Of course is it. That's where the bomb went off. You're going to be re-seeing that photo a lot.

oh jeez - you mean he was really standing where he was when they took a picture of him???

What?

the bomb didnt go off by the patio. If you look at everyone who was seriously hurt or passed, it was near the sidewalk by the tree. Look at the blood. Its gonna be away from initial point of explosion.

I like how r/conspiracy turns us into detectives.

Wow!! I think the OP is saying the bags are the same and not that the green 'cap' has something to do with the bomb. The bag on the guys shoulders is the same bag unattended near the blast location.

That's exactly it.

"Both bags in question seem to have a green... thing (bottle, whatever) attached to them" so they dont pic up the wrong bag

Well in the first photo you can tell it's juice or whatever - not a tag.

Also,

In the zoomed in pic - where we only see the little green spec - notice the kid to the right -- that's the kid who was also noted as being suspicious. He is the one who was "pulling on his hoodie" in that other post.

That guy in the blue looks very similar to Colin Kaepernick.

lol he does

In the first link, the picture on the right, that actually looks like the front of somebodies jacket to me, possibly with something attached to the front. If you look towards the top of the inside of the circle you can see a face which the jacket belongs to.

Please correct me if i'm wrong.

also when he has the back pack his sunglasses are on. If i was feeling sketchy about what i had on me i wouldnt want to look anyone around me in the eyes. but after his bag is gone sunglasses are off.

See the guy in blue Found Him

http://imgur.com/WESSxOK

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It seems like the bottle in the left pix was an orange maid bottle with its green twist cap, whereas the bottle in the right picture looks more like a Poland Springs bottle. The reason I say that is the green redditors are seeing in the right pix stretches down a bit farther down instead of being on the top.

That's just my observation and opinion as a runner who drinks both refreshments.

Its a bottle of Simply Orange...

I know that. I'm not saying it's a bomb, but it's in both photos and looks to be attached to the bag in both.

It's sitting in a little net that's designed to hold these kinds of things. I have one too. Having said that, it would be impossible for the two caps to be the same because A) wrong angle. You would only be able to see the cap if you were behind the man or to his rear-right. In this picture we're to his rear-left. B) wrong height. It's supposed to be butt-height, not shoulder-height.

Here is what I am thinking. Mossad watch some guy who looks vaugely middle eastern or whatever, or they stake out a Mosque and find some guy drinking orange juice. They wait until he throws the bottle away and then they retrieve the bottle after he leaves, being careful not to erase his prints or put theirs on it. Put the bottle with the bag and after the FBI puts it back together,, they grab the guy and they have a false lead. Either the guy has a alibi or the torture him into confessing.

You're seeing an empty Simply Orange bottle.

What's interesting is the duct tape. It's either a duct taped side pocket, or the bottle is taped to the backpack. And why would an empty bottle be taped to the backpack? Some kind of makeshift module for the pressure cooker bomb, maybe.

Or maybe it's just garbage he didn't throw away and held onto until later.

Not tape. It's a clear webbing on the side of the backpack meant for holding items like this.

Are you sure it's duct taped? Could it not just be sitting one of those those little mesh pockets on the side or something?

Well if it was JUST mesh, I think you'd be able to see the bottle better. I could be wrong but that's my impression from looking at it. Either the mesh was old, so the guy employed ducttape to retain the size and shape of the pocket, OR he really doesn't want that bottle to come out of that pocket (or have it's contents scrutinized) while moving through the crowd.

If you look at it closely, you can see that it is a pack of gum and little tin for mints.

According to the FBI, they already have a suspect in custody. Using the video from the Lords & Taylor shop directly in front of the bomb site, they have video of the guy planting the bomb and now have him in custody. Sorry, I don't have the link to the story but it's on CNN.

FBI is denying that anyone is in custody

Well now they say the dont have a suspect..

What makes them suspicious looking?

There's a few threads/images where people keep pointing out how they're not paying any attention to the race, etc.

Shows it quite often in here.

yeah to be fair it is a 4-5 hour race its not exactly something that keeps you on the edge of your seat

Not paying attention to the race? Then maybe that man holding the baby in the first picture is guilty.

Or perhaps they are looking around for a friend. I count at least a dozen people not looking at the race.

Many people are holding backpacks, so that can't be it.

Not to mention the album of evidence you posted has a girl's ass circled in the third picture. Solid investigative work there.

Hey, don't blame me. I'm just piecing together something interesting I saw.

I don't mention anywhere that these guys were behind it - I'm merely making observations.

You are labeling people as suspicious based on a picture with zero evidence to support your claim.

That is pretty damn close to slander. Richard Jewell come to mind?

Sweet! Glad I made the original images/posts pointing them out!

..has anyone else noticed a few of these "suspects" are wearing not only a baseball hat, but a hat with sunglasses on top? maybe some sort of sign to each other? if there are multiple people involved?

That's pushing it a bit, I think. I mean, people wear sunglasses on their hat all the time.

I suppose you never know, though.

maybe, just saying. i've been looking around the photos since i noticed that and haven't seen very many people rocking that look.

It was a sunny day in April. Many people there are wearing hats/sunglasses.

You are labeling people as suspicious based on a picture with zero evidence to support your claim.

That is pretty damn close to slander. Richard Jewell come to mind?

Noticed that too which made it even more strange.

Well if it was JUST mesh, I think you'd be able to see the bottle better. I could be wrong but that's my impression from looking at it. Either the mesh was old, so the guy employed ducttape to retain the size and shape of the pocket, OR he really doesn't want that bottle to come out of that pocket (or have it's contents scrutinized) while moving through the crowd.

Of course is it. That's where the bomb went off. You're going to be re-seeing that photo a lot.

oh jeez - you mean he was really standing where he was when they took a picture of him???