Do Not Get Distracted By Bombing Suspects - Let's Focus on Who the Undercovers Were
80 2013-04-18 by TheWiredWorld
At this point it's obvious they were spec ops/undercover or something. I am referring to these guys:
They are also seen in this video - walking around clearly more interested in security than helping anyone, and are all wearing the same thing (loading into a black SUV):
http://www.nbcnews.com/video/nbcnews.com/51577004#51577004
A user pointed out (I will gladly credit you with this, but I don't know if you want to be called out, just being considerate) that the hat the one guy is wearing is this hat:
http://www.511craft.com/All-Products/Accessories/Hats/Craft-Hat.html
which is also Chris Kyle's private security company, Craft Intl.
Someone jokingly suggested that COINTELPRO is spamming the bluejacket guys, etc., to divert attention. It's a possibility.
But who are these guys, why were they there, and if they were SEALS - even more so, why were they there?
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10 marcy_anon 2013-04-18
camo pants and black jacket.
-18 logically 2013-04-18
Everybody is really reaching in these posts.
15 TheWiredWorld 2013-04-18
Yeah we're totally reaching with the multiple people with ear pieces, khaki pants, identical boots, and meandering about with authorities after the blast.
Totally just a flash mob.
-3 stoneasaurusrex 2013-04-18
Cause when we carry out secret public bombings everyone dresses the same and is obvious about it right? Theres no such thing as a military surplus store in America these days where people could buy all this clothing/backpacks.
Edit: Gonna leave this link of the Craft Intl. Online store here for yall. You'll find the boots and hat in there available to anyone.
http://www.511craft.com
8 leo_eris 2013-04-18
Yeah they are. The undercover guys easily identifiable with khakis, black shirts and combat boots.
11 white_choco_mints 2013-04-18
Here the pair can be seen after the explosion, it appears as though they are running, and the one without the hat has lost his backpack. Quite a big backpack to misplace, if you ask me..
17 pjpat 2013-04-18
http://i.imgur.com/aUnxh74.jpg
the clock says 4:11:40, bomb already went off and they both have their backpacks.
in your picture you see that the clock says 4:15:49. In the meantime the black car arrived and one of their colleagues is handling a backpack on the ground. Probably the guy who dropped it to go wherever they're running.
And to answer to OP: security guards in uniform is not exactly what i'd call "undercover".
3 virgule 2013-04-18
Slam dunk! Don't follow the red herring. It's not about "us vs them". It never been.
10 onlysaneman_ 2013-04-18
We've already established that the top photo was taken after the bombs went off, and they're still wearing the backpacks. Also, if they were "undercover", they'd likely be toning down the military and PMC gear.
Looks like private security to me - why they're there, i don't know.
Edit - There were a lot of these guys hanging around, many with black backpacks. Not sure what this means or why they're there, but the answer to those questions will be very interesting.
3 lurchpop 2013-04-18
Op wasn't saying they're suspects but just what were mercenaries doing there when the place was already packed with cops?
People in other threads were saying the backpacks were to detect nukes and the earpiece was part of the device (like headphones on metal detectors).
Obviously they're covert security of some sort, but the question is was there a drill like some eyewitnesses reported that officials denied? Was there a prior threat reported which was also denied? Are blackwater-type security personnel common at non-vip events like this in American cities? edit:spelling
1 onlysaneman_ 2013-04-18
Yeah since i posted that i've been asking the same questions.
9 [deleted] 2013-04-18
I kind of feel like the bmb was entrapment gone wrong, via the only honorable judge
2 TheWiredWorld 2013-04-18
On the DL...I honestly this this is the case - problem is they'll never fess up to it.
1 [deleted] 2013-04-18
Yeah, never.
9 [deleted] 2013-04-18
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0 cccpcharm 2013-04-18
but you are if only a couple of people out of 100,000 know what the "uniform" looks like
8 marcy_anon 2013-04-18
I wasn't joking. 'You can fool some of the people all the time, won't get fooled again.'
28 iam_sancho2 2013-04-18
"There's an old saying in Tennessee — I know it's in Texas, probably in Tennessee — that says, fool me once, shame on — shame on you. Fool me — you can't get fooled again."
3 ztch10 2013-04-18
upvote for classic juciy j reference
-2 [deleted] 2013-04-18
Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice shame on me. :-)
9 the_dalai_lambda 2013-04-18
no I don't think that is it..
6 KikiCVIII 2013-04-18
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dStTyX10Ii0&feature=youtube_gdata_player
3 [deleted] 2013-04-18
lol lmao holy shit thanks for that.
2 dan_kase 2013-04-18
George Bush knows the sayin
4 wishful_cynic 2013-04-18
-Bob
2 Poseidonshairyballs 2013-04-18
Revelation of the Method. These creeps are getting very bold and taking big chances now and it juuuust might blow up in their faces this time because they underestimate/don't understand the public's ability to undercut the official narrative of event like this.
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2 tsaf325 2013-04-18
I'm surprised your the first I've seen to call out the VIPR teams. I had no idea the clothing looked similiar. Ill hqve to agree about the vipr teams but that's about it.
8 dromoe 2013-04-18
They were most likely involved in the "drill" that was taking place. There was a lot of security there. Including bomb sniffing dogs as well. And agents telling people to "calm down its a drill" shorty before the explosion. In my mind the most likely scenario is inside involvement. While all departments were busy focusing on the real world drill that was taking place 2 bombs were detonated. 99% of the people involved with the drill were in the dark about the actual explosives. Only a small fraction of people at the deepest level planned and executed this attack. The bomber, if not involved directly with the conspirators, was places there by them. It feels like they may have fucked this one up though. They usually have a direct story or narrative by now. So either something else is in the works or they are racing to cover their tracks.
3 19Alcibiades87 2013-04-18
No, timing. They need to break it either tomorrow or Friday so there's breaking news with which the punditry covers up the simultaneous passage of CISPA and possibly striking a two-fer in people missing the 'border security' provisions in the immigration bill (meant to fence us in, not keep immigrants out).
3 FortunateSon101 2013-04-18
Not convinced yet, but I guess we'll wait for Friday.
2 Honey_Otter 2013-04-18
Seems like a legit source
5 Marchie 2013-04-18
Maybe they're undercover security officers at an huge international sporting event
Nah that's a little too out there for /r/conspiracy
9 TheWiredWorld 2013-04-18
Undercover security officers that didn't catch the bomb = government failure.
I don't think that's hard for conspiracy to grasp at all.
5 captainSketchyPants 2013-04-18
This. At the very least they did a bomb drill throughout the event and couldnt find the bomb.... like shit. Somebody better get demoted
2 rum_rum 2013-04-18
I'm still looking for info on this "bomb drill" that keeps getting mentioned.
2 chostings 2013-04-18
Not throughout. Before. It's a four hour event with hundreds of thousands of people in transition during the entire event and with access to an entire city. I'm sure you could do better, though.
2 leo_eris 2013-04-18
I am curious what conspiracy you would come up with if they had caught the bomb.
0 marcy_anon 2013-04-18
probably would have to wait for the patsy to produce proof that it was a gov.job.. you know, exactly like the world trade center bombing in 1993.
0 SinkVenice 2013-04-18
9/11 = Government failure.
People seem to have trouble grasping on to that round here.
-4 logically 2013-04-18
Didn't catch it? How many people were there? I've shown several people this post. Thanks for the laughs.
-7 Marchie 2013-04-18
You can't have it both ways. Either the government was not competent enough to prevent the bombing or they're evil masterminds who carried them out. Choose.
12 marcy_anon 2013-04-18
this is a false dichotomy based on the assumption that the 'government' is one entity, and completely transparent at all levels and departments. clearly ridiculous. try again.
-4 leo_eris 2013-04-18
OK, let me try. It was instead sponsored by internet megacorps who want CISPA to pass.
EDIT: I Knew it. Only government can do wrong around here. Corporations can do no wrong.
2 Scruffy_the_Janitor2 2013-04-18
I've figured it out:
If there is security present - gobmint false flag carried out by security group
If no security present - MKULTRA!!!!!!! patsy did it and the gobmint pulled security in that area so it could happen.
Always a conspiracy my friend
3 jakewi 2013-04-18
I think this is a pretty logical explanation
2 anonatwork 2013-04-18
I fixed it for you:
Do not get distracted by the security personnel, lets focus on who actually set up and set off the bombs.
2 welliamwallace 2013-04-18
Why was there a private security team at the finish line of the biggest foot race in the world? Is that seriously what you are asking?
1 Geddy007 2013-04-18
Hey, thanks for posting that NBC link. I've been trying to get this into the conversation for the last couple of days, but it just hasn't stuck yet. Anyone that hasn't seen it should do so now. It's like playing "Where's Waldo"? Keep your eyes open for "black hats, coats, back packs with khaki pants and shoes". This may well be part of a civilian support group, but then again, why all the black back packs, and WHY are they loading stuff INTO a black SUV? It also looks like some of them are wearing body armor.
1 FletchFFletch 2013-04-18
The black suburban is the Department of Homeland Security's satellite communication vehicle. The guys running around with radiation meters are probably with the Domestic Nuclear Detection Office.
http://policecarwebsite.net/fc/fedcars/dhs.html
0 Hum-C 2013-04-18
I just feel like the whole point of having those "agents" there was a giveaway. When the LA marathon goes on, I never see any of these people? Why this year, 13 years after the last attack would they be there? it doesn't make sense.
0 ayenon 2013-04-18
This has been discussed over here http://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/1cjmoc/urban_combat_troops_all_over_boston_marathon_who/