Do not trust what you see.
70 2013-04-23 by [deleted]
Hello good folks of /r/conspiracy • I have, in the past few days seen a whole lot of photo posts regarding the Boston epilogue -- and that I've felt that after following this subreddit throughout the past week, folks need to know that forgery in digital imaging is very possible. •• Take a look at this ••* This is a request I took on on another subreddit, to "take out" the lady on the right * I'm not accusing the media for forgery or whatever the hell that's out there isn't true - I'm just saying that it IS possible, and that people should really know this before they gain their perspectives. If we can take things out, we can put things in.
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29 [deleted] 2013-04-23
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9 [deleted] 2013-04-23
Stalin, one of the most fascinating men to ever walk the planet, did a lot more than edit "people out of photographs". He edited people out of entire regions of the USSR. He also like to edit food out of their bellies.
Ultimately, alas, Stalin was without a loving matriarch.... his was unfortunately taken from him and his masculine spite consumed him (and his love for alcohol).
7 FEEEEED-MEEEEEE 2013-04-23
And that shit is HARD! Have you ever tried to overlay several negatives in a dark room to develop the picture you want? If you don't act fast (depending on your chemicals) you'll waste SOOOOOO much paper!!
19 FEEEEED-MEEEEEE 2013-04-23
Clone stamp tool. Healing brush. 1337 'shop skillz, bro
6 amgoingtohell 2013-04-23
Delete>content aware.
3 NoHero3s 2013-04-23
Someone's up to date on their CS6.
7 [deleted] 2013-04-23
I've always had a hard time with video/photo evidence. Not only can most organisations control the amount of photos/video around. (To a limiting degree with the cell phone phenomenon). Thing is though, I'm sure you could pay someone a pile of money to falsify a video or photo. I'm not very good at photo manipulation, but there are people who are. It would be very naïve to assume that it's never happend.
This also reminds me of why I never understood why screenshots or documents are taken seriously. I could photocopy a document look up the font and replace the words with relative ease. Screenshots being much eaiser.
Of course you can't assume every photo/video/document/screenshot is fake. However it would be interesting to see how many are fake and why.
5 -Lowbrow- 2013-04-23
Very true. Most people - even technologically-aware people - don't realize the extent to which what we see is shaped digitally. Sure, everyone know certain things are done with CGI in movies, but what isn't obvious are the subtle and normal-looking things in mass media that are totally fabricated.
What am I talking about? View this You might be amazed at the ease with which things are convincingly faked.
It might be healthy to question whether or not your favorite musician really is in the music video you're watching...or if they even exist as a person and not just a computer image. News footage should be subjected to scrutiny. It would even be reasonable to question what you (think you) see in real life. (See "augmented reality")
5 [deleted] 2013-04-23
Photojournalist here. Photos you see from legit companies are NOT going to be touched like this. People caught doing that are removed and black listed within the industry for the most part. So yeah, people on the Internet might but the photographer/editors are not touching that.
1 MuonDragon 2013-04-23
This is an important point. If we're looking at a photo from the AP we can generally assume it's legitimate. If we're looking at FBI surveillance photos, on the other hand, we can't be so sure.
4 HarryGreek 2013-04-23
/r/conspiracy's problem is that they do not VISIT the site(s) claiming to be shopped or altered.
Boston, Sandy Hook - they are all accessible by redditors, yet, none of them head out to verify / confirm what some of their 'open minded discussions' are made up of.
This subreddit takes materials, from the very media they do not trust, and create a fervor over images that show something that is not what they claim it to be.
It's disturbing,... especially under the guise that redditors are looking to 'wake us up'.
3 bingbong77 2013-04-23
OH MY GOD!!!
WHAT SORCERY IS THIS?!!
0 anonagent 2013-04-23
It's called Photoshop, welcome to 1991...
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-10 MakesStuff_Up 2013-04-23
Yours isn't even a good example. The noise and sharpness levels on the area that was edited do not match the rest of the photo. This would be discovered by anyone with even a modest desire in debunking a photo.
http://imgur.com/Z9BdXP1
21 [deleted] 2013-04-23
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-19 MakesStuff_Up 2013-04-23
Those people aren't hanging out in r/conspiracy.
13 [deleted] 2013-04-23
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-14 MakesStuff_Up 2013-04-23
This thread is bad and you should feel bad.
7 [deleted] 2013-04-23
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7 reticentbias 2013-04-23
MakesStuff_Up, 5 day old account, probably a shill or conspiratard asshole. Don't even engage him. Just downvote and walk away.
2 NoHero3s 2013-04-23
With a good amount of karma for 5 days of work.
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1 [deleted] 2013-04-23
/r/conspiracy at its finest, demand evidence and then when you receive it exclaim that its photo shopped.
0 ggushea 2013-04-23
And if a professional looks at this would they not have some kind of skill or tool to find out it was manipulated?
2 NoHero3s 2013-04-23
Although the other user in this thread came off as a dick, he did make a decent example on how you could use the same software to highlight photo alterations.
http://i.imgur.com/Z9BdXP1.jpg
1 Reggaejunkiejew31 2013-04-23
I wouldn't need a tool to tell me that this photo was manipulated. It's poorly done.
1 ggushea 2013-04-23
Making this post redundant.
1 Reggaejunkiejew31 2013-04-23
and this one
1 ggushea 2013-04-23
I was commenting on the submission, not your cocomment.
-1 thepaulstalservice 2013-04-23
Similarly, it is extremely easy to edit a video and say- add an airplane into it, when there in fact wasn't one in the original footage, such as I demonstrated in this video
-19 MakesStuff_Up 2013-04-23
Those people aren't hanging out in r/conspiracy.
7 FEEEEED-MEEEEEE 2013-04-23
And that shit is HARD! Have you ever tried to overlay several negatives in a dark room to develop the picture you want? If you don't act fast (depending on your chemicals) you'll waste SOOOOOO much paper!!
-14 MakesStuff_Up 2013-04-23
This thread is bad and you should feel bad.
9 [deleted] 2013-04-23
Stalin, one of the most fascinating men to ever walk the planet, did a lot more than edit "people out of photographs". He edited people out of entire regions of the USSR. He also like to edit food out of their bellies.
Ultimately, alas, Stalin was without a loving matriarch.... his was unfortunately taken from him and his masculine spite consumed him (and his love for alcohol).