Looks like it was on a sidestreet between the two blocks.

http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3508/3463244489_a015efa1df_z.jpg

If that's the case, it would be pretty easy to fold it up and roll it away whenever they wanted.

ah, good find. seems way more portable after looking at this photo.

I walked past the truck the screen was built into two days prior to the race and I can confirm it's literally a screen attached to a truck. Very easily moved around + packed away.

Can you guide me to where this truck is in this picture

Packed up and driven away. The explosions were 2 hours after the first finishers had crossed.

http://www.jumbo.tv/gobig-mobile-video-screens.html

You are also responding to "paid-shill-jimmy". I wouldn't put too much trust into what he has to say.

who has also only been a redditor for two days...just sayin..

That was my immediate though and I agree.

My only afterthought is the shot from the OP link that appears to have been taken from the same location of the screen, showing the immediate aftermath of the bomb.

That would be someone from the window of that reddish brown brick building on the left of this pic, I think. You can actually see what looks like someone in the window from the other angle.

But is it the same one or is this a second big screen? Because at these type of events there are usually more than 1 big screens, so was the one moved or were there two or more to begin with?

And second why was it moved if it was indeed moved?

Based on the buildings, same one. It makes sense that they'd remove it. It was showing a feed from whoever broadcast the event. By the time the bombs went off, the winners were long, LONG gone. Marathons are generally only televised until the mens and womens notables and winners are finished.

Correct. Look at this post of the google street view. However he thinks it is still there just rotated and dropped.

It's not the question whether it's easy or not. The question is why would they do it in the middle of a race? And why would they photoshop?

The professionals cross the line after 2.5 hrs or so, and then the rest of the amateurs will be crossing the line up to 8 hours after the start of the race. There has to be a cutoff point where it's no longer worthwhile to have a big screen setup and using power.

whenever who wanted? who is the company that owns that sign and is responsible for taking it up and down?

speculation. anyway this is a non-issue. clearly actors were involved and the scene was staged. patsies were executed.

I have worked in an industry that involves rigging and de-rigging. De-rigging can be done amazingly fast, whatcould take and hour to put up could be packed away in 5 minutes, depending if your getting paid overtime or not.

Not sure on the timescale we are looking at for the big screen though

But would they actually take it down in the middle of the event with crowds all around?

If it has no use and is safe to do so than yes

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I didn't say anything to the contary. Just answered the question

Plus, they may not want or be able to pay the live camera crew to shoot for the whole span of several hours from the first person crossing the finish line to the very last ones. And as far as I know, the attack happened a fair time after the winner crossed the line, right?

But that's just be an idea as to why they may not keep the screen up until the end of the race.

"Cities largest event"- goes budget on the camera crew and sponsors don't want advertising during the whole race?

You think so? All the best and notable runners had finished the marathon hours before the bombs went off.. Do you think they are going to pay someone to film your neighbor til they cross the finish line? They probably thought like any other company, they didn't want to spend more money on labor..

this is the part i can't figure out. i really want to believe this is what happened but i'd like to be able to confirm/explain it.

super long shot, but maybe someone viewing this will know something about the company contracted to provide the screen? or maybe someone knows an employee of said company who could either confirm or deny?

It looks like the screen was covering the lead runners. The pictures of when it's up for instance are when the lead female runner was finishing. The bombing took place two hours after the lead runners finished, I'm assuming by that time the camera crews covering the race had largely packed up and there wasn't anything for them to be showing really so they had taken it down because there was no reason to keep it up with no video feed to show.

If it is an international event, it would make sense for it only to be there for the leading runners. Amateurs would complete the marathon in four extra hours, that is an expense by the organising committee that is not warranted.

The marathon organizers are in business with the companies that want advertising that is always shown on the big screen. Those advertising companies would likely be scheduled for the entire event rather than only the first quarter, though.

That is a good point too.

I know cameras were still rolling when the bombs went off, was it still being televised live. Or was it more b-roll? It might be that the board was in,y up for the live telecast, who knows.

yes, easily. First hand experience. We set up stuff like that around 1000 and take it down its folding

I'm not asking if it's possible, I'm questioning if they would do that.

I've also done this kind of work and have worked with those screens. They're on trailers and go up and down in minutes.

They're rental units. I'm sure that after the major runners finished they pulled it down and left.

hmm, wish camping tents worked in the same fashion

This is the real conspiracy ^

This is an interesting one! Here is what I've got.

Here is a high res image of the area post explosion

Here is google street view of what the building typically looks like

In the first image you can clearly see the tower used to support the screen still standing and if you compare the two images side by side it appears the screen has been rotated 180 degrees and lowered for whatever reason.

Edit: redditor Fazookus pointed out that the 5K race was the day before as seen here

So there was a day between the two images.

GREAT POST!!

Thank you!

That's the other side of the screen, I think you've nailed it.

Of course having someone in the Boston area contact the local marathon committee to find out where the display was leased from and then contacting the lessor and just asking them would violate the spirit of /r/conspiracy.

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maybe to block the view from a certain angle of the bomb site?

lol clutching at straws buddy

Better then giving people shit for coming up with alternative ideas. GFY

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Any reply to you means I can't post for 10 minutes, I forgot your dirty tactics.

LOL

never mind. Any reply to you means I can't post for 10 minutes, I forgot your dirty tactics.

What?

You can't see his legs in ANY of the pictures, but yeah! You proved it to us!!)

That's off topic but here they are

His account is only two days old and he already has negative karma, Reddit penalizes that sort of thing. Also /r/conspiracy can get yucky, case in point.

Do me a favor, do you see two time indicators in those pictures? I'm thinking someone mixed up two different years.

i personally like how his comments were deleted

reddit taking care of itself or something else..

That's what I thought at first but you can see the tower in the post blase pic I linked to. It looks like they had taken it down sometime between the pics.

Do you agree that there are two time indicators over the yellow finish line, one says "5K", the other has more text.

Yes, I saw that and that's where I started researching. However, the post blast image shows the monitor tower so we know it was there during the current race.

Yeah, the "5K" was for the 5K race the day before... oopsie.

And there we have it!

Confirmed

this picture does not show his legs, in fact it is such perfect camouflage it raises suspicion into why it was chosen

Do you believe that his employer, Costco as well as his family and friends are in on the conspiracy?

not hard to write a letter, how many people do you suppose know the guy... personally?

post from user/trailerparkboi that was deleted....

This is an interesting one! Here is what I've got.

Here is a high res image of the area post explosion

Here is google street view of what the building typically looks like

In the first image you can clearly see the tower used to support the screen still standing and if you compare the two images side by side it appears the screen has been rotated 180 degrees and lowered for whatever reason.

Edit: redditor Fazookus pointed out that the 5K race was the day before as seen here

So there was a day between the two images.

you fucking shill, holyshit

How am I a shill? Do you disagree with anything I posted? Are you suggesting I had anything to do with his post being deleted?

Laff... only the truest of true believers aren't shills these days, apparently.

I do like the way the post that precedes yours outs 'trailerparkboi' though, I hate serial deleters.

You do realize that by outing trailerparkboi you've invited any actual shills to go and downvote him, right?

he didn't delete it himself

...mods? I thought /r/conspiracy was a pretty open place (?).

Yup! That's his legs, hidden behind a sign, in pants.

Thanks for proving my point, shill! Either post real proof (of his legs below the knee -- anyone can hide prosthetics under pants.)

But you and I already know this. Move on, New Yurk, so I can follow and call out your shilling.

There is a reason you have negative 92 upvotes trailerparkboi, redditor for 2 days.

Yes. It is because I counter-post the Idiot Brigade you must be in charge of.

You think I care about imaginary internet points? Hahaha. Stupid shill.

http://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/1d3qaa/a_new_tool_in_the_battle_against_the_trolls_your/

I will second that, he is a fucking double agent prick.

Who is the sponsor on the monitor frame? Could ask them how long the monitor was meant to be up there. I'm guessing there would be contracts for that sort of thing and they would want their name up there for as long as possible ie. not taken down before the race ends.

John Hancock. Same as the sponsor of the marathon itself

It's Herbie!

Looks to be on a street between the two blocks. I'm actually guessing it was still there and the angle of the photos means you don't see it. I mean I hate to be giving a simple explanation, but I believe that's the correct one.

Alternatively, and I believe less likely, they moved it between the time the race was won and the time the bombs went off. I imagine they point of the monitor was to give a live feed of the race, and once everyone's coming in for the finish you don't need the monitor to do that any longer.

Sorry for not offering up conspiracy-friendly theories.

But the race wasn't over? http://i.imgur.com/62NfWvJ.jpg. That's a whole lot of race left.

Exactly. One of those people could end up winning and then there wouldn't be any screen to show their picture up on.

So this race was just about the winner? That's a whole lot of trouble and expense to go through to just show the winners. It's my understanding that this race is run in waves.

Mobility Impaired 9:00 a.m.
Wheelchair Division 9:17 a.m.
Handcycles 9:22 a.m.
Elite Women 9:32 a.m.
Elite Men & Wave One 10:00 a.m.
Wave Two 10:20 a.m.
Wave Three 10:40 a.m.
Awards Ceremony* 5:00 p.m.

That's kind of stupid to put up a billboard size monitor for only the first place winners.

You're getting downvoted because you're thinking progressively. Ignore the downvoters. You are on point with that, there's no race anywhere on earth where they only keep the big screen up for the first quarter of the race. People and their families will fly from across the world to compete in the event and their family watching them would want to see them on the big screen. It's not fair to the people that want to see how their family members are doing in the race. It just doesn't make sense to exclude the other people.

Exactly. Just because you weren't one of the elite runners that doesn't mean you couldn't have won it.

Sometimes the favorites don't win. And when that happens, when the local middle-aged dad running for charity smashes the world record, we're supposed to believe the TV wouldn't want to show him up on the big screen?

Come on.

So you're telling me that the only reason anybody would want to watch the race, is to see the winner? That makes no sense whatsoever. If they paid that much money for a huge screen, why take it down mid-race? It's not about the winner, it's simply about watching the race.

No I'm not saying that at all. I agree with you that something's fishy.

On marathon day Boston TV stations show uninterrupted coverage until the last person has crossed the finish line.

To tell you the truth the people finishing at the end are a helluva lot more interesting to watch then the so-called 'elites'. Sometimes they shit themselves.

Haha! Thank you for having a little bit of humor. I actually don't think anything is fishy about the monitor itself, I just question the timing of taking it down. It seems a little dangerous to take a huge screen like that down, with a couple hundred people milling around, while the race is still in progress.

Well I know absolutely nothing about how they take that monitor down or how much it costs per hour to keep it up and running or how much it costs to pay the support staff that have to man it while it's up, but I do know that something is definitely fishy here.

They wouldn't take it down. No marathon on Earth puts the big screen up for a quarter of the race. The entire race is being filmed and shown to the world, not just the first quarter.

It's a lot of money....

What divisions of the Boston Marathon will receive prize money and how much is at stake? A: A prize money total of $806,000 is awarded in equal amounts to men and women as follows:

Top 15 men and women ($150,000 for first place to $1,500 for 15th place, for a total of $353,000 each for men and women).

Top 5 men and women in the 40-and-over division ($10,000 for first place to $1,000 for 5th place, for a total of $20,000 each for men and women).

Top 10 men and women in the wheelchair division ($15,000 for first place to $500 for 10th place, for a total of $30,000 each for men and women).

You have no idea how races work, do you?

It's not that hard of a concept. What am I missing?

Re: the missing screen, the elite runners will be HOURS before everyone else hence the empty streets. The bombs went off at the almost 4 hour mark and these elite runners were at the 2 hour mark. I had a friend about 100m from the finish line and his gf had just crossed so that is the timing of an 'average' runner....

There is plenty of time to take down the screen showing the elite runners in that time span. I can ask him if he recalls a screen being up when he was almost to the finish line but he is pretty traumatized and hasn't been interested in talking about what happened...

I am open to many of the theories about the bombing, I'm just trying to stick to the facts around the missing screen.

I also would think that the advertisers advertising on the screen would have a contract that would keep their advertisements up for the entire marathon.

No one is going to pay for a film crew to film your neighbor finishing the race 3 hours after the elite runners are done.

The film crew is working throughout the entire marathon.

What makes me perk up is the photos originating from where the monitor should have been...

Dismantled... Makes you wonder why the bombers waited an extra two hours... If they wanted to demonstrate a 'show'! Sooner would surely have had more impact?

The bombing happened at roughly the average finish time of the previous years marathon.

The bombing happened at roughly the average finish time of the previous years marathon.

I walked by there the Saturday before the bombing, the screen was on a big truck looked like it could easily be folded up and driven away.

yet another post pointing out some phantom "inconsistency". just like the 2 Craft ops w/ backpacks, crisis actor, specifically the guy with no legs, etc...

yeah i updated the post, i didn't realize how portable the sign was, and the fact that it was in some footage and not others made zero sense to me. i'm good now.

ya, np... i got no problem with all this speculation about the events... despite this anti-reddit theme going on in the MSM... but, i used to do the same thing as well... post things too early in the process and just add needles confusion over a developing event..

peace

I don't understand the significance of this screen or this post or why its bothering you. Does it really matter whether it was there or not?

Because it could be a massive hologram projector. Duh.

Someone on that link mentioned something about the 2012 race... if the pictures are from two different races that would explain it.

Can't seem to find pictures from the 2012 race, drat.

Edit: There's two different time indicators in those pictures... one says "5K", the other has more text at the bottom.

it is all definitely from the 2013 race, last monday.

look at the pic of the girl bursting thru the finish line, it clearly says Boston Marathon 2013 on the finishing ribbon she breaks thru.

the next pic is obviously taken a second later, and you can clearly see the huge screen behind her in the background.

FACT: the screen was still up when this woman finished the race. the screen is nowhere to be seen during bombing footage. anyone know what time she finished the race? will give us an exact time window of when the sign must have been taken down....

There's a time display above the yellow finish line... but there are two different time displays.

There are two different time displays in those pictures, both above the finish line.

Here's one, here's the other.

Maybe I'm missing something here.

Moment of the blast, clearly the same timer board as in the first pic... And the second pic clearly shows evidence of being the 2013 marathon (number on the finish line, year on a banner off to the right).

So I'm not sure what's up with the "5K" timer.

edit: Oh, duh. Because pic 2 in your post isn't the marathon. It's the day before, when they hold the Boston Athletic Association 5K run.

http://www.bostonglobe.com/rf/image_r/Boston/2011-2020/2013/04/14/BostonGlobe.com/Sports/Images/C58C4236.r.jpg

Thanks! Although that picture was mixed in with the OPs post of the marathon, you can see how it could be confusing.

Yeah it had me for a moment there, as well.

as you can see, even i was beyond confused. i just went ahead and assumed both races were ran on the 15th and had different timer boards. i wasn't even sure what you were getting at initially, but it's obvious you were right. good catch homie.

if you find this information out please OP post it in your title summary

There was a bomb drill that was going on during the marathon, so maybe they had to take it down because of this. I'm only speculating. It is a bit weird that a bomb drill is going on the exact same day the bombings happened.

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oh, CONSPIRACY! your post was removed.

it's still there. I can go to it. Can you?

No

GarrioValere pointed out that the "5K" was from a 5K race the day before, he's right.

Never mind...

There are two different races in these pictures. The one that has "5K" under the time indicator shows that the top big monitor is just above the top of the third story windows, the picture that has additional text under the time indicator shows the top of the big monitor right under the bottom os the fourth story windows.

Maybe that could be parallax given the two different camera locations but if it is parallax it means that the big monitor isn't mounted on the building, it would be some distance away.

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It is always very windy on Boylston st. It wouldn't surprise me of it had to be taken down so it wouldn't blow over.

Something that portable could have possibly been knocked over by the concussive forces of the bomb.

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A 4th grader with photoshop knows to include a shadow. You're really grasping at straws here.

Thats why i ended with a question. I don't know sit about photoshop, so i thought i'd throw that out there, as an extreeeeeeme lay examination.

If you generally accept the premise of what transpired in Boston, then why are you trying so hard to find a conspiracy amongst these events? Sounds like you're on Alex Jones's payroll to me! Haha

lol

I have seen a time lapse video of the bombing from a good angle. Only can find the video from the bombing and after. Wonder if there is footage of the entire race?

Their main picture evidence doesn't acknowledge that the building with the monitor on it is not shown in their "monitor missing picture."

The building with the monitor on the side would have been the next building just to the right out of the frame. Just compare the building faces. Theres a red building with a white outcrop thing 2nd to the right on the "photoshopped picture" but on the "real" picture its 5 buildings down.

Come on guys. Lets use our brains.

"monitor missing picture"????

you are focusing on the wrong thing my friend. forget the picture...

the monitor is missing from any and all explosion/post explosion footage

Not more than 20 min to take that screen down, I am telling you from first hand experience. Can be done even faster if you have more than 3 people on it.

What is to explain about a movable screen being moved?

Keep in mind that very little of what you see on the internet is source worthy material. With photoshop and a malicious intent both conspirators and nuts bend the truth.

Footage from the scene has reminded me a lot of these special effects reels. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dN0rAIzAalw&list=UU8HdHj3uYD_1UdVeuf5BGCA&index=11

What the fuck .. this makes absolutely ZERO sense. There is no correlation between the greenscreen vid and the ones from the marathon, except the weak, unproven link you're trying to provide.

Care to expand on WHY you make such a claim?

No connection. Just watching effects reels like that make me question eye-witness footage.

Seeing those chat bots reminds me of you.

Cool Runnings mahn.

http://www.cluesforum.info/download/file.php?id=6

(not a download, just a picture.)

I've hooked up a VCR, DVD, and Cable box in under 4 minutes. So....yeah, it can be done quickly.

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thanks for your reply, it has added a lot of insight to the thread.

As much insight as the thread deserves, I think.

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So, typical conspiratard then?

Exactly. One of those people could end up winning and then there wouldn't be any screen to show their picture up on.

That's what I thought at first but you can see the tower in the post blase pic I linked to. It looks like they had taken it down sometime between the pics.

You have no idea how races work, do you?

i personally like how his comments were deleted

reddit taking care of itself or something else..