Gun Grabbing in Boston Met With Resistance

270  2013-04-30 by [deleted]

BOSTON - National guard units seeking to confiscate a cache of recently banned assault weapons were ambushed on April 19th by elements of a para-military extremist faction. Military and law enforcement sources estimate that 72 were killed and more than 200 injured before government forces were compelled to withdraw.

Speaking after the clash Massachusetts Governor Thomas Gage declared that the extremist faction, which was made up of local citizens, has links to the radical right-wing tax protest movement. Gage blamed the extremists for recent incidents of vandalism directed against internal revenue offices. The governor, who described the group's organizers as "criminals," issued an executive order authorizing the summary arrest of any individual who has interfered with the government's efforts to secure law and order. The military raid on the extremist arsenal followed wide-spread refusal by the local citizenry to turn over recently outlawed assault weapons.

Gage issued a ban on military-style assault weapons and ammunition earlier in the week. This decision followed a meeting in early this month between government and military leaders at which the governor authorized the forcible confiscation of illegal arms.

One government official, speaking on condition of anonymity, pointed out that "none of these people would have been killed had the extremists obeyed the law and turned over their weapons voluntarily."

Government troops initially succeeded in confiscating a large supply of outlawed weapons and ammunition. However, troops attempting to seize arms and ammunition in Lexington met with resistance from heavily-armed extremists who had been tipped off regarding the government's plans. During a tense standoff in Lexington's town park, National Guard Colonel Francis Smith, commander of the government operation, ordered the armed group to surrender and return to their homes. The impasse was broken by a single shot, which was reportedly fired by one of the right-wing extremists. Eight civilians were killed in the ensuing exchange. Ironically, the local citizenry blamed government forces rather than the extremists for the civilian deaths. Before order could be restored, armed citizens from surrounding areas had descended upon the guard units.

Colonel Smith, finding his forces overmatched by the armed mob, ordered a retreat. Governor Gage has called upon citizens to support the state/national joint task force in its effort to restore law and order. The governor also demanded the surrender of those responsible for planning and leading the attack against the government troops. Samuel Adams, Paul Revere, and John Hancock, who have been identified as "ringleaders" of the extremist faction, remain at large.

April 20, 1775

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2013 April 19th Boston lockdown. Don't they just love the game.

Numbers are very important to them. Remember that.

Who is them?

A blast from the past. Good one too.

You had me fired up, ready to go do more research and shout from the roof tops. Sadly this is what it is coming too tho, this will be the future of the US...

If that was going on today- the time was well the fuck past shouting from the rooftops.

While reading this I thought, "well shit I guess history is repeating itself already." it's only a matter of time before this becomes true though. Unless all the military has a sudden realization.

Let's face it. You nuts want shit like this to happen.

I can't talk for all but I personally do NOT want this to happen. The sad fact is this is where we are headed. Gun control, unfair taxation, the police state starting are just the beginning of what is to come in my eye. Logic is my reason, open your eyes and see what is happening to our country/world... It's in plain sight...

You seem like a decent gentleman, who is genuinely concerned though. There are plenty, on the other hand, who seem to sit at their PC waiting for some "event" to happen.

Agreed, there are many that will sit and watch, just as they do with their favorite TV shows. I do wonder how many really look at things happening and think, "Wow, the writers of 24 are getting really good."

Thanks for the compliment as well and same goes back to you sir. Have a great day! (or try to at least).

Thanks man, enjoyed the conversation.

You have a great day too.

3%

"Roughly three percent of the population fought for liberty at any given time during the American war for Independence. With a colonial population of 2,500,000 to 3,000,000 only about 250,000 men served during the war with never more than 90,000 men serving at any given time."

"Historians have estimated that approximately 40-45% of the colonists supported the rebellion while 15-20% of the population of the thirteen colonies remained loyal to the British Crown. The remaining 35-45% attempted to remain neutral."

http://threepercenter.org/read.php?4,8

Give me liberty or give me death.

Unfortunately, Britain was overwhelmed by wars at home to be concerned with the colonies. I say unfortunately because that is not the case with the current situation. However I do believe that we have more than 3% on our side

Also France did kick in to support the U.S. Not because they were interested in an alliance, as I am sure they desperately desired these lands as well, but instead to attempt to crush their enemy closer to home in Europe, England.

Did you know - many of us would not have supported the revolutionaries in that war, either?

elaborate

Britain and its colonies had a war with france. Colonies secure and safe. Britain wants some tax money to pay the war debt it has accrued. Colonists say no. Revolution. I wouldn't have supported them. Good on the loyalists (I guess... the actual patriots?)

However, what became of the revolution, a government run by the people for the people, was good. And I would have supported that. But let's be real, the revolution was stirred up because the colonists wanted to have their cake - defense against the French - and eat it too - not pay their tax share and leave Britain with an enormous war debt to pay by itself. I doubt that at the beginning it had anything to do with high minded ideals of throwing off the divine right of the monarchy.

It's arguable that if the events of the 1700s were to happen now, our high speed communication would have allowed the colonists to have representation within parliament, and likely would not have led to revolt. Taxation without representation isn't the way things should be run. So I do have some support for the colonists there.

Regardless, the government isn't ran by or for the people anymore. So unless we can do something, the entire revolutionary episode would have been for naught.

More here

bravo!

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booooo that man!

That's freakin awesome!

This is exactly how it would have been reported in our MSM.

YESS!! That was one of the funnest reddit posts I've come upon. Well done, Friend! I may post that on my fb page actually. =)

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Either you are joking or you need to work on your reading comprehension.

i guess it was tl;dr for him

This was written almost 250 years ago.

It was not written 250 years ago. The author has melded contemporary language into a hybrid article based on events from 250 years ago.

I was trying to confuse him.

nice save

:)

oh shit i just read the beginning and stopped because i wanted a citation.

Boss level post.

Well to be fair, no one would have been killed if the extremists obeyed the law and didn't kill anyone.

I thought that was pretty funny...

420 blaze it faggot

Back in the days when civilian weaponry could even hope to stand a chance to government arms.

don't think that we don't stand a chance. people said the same thing about al qaeda and the taliban. they can't stand a chance against us with ak47s and rpgs. but they are still giving us hell over there. russia couldn't beat them in the 80's and we still can't now. we have the most heavily armed civilian population in the world. if it came down to it we would put up one hell of a fight.

Or maybe the point isn't to win.

And a completely different culture. Afghans have been doing Guerrilla warfare for 2500 years, it's pretty ingrained. Americans don't have anywhere near that level of training.

speak for yourself.

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And that's part of why they're trying so hard to take them away.

Have you seen Afghani fighters in action? Half of them don't even care if they die.

It all boils down to getting out of your comfort zone.

I have seen Americans that you could say the same about

Which is the point. That's why they're the best.

Lots of us have fought against the afghans for many years... Don't forget that

Good job. Still losing huh?

I won in my areas of operation. I'm still here to argue with you about it. American veterans would make fantastic guerilla warfare soldiers. Training you say?! Insurgents are not going to Ranger School or taking EMT classes. They are "winning" because they blend in with the population and use their environment to their advantage. Exactly what we would do at home.

The reports would be hysterical to read, following a person down the street only to be ambushed from peoples houses.

Yeah, the only way for them to win with as little casualties as possible is to take away our guns as slowly as possible.

Looks like it's chess after all.

IED's and ambushes would be damn near unstoppable. I'll take a 12 man squad any day of the week against police convoys and dismounts. Use the element of surprise and disperse into the public. Man, shit would have to be going down for our country to be like that.

I hope shit never goes down. We know what problems exist, and we have the fucking solutions.

All they have to do is fix our problems, but nope, they're greedy mother fuckers and they don't give a damn about anybody but themselves.

All they have to do is fix our problems

That way of thinking is what has landed us where we are. The people don't want to fix problems. We have willingly given up our ability to do so by giving our government more power so they can do it for us. We have to get the people to take on more responsibility in order to stop the abuse of power by the few.

Dude it's called I do want to fix the problems, and to do this we created a government.

That government is currently NOT representing us, therefore they are creating problems and not fixing problems that they KNOW exist.

I want them to fix my problems via the democratic process, like legalizing marijuana which would fix a lot of problems.

Ending private prisons would fix a lot of problems.

Raising minimum wage would fix a lot of problems.

My point is that we are TRYING to get them to fix our problems, I call their fucking offices all the times ( my reps and others ) and all I get is a fucking answering machine or some fucking intern that's going to "write down my message and give it to them so they can read it" ( yeah right ).

My point is that they KNOW what problems exist, just as we do, yet they do nothing about it.

We the people call them, urge them, rally in the streets, yet they ignore us.

What more is there for us to do?

Run for office. I've been seriously considering running for congress. I believe if I can convince people I'm not like the rest, and get the non-voters to vote for me, I could make real changes. Or at least, be in a better position to do so.

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"Fake" story? <facepalm>

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I for one thought the "<sarcasm off>" meant the comment was not sarcastic. In 8 years I've never seen that used here . Redditors are used to seeing "/s" to show sarcasm. Easier to type too.

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You must be new here...

You don't deserve to know why, but I downvoted you because you literally wrote "<sarcasm off>" and you think there's nothing wrong with that.

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I downvote those people, too. If you have to explicitly state the tone of what you're trying to convey, then you're not doing a good job of conveying it, are you?

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Sarcasm! Found it! This is definitely sarcasm! Over here!!!

Your problem is that you are too comfortable posting that you think it is funny/cute to add a nonverbal conversation cue to text.

...No.

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whoops sorry

Who let the uneducated middleschoolers back into this sub?

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Not according to the tallies. I suspect that your depravity of character and lack of intellect are likely mirrored in real life.

*You're

Really?

In accurate and inappropriate

don't think that we don't stand a chance. people said the same thing about al qaeda and the taliban. they can't stand a chance against us with ak47s and rpgs. but they are still giving us hell over there. russia couldn't beat them in the 80's and we still can't now. we have the most heavily armed civilian population in the world. if it came down to it we would put up one hell of a fight.

And a completely different culture. Afghans have been doing Guerrilla warfare for 2500 years, it's pretty ingrained. Americans don't have anywhere near that level of training.

I can't talk for all but I personally do NOT want this to happen. The sad fact is this is where we are headed. Gun control, unfair taxation, the police state starting are just the beginning of what is to come in my eye. Logic is my reason, open your eyes and see what is happening to our country/world... It's in plain sight...

Or maybe the point isn't to win.

Dude it's called I do want to fix the problems, and to do this we created a government.

That government is currently NOT representing us, therefore they are creating problems and not fixing problems that they KNOW exist.

I want them to fix my problems via the democratic process, like legalizing marijuana which would fix a lot of problems.

Ending private prisons would fix a lot of problems.

Raising minimum wage would fix a lot of problems.

My point is that we are TRYING to get them to fix our problems, I call their fucking offices all the times ( my reps and others ) and all I get is a fucking answering machine or some fucking intern that's going to "write down my message and give it to them so they can read it" ( yeah right ).

My point is that they KNOW what problems exist, just as we do, yet they do nothing about it.

We the people call them, urge them, rally in the streets, yet they ignore us.

What more is there for us to do?