In the Cleveland kidnapping case the flag outside the home mysteriously changes from American to Puerto Rican.

19  2013-05-07 by [deleted]

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I'm actually not sure which one came first but WTF?

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Two flags on one pole, one Puerto Rican and one American. Just a guess but it seems like a lot of trouble to shop the flag in such a short period of time. Two flags is more likely and you can see two flags in one of the photographs.

Yea but in the other pics I posted it shows that there isn't two flags. I showed it from both angles.

I swear I saw the two flags flapping in the background of one of the Charles Ramsey videos. I can't find it... I am slightly disturbed by this discrepancy between my memory and the most readily available documentation but like u/Maldavos said, it's a lot of work really fast. A lot of the top searches on youtube (reddit search is shit and I'm not willing to find that original thread) seem to be more cropped than the first version I saw. Why could that be? The guy right behind Ramsey in the un-cropped version with the "[I'd tell you about my dick but it's a long story]" and "[I'm not the right guy but I'll fuck you until he comes along]" jacket? Prudery seems the most likely reason for any censorship.

What else would be the motive? To prevent Puerto Rico from becoming a state despite the fact that they've voted to become one? I think something as subtle as a flag switch wouldn't change anyone's mind on an issue that's already as back-burnered as that.

EDIT: Maybe two flags one pole? I feel like I'm coming across as a government shill.

I don't think this event is part of some sort of govt anything....but the flag thing is just weird. Don't make no kinda sense.

It's weird. I agree and thank you for pointing it out. Even though I think that 2 flags one pole is an insult to both flags it seems like a likely explanation.

It has the Puerto Rican flag printed on the right side and the American flag printed on the left side. It is on 1 pole. You can see them both in this video at 0:15>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=hmqj8V0_hBI#!

aha! Mystery solved

Good work gang

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Oh my....

And the guy was a school bus driver, and friends with one of the girl's families, and had kids of his own. Fucking sick!

You know my son's school bus driver is a 60 something year old cranky ass man. I always wonder who the hell signs up to drive a bunch of noisy ungrateful kids around all day. When I was a kid my bus drivers were all women and had kids of their own and I guess it just made sense.

I just wonder what makes a middle aged man what to do such a job? Creeps me out.

the economy.

What are you talking about? A school bus driver makes good money with great benefits from the city.

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Upvote for honesty.

Unfortunately, its bias and stereotyping like yours, OP, that grants me evil looks from random strangers when I take my baby daughter to the park by myself.

So kindly, fuck you.

I am not a creep, nor do i want to be labelled one because I am a man and have a small child with me. Its fucking backwards thinking and only serves to continue the decline of our society via distrust and eventual hatred towards others. Remember the old saying "united we stand, divided we fall?" Welcome to the divide..

Who the heck looks at you funny for playing with your kid? Maybe your just paranoid.

Yes, that must be it. /facepalm

Other than the obviousness of "the media is fucking with our perception of the issue," whats the big deal?

They've done this since the beginning and will continue to till the end.

Remember this?

It's not a big deal at all. Just weird.

Where did you get the pic of the house with the american flag up?

edit: I'm wondering since this is after police have been there, since there is no police tape, officers still investigating. That or it was before the bust ever happened.

My guess would be someone put the american flag there after the police cleared out.

Interesting, thats pretty weird. Is there any way to pull the time these photos were taken? Not sure how EXIF data works exactly.

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Do you know if it is possible to pull exif data from these? I am not familiar with photography at all.

I tried and there isn't any. I have found most pics do not contain this data. All you do is: save the file - right click - properties.

Well that is good to know for the future, I always assumed you needed some program of some sort. I'm still putting my money on a neighbor or someone switching it out.

This article I just read on CNN states there is a Puerto Rican flag hanging outside the house. Very interesting that it is now an American flag.

They are 2 different houses. The power hook ups are in different places and the porch banisters are different.

No somewhere here dude linked to the video. It's a two sided flag. You can see clearly when the wind blows it.

Actually in this image it looks like the Puerto Rican flag is still there but on the other side, you can see the difference in stripes hanging down.

But here, from the angle you would expect to see the Puerto Rican flag, there isn't one anymore.

Non-issue. Next item please.