Republican as in you align yourself with the republican party (warrentless surveillance, war under false pretenses, reckless spending, banker bailouts, protecting corporate interests etc.)?
I don't care what religion/race/etc. you are - but are you trying to say that you are a Zionist (I know some anti-Zionist Jews, so I have to ask)
Republican as in I believe in a strong national defense, wanting the Gold Standard, spending under control, the Constitution followed to the letter, wars ONLY with Congressional approval (not executive action by either party), the closest thing to Laissez Faire we can get while still protecting workers from physical harm (meaning the gov't and the corporations have NO monetary interaction).
And Jewish as in I notice that a lot of conspiracies involve Jews being responsible for a lot of shit. I am non practicing, but I stand up for my heritage. 17 and not Bar Mitzvahed or anything, just an appreciation to my heritage.
Nearly everything this subreddit 'exposes' has something to do with Jews, and I don't like that. The question you pose is equivalent to me asking you why you might defend your grandparents in an argument, they may not share your opinion, but they are people of your kind. Sure I dissent with Jewish morals as I am non practicing, but I defend their rights.
This is false, and pure bullshit. There is very little anti-semetic rhetoric occurring in this subreddit these days, but you are clearly trying to provoke people with comments like these.
There is no goddamn "jew" conspiracy and everyone knows it. Please stop playing the victim.
As a conspiracy theorist, how can I have an issue with that?
If you are a Zionist, we could perhaps discuss Israel, although it is my least favorite topic to discuss because it gets so emotional... But your Libertarian leanings make you a perfect fit for this subreddit.
I hate to think of Jews being alienated by certain people on this subreddit. There is something going on with Zionist Jews in control of certain positions of power in the US, but this is a Zionist conspiracy and not a Jewish conspiracy... It is ridiculous to equate the Zionist elite in with the rest of the Jews... it is like throwing people like you and me in with the Neocons just because we live in America.
Sorry I can't confront you... good luck finding an argument somewhere :)
Yes and yes. I go to military school, and though I'd rather not go Army, I would do National Guard. And yes, it is the most important thing we spend our money on.
Wait. You think that the ludicrous amount of money that the United States (hell, the entire world) spends on "defense" could not be better spent on, say, education? Or how about bringing the third world up to modern society, with things as basic as plumbing and clean water and electricity? You know, the things you have taken for granted for the short duration you have led this privileged life.
The truth is, if we cut our "defense" spending just by a small percentage, we would be able to do all of these things and more. Wargames are NOT the solution.
Also I don't think anyone gives a shit that you're Jewish. Good job on having an imaginary friend, but that does not mean you are part of a global conspiracy. Theorists of the modern era see through the veil of anti-semitism, and understand that it is Zionism which is the enemy, and political Jewry has merely become a facade with which the elite protect themselves.
That being said, I hope you take something positive from this discussion, and start opening your eyes. You have likely been lied to and brainwashed your entire life by this corrupt system, and we need you desperately; not because you are special, but because you are human, and we are all a part of this together.
Until people stop chanting death to America and have the means to bring death to America, defense is the most important thing. I stated my religion as a means of instigation, nothing further. Wanna explain the Zionism thing?
That is really weird. I could have sworn I wrote a long comment in response to this and now it is gone, along with my post where I accused you of being a provocateur.
Government tells them what to have and makes sure they have it. They supply nothing. That's the point. The goal is to have companies take the initiative to protect their workers without a mandate. Not the world we live in now, but its what you work towards.
I like that question. I think that military grade contracts should be made with private companies. No government industries, just contracts, I personally feel that it is a valid place to put tax payer money towards. A tank that would be stationed stateside to defend us, not to be going on the offensive.
There are a lot of liberal Jews, but its rare to find one who won't support Israel at any cost. We go in different ways to support them. Liberal ones are, as liberals tend to be, stupid.
Government tells them what to have and makes sure they have it. They supply nothing. That's the point. The goal is to have companies take the initiative to protect their workers without a mandate. Not the world we live in now, but its what you work towards.
There are a lot of liberal Jews, but its rare to find one who won't support Israel at any cost. We go in different ways to support them. Liberal ones are, as liberals tend to be, stupid.
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4 xenoglossus 2013-06-12
Hate to call it, but this kid is either a troll or an agent provocateur. Move along everyone.
-1 TheSaintBernard 2013-06-12
The latter
3 [deleted] 2013-06-12
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2 Balthanos 2013-06-12
Agreed.
-1 TheSaintBernard 2013-06-12
Duh and/or hello?
2 [deleted] 2013-06-12
Republican as in you align yourself with the republican party (warrentless surveillance, war under false pretenses, reckless spending, banker bailouts, protecting corporate interests etc.)?
I don't care what religion/race/etc. you are - but are you trying to say that you are a Zionist (I know some anti-Zionist Jews, so I have to ask)
0 TheSaintBernard 2013-06-12
Republican as in I believe in a strong national defense, wanting the Gold Standard, spending under control, the Constitution followed to the letter, wars ONLY with Congressional approval (not executive action by either party), the closest thing to Laissez Faire we can get while still protecting workers from physical harm (meaning the gov't and the corporations have NO monetary interaction). And Jewish as in I notice that a lot of conspiracies involve Jews being responsible for a lot of shit. I am non practicing, but I stand up for my heritage. 17 and not Bar Mitzvahed or anything, just an appreciation to my heritage.
2 [deleted] 2013-06-12
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-2 TheSaintBernard 2013-06-12
Nearly everything this subreddit 'exposes' has something to do with Jews, and I don't like that. The question you pose is equivalent to me asking you why you might defend your grandparents in an argument, they may not share your opinion, but they are people of your kind. Sure I dissent with Jewish morals as I am non practicing, but I defend their rights.
2 xenoglossus 2013-06-12
This is false, and pure bullshit. There is very little anti-semetic rhetoric occurring in this subreddit these days, but you are clearly trying to provoke people with comments like these.
There is no goddamn "jew" conspiracy and everyone knows it. Please stop playing the victim.
0 TheSaintBernard 2013-06-12
Look at the #2 thing posted on the front page of this Subreddit, it clearly includes us Jews
1 [deleted] 2013-06-12
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-1 TheSaintBernard 2013-06-12
Hamas, the Front Page, Hezbollah, Mr. Ahmadinejad, Hitler, the Bolsheviks, Lenin, Stalin, and Martin Luther, to name a few.
2 Weltall82 2013-06-12
wow, a 17 year old non practicing jew is here to debate claims of zionist financial cabal parapolitical intrigue?!
must have so much truth and experience to share!
3 xenoglossus 2013-06-12
Yeah, this kid is delusional.
0 TheSaintBernard 2013-06-12
Not really.
2 [deleted] 2013-06-12
Dude - you are a Libertarian Jew...
As a conspiracy theorist, how can I have an issue with that?
If you are a Zionist, we could perhaps discuss Israel, although it is my least favorite topic to discuss because it gets so emotional... But your Libertarian leanings make you a perfect fit for this subreddit.
I hate to think of Jews being alienated by certain people on this subreddit. There is something going on with Zionist Jews in control of certain positions of power in the US, but this is a Zionist conspiracy and not a Jewish conspiracy... It is ridiculous to equate the Zionist elite in with the rest of the Jews... it is like throwing people like you and me in with the Neocons just because we live in America.
Sorry I can't confront you... good luck finding an argument somewhere :)
0 TheSaintBernard 2013-06-12
Give me your definition of a Zionist Jew, I'd like to compare it to mine.
0 moparornocar 2013-06-12
Would you volunteer yourself for national defense?
Do you think it is possible to keep up the same national defense we have now, and keep spending under control?
-1 TheSaintBernard 2013-06-12
Yes and yes. I go to military school, and though I'd rather not go Army, I would do National Guard. And yes, it is the most important thing we spend our money on.
2 xenoglossus 2013-06-12
Wait. You think that the ludicrous amount of money that the United States (hell, the entire world) spends on "defense" could not be better spent on, say, education? Or how about bringing the third world up to modern society, with things as basic as plumbing and clean water and electricity? You know, the things you have taken for granted for the short duration you have led this privileged life.
The truth is, if we cut our "defense" spending just by a small percentage, we would be able to do all of these things and more. Wargames are NOT the solution.
Also I don't think anyone gives a shit that you're Jewish. Good job on having an imaginary friend, but that does not mean you are part of a global conspiracy. Theorists of the modern era see through the veil of anti-semitism, and understand that it is Zionism which is the enemy, and political Jewry has merely become a facade with which the elite protect themselves.
That being said, I hope you take something positive from this discussion, and start opening your eyes. You have likely been lied to and brainwashed your entire life by this corrupt system, and we need you desperately; not because you are special, but because you are human, and we are all a part of this together.
-1 TheSaintBernard 2013-06-12
Until people stop chanting death to America and have the means to bring death to America, defense is the most important thing. I stated my religion as a means of instigation, nothing further. Wanna explain the Zionism thing?
1 xenoglossus 2013-06-12
That is really weird. I could have sworn I wrote a long comment in response to this and now it is gone, along with my post where I accused you of being a provocateur.
0 moparornocar 2013-06-12
I guess I disagree that that is the most important thing to spend our money on.
-1 TheSaintBernard 2013-06-12
Domestic defense. I hate that we have troops stationed anywhere other than in submarines and stateside.
0 moparornocar 2013-06-12
I agree on that one. Would be nice to see less world policing going on.
0 moparornocar 2013-06-12
Is it possible for the govt to have all the equipment they have and would need without any sort of monetary interaction?
-1 TheSaintBernard 2013-06-12
Government tells them what to have and makes sure they have it. They supply nothing. That's the point. The goal is to have companies take the initiative to protect their workers without a mandate. Not the world we live in now, but its what you work towards.
0 moparornocar 2013-06-12
Who supplies the materials to build things such as tanks, who funds that?
-1 TheSaintBernard 2013-06-12
I like that question. I think that military grade contracts should be made with private companies. No government industries, just contracts, I personally feel that it is a valid place to put tax payer money towards. A tank that would be stationed stateside to defend us, not to be going on the offensive.
1 moparornocar 2013-06-12
What do you want to argue about?
1 oopsifarted 2013-06-12
I don't understand.
1 streetyouth 2013-06-12
why did you find it nessecary to bring up your faith
2 moparornocar 2013-06-12
Because Reddit is not really a Republican leaning site, so it would raise more responses.
That is how I see it.
0 TheSaintBernard 2013-06-12
Because, according to your front page, you theorists aren't on good terms with the Jews or the Republicans.
1 moparornocar 2013-06-12
Way to generalize.
According to a video I saw you Jews hate when people ride bikes in streets, and don't like women wearing short pants.
1 qmechan 2013-06-12
Why, WHY? WHY the hell would you be a Republican, brother?
1 TheSaintBernard 2013-06-12
Because I use my brain
1 qmechan 2013-06-12
You're going against, like, 90% of American Jews, man. Where's that coming from?
1 TheSaintBernard 2013-06-12
There are a lot of liberal Jews, but its rare to find one who won't support Israel at any cost. We go in different ways to support them. Liberal ones are, as liberals tend to be, stupid.
1 qmechan 2013-06-12
Careful now, let's not get into namecalling.
-1 TheSaintBernard 2013-06-12
Government tells them what to have and makes sure they have it. They supply nothing. That's the point. The goal is to have companies take the initiative to protect their workers without a mandate. Not the world we live in now, but its what you work towards.
1 TheSaintBernard 2013-06-12
There are a lot of liberal Jews, but its rare to find one who won't support Israel at any cost. We go in different ways to support them. Liberal ones are, as liberals tend to be, stupid.