We need a new political party , We need a TV station , We need radio slots , Commercials, News paper ads. Lets start this !

79  2013-07-07 by [deleted]

WAKE UP THE PUBLIC . We are the modern enlightenment . Modern defenders of freedom . We are fighting the good fight. I propose we take out message to the mainstream media . Use their own tools of oppression to end their oppression . We must UNITE under the AMERICAN flag , and wake up the people to the travesties of their "elected officials" . We must plant the seeds in the minds of John Q. America. And take the message of this subreddit to the airwaves . Hearts and Minds , I'm talking PR campaigning . We know we're in the right , If we can pool the resources of the Tea Party , and Occupy and other groups , we can truly institute peaceful social reform.

Who's with me ?

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The only thing that would work is unite people behind beliefs that are common throughout different groups and agree to ignore divisive issues for the time being.

  1. Government and big corporations work together. End the revolving door between Big Corporations and bureaucratic leadership.

  2. Absolutely no earmarks! No moving money under the radar and out of the public spotlight.

  3. Government agencies like the FDA, NSA, CIA, federal reserve, IRS etc. have become independent bodies. Leaders of those agencies need to be accountable to the people and not the bureaucracy. They need to be voted in as part of the democratic process, not appointed by the corrupt bureaucracy.

  4. Officials will be held to the same legal standards as every citizen. Leaders that lie to congress or the people must be tried in a public trial, just as citizens are.

  5. Government secrecy must no longer be used to cloak behavior that the citizens do not approve of. Government secrecy must not be used to cover illegal activity. Any violations must be tried in an open trial just as it would be for any citizen.

  6. The body of government that investigates illegal activity within government agencies must be elected by the people and not appointed by the bureaucracy that they are tasked to investigate. As of now there exists a conflict of interest because these positions are appointed.

These are examples of government corruption and abuse of power that most citizens want to resolve. Libertarians, Tea Party, Occupy, Liberals, and Conservatives all agree on these issues and want to end government corruption that is so rampant in our system. This is where we need to start. This needs to be our goal. Other issues that are divisive must be ignored for the time being if we ever want to reform our system. Coming together on these issues and these alone will give us the numbers and power to actually stand against the power and money of those that would keep us divided. Only when the government-corporation bond of corruption, secrecy, and abuse is broken can we the people reshape the system so that it is fair and controlled by us.

They keep us divided and fighting amongst ourselves , a divided populace is a weak populace . As long as keep fighting amongst ourselves and not the real enemy they'll keep going unchecked. Whites blame blacks , blacks blame Mexicans , straights blame gays , republicans blame democrats , Christians blame atheists . We must unite under the banner of simple morality , and justice

We need to identify who "they" are. They are the political-corporate conglomerate that works in unison to further each others interests. They are also the divisions of government who have split off and become unaccountable, independent entities like the FDA, NSA, and IRS. Those two things are the enemy; we need to break wallstreet away from DC and reign in rogue agencies like FDA, NSA, IRS, etc. that have gained too much power with no oversight.

We have met the enemy and he is us.

Thanks, I like your thinking. And thanks OP for your passion!

I'd like to suggest a central, unwavering commitment to non-violence in every way possible. It (violence) is the lie keeping us bound to the cycle, at the whim of our hypocritical protectors.

Further we need to re-define violence socially – economic violence, technologic violence, agricultural violence, etc. Think of it as a rebranding of terrorism – turned back on those shady predators who are hijacking our system. The UN made a report saying cyber warfare is subject to all the same rules & punishments as traditional warfare – why shouldn't other forms of violence/terrorism/warfare?

It's important to know who "they" are and how they operate. But also important is building a message and identity which the masses can get behind entirely without fear. Many of us realize that a "dismantling" of the system would fail for many reasons, and isn't advised. The system (body) must stay in tact and in place, and the people (white blood cells) must unite against the invading forces (viruses). Hegemonies are not destroyed but countered (that is what's happening to our human culture – our potential a body of great nations has been sacrificed for the benefit of a few),

As for a name? I nominate The General Union. Those words could/ should strike fear into fear mongering globalists everywhere...

3 of your ideas really stand out. first, Non-violence is key. Any movement would be a PR based thing and violence would get the group smeared in the media and lose support. second, Building our identity and clearly what we stand for. Third, dismantling the system would never work. It just needs to be cleaned up, rid of corruption, and appropriate oversight and watchdogs without conflicts of interest need to be put in place.

You got several billion dollars to do this because I don't. Tv spots are not free and you have to have a good reason for them to let you on, they have to make out big on the deal, same with radio and even news paper.

I feel like we need to do something man , how else could we wake up the general populace? MLK an ghandi didn't have billions. But they gained publicity regardless

Its a great idea, but as soon as you get it off the ground, there will be extremists in the conspiracy groups that will want to subvert it and push their own agendas.

The big problem is funding, you won't be able to do everything above in a long term without the necessery money.

We aren't rockefellers, we can't spend a million here and a million there.

I think the better way to do things is trying to inform people in a conversation or handing out information.

Also David Icke is doing what you are describing with his crowdfunding tv station "The Peoples Voice".

they already have reached the minimal funding campagin goal, so this might be something to look into.

Both Ben Swann and Gary Franchi are stepping up.

This ^ I put my money behind Benn Swan, if you want truth in media no one has been more consistent and professional

I want a Constitutional party. A party based off one of the greatest constitutions ever written. A party that fights to keep our amendments and rights, not one that fights to take them away.

Do you have a plan on HOW to do this?

First we need to get the message to all r/conspiracy , and get everyone behind this goal. Post on r/occupy , and r/teaparty to propose an alliance for the better good , for they are both fighting the same tyranny . I am only a highschool student , so my contribution is limited at the moment . But if we can catch the attention of Web Designers , and other communication specialists . We can be the change we so crave . Wake them up , start a movement

first and foremost we need to lay out what we want changed. Problem with occupy was lack of a goal. We need clear goals. Goals that major political movements can all stand behind. Find the common threads between groups and demand that we start seeing the change. A common purpose, a common goal, and a common enemy could bring people together. I mentioned the things that are essentially the core of almost every political movement at the top.

Might I propose a Wiki Constitution.

I've been doing my own research the last 14 months, i've read so much shit, i think i finally got it. I've been a victim of anxiety, desperation and such, people keeps defending themselves with "it has always been like this". But, i saw, they are very interested on the subjects they know. Like, the gold is being filled with tungsten, teaching about freemasonry and how freemasonry works, and MONSANTO. people do care about their health, start boicoting corporations a little bit, that might wake up the human inside humans. I with some of my heart-friends(they all fighting the same evil shit) cut all of our hair in sign of protest against our families/friends/etc. I do not know if this will work, but it's ag ood way, to recognize ourselves and to show people, we give no fucks about our image, and that we are not alone. We are so much people, but we're separated from this silly countryborders.

Thanks bros, we're not alone, no fear, even if it costs us our death.(A freemason already stopped by my house, to give me a pleasent message). No fear bros, write books, spam messaged all over social networks, real life, do whatever you can, it's never enough.

Thank you all again. And hi, im new to /r/conspiracy!

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What we need more than anything are people with power who actually give two shits about us. I am in love with the HBO show The Newsroom. It is the greatest sadness to me that as great as the show is, it is all just a fantasy. I wish the people had a news program that would simply give it to us straight. This would do more than anything else to help the American public out of the gigantic hole we have dug ourselves.

all you need to do is realize that it is THE money you are using, not money, that is doing this to you....

STOP! COLLECTIVLEY using the money....AND IT WILL GO AWAY...this is all about money as debt, but more importantly its about why do you, we ,all use the money and believe it is good and what would it take for you and the guy next to you to not.

PM me for a spot on my website: http://ubc-cuma.weebly.com

Got money?

If so then where the fuck have you been?

david icke has been raising money for a global television/radio station, called The Peoples Voice, check it out davidicke.com

Well, we lucked out, as David Iche just got Kickstarted the money to start precisely a station like this--to tell the truth and deliver REAL news including what really goes on in the "democracy" that is Israel.

I forgot the name of it already but I'm sure that somebody here can help...

EDIT: A dude down in the comments said exactly this--it's called "The People's Voice" and he got quite a bit of money to start it.

In order to get anything done, you need time, money, and power. I don't know if any of you can get those three, even if y'all bond together. Posting, dreaming and circlejerking on Reddit won't get anything done.

exactly

The People's Voice is probably the new media station you're looking for.

what ever happened to the thepiratebay.se offshore server farm? maybe pool our money to buy an old telecom satellite?

I would like to help where ever I can.

http://www.reddit.com/r/Libertarian

the Libertarian party is the only party with actual solutions to our nations problems. check out the sidebar of the subreddit for info and different types of libertarianism

The LP is corrupt as fuck, and heavily influenced by the Koch Brothers (who in turn own CATO, and largest funder of Reason). I used to support GJ btw, but now have firmly gone back to Ron Paul and the 'Mises Institute'.

You should read more about the Koch's here:

And speaking of GJ; after having shat on Ron Paul in multiple interviews, this guy is trying to stay relevant. I made a huge mistake supporting him, and now this private-prison supporting, Federal-reserve defending, foreign-interventionism supporting, Israel supporting, GITMO defending dunce just won't go away.

and the Modern Whigs, in my opinion.I will check it out though, ive heard of the libertarian movement but dont know what their about.

Libertarianism is about freedoms and freemarkets. We believe people should able to engage in any activity concerning themselves, short of hurting anyone else; this can be issues such as the freedom to eat, smoke, drink what you want; and this extends to trade/commerce, which means the freedom to sell said products/service with minimal gov't restrictions.

We believe in the "Non Aggression Principle", which means we do not believe in using violence. However, we are not pacifists, as we believe in the right-to-bear-arms and using force when necessary. When some assailant uses force/violence against you, you're permitted to defend yourself.

Libertarianism is the direct ideological successor to Classical Liberalism, that of John Locke, Bastiat, Jefferson, etc.

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They keep us divided and fighting amongst ourselves , a divided populace is a weak populace . As long as keep fighting amongst ourselves and not the real enemy they'll keep going unchecked. Whites blame blacks , blacks blame Mexicans , straights blame gays , republicans blame democrats , Christians blame atheists . We must unite under the banner of simple morality , and justice

Thanks, I like your thinking. And thanks OP for your passion!

I'd like to suggest a central, unwavering commitment to non-violence in every way possible. It (violence) is the lie keeping us bound to the cycle, at the whim of our hypocritical protectors.

Further we need to re-define violence socially – economic violence, technologic violence, agricultural violence, etc. Think of it as a rebranding of terrorism – turned back on those shady predators who are hijacking our system. The UN made a report saying cyber warfare is subject to all the same rules & punishments as traditional warfare – why shouldn't other forms of violence/terrorism/warfare?

It's important to know who "they" are and how they operate. But also important is building a message and identity which the masses can get behind entirely without fear. Many of us realize that a "dismantling" of the system would fail for many reasons, and isn't advised. The system (body) must stay in tact and in place, and the people (white blood cells) must unite against the invading forces (viruses). Hegemonies are not destroyed but countered (that is what's happening to our human culture – our potential a body of great nations has been sacrificed for the benefit of a few),

As for a name? I nominate The General Union. Those words could/ should strike fear into fear mongering globalists everywhere...

3 of your ideas really stand out. first, Non-violence is key. Any movement would be a PR based thing and violence would get the group smeared in the media and lose support. second, Building our identity and clearly what we stand for. Third, dismantling the system would never work. It just needs to be cleaned up, rid of corruption, and appropriate oversight and watchdogs without conflicts of interest need to be put in place.

Libertarianism is about freedoms and freemarkets. We believe people should able to engage in any activity concerning themselves, short of hurting anyone else; this can be issues such as the freedom to eat, smoke, drink what you want; and this extends to trade/commerce, which means the freedom to sell said products/service with minimal gov't restrictions.

We believe in the "Non Aggression Principle", which means we do not believe in using violence. However, we are not pacifists, as we believe in the right-to-bear-arms and using force when necessary. When some assailant uses force/violence against you, you're permitted to defend yourself.

Libertarianism is the direct ideological successor to Classical Liberalism, that of John Locke, Bastiat, Jefferson, etc.