Recent developments in the gold market could be the signal for the next crash. #Goldbackwardation

55  2013-07-25 by [deleted]

Okay guys, I know this is a pretty bold idea, and I hate to stick my neck out like this... and I'm not claiming any insider knowledge or anything... I'm just saying that I've been watching some movements around gold lately and I've come across something that I think we should all at least be aware of, because the implications are huge, and we should all be ready for the worst.

This woman got me really interested: a World Bank Whistleblower (interviewed on Russia Today here) - she talks about corruption in the World Bank and more, but she gets pretty intense when she starts talking about gold backwardation. Listen to her (go to around 4m50s) The anchor immediately stops her at this point, despite the fact that the whistleblower said "the whole system is going to come to a screeching halt, probably in a matter of weeks, with something called GOLD BACKWARDATION" - which is a pretty tantalizing statement (there is a subsequent interview with Alex Jones where she talks more about it here)

I had never heard the term 'gold backwardation' before... but suddenly in the last few days it is in the mainstream financial press, and it is related to gold - look at this. Reuters is even talking about it). I've been checking all the mainstream news for gold over the last few months, so I know that this discussion of gold backwardation is a new thing. And it is exactly in line with the World Bank whistleblower's prediction, which was in June.

So, Gold Backwardation - what is it? Business Insider describe it like this:

"Commodities like gold will have a futures price and a spot price. The futures price is the price you'd see on a contract, which is traded on an exchange like the NYMEX. The spot price is the current price of the commodity. Backwardation occurs when the spot price is above the futures price. Typically, these two prices converge when the futures contract matures."

Boring right? Wrong. This is a big deal. Why? Because demand for physical gold is outstripping supply for the first time in a long time. There is about 100 times more paper gold (ie. promises to pay back the lender gold - or the cash equivalent) in the world than there is actual gold. So if investors realize that there is a physical gold shortage (which is what seems to be happening now), then a lot of people who own paper gold will sell it immediately in order to get physical gold. Paper gold will become worthless as the price of physical gold sky-rockets and the issuers of paper-gold-promises realize that they cannot pay what they promised. We are talking about some major banks defaulting here. It is going to be a huge mess. It is impossible to say for sure, but I would think it is a safe bet that this would take the economy down... not just the US economy either. Also, it might be worth mentioning that China (and some other eastern countries) are buying gold at an ever-increasing, and furious rate.

Remember in April when the price of gold plummeted? There was some compelling evidence that the price of gold was being manipulated in order to help the powers that be deal with all their promises to pay back gold. This all fits in with the theory - because it shows the powers that be try to reduce the price of gold to reduce their exposure.

The reason the big banks would have gotten into this mess is simple: They found it really easy to make money by printing up a piece of paper that they could sell for the price of an ounce of gold (say $300 a few years ago) in return for promising to pay back the purchaser (ie. lender) the $ equivalent to an ounce of gold in the future. When the price of gold went up to $1900, these banks would have realized how over-leveraged (ie. in debt, overexposed, screwed) they were and most likely did whatever they could to manipulate the price of gold down.

It is theoretically easy to manipulate the price of paper gold (by flooding the market with more paper gold - which is what I think the banks did)... And the price of gold has fallen significantly from the $1900 level (although some of this drop in price was probably due to other factors).

The reason that flooding the market with paper gold will bring down the price of physical gold is that the 'spot' price (a.k.a. the selling price) of gold is linked not to physical gold, but to paper gold. However, while the owners of PAPER gold have been selling like it is going out of style, the owners of PHYSICAL gold have been holding on to their gold and saw the drop in price as a golden opportunity to buy more. Demand for PHYSICAL gold has been incredibly strong the last few months, and now it seems like physical gold supply is starting to run out...

Meanwhile there are many owners of paper gold who believe that their paper is backed by physical gold sitting somewhere in a vault (although this is rarely the case). When the defaults start, these poor (or soon-to-be-poor) people are going to get a shock.

TL,DR: Essentially what this post is all about is the diminishing supply of physical gold. I'm just looking at the early signs here, but once it becomes obvious that physical gold supply is running out, that's when everything will go crazy... economic collapse, brought on by gold backwardation, as predicted by a World Bank Whistleblower just a few weeks ago.

I hope I have explained this in a way that you guys can understand what I'm trying to say. I have spent a long time reading stuff about the gold market, and it is still tough going. The gold market is very mysterious to those of us on the outside, and probably even to those on the inside, so there is no way of knowing if I am misreading something... so I do encourage some feedback here.

Edited for clarity.

Edit: http://www.businessinsider.com/institutions-sell-most-stock-since-2008-2013-7 - maybe possibly related...

20 comments

Great analysis, thanks for sharing. I'm always looking for insight regarding the financial collapse... I know its going to happen, I just don't know when. But this is certainly something to look into and watch out for.

I remember seeing this and wondering what she was talking about, I had to rewind the tape a few times to catch the word "backwardation".

I'm glad you made this post. Short paper gold, long physical?

Yeah, I would leave paper gold alone. Physical only. And if you can't physically hold the gold, then you don't own it.

And I wouldn't put your gold in a bank safety deposit box either... it is probably safer under your mattress.

if you dont hold it you dont own it!

There's more manipulation in silver. Many banks are long silver now because they finally convinced the public that it's a bad asset and were able to ease off their positions. All we need now is a nice fat black swan to fly by.

I've converted my gold to potted meat.

is there any way to prepare for the imminent financial collapse?

Read this somewhat definitive guide, 'Strategic Relocation', by Joel Skousen. I have a free pdf copy of this relatively expensive book hosted here: Strategic Relocation- Google Drive Download

You can also check out the accompanying video for free on youtube: Strategic Relocation Film, Full Version HD- Youtube

no sure way. the usual ideas include: buy a farm, buy a gun, buy some gold, buy some silver, don't be holding too many dollars, build a community, get out of debt, learn how to grow food, buy lots of tinned food, buy some water tablets and a water filter, get lots of batteries, get a grab bag (with all you need if you have to leave your home)... all the usual stuff. Perhaps check in with r/collapse or r/survival for more info... or watch some youtube videos of 'Doomsday Preppers' (I don't think it is on TV any more). If you live in a city, it might be good to have an exit strategy just in case. Sorry to be so vague, but I have no idea what a collapse will look like. Most people think it is going to be really rough in the US. There might be countries better suited to it... I think less developed countries will have less far to fall, so won't notice so much... the US' descent to 3rd World status will be painful if it happens.

What do you mean buy gold? Like jewerly?

Get in touch with local people who have turned on and tuned in.

Thanks tommytime!

I've been reading about this online recently. Thanks for your analysis.

This is all true. I've been watching it for about a year.

Good analysis tommytime. A number of gold/silver investment analysts (Antal Fekete notably) have been warning about backwardation for a while, but the mainstream media have not mentioned it (which is not surprising, since the importance of gold to the financial system is a "forbidden" subject in the media).

There is definitely a conspiracy of silence here. Russia, India, China and other Asian countries are buying all the gold which is being mined, as well as importing Western bullion (not paper!) to meet consumer demand. Meanwhile, people in the West have been convinced by media and governments that gold is a busted flush.

When the Bullion banks, the Fed and their cronies at the Comex and LBMA lose their ability to manipulate the price down, gold will rise to its real level (many thousands of dollars per ounce) and well beyond, as gold mania takes over.

So how can one make a profit? I have a couple grand that I was going to pay off sallie mae but seems like good profit can be made

Because the market is rigged, only those in the know have much chance of guaranteeing a "quick" buck. If you have urgent debts to pay, I would take care of those. Otherwise take a medium/long term view and buy some silver eagles, keep it to yourself, and keep them somewhere safe.

Not investment advice, obviously!