what the hell is going on why are all the news subreddits deleting this story?

The reason given in /r/politics is that the posts have editorialized titles. To be fair, it does look like a couple of the submissions are somewhat objectively in violation of the rule, as they contain commentary and other opinions not actually stated in the article.

This story absolutely needs to be on the front page, so whoever wants to post it again needs to follow all the rules of the subreddit when they do. It would be a tragedy for this to miss out on a great deal of exposure due to silly rule violations.

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Bah and they'll probably decide to delete that one later for editorializing.

They really are complete morons on r/politics and I've told them there are many people who believe they moderate with a bias to their own political views and selectively enforce rules.

Recently I had this thread removed:
After being jailed in Yemen for three years at the personal request of Obama, journalist Abdulelah Haider Shaye who helped expose a U.S. cruise missile attack on the Yemeni village of al-Majalah which killed 41 people, including 14 women and 21 children in December 2009, has been released.

Of course I wrote to them and once again explained what an editorialized title means. It means inserting your opinion into a title. My title didn't do that. I changed the title because the original gave the impression that Obama called for his release, not his imprisonment. I summarised the report which is what a title is supposed to do.

NOPE, they weren't having it. They took issue with the word 'personally' even though Obama did personally telephone the Yemini president and ask him to keep the journalist in jail. Nope, 'personally' isn't mentioned in the article so they wouldn't approve it.

I then asked if I could use the first sentence from the report:

Prominent Yemeni journalist Abdulelah Haider Shaye has been released from prison after being held for three years on terrorism-related charges at the request of President Obama. Shaye helped expose the U.S. cruise missile attack on the Yemeni village of al-Majalah that killed 41 people, including 14 women and 21 children in December 2009. Then-Yemeni President Ali Abdullah Saleh announced his intention to pardon Shaye in 2011, but apparently changed his mind after a phone call from Obama.

Yes that would be fine they said.
Now what is the difference between by title and the first sentence? There isn't any. Only I summarised it.

you basically made that last sentence into the "personal" term, which is entirely accurate. What a load of crap

This would not be the first time r/politics mods deleted a post that was gaining momentum. In fact, it's been their stock in trade....hence their removal from the default list of subreddits. That said, the other subs following suit is somewhat troubling. It does not bode well for the future of this site.

Can you point to any examples on the front page of /r/politics that aren't quotes from the article? I did a quick skim and didn't see any.

Can't be posted again because then it will be removed because it is a 'repost', this is what OP is saying.

Hmm, I wonder who reddit inc has PR contracts with. Seriously.

We are winning. This is joyous news! The people will prevail.

As the state crumbles, the stateless rise, eyes wide and hopeful. Bring on the future. :D

No time for any celebration yet, bub. Still a lot of work to do and the game is nowhere near won. Time to stay focused and keep your eyes on the prize.

TPTB trying desperately to contain the MSM narrative. That's what it is.

It was Top Fucking Secret until now. That is why.

http://i.imgur.com/JV0d3Q3.png

/pol/ is always right

Advance Publications gave reddit inc 18 million when Yishan came on.

They are one of the investors behind reddit inc. No one will say a word about who else Yishan brought on. And let m tell you right now that a 230 million dollar valuation does not come from a 18 million dollar push.

You can see more here: http://www.reddit.com/r/moderationlog

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'spam' filter

if anyone for a second believes that the MSM has no control over those "news" subreddits are myopic.

~6% American adults use reddit. that's 6% revenue for any of those MSM conglomerates. of course they're going to do their best to manipulate the subreddits. what we need is this subreddit to be more popular but with the title /conspiracy as it is, it all gives us a negative image due to the connotation of the word "conspiracy."

since all the big subreddit posts got removed its been making its way up the top100 through smaller subreddits like /r/restorethefourth /r/conspiracy and /r/geek lets hope one of them makes it to #1

A couple things I see happening :

1. Splintering (Multiple posts on Xkeyscore ) This has the effect of slowing down momentum of a story. I thought if you tried to post a link that had already been posted, you couldn't do it. I see 15 posts of the guardian site.

2. Ghosting/shadowbanning- I made a political post the other day in /r/offmychest HERE and the post is only available if you click on it and not if you search. Of course, nobody can click on it because they can't see it.

3. Removal of politics from defaults. This has the effect of containing outrage to those already exposed to it.

These 3 methods alone are effective at quelling debate. Does reddit have a responsibility to provide a platform for debate?

EDIT: Also, this [score hidden] thing also allows for shaping of voting.

I seem to remember a post here about how the mods remove the Guardian articles and favour the Washington Post ones. I think I remember if being the mods of /r/restorethefourth and one of the news subs being the same people.

Edit: Here is the post about the questionable mods removing posts

Would love to see a Reddit insider or mod speak on the record.

It will never happen. Mods, prove me wrong.

Well who wants to to rape the subs with threads about this with me?

Shhhh... go back to sleep.

relevant screencap

The one post that's up on r/politics right now has all the commenters asking why the previous post was deleted. They're getting suspicious.

http://www.anonmgur.com/up/17832a6eafb09376d012090ff1b06dbe.png

Mod log from the front page post that is full of people asking the same questions.

this story was out weeks ago: http://electrospaces.blogspot.com/2013/07/new-slides-about-nsa-collection-programs.html

That article clearly states it was updated July 31st. Are you seriously suggesting a random blog released this new info before The Guardian did?

i remember seeing info on x-keyscore weeks ago

/r/worldnews is not for news with a particular relevance to the United States. It may not be what you wish to see, and you may find it to be relevant to the entire world (I can certainly see that argument), but that's probably why that happened.

For me, the story shows up all over /r/news and /r/politics. One or more /r/news threads were simply removed for having a shitty source; the Guardian source was left untouched.

In addition, not all of the posts listed here as censored are censored for me. Meaning I can't only access them, but they show up on the front page as well.

Whereas on politics they kept the business insider version and torched the Guardian one.

Naturally the Guardian version is what people need to see.

Yes, I noticed there was one such subreddit. Shit decision. BI is nothing but a reblogging bunch of cunts.

Actually, checking just now, I'm seeing the Guardian all over /r/politics, and no BI NSA story right now. Don't know if it changed, or if I'm talking about another subreddit. Still, I fully agree with you.

Reblogging is harmful and needs to be stopped. It dilutes the facts and restricts access to others.

Then the moderation isn't perfect. The custom CSS even warns against US news at the top of the page.

The rest, one by one:

• Marked as having an editorialized title

• /r/technology submission had an editorialized title, and may not be on-topic for the sub (though that's debatable)

• Not censored

• Editorialized title

• Identical to another submission that is currently at the top of the sub

If censorship is going to be claimed, at least try to follow the rules.

Mind you, I'm not saying moderation isn't suspicious sometimes, but if you don't follow the rules it's as though you're trying to make things seem more suspicious than they are.

The meaning that 'editorialized title' has on Reddit for many subreddits means 'anything but the original title'. It's a restrictive interpretation, sure, and some subreddits at least allow one to use quotes from the article.

I don't personally agree with it, but those are the rules in those subs. If you don't play by them, you don't get to cry 'censorship'. If you have a problem with the rules, that's what you should be fighting instead.

It is a clear case of selective enforcement, as is the issue with r/politics.

And that, I'm not denying. Most subreddits seem to have shitty moderation, even unsubscribing from all the defaults doesn't really fix that.

This submission is not censored currently. It is one of the links you submitted, at least after clicking through from here.

N.B. I already seem to be downvoted so much that I can't just post this comment without waiting. How's that for fucking free speech on this sub? Good going guys. (Posting limits appear to be subreddit-specific on Reddit.)

That's alright, it may just have been one downvote. I don't really post here, these may be my first comments here, so I'm sure Reddit's algo's are extra skeptical regarding me. I recently found that I could still comment in subs other than one I happened to be downvoted in.

Un-deletion indeed is something I can't rule out. Not sure whyit would have been: even a moderator entered that thread to give his kudos to the OP for submitting the original. Confusing, no?

Thanks for explaining the best you could.

You're welcome. I do think it's important to justify oneself.

(Just tried out in another sub as well... Even posting suspicious links there didn't set off the filter, so yeah. =/ )

Advance Publications gave reddit inc 18 million when Yishan came on.

They are one of the investors behind reddit inc. No one will say a word about who else Yishan brought on. And let m tell you right now that a 230 million dollar valuation does not come from a 18 million dollar push.

It will never happen. Mods, prove me wrong.