According to this person, we are all going to die (or at least 99.999% of us) in...oh, about seven days from now.

13  2013-08-10 by no1113

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ye9BgvNvjK0

For about the next three months from this coming Saturday 8/17/13 to about November or so, we are all going to be 100% dead unless we are part of the .0001% that took the necessary precautions against what this person claims is about to happen.

She says she used to work for the military and was privy to a LOT of secret information. She says that we actually don't live in a single sun system. This solar system is actually a binary system. The second sun - in orbit around the sun we are familiar with - is a red giant brown dwarf (thanks for the reminder and correction, ForgedSanity) that itself has an accompanying seven other planets revolving around it. That particular other sun and its seven accompanying planets comes in very close proximity to "our" sun and our planets every few thousand years, and well...it's about that time again.

On one level I certainly hope she's wrong. It's not because I have any fear whatsoever of death itself. I'm just not looking forward to the possibility of suffering immensely on my way to it. I'd rather it be nice and painless, and some of the things she describes might happen as this other sun and its seven accompanying planets begin coming in contact with our sun and our planets (and colliding with them as well as heavily influencing the gravitational field of Earth) does not sound good at all. Some could write her off and say she's just a crazy kook, but she doesn't really sound like she's fucking around, trolling, or playing any sort of joke.

I guess we'll find out in a week.

EDIT: Holy shit. This right here in and of itself doesn't "prove" what the interviewer has said...but damn. It gives some very, very interesting/provocative added information.

Again, holy shit.

EDIT II: visualculture provided this response that I think is worth mentioning here as well.

EPILOGUE OP - 8/18/13: http://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/1klep0/its_friday_81713_and_were_still_alive/

170 comments

Did she provide any reason why astronomers would be unable to locate a star close enough to cause such a problem?

I don't remember 100% exactly, as I listened to her interviews a couple of days ago, but I believe she might have mentioned that the second sun and some of its planets are already detectable.

She said that during sun up and sun down you should be able to see that our sun has a LOT of haze around it that is uncharacteristic for it, and this is a sign of what's happening. I'm not doing justice to what she said, and am not explaining it as well as she did, but I do know that the other day before I heard the interview, I remember being able to look literally right at the sun because it was so dull and orange and it was covered by so much haze. I also live in Los Angeles, however, so it's always smoggy and hazy around here, but I DO remember thinking "Damn. This is a LOT more hazy and smoggy than even we here in Los Angeles usually are. Weird."

And then I heard this interview and it made me think back to that moment.

the second sun and some of its planets are already detectable.

Then how come nobody has detected them? Even if the professionals, for whatever reason, didn't say anything about it, there should be thousands of amateur astronomers going absolutely nuts about this.

That would seem to be the case - certainly. I don't know what to say at this point one way or the other about this other than lets wait and see. In a week's time it might all turn out to be bogus. It would be good if it is.

If it's not bogus and she's right, then I guess I can come back here laughing and say "Ha ha! See, you morons! We are all going to die! Woowee! I'm right yet again!...oh wait a minute."

It is the case. It couldn't possibly be more obvious. There's no possible way that any of this is real at all. We don't have to wait a week because we already know it's not going to happen because it's ridiculous. Anybody who continues to consider it after even a little bit of thought is nuts.

We don't have to wait a week because we already know it's not going to happen because it's ridiculous.

I'll remember to come to you whenever I need flawless logical skills used on any argument. Check.

Anybody who continues to consider it after even a little bit of thought is nuts.

Gotcha. Thanks for that.

[deleted]

I personally wouldn't classify the possibilities that she explains and goes into as "entertaining".

[deleted]

lol. :)

Saw/heard that video two days ago. She sure makes a dark picture. I guess we will have to wait and see.

Yeah. It's kind of a wait and see type of thing. She doesn't sound like much of a crazy kook either (to me, anyway), and along with the fact that I did notice the atmosphere around the sun was a LOT hazier than I remember ever previously seeing it, it's got me thinking heavily about some of the things she said.

It does give one pause. But to think that it will end in a blink of an eye is a lot to think about. Not to mention that there are all the other "Aliens" to consider. We mere Earthlings aren't alone in this. This is a cosmic shit storm, not mere Earth politics, entirely. Should make some good headlines either way.

It does give one pause. But to think that it will end in a blink of an eye is a lot to think about.

Well...according to her, it'll be a long blink. About three months or so actually.

Not to mention that there are all the other "Aliens" to consider.

Are you referring to the ones that are on this planet? I imagine that they are either taken care of by the MIC or their own interstellar family or part of their voyage/"mission" here on this planet is to experience just such a catastrophic occurrence as the very one that the Brassard mentions is about to occur.

We mere Earthlings aren't alone in this.

This is very, very true.

This is a cosmic shit storm, not mere Earth politics, entirely

Well, at the very least a stellar and solar system shit storm...possibly even a galactic shit storm. I'm sure there's cosmic significance to it too, but I would imagine that the kind of thing Brassard predicts happens all the time on a cosmic level, so there might not be that much brouhaha in the grander universal scheme of things. You're definitely right, however, that it's not just about "Earth politics". That's real small potatoes in comparison with what's really going on.

Should make some good headlines either way.

Yeah...If what Brassard says is valid though, then the news simply won't be around to print any headlines at all.

Are you referring to the ones that are on this planet?

Not entirely. There are other beings that don't hang out on Earth directly but that have a vested interest in Earth just the same. Remember Earth is part of a wider community. This wider community, unlike Earth politics, actually has a well balanced system at work. If the Earth gets taken out then this upsets the universal balance. This is why all the UFOs suddenly stated to appear when we Earthlings started firing off nukes left and right.

There are other beings that don't hang out on Earth directly but that have a vested interest in Earth just the same.

This, of course, is most definitely true.

Remember Earth is part of a wider community.

Correct.

This wider community, unlike Earth politics, actually has a well balanced system at work.

Sounds about right.

If the Earth gets taken out then this upsets the universal balance.

There's an even larger system, however, than the proximate one that the Earth and the other galactic beings here immediately belong to. It is true that we are part of a larger galactic council...but there are literally billions of galaxies, each with their own congregation (their own "galactic UN" of sorts) representing each area, each sector, and the many beings living amongst the billions of stars in each of the billions of galaxies in the cosmos. Taken in this context then, what happens to one of the billions of star systems in the outskirts of this particular galaxy is something that the "Milky Way UN" presiding here has to deal with on its own without worrying too much that such an event is going to be much more than a tiny blip on the cosmic radar of "current events" in the entire universe as a whole.

If the Earth gets taken out then this upsets the universal balance.

Oh no, my brother. Brassard is in no way saying that the Earth is going to get "taken out". She makes no mention of this whatsoever. The Earth isn't going to get "taken out" according to her at all. It's merely going to experience a "slight shifting" as it will be influenced by the gravitational pull of the other planets that will be passing by in close proximity to it.

This "slight gravitational pulling", of course, will be enough to cause the oceans to entirely engulf all coastal land masses, however, along with undermining all nuclear power plants, etc - resulting in billions of human non human deaths. This "slight gravitational pulling" will destroy the delicate balance of human life on this planet.

It will be little more than a slight jostling to the planet Earth herself, however. She will be fine. Mother Earth will be okay. The tiny ants littering her will have to come back another day though - cuz many of them (us) will be gone according to Brassard's information.

We'll see what happens.

Just a thought. You know that last December 21, 2012, despite all the hype, nothing visible happened. Do you suppose that events foreshadowed for December 12, 2012 are still to happen, implying that the ancient Mayans were off by about 10 or 11 months ?

Well we all know how shitty Mayans are at math. Lol most of what was translated into 'number' and 'dates' were later found to not be numbers at all.

Yes, and let us hope this inaccurate math continues. I plan on hanging around here for a lot longer than a few more months.

...Not a horrible question. Brassard herself made mention that TPTB actually knew that nothing would happen on 12/21/12 but drummed up the paranoia on purpose so that the population could be lulled to sleep by thinking "This 8/17/13 thing is just another doomsday hoax like 12/21/12." This, again, will cause the masses to not really act while the elite elite are preparing so that when the disaster DOES hit, they can quickly tuck themselves away in their previously prepared safe houses while everyone else dies.

So yeah...Perhaps shit's still about to go down, and in a big way. Perhaps the Mayans were right after all...Just off by a few months.

WTF am I reading?

Might want to be more specific if you expect any type of intelligible answer. Maybe you don't expect one though. I don't know.

After reading what's been said in here, I highly doubt that you or those who agree with you are even capable of an intelligible answer. I'm convinced this is some sort of plant designed to make this subreddit look less credible.

If that's what you think, then meh. Thinking that you know what you're talking about makes you simply look more embarrassing and stupid. Oh well.

Moving on.

I saw this too and it caught my attention for a few reasons, but first to clarify for OP she said that the 2nd star (I will call it Sol 2) is not a red giant but rather (And I might be misquoting) a brown dwarf that is about 1/10th the size of Sol (our sun). Also while she did say that you could see it and sunrise/sunset I don't remember anything about haze rather she said you can actually see it, as in an extra glowing dot next to our normal glowing dot (Although you may need to view it through a filter* for it to be visible *don't remember what it was called, but she said it was pretty easy too do.). I have tried to check myself, but I live mountainous area so I can't really see the sun rise and set.

The interesting thing about this is that it blends rather well with many other theories that I have heard before, yet she doesn't seem interested in promoting them or anything rather just presenting her knowledge to the public as it stands. I will try and summarize the important stuff.

1) Sol 2 is a star that orbits our sun and every few thousand years (don't remember the exact time-frame) it has reaches its closest past to earth which she claims will be about .32 AU this time.

2) Sol 2 has 7 planets in orbit around it. Interestingly during one of the interviews she makes the claim in passing that there are intelligent beings that live there and that the gov't has made contact and in fact they are responsible for messing with human genetics in the past for the purpose of making us a slave species. This is an already existing theory and it is interesting because after making this comment the interviewer tried to press her for more info, but she declined because it was "irrelevant" to the current emergency and she didn't want people too not believe her.

3) As Sol 2 approaches its magnetic influence on earth increases and this is what has caused the accelerated polar shift that has been documented by scientists. Also when Sol 2 crosses the critical point where it is closer Earth then Sol, Earths magnetic field will be so heavily interfered with that it will temporary collapse leaving us exposed to dangerous UV and microwave radiation.

4)The 'event' has already begun and will begin intensifying to a point where it is undeniable around 8/11 or 8/12 (tomorrow or the day after as of posting this) and will climax around 8/17.

5) The Gov't has been aware that this was going to happen for decades and has prepared underground bases that will protect the elite of the world while everyone else is left to die.

This is the quick version of the claim and if you want more detail then you can listen to this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ye9BgvNvjK0&list=PLedZE99g4

which is a much better quality interview then the one posted on this sub a few days ago.

If anyone finds any verifying evidence to support this claim please post it as I am still not sure about the legitimacy of this person.

I saw this too and it caught my attention for a few reasons, but first to clarify for OP she said that the 2nd star (I will call it Sol 2) is not a red giant but rather (And I might be misquoting) a brown dwarf that is about 1/10th the size of Sol (our sun).

I believe you are very correct, actually. It's a brown dwarf. Not a red giant. Thanks for that.

The interesting thing about this is that it blends rather well with many other theories that I have heard before

Yes, sir. Indeed it does. All the flood "myths" in so many religions go along well with this, as well as offering a decent explanation for why there are so many darned "submerged cities" at the bottom of the ocean. Perhaps they experienced the kind of overwhelming flood Brassard mentions will overtake this current civilization soon.

yet she doesn't seem interested in promoting them or anything rather just presenting her knowledge to the public as it stands.

I think this actually fortifies her information for me because it shows that she's not really interested in presenting any sort of greater, historical or academic context behind her information. She's more interested in just making sure that the information gets out there in the first place and that's it.

Interestingly during one of the interviews she makes the claim in passing that there are intelligent beings that live there and that the gov't has made contact and in fact they are responsible for messing with human genetics in the past for the purpose of making us a slave species.

Yep. I remember that. It was pretty much exactly in line w/Sitchin's work and what's been said about the Anunnaki, etc.

This is an already existing theory and it is interesting because after making this comment the interviewer tried to press her for more info, but she declined because it was "irrelevant" to the current emergency and she didn't want people too not believe her.

Yep. Seems to show that she actually isn't interested to any extent in anything but the nuts and bolts information that she's presenting. "Just the facts, ma'am." kind of thing. This gives the information more validation, not less.

As Sol 2 approaches its magnetic influence on earth increases and this is what has caused the accelerated polar shift that has been documented by scientists.

The key here, of course, being "that has been DOCUMENTED BY SCIENTISTS" - for those so starving for "proof".

The 'event' has already begun and will begin intensifying to a point where it is undeniable around 8/11 or 8/12 (tomorrow or the day after as of posting this) and will climax around 8/17.

If this is true - and, like you said, certain facts have already begun to be scientifically documented - then...watch out, Earth human population.

Thank you for this quick overview. Very much appreciated, good sir. Well done.

Thank you for this quick overview. Very much appreciated

Just doing my part, but thanks.

Yep. Seems to show that she actually isn't interested to any extent in anything but the nuts and bolts information that she's presenting. "Just the facts, ma'am." kind of thing. This gives the information more validation, not less.

Every time I see a new theory I go at it with the mindset that there are 3 possibilities and then work through process of elimination to find the truth. The 3 possibilities being 1) They're crazy 2) They're lying or 3) It's the truth. In this case based on what I have heard form her I am fairly convinced that she isn't lying. This means she is crazy or she is telling the truth and the latter of those is rather terrifying. At this point I think that only thing to really do is wait and see in order to learn which it is. Unless of course someone posts evidence that confirms the claim in which case it has been fun and I hope you all find a good way to spend your last days on Earth.

Also in her interviews when she was mentioning the aliens that are suppose to live there I got the impression that she was implying that there was more then one species of them and that at least one of those species was benevolent. If this were the case I wonder what the chances are that they would try and save Earth, seeing as how I would imagine that a species as advanced as they are implied to be would have worked out a way to protect their planet from the similar effects that it would also be experiencing. Just a thought.

Also in her interviews when she was mentioning the aliens that are suppose to live there I got the impression that she was implying that there was more then one species of them and that at least one of those species was benevolent.

Oh well that is most definitely the case, and we didn't need her to tell us that. There are various other individuals and sources that have attested to this.

If this were the case I wonder what the chances are that they would try and save Earth

Nu uh, brother. It's not like that. The Earth won't need any saving. She won't be dying. She'll only be jostled about a bit by the gravitational undulations the planet fly byes will cause upon her surface. She'll wobble this way and that, her poles will shift, she'll get a bit of a "make over", etc, but nothing much else will happen to her in the "catastrophic" sense.

Many of the little fleas on her, however (human fleas and otherwise), will likely definitely go bye bye. That won't bother her much though. She'll be okay. Again, she won't need any ETs coming in to help her. I think she'll ultimately be fine.

seeing as how I would imagine that a species as advanced as they are implied to be would have worked out a way to protect their planet from the similar effects that it would also be experiencing.

A few things: One, I personally don't think that humans deserve saving. We're, for the most part, fucking assholes. We kill each other left and right, to say nothing about how we treat other forms of sentient life. Not only that, but I wouldn't doubt if other ET beings are under a galactic "non interference" order of some sort.

"Don't interfere with primitive, developing species." - humans being a prime example of such. Perhaps a few of us might be helped. Most of us would likely have to reincarnate again if we want to have another stab at "being human".

I'm personally not sure I'd want another go around, however. :)

I personally don't think that humans deserve saving. We're, for the most part, fucking assholes.

I don't think this is the case, we are lead by assholes for sure. However I think Humans in general have the potential to be pretty awesome if we could just sort out this government and religion bullshit. As to treatment of other species, while I don't know about you personally I would be humbled and honored to be in the presence of an advanced alien civilization (Assuming they weren't total asshats) and I think a lot of people would feel the same way. As for the notion of a galactic non-interference agreement I think that a lot of people might argue that such a contract was broken long ago.

Also where does one draw the line between primitive/developing and advanced/developed, we Humans have come pretty far in the last hundred years and if we weren't being limited by the petty interests of politics and business I feel like we could go much further.

I'm personally not sure I'd want another go around, however.

While I do believe in the potential of this species, I am totally on board for reincarnating into the advanced civilization that already has this shit sorted out.

I don't think this is the case, we are lead by assholes for sure.

We may not be inherently assholes, but we sure do seem to fall nicely into that category and nestle into it rather well. Just looking at some of the responses on here is rather indicative of that.

I think Humans in general have the potential to be pretty awesome if we could just sort out this government and religion bullshit.

I wouldn't disagree with that...but I think this particular iteration of humanity...might just be on about its last legs. It might be ready for a reboot. The REAL powers that be (not the Earthly ones) might be like "OK. This version is too much of a fuck up too. Time to start over and try another version of humanity. This one's too stupid."

As to treatment of other species, while I don't know about you personally I would be humbled and honored to be in the presence of an advanced alien civilization

As would I most definitely. It seems that there is still too great a percentage of humans that wouldn't feel this way, however, and would react negatively or violently.

As for the notion of a galactic non-interference agreement I think that a lot of people might argue that such a contract was broken long ago.

Yes. This would most certainly seem to be correct...amongst some species. I think there are still some ET civilizations that are still holding fast to that agreement, however.

Also where does one draw the line between primitive/developing and advanced/developed

I'm not sure, but I think we are somewhere in the middle.

we Humans have come pretty far in the last hundred years

Through the likely help of ET beings that gave us technology we wouldn't otherwise have had. I don't think we should take too much credit for how far we've come, therefore.

if we weren't being limited by the petty interests of politics and business I feel like we could go much further.

I wouldn't disagree with this.

While I do believe in the potential of this species, I am totally on board for reincarnating into the advanced civilization that already has this shit sorted out.

Oh well hell yeah. That would be awesome. I wouldn't want to come back to THIS species, but another, better one? Yeah. Sign me up.

I don't know if I would be worthy of reincarnating in that other class though. Depends on the grades I get in this class here on this planet first.

We may not be inherently assholes, but we sure do seem to fall nicely into that category and nestle into it rather well. Just looking at some of the responses on here is rather indicative of that.

I feel as though a lot of the observed stupidity/hate/greed we see in the world is the by-product of terrible leadership/brain-washing propaganda. While some people are genuinely evil I think that most simply don't know any better, bitterness and distrust is all they have ever known.

I think this particular iteration of humanity...might just be on about its last legs.

While this may be true, I hold that it doesn't have to be. I still think we could be saved if we tried hard enough, and perhaps got a little outside help. The biggest factor in this fight is the fact that almost no one is trying, no one knows that they are about to lose it all. Furthermore many of those who do know something is wrong are under the illusion that it will be the future generations problem to deal with, but the simple truth is that if people don't wake up now...there will be no future generations...or those generations will be hopelessly devastated by tragedy and injustice.

It seems that there is still too great a percentage of humans that wouldn't feel this way, however, and would react negatively or violently.

At first yes, but if there is one thing humanity has going for it, it's adaptability. Especially when there is a benefit to be had.

Depends on the grades I get in this class here on this planet first.

If we are graded based on the average then I don't think you have too much to worry about ;)

I feel as though a lot of the observed stupidity/hate/greed we see in the world is the by-product of terrible leadership/brain-washing propaganda.

I would greatly agree with this, sir. I feel that a responsible leadership would influence the people toward being more evolved. Things certainly seem purposefully contrived not for the better, but often for the worse, however.

While some people are genuinely evil I think that most simply don't know any better, bitterness and distrust is all they have ever known.

Seems correct to me.

While this may be true, I hold that it doesn't have to be. I still think we could be saved if we tried hard enough, and perhaps got a little outside help.

I think we have to be worthy of that outside help first, and right now, human civilization as a whole seems much too lazy to get up and do what's necessary to oust the losers that are in the leadership positions here.

The biggest factor in this fight is the fact that almost no one is trying, no one knows that they are about to lose it all.

Yep. We just pretty much said the same thing here. We are on the same wavelength, it seems.

If we are graded based on the average then I don't think you have too much to worry about

In one sense, this way of grading seems like it might have some merit. In another, I imagine that there is a great extent to which one's performance is based upon how one did independent of the outside influences. It seems that's part of what makes ones actions count. What did you do independent of your circumstances or the difficulty you found yourself in?

I'm trying. Sometimes Often I fail, but I keep trying.

Peace,

This is pretty close to the stupidest thing I have ever heard. The world is going to end in seven days because of a second sun with seven other planets that will pass within 0.32 AU of us? And it has never been seen before? NASA hasn't published anything about it? We've seen none of the orbital disturbances that might be expected from such a large body? Amateur astronomers aren't flipping out about finding these eight new objects?

And you're "not sure about the legitimacy of this person"? What's not to be sure about? They're insane.

And it has never been seen before?

Of course it has been seen before (allegedly), just not by you.

NASA hasn't published anything about it?

NASA works for the gov't and if the gov't wanted to keep it a secret (as is the trend these days) then NASA would be the last people too publish about it.

We've seen none of the orbital disturbances that might be expected from such a large body?

This person claims that we are seeing disturbances and that you just aren't being told about them by mass media. (The media hiding relevant information, shocking right?)

Amateur astronomers aren't flipping out about finding these eight new objects?

I will grant you that is one of the reasons I find this hard to believe, but on its own it is not enough evidence to convince me 100% that they are lying/crazy

just not by you.

Yeah, that's exactly the problem. I should be able to see it.

NASA works for the gov't and if the gov't wanted to keep it a secret (as is the trend these days) then NASA would be the last people too publish about it.

As if the government can keep a secret. Especially about a second sun. Seriously? You think the government is at all capable of a coverup that is literally bigger than this planet?

you just aren't being told about them by mass media.

Or scientists for that matter.

Yeah, that's exactly the problem. I should be able to see it.

According to the claim, you can at sunrise and sunset. Go check for yourself and let me know how it goes.

As if the government can keep a secret. Especially about a second sun. Seriously? You think the government is at all capable of a coverup that is literally bigger than this planet?

I make no assumptions about how big a secret the government can or can not keep, but if this were true then apparently they aren't keeping it well enough based on the fact that we are talking about it now.

Or scientists for that matter.

How exactly would you expect scientist to convey this information to you if it were being censored by the media?

According to the claim, you can at sunrise and sunset. Go check for yourself and let me know how it goes.

There's supposedly another star within 1 AU from us right now according to this. How could it possibly be limited to sunrise and sunset? That's right, it can't be.

It's well past sunset here, so I can't check at sunset, but I can verify that there is currently no second sun in the sky.

How exactly would you expect scientist to convey this information to you if it were being censored by the media?

Scientific publications? Scientific websites? Personal websites? Blogs? Facebook? Twitter?

And I don't think that this sort of thing would be at all possible to be censored by the media. Nor would they want to. Can you imagine how many views a credible story about our impending doom would generate? They would be all over that. Which means that they would have to be paid off more than that to keep their mouths shut. And that's every single possible source of that information. That's a lot.

There's supposedly another star within 1 AU from us right now according to this. How could it possibly be limited to sunrise and sunset? That's right, it can't be.

That's probably true, I was just relaying what the claim states. However to play devils advocate, if a star 1/10th the size of the sun were approaching from an angle that placed it opposite the sun from our perspective then I could see how we might be unable to see it directly until it was too late.

Scientific publications? Scientific websites? Personal websites? Blogs? Facebook? Twitter?

Some might argue that those are forms of media that would also be subject to censorship, legal or otherwise, especially for top secret information. Also some might argue that those methods of information dispersal are exactly how this claim reached you to begin with.

Can you imagine how many views a credible story about our impending doom would generate?

If the world were about to end then how much would any of that stuff really matter anyways.

Which means that they would have to be paid off more than that to keep their mouths shut.

You assume that the only way the gov't can censor media is by paying them off. Who knows maybe this story (or something like it) is why people like Micheal Hastings got killed. Just a thought, take it for what you will.

This is disinformation. She relates this conspiracy to just about every other conspiracy in the books, 9/11 Boston bombing, DUMBs, TV propaganda, religion etc she really somehow mentioned just about everything i could think of. Then wraps it up in a completely insane idea that these conspiracys are all linked together to some crazy planet that's going to kill everyone.

When everyone doesn't die and this is debunked, those new to conspiracys can easily dismiss the many other conspiracies that she used to back this one up as being just as insane and nutty.

Classic disinfo.

I think the joke will be on...like everyone if you're wrong, so I personally hope you're right about it being disinfo.

Gah seriously?

Seriously? You gotta work a little bit harder than this to freak most people here out. Personally I've probably seen about 5 million end of the world predictions come and go. They're bullshit and distractions and way too easy to hype because they just work by poking our monkey brain with a stick.

And the trick is to keep saying "Oh I hope I'm wrong but what if I'm not" which puts the onus on the listener to lend the theory credence "for his own safety."

Typical con game stuff. just a simple trick of the mind to convince people they need to be concerned and giving just enough detail to make it seem credible.

You're trying way too hard to not be an obvious troll. FYI, your post wasn't even read.

Nice one. I'm not a troll, dude. You've just posted nonsense. Let's meet up in 10 days when we're still alive and I'll explain again how easy it is to see that you're either being duped or just trying to get attention.

That's the easiest and best way to settle this.

If we all die, my last thought will be "well shit, I guess no1113 was right."

Fair enough?

Let's meet up in 10 days when we're still alive and I'll explain again how easy it is to see that you're either being duped or just trying to get attention.

What? Dude WHO CARES if I'm wrong? Seriously. Who. Cares? I'm telling you right now I HOPE I'm wrong. Helllllo. Facepalm. How stupid do you have to be to think that I'm hoping I'm right? WTF?

I'm not believing or disbelieving the information. That's the difference between me and you. I'm just putting the information I came across out there for others to see. That's it.

That's the easiest and best way to settle this.

Dude. That's really sad (on your part). You see, there's nothing to settle. It simply is what it is.

What are you going to do if the information is wrong? Are you going to come back here on Sunday 8/18/13 and say "Ha ha! See, no1113? We're still alive!" lol. Man...I'm literally just shaking my head at the stupidity of you people.

So what if we're still here on Sunday? Again, THAT WOULD BE A GOOD THING.

We're most certainly all going to die eventually - and that's a good thing. Last thing you want to do is stay in this decrepit human body forever. I just found some info that says it might be happening a lot SOONER than some of us want it to happen. That's all.

If it happens, it happens. If it doesn't. So what?

Don't be a troll or a douche or an asshole about it. Sheesh. It's just stupid to go so far out of your way to shit on information that you might be wrong about.

It really didn't seem like 161719 was trolling. Perhaps a bit exasperated sounding, but I think that's understandable given there have been a lot of doomsday prophecies that haven't panned out.

edit: clarification that i meant /u/161719

Everyone would be 100% correct in saying that there have been a lot of doomsday prophecies that haven't panned out for sure. It's one thing to point that out, however, and quite another to attempt to bash the messenger for simply bringing up another source for people to see and be made aware of. I've no problem with anyone saying "This might turn out to be nothing." Hell, not only do I agree with that, but I've already over and over said that I personally actually HOPE it's nothing. However, there have been so many people on here that have gone really out of their way to be unnecessarily mean that one has to wonder why on Earth would they do that?

Anyway. The fact that you came here to give someone the benefit of the doubt shows that you're not one of the ones that are being unnecessarily mean, so that's good.

You're right about a fair amount being unnecessarily mean. After I wrote my comment I read further down the page and saw a lot of them. I guess i just felt that /u/16719 was being called out for stuff he/she didn't really do. Anyway, you and I both know that people come to this subreddit to make fun of stuff like this and people who believe it so that's where some of that comes from. It's also probably partially a kind of psychological self-preservation response - make fun of something that terrifies you and hope that that empty spot in your knowledge is filled with good things and not bad. I don't condone the derision necessarily, and I think some folks here legitimately don't see enough evidence to give it more credence than any other doomsday concerns from the past. It's reddit so it might be setting expectations a little high to hope everybody involved is super serious, particularly if they don't feel the subject is worth concern.

I dunno. Benefit of the doubt, empathy, etc. was really just trying to help.

It's also probably partially a kind of psychological self-preservation response

Yep. That it for the most part is. I guess I just get tired of seeing it. I know it comes predominately from fear, and the person doing it is more a little frightened child inside than anything else, but it can still get pretty frustrating when that person gets pretty antagonistic and hubristic. Very frustrating. One can only take the "forgive them for they know not what they do" philosophy so far before you have to start coming back with some "stfu" responses yourself.

make fun of something that terrifies you and hope that that empty spot in your knowledge is filled with good things and not bad.

Yeah. I get that, but I look at it this way: make fun of something that educate yourself as much as you can about what terrifies you and hope that that empty spot in your knowledge is filled with good things and not bad.

That's been my life philosophy for a while now, and while I may still not know a lot about a lot of things, I still try to tread slowly and inform myself about as much as possible.

I think some folks here legitimately don't see enough evidence to give it more credence than any other doomsday concerns from the past.

Great. And, as I said a bunch, I honestly hope they're all very correct.

It's reddit so it might be setting expectations a little high to hope everybody involved is super serious

Yeah. Very correct, unfortunately.

I dunno. Benefit of the doubt, empathy, etc. was really just trying to help.

And that you did, good sir. You helped by, if nothing else, simply sharing constructive energy without being a jerk. It's possible to not agree and still be cool. Thanks. :)

One can only take the "forgive them for they know not what they do" philosophy so far before you have to start coming back with some "stfu" responses yourself.

Just be careful. I've heard that humans have a subconscious tendency to begin adopting behaviors they are exposed to regularly unless they are particularly strong-willed. I'd hate to see someone as thoughtful as yourself behaving like the trolls and antagonistic people you encounter when you speak your mind.

Thanks for the kind words, and for engaging me in this conversation. :]

Just be careful. I've heard that humans have a subconscious tendency to begin adopting behaviors they are exposed to regularly unless they are particularly strong-willed.

Well...I can definitely say in no uncertain terms that I can absolutely be a total asshole. I've heard it from many people here, and from a few people in real life. I'm not super certain that Reddit is the one that brought that out or if I've always just been a bit of a jerk though. I think maybe a bit of both.

I do try to be even-headed though. The Latin blood in me gets me going quick though.

I'd hate to see someone as thoughtful as yourself behaving like the trolls and antagonistic people you encounter when you speak your mind.

Honestly, that is so very kind of you, and I do appreciate that greatly. Thanks for the considerate sentiment. Again, I certainly at least try to be courteous, but my fuse can suddenly be pretty short if I come across a troll. I guess I'm the type that tends to give back what I get in spades regardless of whether it's good (as is the case here), or bad (as is often the case on Reddit in general). I will continue to work on that, and thank you again for the kind reminder and encouragement.

Peace,

Just to note in regards to what you thought was disinfo... Today, (17 Aug) the day she was talking about, an M3-class solar flare erupted on the sun.

Not exactly 'were all dead', but she may not be completely nuts.

How does this solar flare prove its not disinfo? Didn't she predict an earthquake? As far as I remember, I don't think she even mentioned a solar flare.

If we were about to be hit by a giant star wouldn't there be a huge glow in the sky at night that is bigger than all the other stars? (Honest question, I don't know much about astronomy)

If we were about to be hit by a giant star

According to the information in the OP, there actually won't be a collision with the red dwarf star. That'll be too far away. It won't be the star we have to worry about. There won't even be any collision with one of the star's seven planets.

According to the information, what will happen is that there will be a stellar/planetary passing between one or more of the red dwarf's planets and the Earth of sufficient proximity that it will alter and significantly effect Earth's gravitational field. Not only will the Earth's gravitational field be significantly effected, but the Earth's waters/oceans will move and turn at different and faster rates than are currently the case - causing tsunamis that will absolutely wipe out all coastal cities bar none.

wouldn't there be a huge glow in the sky at night that is bigger than all the other stars?

The speaker mentions an added haze that can be noted during sun up and sun down as one looks in the direction of the sun. I've noticed an added haze around the sun when I look in that direction, but I also live in Los Angeles, so I don't know if it's just more crazy smog/pollution.

People have been filming what appear to be two suns in the sky. They will show where the sun is setting and then at the opposite end of the sky they see a bright light from beyond the horizon or clouds.

Yeah. I've seen a clip of this. It seems to give a bit of weight to Brassard's claims...ominous as that is...

The second sun - in orbit around the sun we are familiar with - is a red giant that itself has an accompanying seven other planets revolving around it.

That's not how binary systems work.

Oh. Really? Okay. How does a binary system work then?

A binary system results of two bodies orbiting around a common center of mass. It would contradict most proven theories of binary starts to have two stars with separate bodies orbiting around each other individually.

While it is extremely possible for the current accepted sets of planets to orbit around this comment center of mass, it is implausible for each star to orbit around this center while having individual planets orbiting around them separately.

Edit: look at the theory of space time and how these bodies interact, even in hand written notes of Einstein and the likes who have studied this, it's relatively implausible. Also, why would anyone hide these sets of planets who discovered them? It would be a Nobel prize instantly.

A binary system results of two bodies orbiting around a common center of mass. It would contradict most proven theories of binary starts to have two stars with separate bodies orbiting around each other individually.

There is nothing about what I said or how I described a binary star system that would preclude two stars orbiting around a common center/one another, etc.

While it is extremely possible for the current accepted sets of planets to orbit around this comment center of mass, it is implausible for each star to orbit around this center while having individual planets orbiting around them separately.

Why so? The accompanying planets need not have enough mass to immediately pull the stars off their momentary orbit. The stars could have enough momentum to orbit for a certain amount of time before their accompanying planets pull them off that orbit. This could happen over the course of millions or billions of years though, so what I've postulated is in no way unsound in the context of human spans of time.

Edit: look at the theory of space time and how these bodies interact, even in hand written notes of Einstein and the likes who have studied this, it's relatively implausible.

There's a lot Einstein didn't understand.

Also, why would anyone hide these sets of planets who discovered them?

I could see a LOT of reasons why such information would be hidden if the discovering of such other planets necessarily leads to the understanding of a coming global catastrophe for the planet Earth and the human race living on it.

It would be a Nobel prize instantly.

The Nobel prize is a joke.

I could see a LOT of reasons why such information would be hidden if the discovering of such other planets necessarily leads to the understanding of a coming global catastrophe for the planet Earth and the human race living on it.

I can see more reasons why the information would be published for exactly the same reasoning.

The Nobel prize is a joke.

There's five of them you know (plus a fake). Three of them are perfectly fine.

I can see more reasons why the information would be published for exactly the same reasoning.

Not if the elite prefer you and me and most of us dead.

Why would they? What do they have stopping them from being killed as well? And how does that explain the billions of people that should be able to just look up in the sky and see this thing and CAN'T?

Why would they?

Because the majority of us are a blight upon the planet?

What do they have stopping them from being killed as well?

DUMBs - which Brassard said won't actually help them, but they're at least working very diligently at them none the less.

And how does that explain the billions of people that should be able to just look up in the sky and see this thing and CAN'T?

You keep asking the same question, and I keep giving you the same answer. And that is that I don't have "all the answers". If the interviewer/Brassard is wrong, then she's wrong. Um...that's a good thing by the way, in case you didn't actually know that.

It seems you're trying a bit too hard to be "the right one" here, when the fact of the matter is that this subject is so beyond trying to be right or wrong one way or the other. As far as I'm concerned, it's just about making people aware of information. That's it. If it turns out to be not right, then okay. Hey, that's great actually.

Veering too strongly to one side or the other (i.e. "It's definitely going to happen!" or "There's no way it's going to happen!") seems equally stupid though, and, again, you seem to be spending way too much time and energy looking for ways to nit pick and show why this individual is wrong.

Again, if they're wrong, then good. Your trying as hard as you are to show that she's wrong, however, speaks very strangely of you in particular and your motives.

you seem to be spending way too much time and energy looking for ways to nit pick and show why this individual is wrong.

Yes, you are absolutely right about that. And I'm done now.

Good. Look at the "EDIT" I made in the OP, btw. Just a slight bit of added info.

EDIT: I would say that the added information I posted in the "EDIT" goes toward the "has anyone else seen or verified this second star?" question you had. Might not be readily seen by the naked eye yet, but apparently, some have indeed seen it and verified the reality of its existence.

Huh, maybe I was wrong. I was under the impression that the orbits you described would be incredibly unstable, but it appears that it is possible, if unlikely.

Still doesn't explain why nobody has announced their discovery of this second sun. If there's a red giant that's close enough that it's going to kill us all in seven days, we should be able to see it quite easily (likely even in the daytime).

I was under the impression that the orbits you described would be incredibly unstable, but it appears that it is possible, if unlikely.

Well, honestly, I actually didn't describe any specific orbit, so I'm not sure exactly what you're referring to when you say "the orbits you described". I imagine that there can be a great deal of variation in orbits, so I imagine that a LOT is very, very possible and much more likely than we in our very limited understanding of the universe might suppose.

Still doesn't explain why nobody has announced their discovery of this second sun.

I responded to that to some limited extent here.

If there's a red giant that's close enough that it's going to kill us all in seven days, we should be able to see it quite easily (likely even in the daytime).

That seems to be sound reasoning to me as well, but I also know that there might be something else happening that I might not be accounting for.

I used to work for a military contractor, and held a security clearance. I'm privy to a lot of information that THEY don't want you to know … like the exact fuel capacity in gallons of the F-22 for instance.

And I tell you that leprechauns are real, and they're angry. Google Lucky Charms and prepare yourself for the coming reckoning.

If the information turns out to not be valid, then so be it. Being facetious, however, in no way whatsoever helps those working toward the discovery of truth one way or the other. You came here to make a comment that doesn't help the discussion. Perhaps you feel good about that.

Okay. I hope it's improved your day.

What do you mean "if?" Of course the information isn't valid. You don't have to have a degree in astronomy to know that the assertions you repeated here are even more fantastical than what I said about leprechauns. It's at least conceivable that leprechauns might exist and we just don't know it. But the idea that there's another star out there that's close enough to us to have any kind of affect on the solar system and yet so far away that it's never been observed is risible. You only need a basic education in the sciences to know that.

Please stop saying things like "the discovery of truth" when what you really mean is "the indulgence of fantasy."

I think the point /u/no1113 is trying to make is that even if this claim is ridiculous, making fun of it doesn't help anyone. There are many people that a few years ago if you had told them the gov't is recording every single phone call, text message, and email they make then they would have likely made fun of you too. If you want to state that a claim is invalid then that is fine, but you might find that it is far more productive to present your reasoning in a scientific manner as appose to being a sarcastic jackass about it. Just a thought, take it for what you will.

making fun of it doesn't help anyone.

Yeah. It does. See, an important skill (and one which many people lack) is the ability to distinguish between sense and nonsense. Pointing out that something is nonsense is very useful for those who wouldn't have figured it out otherwise.

present your reasoning in a scientific manner

There is no way to discuss this "in a scientific manner." It's just gibberish. There's nothing here to talk about.

Pointing out that something is nonsense is very useful for those who wouldn't have figured it out otherwise.

You know what is even better then jokes at helping those who haven't figured it out? Facts, Reason, and Rationality.

There is no way to discuss this "in a scientific manner." It's just gibberish. There's nothing here to talk about.

That is just plainly untrue, and the fact that you don't see that tells me that you have no interest in trying. There are many ways one could discredit this claim in a scientific manner including, but not limited to:

Analyzing telescopic images of the area of space in which this "2nd sun" should be, or reviewing geological data collected from the time in history in which this supposedly happened before. One could also bring validity of the claim into question by providing evidence that the statement that

'the asteroid belt was created by the direct impact of a planet from this system with a planet of the 2nd system during one of the close passes in the past'

was untrue. This claim made during the interview in question, which you likely have not even listened too.

These are just a few example off the top of my head and anyone of a rational and scientific nature could likely find hundreds if not thousands of other ways to disprove this claim (assuming it is in fact untrue) if they were to try.

You're joking, right? The planetary-breakup-formation theory of the asteroid belt was discredited decades ago when it was found that the entire asteroid belt masses less than three percent of our moon.

You don't need to be an actual astrophysicist to smell the bullshit here, man. You just need a basic education in the world around you. There is nothing here to disprove, because there's nothing that's even remotely plausible. There isn't any doubt here.

[deleted]

That's hilarious, and you'll never know why.

[deleted]

Sure thing, man. Whatever you say.

See, now we are getting somewhere, care too link to valid source a that supports you? or should I take your word for it.

You should have even the tiniest interest in being an educated person, is what you should do. Spoiler alert: Demanding that others spoon-feed you information which is instantly available to you from where you sit isn't it.

I purposefully chose not research your claim, not because I want to be ignorant, nor because I think you are wrong (There is a pretty good change you aren't). Rather I am trying to make a point about how there is a right and a wrong way to hold a scientific discussion.

Spoiler alert: basing your argument around research that you then fail to source is the wrong way.

I purposefully chose not research your claim

Kay.

because I think you are wrong

Kay.

I am trying to make a point about how there is a right and a wrong way to hold a scientific discussion.

Mmm…kay.

Congratulations you misquoted me while failing to bring forward anything of relevance, aren't you fucking special. Clearly you are some troll with no interest in science or reason so unless you respond to this comment with something intellectually valid (unlikely) then I am done talk too you.

Goodbye

Hang on a second. Go back to the part where you specifically chose not to learn anything new because you brought your own prejudices to the party, and yet I am the one who isn't interested in what you (possibly quite wrongly) call "science" or "reason" or, indeed, "intellectual validity."

Go back to that part. Cause it was hilarious.

Wow. You're impressively close minded. Very impressively close minded.

In the sense that I reject nonsense rather than entertaining that which has no merit? Yup. I sure am, friend. I sure am.

Nope. Not in the sense that you think. But yeah. You sure definitely are in another sense.

Explain yourself.

Why? So you could continue to do your little cognitive dissonance dance? Na. You're comments and your energy are definitely not worth it.

At the end of the day, as I already said to others here, I personally would prefer for the interviewee to be wrong and for NOTHING to happen in a week or so. That would be great. I'm not looking forward to the possibility of drowning or getting UV fried or whatever.

I think it's important to help people know about information, however. I would rather let people know and be wrong than to simply not let anyone know. That's all.

It's pretty clear that "cognitive dissonance" doesn't mean what you seem to think it means.

That aside, though, you really need to wrap your head around the difference between information and lies. This stuff you've cited here? It's not information. It's lies. The things asserted are demonstrably false. There is no other sun out there about to rain catastrophe down on us all in a week. Do you understand that it takes years for celestial bodies to move along their orbits? If there were a star gravitationally bound to our sun, it'd be unmistakable in the sky thousands of years before it got close enough to us to have any effect on anything.

This is all just nonsense. And because you're not sufficiently educated — apparently — to see that it's nonsense, you're spreading more nonsense. And then (this is the best part) getting all uppity with people who tell you it's nonsense.

Grow up. Seriously. Crack a book sometime.

You're a fucking idiot, man. Seriously. I didn't even read the entirety of what you wrote. Enough feeding the trolls. Your energy is laughably caustic. Your own darkness is eating itself.

I'll let you continue to consume yourself with your own stupidity. I'll let you have the last comment. Go ahead.

The brilliance is strong with this one..

You've got to be one of the most daft people I've ran across on Reddit.

Here, let an astrophysicist/cosmologist explain to you why there is nothing else beyond our solar system as, "all gravity has been accounted for in our solar system." There is no planet X, there is no 2nd sun.

The indoctrination is strong in this one.

No you nitwit, it's called science.

You should probably brush up on the basics. I get that you watched a 30 minute video and suddenly are now some type of 'authority' on the matter but basic middle school science says otherwise.

You need to seek professional help, really. It's sad that you have at your fingertips the most powerful tool ever created in the history of mankind for the exchange of knowledge and information (Internet), yet still attempt to rationalize foolish theories then spew crackpot amateur opinions on top of actually trying to defend them in some warped sense of understanding you believe you correctly possess.

Bro, do you even read?

You're sad. I hope you can figure out how to keep the vitriol from continuing to spread in you like that cancer that it is.

Good luck.

If you constantly stare into empty dark rooms long enough you'll definitely start seeing shadows move around in it.

Good luck, indeed!

What's consummately sad is that you are entirely unaware of the significance of what you just said.

Oh well.

Best,

I have an abundance of vacation left and Its "use it or lose it" so might as well use it! Honestly I hope this is just completely wrong. It is a really hardcore far reaching conspiracy that would take an extreme amount of effort to cover up to this point. Not dismissing it but man, wouldn't it suck. Spend all your time researching and trying to find the truth all for it to go up in smoke.

I have an abundance of vacation left and Its "use it or lose it" so might as well use it!

lol. Don't do it before the 17th though. If the the 17th comes and goes and there is no change in the atmosphere, etc, then you might wish you would have held back on those vacation days.

Honestly I hope this is just completely wrong.

You and me both. I'm not sure of too many people that would actually WANT something like this to happen. I mean I imagine the elites might want a lot of us dead, but I don't know if they would prefer to have to deal with all the nuclear fallout involved in having it happen this way.

It is a really hardcore far reaching conspiracy that would take an extreme amount of effort to cover up to this point.

What is? Covering it up? If that's what you're referring to, then I would say not really. There are a lot of other even more far reaching realities that have been covered up via PTB conspiracies, so I wouldn't be too surprised if this situation were successfully covered up as well.

Not dismissing it but man, wouldn't it suck.

It would suck, and I personally don't think that saying so is dismissing it.

Spend all your time researching and trying to find the truth all for it to go up in smoke.

Well I wouldn't go that far. We are not physical beings that occasionally have spiritual experiences. We are spiritual beings that occasionally have physical experiences - and being human on this planet is one of those experiences. After this life is done - whether it ends naturally and peacefully, or whether it gets engulfed in a planetary catastrophe - then the physical manifestation will be finished. The energy that created that manifestation won't be finished, however.

Kansas sinkhole doesn't make me feel better. Relevant? http://abcnews.go.com/m/story?id=19864870&ref=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com%2F

If this does not happen, can the OP try to follow up and post her explanation?

I think that would be a good idea.

Regarding your edit (yeah, I said I was done, but then you brought in new information. I'll just respond quick and get out.):

From the video:

...lurking at the outermost reaches of our solar system, far beyond the planet[sic] Pluto.

I think they're talking about Tyche. If it does in fact exist, it's estimated that it would be about 500 times further from the Sun than Neptune. In order for it to reach us within seven days, as required for it to be the same object originally discussed in the OP, it would need to travel at 12 times the speed of light. In other words, it, while interesting, is not actually relevant to this discussion in any way.

This post right here on your part is actually rather significant and indicative of possibly the whole of our conversation and the other posts you've submitted here in that, while it does have some worth to it and cannot be discarded offhand, it continues to miss rather important points that heavily change the status of the conclusions which you ultimately draw.

That "EDIT" post I offered was actually put up coming on two years ago. A lot of travel can take place in that time. That fact combined with the very remedial level of understanding humans have about the universe in general (we are more babies than anything else where it regards what we actually know in that area) means that we should be very careful where it regards what information we discard offhand.

I guess we have to wait and see...

Yes, sir/ma'am. That is correct. Well-said.

I've read through all your comments here and I agree with you. I felt uneasy listening to this just thinking the whole time "What if she's right?" I would imagine that if what she was saying is true then we really should be able to see at the very least the planets it is traveling with. I also would imagine that more than one person would have the compassion for their species to try and display this info. I also think The way she tied 9/11 into it was a bit discrediting to her and almost just thrown in there...I do find it weird though that FEMA has been stock piling food and amo. I remember seeing the video about the rouge star in your edit months and months ago and immediately thought of it when I first heard the interview on the 7th. And it does seem a bit odd that the governments of the world aren't pouring every available resource into solving the Fukushima disaster...maybe they don't think it necessary considering the impending doom. It's probably going to be nothing. And like you have said that would be a GOOD thing...but there are some dots than can be connected to lend a ray of credibility to her words...even if it makes me nuts I think it's a possibility.

Well-said - all of this. It's about having a balanced perspective. Don't go too far one way or the other. She might be right, as a lot of what she's said does seem to be based on sound reasoning and empirical evidence (FEMA camps, DUMBs, Fukushima, etc). She might be wrong, however...and HOPEFULLY, she is wrong. However, she seems to believe what she's saying, and she seems to be sound enough in how she's explaining things, so it wouldn't be wise to discard the information offhand as so many here have done.

Just wait and see, I guess.

Lol hey...just an interesting video I came across. I can't link from my phone but YouTube search for channel user "grimvolf" and watch his latest video...I hope it's fake.

All I keep getting is some metal dude on youtube. Is that who you're referring to? His latest video looks like a music video with lots of blood and some bald dude.

And yeah. I hope it's fake too.

Somehow, I don't think that's what you were referring to though, was it?

That is indeed pretty interesting, sir. Pretty interesting indeed.

Noo. Dude video taped 2 suns...after reading through a number of comments it seems it was filmed through a window...still worth a watch if you can find. Grimvolf is the subscriber name...I see the metal dude too but haven't clicked it.

Googled "two suns, grimvolf", but still nothing. If you get by a computer, link me.

The hostility in the back-and-forths on this thread are rather absurd, namely the hostility toward those who are doing anything but completely writing it off as complete horseshit, immediately and without question.

For horseshit, it sure has the attention of naysayers.

Anyhoo. I don't believe or disbelieve it. The only remarkable thing about the interview-- to me-- was just how goddamn sure she was about what she was saying. It was striking. Is she batshit insane? Quite possibly. Is she right? Who knows. The sad part is the level of vitriol present in the posts of those denouncing her and the idea itself is smackingly similar to those who still deny 9/11. Insist your opinion is fact, irrefutable, concrete proof, and then when challenged, resort to name-calling. Quite sad.

The hostility in the back-and-forths on this thread are rather absurd

Agreed.

namely the hostility toward those who are doing anything but completely writing it off as complete horseshit, immediately and without question.

Doubly agreed.

For horseshit, it sure has the attention of naysayers.

Yeah. I've actually been surprised at how much heat this OP has gotten.

I don't believe or disbelieve it. The only remarkable thing about the interview-- to me-- was just how goddamn sure she was about what she was saying.

Dude. Exactly. That's what I'm saying as well. This is a great part of the reason why I even made this darn OP. It's because, like I said, this lady does NOT sound like a kook, and she confidently states a lot of information pertaining to what she alleges. As I said, it might all be nothing. I, again, HOPE it's nothing. I'll be pretty pleased if all the moronic naysayers can come back on here on the 18th and say "Na na! She was wrong!" I'll say "Great! Thank goodness!" But thus far, she sounds pretty confident and not like some crazy bag lady type.

Is she batshit insane? Quite possibly. Is she right? Who knows.

Yeah. We're pretty much essentially on the same wavelength in this area.

The sad part is the level of vitriol present in the posts of those denouncing her and the idea itself is smackingly similar to those who still deny 9/11.

It feels to me like there's actually a lot of fear masking as vitriol, arrogance, and hubris on here. I try to let it slide off, but some of the ignorance is downright flabbergasting.

Insist your opinion is fact, irrefutable, concrete proof, and then when challenged, resort to name-calling. Quite sad.

All well-said, sir.

Try to keep an open mind while still having a level head. Isn't that what this subreddit is supposed to be about, after all?

Anyway. Thanks for your thoughts.

Peace,

Posting to read this later.

Thanks for the post.

Take it w/a grain of salt, but keep an open mind. I for one hope the information is mistaken, but there seems to be a certain soundness to it.

Hey today is the day that she was talking about. There was an M3-class solar flare today. here

That's right! Thanks for reminding me. I'm going to make another OP addressing the fact that we're all still here. :)

The solar flare is certainly interesting, but I think we've had pretty big solar flares before and nobody died right?

The guy sounds like he is making it up as he goes along. I don't believe anything he is saying. He makes Cliff High sound like an Oscar winner. Everything he has said is available via youtube 'conspiracy' documentaries.

He is full of it, expert in every random conspiracy mentioned?

Full of it.

While she may indeed be full of shit, the notion that she is so because she doesn't have good public speaking is pretty invalid. Most people are terrible public speakers, that doesn't mean that they are lying. If anything I would be more vary of the 'whistle blowers' that are good public speakers seeing as most people who are in a position to leak information have no reason to have practiced and developed that skill.

You came here to be nothing but a naysayer? Like...and unqualified, complete naysayer? Did you even listen to anything that was said? Any of it whatsoever?

The fact that you say "the guy" and kept talking like that when it's actually a FEMALE and not a male in the first place almost entirely invalidates what you're saying here. It shows you as being someone who's come on here to be nothing more than a very uncritical type of person that doesn't even pay attention to basic information.

That's actually kind of embarrassing and shameful considering this subreddit should be more open to real investigation than that.

[deleted]

End of the day, we'll find out in a week or so. Correct.

And you know what? I hope YOU are actually correct in your assessment. As I said in another post here, I'm in no way afraid at all of death itself, but I'm not crazy about the possibility of drowning, or frying, or being nuked, or having to undergo some serious pain or torture on the way toward death.

That part would suck.

This video is very important. It connects EVERYTHING.

This video is very important. It connects EVERYTHING.

Perhaps you're being sarcastic. If you are, then you should have put an "/s" after your statement. If you weren't, then I'd say you might actually be alone in the sentiment you expressed here, as I don't know anyone who actually feels the video connects "everything".

[deleted]

Whaaat? Of course not. lol. I'm just some dude passing on the information. Just because I don't immediately and reflexively discard the information without stopping to critically think about what's actually being said (like various posters on here have done) you think I'm Patti Brassard? I've already said on many occasions here that I hope she's wrong. She provides interesting information that it seems to me should be listened to, however. That's all.

[deleted]

But you just did that on my post.

I immediately and reflexively discarded what information without stopping to critically think about what you actually said? That I'm possibly Pattie Brassard? What? I'm not following what you said I did. Explain please.

I would file this one away in the National Enquirer section of conspiracy theories.

Even though it has indeed been discovered that this solar system - having another star relatively nearby (in AUs) - is, as a result, indeed a binary star system (like "the national inquiry lady" said) and not a single one like we've always been told?

What was her Facebook page And or a link to the navy map.

THIS is, allegedly, the map the US Navy took receipt of recently.

At the end of the day, remember-- allegedly.

I have no idea what the answer is to any of these two questions. I don't know what her fb page was/is and I don't have a link to any navy map. Apologies.

That's ok, anybody have any websites map links that show a sea level rise of 100m or more?

That would certainly be interesting information if anyone has it. One would think that effects that we will presumably be able to start feeling this coming Saturday will possibly already begin making their presence known now/already...but perhaps not. I'm not looking forward to her being right, and I hope she's not, because if she is...then...

shudder.

Well yes, like anything, with a grain of salt. All this is telling us (like a million other scenarios) is to be self sufficient, And non-reliant on the daily milk and food delivery. I haven't prepared, the divorce from the ex-wife financially done me over. So when the power goes.. My electric stove top is useless. Cold baked beans for me then..

Well yes, like anything, with a grain of salt.

Agreed. However, there do seem to be various signs that seem to lend some sort of credence to what she says - the link in the "EDIT" I provided being one of them.

All this is telling us (like a million other scenarios) is to be self sufficient, And non-reliant on the daily milk and food delivery.

Correct. Most of us have allowed ourselves to become lazy at the hands of TPTB, however...and here we are.

I haven't prepared, the divorce from the ex-wife financially done me over. So when the power goes.. My electric stove top is useless. Cold baked beans for me then..

...if I can even find a can opener that is...

The first thing OP does is refer to ATS - which is a website that is absolutely rife with people who are simply naysayers. Referencing that site as a source is immediate grounds for being skeptical about the claims.

Secondly, he then follows up by saying that Brassard is a "NASA whistleblower". I don't recall her ever actually saying she was in NASA. She was in the military - not NASA, right? This, again, doesn't seem to bode well for the information itself as far as it being valid or sound.

Regardless of these two faux pas, if what is said in the Godlike productions link that OP provided is true (yet another site that has a less than stellar reputation), then it would seem that Patti Brassard is indeed a hoax.

If that's true, then you have provided a pretty good service, and I definitely thank you for that. As I said from the beginning, I hope this is all b.s. and wrong.

I also referenced your response here above in my own OP so as to hopefully clear the air regarding what this situation might be about. Thanks again.

I made it about 11 minutes, and I'll listen to the rest later (only one thing at a time in Alien Blue).

Anyway, she said that a large, probably 15 scale quake will hit Seattle. I live near Seattle, and the 17th is only a few days before my birthday.

Should I be expecting a wild month? Besides food prep, what should I do?

Should I be expecting a wild month?

If she's correct, everyone should expect more than just a wild month.

Besides food prep, what should I do?

She goes into a bit of detail, but she mentions burying a Faraday cage 3ft under ground and planning on hanging out in there for a few days at least.

Appreciated.

Also! Do you know what date that was recorded? There was an awesome lightning storm last night (just like she said). Check out /r/Seattle for some pics

Do you know what date that was recorded?

I don't know what date is was recorded, but the youtube video was posted on August 6th, so only just four days ago.

There was an awesome lightning storm last night (just like she said).

O_o

Dude, are you retarded? There is no second sun and we are all not dying in 7 days. If you believe this, you need to seek some mental help.

Did you see the EDIT? If you did, and you still stand by what you just said here, then it's not me that needs the mental help.

Interplanetary disaster pornography. Complete with "oooh I hope she's wrong."

I've seen so many of these things come and go. Megaquakes, supervolcanoes, blackswans, solarflares, huge this, giant that.

And now I'm supposed to believe that only this random person knows that we actually have two suns. No one in all of human history noticed it until this indeterminate gendered messiah arrives to tell us we've all been duped?

This is pure rubbish, sorry. It's porn.

The current meteors are due to the Perseid meteor shower which happens every year.

http://www.space.com/22311-promising-perseid-meteor-shower-will-peak-soon.html

Interesting how you've apparently entirely ignored the "EDIT" where CNN reports on a brown dwarf star that is, in terms of AUs, nearby and is...what? "pure rubbish" too right?

Okay, buddy.

looks like miss pattie , er patrick ? has been reading some zeta talks $ then some : !?

**"As we predicted would occur during the 8 of 10 phase, visibility of the Planet X complex has increased. As we have explained, Planet X and the Earth assume a more side-by-side posture during the 8 of 10 phase, Planet X moving forward in its path but the Earth pulling far to the left where it is trapped within the cup. Visibility increases because the angle of bounce for sunlight reflected off the vast dust cloud that shrouds both Planet X and the Moon Swirls is more optimal. When the Planet X complex was positioned more between the Earth and Sun, the bounce most often returned sunlight to the Sun or to the side, off into space. It was the rare times when the angle was right, at sunrise or sunset, that the people of Earth saw what they thought were two suns rising or setting. Now this optimal angle is present for most of the day.

Video captures, by experts who adjust the hue to explore what appears under various light spectrums, have begun appearing on the Internet, asserting that a large object can be seen under the Sun or somewhat to the right or left of this position. The objects look spherical, distinct, implying they are planets rather than Moon Swirls. Are any of these objects the Planet X corpus itself? During the decade that Planet X has been in the inner solar system, slowly making its way past the Sun, Planet X has presented many faces, including the Monster Persona where it looks huge and perfectly round. This is caused by light fanning outward but then being drawn back by the gravity of Earth. Where the Monster is not the size of Planet X, the light rays originate FROM Planet X, thus documenting its current location just under the Ecliptic.

Some of the recent captures are of Moon Swirls, so extremely bright (as has been their characteristic) that in one case a video captured a lens flare from the Moon Swirl. Thus proving the Moon Swirl is distinct, not in and of itself a Moon Swirl. What will this increased visibility mean for the lingering cover-up, not yet dealt a death blow as of today, July 13, 2013 by Obama’s planned announcement. This visibility has created increased chatter on the Internet, a growing sense in the public that they are being lied to about the erratic weather, sudden tides, and Sun and Moon obviously out of place. After the announcement, there will be many who will claim Nibiru, aka Planet X, is a falsehood, still in denial or attempting to placate mankind so they remain on the coastlines and in their jobs. This visibility is thus a great weapon against that type of disinformation."**

This is complete bullshit. Its just nibiru all over again.

Okay. As I've said about a million times already, lets hope for your sake and everyone's sake that you're right. If not, then nobody will be around to tell you how stupid you were for saying this.

[deleted]

The belief that headed our way is a Nibiru-esque second sun and its seven invisible planets that no one has seen and has not disconcerted Earth gravitationally is either bordering on insanity or just plain ignorance. As has been mentioned before, the science does not support it.

Here

Here

Here

Here

...and about three billion other pieces of material on the subject you would dispute. Your claims are more outlandish than dear Pattie's.

Was going to respond at length to your fear-based ignorance, but GunsRGud already did so well enough.

Bullshit. Absolute bullshit.

Keep telling yourself that. If you're wrong, however...well, at least the good news is that there won't be anyone around to tell you how stupid you were, right?

Hah. Just don't delete your account when you're wrong, so I can rub your face in how deluded and wrong you are. Seriously. With so much knowledge at your fingertips via the internet, the things you choose to believe are quite depressing.

That's so fucking stupid. I mean really. You're like...embarrassingly stupid. I haven't for once said that the speaker IS RIGHT. I've actually literally said that I hope the speaker IS WRONG. If the speaker IS wrong? Then great. What is there about any of that that will make you come back and be happy about "rubbing it in my face"? Seriously? Damn.

Wow. You people really are just...stupid...dense. Seriously.

What's really depressing is that people like you exist that are this deluded toward moronic antagonism. It's sad really.

Moving on.

A youtube video is not evidence for your position. The position you're advocating is laughably stupid and I will not be proven wrong. The only direction you should move towards is thinking more empirically. What's depressing is you can regard this as any kind of legitimate possibility. I'm 110% convinced you're here trolling this sub.

This is stupid. This is the nibiru bullshit all over again. There is no way that this is remotely true. And even if it was, the "colliding" of two star systems almost never results in the actual planets colliding. Space is too damn big for that to happen. When two galaxies collide NONE of the stars hit eachother. They usually don't even come within a few lightyears. This is just some lady who was on abovetopsecret. Throw her in with the people who believe in indigo children and reptile aliens.

Edit. Extra word

Couldn't even read through all of this. Too much ignorance contained.

I'm ignorant because I consider this idea ridiculous? This idea was all over the internet for years. People thought it was the reason behind the 2012 prophecy. It didn't happen then it won't happen in seven days.

it won't happen in seven days.

I would personally hope not. Enjoy the rest of your day.

You didn't answer my question.

The answer is no. You're ignorant for many, many other reasons along with that one as well.

I'm no less ignorant in my own ways - as is everyone else. It's part of being human.

Some understand this fact better than others.

Ok if I'm ignorant for many reasons give me 3.

So you can try your hardest to deny them? That's playing a child's game, and I'm not here to play children's games. If you think you're not ignorant, or if you even need reasons sited to you in order for you to begin grasping that fact, then your case is already a bit too lost to even understand what anyone could tell you.

I'm sure you'll come up with some witty come back in response to this in order to try and make yourself still seem relevant. Okay.

Nope just here to believe in children stories

Ok if I'm ignorant for many reasons give me 3.

http://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/1k41oa/according_to_this_person_we_are_all_going_to_die/cblyynp

I'm sure examples number two and three (of I don't know how many others) will be shortly forthcoming.

A binary system results of two bodies orbiting around a common center of mass. It would contradict most proven theories of binary starts to have two stars with separate bodies orbiting around each other individually.

There is nothing about what I said or how I described a binary star system that would preclude two stars orbiting around a common center/one another, etc.

While it is extremely possible for the current accepted sets of planets to orbit around this comment center of mass, it is implausible for each star to orbit around this center while having individual planets orbiting around them separately.

Why so? The accompanying planets need not have enough mass to immediately pull the stars off their momentary orbit. The stars could have enough momentum to orbit for a certain amount of time before their accompanying planets pull them off that orbit. This could happen over the course of millions or billions of years though, so what I've postulated is in no way unsound in the context of human spans of time.

Edit: look at the theory of space time and how these bodies interact, even in hand written notes of Einstein and the likes who have studied this, it's relatively implausible.

There's a lot Einstein didn't understand.

Also, why would anyone hide these sets of planets who discovered them?

I could see a LOT of reasons why such information would be hidden if the discovering of such other planets necessarily leads to the understanding of a coming global catastrophe for the planet Earth and the human race living on it.

It would be a Nobel prize instantly.

The Nobel prize is a joke.

It does give one pause. But to think that it will end in a blink of an eye is a lot to think about.

Well...according to her, it'll be a long blink. About three months or so actually.

Not to mention that there are all the other "Aliens" to consider.

Are you referring to the ones that are on this planet? I imagine that they are either taken care of by the MIC or their own interstellar family or part of their voyage/"mission" here on this planet is to experience just such a catastrophic occurrence as the very one that the Brassard mentions is about to occur.

We mere Earthlings aren't alone in this.

This is very, very true.

This is a cosmic shit storm, not mere Earth politics, entirely

Well, at the very least a stellar and solar system shit storm...possibly even a galactic shit storm. I'm sure there's cosmic significance to it too, but I would imagine that the kind of thing Brassard predicts happens all the time on a cosmic level, so there might not be that much brouhaha in the grander universal scheme of things. You're definitely right, however, that it's not just about "Earth politics". That's real small potatoes in comparison with what's really going on.

Should make some good headlines either way.

Yeah...If what Brassard says is valid though, then the news simply won't be around to print any headlines at all.

That would seem to be the case - certainly. I don't know what to say at this point one way or the other about this other than lets wait and see. In a week's time it might all turn out to be bogus. It would be good if it is.

If it's not bogus and she's right, then I guess I can come back here laughing and say "Ha ha! See, you morons! We are all going to die! Woowee! I'm right yet again!...oh wait a minute."

No you nitwit, it's called science.

You should probably brush up on the basics. I get that you watched a 30 minute video and suddenly are now some type of 'authority' on the matter but basic middle school science says otherwise.

You need to seek professional help, really. It's sad that you have at your fingertips the most powerful tool ever created in the history of mankind for the exchange of knowledge and information (Internet), yet still attempt to rationalize foolish theories then spew crackpot amateur opinions on top of actually trying to defend them in some warped sense of understanding you believe you correctly possess.

Bro, do you even read?

Why would they? What do they have stopping them from being killed as well? And how does that explain the billions of people that should be able to just look up in the sky and see this thing and CAN'T?

you seem to be spending way too much time and energy looking for ways to nit pick and show why this individual is wrong.

Yes, you are absolutely right about that. And I'm done now.

I don't think this is the case, we are lead by assholes for sure.

We may not be inherently assholes, but we sure do seem to fall nicely into that category and nestle into it rather well. Just looking at some of the responses on here is rather indicative of that.

I think Humans in general have the potential to be pretty awesome if we could just sort out this government and religion bullshit.

I wouldn't disagree with that...but I think this particular iteration of humanity...might just be on about its last legs. It might be ready for a reboot. The REAL powers that be (not the Earthly ones) might be like "OK. This version is too much of a fuck up too. Time to start over and try another version of humanity. This one's too stupid."

As to treatment of other species, while I don't know about you personally I would be humbled and honored to be in the presence of an advanced alien civilization

As would I most definitely. It seems that there is still too great a percentage of humans that wouldn't feel this way, however, and would react negatively or violently.

As for the notion of a galactic non-interference agreement I think that a lot of people might argue that such a contract was broken long ago.

Yes. This would most certainly seem to be correct...amongst some species. I think there are still some ET civilizations that are still holding fast to that agreement, however.

Also where does one draw the line between primitive/developing and advanced/developed

I'm not sure, but I think we are somewhere in the middle.

we Humans have come pretty far in the last hundred years

Through the likely help of ET beings that gave us technology we wouldn't otherwise have had. I don't think we should take too much credit for how far we've come, therefore.

if we weren't being limited by the petty interests of politics and business I feel like we could go much further.

I wouldn't disagree with this.

While I do believe in the potential of this species, I am totally on board for reincarnating into the advanced civilization that already has this shit sorted out.

Oh well hell yeah. That would be awesome. I wouldn't want to come back to THIS species, but another, better one? Yeah. Sign me up.

I don't know if I would be worthy of reincarnating in that other class though. Depends on the grades I get in this class here on this planet first.

Ok if I'm ignorant for many reasons give me 3.