Has anyone mentioned this yet?

57  2013-08-14 by Delicate-Flower

One of the main reasons people say 9/11 could not have been an inside job is because so many people would have needed to be involved that someone would spill the beans.

However lets look at the recent developments with NSA spying on tbe world as an example of just how many people can know something that the rest would label a conspiracy before it is uncovered to be actual truth.

How many companies knew about the NSA spying programs? How many individuals at those companies knew what was happening years ago ... getting close to a decade. Look how long it took for one single individual to step forth and break the news to the rest of us. "News" that a seemingly large amount of people not only knew about but were also helping to facilitate.

And it continues. The Lavabit owner making statements like - to paraphrase - "if the American people knew what I know about email they wouldn't use it." Okay well fucking tell us already! Quit beating around the bush.

Same with the reporter - I forget his name - that has unbelievable info to share ... IN TEN DAYS! What is he waiting for?

I know people are scared and/or complacent but it seems clear now that the idea that someone will always be there to immediately spill the beans is a fantasy.

Hats off to Snowden for doing what hundreds and maybe thousands could have also done but chose otherwise. He is imo a true patriot.

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People also tend to forget about unwitting participants. A conspiratorial plot does not need every participant to be aware of the overarching stratagems and goals.

This plus the right degree of compartmentalization

No man, the government is a monolithic entity, that can either be a totally incompetent bungling sloth or a system which has conscripted vast human and material resources into the building of a tightly knit, highly efficient machine that combines military, diplomatic, intelligence, economic, scientific and political operations.

Surely it can't be a little from column A and a little from column B.

Really good point.

And then there is real life that may stop you. If you have a young family and just sorted your life out, you are less likely to spill the beans and take punishment, which could ruin your entire life. It isn't cowardice, but self preservation. Some people just can't 'afford' to whistle blow, even if they wanted to.

No, it's cowardice. Kill me, kill my family, torture me until I die and see if I give a fuck.

I will not sit idly by as mass injustice is unleashed on my fellow citizens.

Death has no hold over me.

Good for you.

People did spill their beans.

Never forget that a third building, 47 stories, collapsed that day. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hZEvA8BCoBw

Never forget that the victims families asked questions and demanded answers, but all they got were lies and cold shoulders. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nzRmb3Z-E0A

Never forget that Christy Todd Whitman head of the EPA knowingly lied about the safety of the air at ground zero and premeditatedly murdered the first responders. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qC3YlKERdg8

Never forget all the 9/11 whistle blowers who died mysteriously. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bvay28lZiHU

Never forget PDD W199i where the Bush Administration threatened prosecution of any FBI agent by the DoJ for investigating the Bin Laden family or the active cells. http://www.prisonplanet.com/911.html#w199i

Never forget the FBI admitted they had "No Hard Evidence" Connecting Bin Laden to 9/11. http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article13664.htm

Never forget that alleged hijackers were still alive http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/1559151.stm

Never forget all the National security whistle blowers trying to wake all the sleep walking sheep in total denial of reality that there were in fact whistle blowers on 9/11, a lot of them. http://www.nswbc.org/Press%20Releases/NSWBC-911Comm.htm

Never forget that 7 out of 10 of the 9/11 commissioners don't even buy the story of their own commission http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Atju9lOAtn8

Never forget who created Al Qaeda http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dqn0bm4E9yw

Never forget all these professionals, victims and insiders who question the official fairytale of 9/11 many of which are also whistle blowers. Including: 220+ Senior Military, Intelligence Service, Law Enforcement, and Government Officials 2000+ Engineers and Architects 250+ Pilots and Aviation Professionals 400+ Professors Question 9/11 300+ 9/11 Survivors and Family Members 200+ Artists, Entertainers, and Media Professionals 400+ Medical Professionals http://patriotsquestion911.com/

Nice collection. Good post.

GREAT post my man. Simply GREAT.

Excellent collection of "points." Good job.

You're very right. The problem is that too many people are ignorant, and just see the evidence we 'conspiracy theorists' show them, and believe it is coincidence.

People need to look around and evaluate the evidence.

If you're not parroting the stuff they said on TV, you're a conspiracy nut.

Ironically when someone in /r/conspiratard suggested this, it helped me figure out how such a large conspiracy could be possible.

the NSA surveillance was known but ignored by the majority of the population because it was never aboarded by MSM, what Snowden revealed was simply the project's name and full complicity of internet and telephony companies. Here on /r/conspiracy even before Snowden's reveal it was already known the full reach of the NSA.

9/11 it wasn't necessary that many people knew, the information regarding the attack was simply drowned in white-noise, while the true architects could continue plotting their agenda.

Don't forget that usually black missions and secret programs are based on a "need to know" basis, so usually no single person or company has full access or even knowledge of the full scope of the project, besides of course those on top of the pyramid.

To be honest the thing about 9/11 is that it is incredibly hard to comprehend if you went along with it from the start. Imagine being blissfully ignorant for over a decade then someone comes up to you and tells you "everything you know is a lie" or something along those lines. The brain would automatically reject it as it is to hard to deal with the concept the government is not there for your safety like the way you were all conditioned to believe. I think the best comparison I can make here is when people believed the world was flat then someone tells you it isnt. People rejected the information furiously but eventually everyone accepted what actually happened.

Neat idea...so who burned down the Reichstag?

Communist terrorists! Don't you read the newspapers?

Look how long it took for one single individual to step forth and break the news to the rest of us.

Snowden was far from the first.

How many companies knew about the NSA spying programs?

I used to work for a CLEC (8 years ago). When there are 28 server boxes to move to a new location, and there are 34 on the truck...you have to ask. Yes, it was that blatant. Yes, we were participating.

werent a lot of people that tried to speak up died/killed soon after?

More than likely yes. After Snowden the policy will be to kill anyone that even remotely seems to have a dissident attitude.

then how am i still alive? ;P

How many people in North Korea know what's going on, but choose not to say anything...it can happen anywhere, why not here

Exactly

Or they just murdered everyone involved in the planting of explosives after.. leaving alive only a few high level people that coordinated the event.

I'm curious who this reporter is? Any info?

First of all, let me say that a dozen airplane crashes couldn't have brought down the Twin Towers and the rest of the WTC as it happened on the day of 9/11. The official story is crap.

But, maybe, just maybe, the US government wasn't in on the attacks. Since there has never been a trial where evidence for hijackings has ever been presented, all we are left with is anecdotal evidence available on the internet, and there isn't much of that.

If you realize, like I realized a long time ago, that probably no planes at all were hijacked on 9/11, that reduces the size of the conspiracy by a great deal.

If you think, "The US government was attacked by outside sources, and got tricked into accepting the hijack story," things make more sense, especially compared to a widespread conspiracy among our most pro-government ideologists (the military and government employees).

I think that the US Government had to KNOW about the attacks at the very least.

Obviously the attacks themselves were Mossad ops. If you can't see that you are pretty damned blind.

A thousand or a million people saying the same thing doesn't make it true. I've heard the "inside job" story a thousand times if I've heard it once, and it never goes anywhere.