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Should put this nuclear weapon transfer story up

http://www.infowars.com/exclusive-high-level-source-confirms-secret-us-nuclear-warhead-transfer-to-east-coast/

Something is going on. There is direct vote manipulation going on here. You're doing God's work OWN the NWO. This is my second attempt at comment, my last one vanished.

I'm not accusing Reddit for the vote manipulation.

somethings cooking up.. the next one will probably be more intense

August 29th - 2013

A twenty year, veteran Middle East reporter has written a report stating rebels have admitted the CM attack was done by accident and that Saudi Arabia supplied the weapons. Dale Gavlak has worked and written for AP, NPR and the BBC.

Examiner article

Mint Press (source) but currently down

Accident my arse. That's a deflection of truth designed to protect the higher-ups who ordered this false flag to happen.

And you have proof of that?

So... no.

So... You don't know. [FTFY]

He might as well have blamed the Greys. For all their posting, /r/conspiracy can't even prove this was a false flag, although you'd never know it from the people here.

just wanted to say on behalf of r/conspiracy that you, OWNtheNWO, are the fucking man; I can't believe how dedicated you are to shedding light into the abyss and personally thank you. If the whole country was like this guy (girl?) our problems would be a laughable memory.

TL;DR: OWNtheNWO for president

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"Forfed"

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A sticky on r/conspiracy!? Good work, soldier.

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This is as humorous as it is accurate.

This is a link bomb. Most of it is random quotes from talking heads like Pat Buchanan with no first-hand knowledge. The two morsels of factual information relevant to the chemical attacks are the following:

1) A controversial UN official has said she thinks the rebels did it after interviewing hospital staff, but "gave no further details."

2) Syrian state TV reported that its "army heroes" had found a cache of rebel chemical weapons.

This evidence would get a D- if we were playing intelligence analyst.

"D-, r/conspiracy. See me after class!"

this one's my favorite, though - http://web.archive.org/web/20130223154355/http://www.infowars.com/hack-reveals-washington-approved-plan-to-stage-chemical-weapons-attack-in-syria/

web archived article basically describing what was going to happen with Syria from hacked emails in january.

A controversial UN official has said she thinks the rebels did it after interviewing hospital staff, but "gave no further details."

Uhhh UN testimony and "secret intelligence" is the same thing Obama's going off of. It's not like he has pictures and confessions right? Because there are rebels that have admitted to using the gas: http://www.examiner.com/article/breaking-news-rebels-admit-gas-attack-result-of-mishandling-chemical-weapons

And there are videos of them using gas as well: http://www.thedailysheeple.com/al-qaeda-rebels-used-sarin-nerve-gas-in-syria-attack_082013

And there's a video of a Syrian rebel eating out a soldiers heart : http://www.policymic.com/articles/41777/abu-sakkar-syrian-rebel-cuts-out-and-eats-soldier-s-heart-in-ghastly-propaganda-video

So what grade do you give Obama's evidence? When we just have to go off his word? And go off the word of our "intelligence", the same people that have been violating our constitutional rights? Why should we go in at all WHEN WE DONT KNOW WHO IS WHO. Or maybe we exactly know who we're training and that's EVEN FUCKING WORSE. I'm TIRED of the FUCKING FRAUD that America has become. I'm TIRED of the FUCKING BULLSHIT. We do not need another war. Why are we killing people?

Is everyone FUCKING CRAZY. Why do we need to kill people? Because they killed people? I'm supposed to have money taken out of my paycheck every week FOR THAT. To fill planes up with money and then drop it on some mother fucker that never did anything to me? This whole fucking fraud is outrageous and I'm fucking sick of it.

but the first responders said bad guy did it

June 18th, 2013

Analyst: Al Qaeda affiliate in Syria now best-equipped of the group

http://edition.cnn.com/2013/06/17/world/meast/syria-civil-war

"They are making desperate attempts to get chemical weapons," the analyst told CNN, noting that in the past few weeks, security services in Iraq and Turkey arrested operatives who were "trying to get their hands on sarin."

weren't they actually caught by turkey?

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I would say not so much a distraction, but a false motive that gets the world on the side of invading Syria and/or Iran.

Okay sorry. What do you believe the end goal is for America invading/bombing syria? Is it to ultimately get to Iran?

Could this also have to do with Iran's goal of accepting gold or another currency for their oil? Also what do you think of Iran's new president. He seems to be getting along with America. If he is not a threat and does as America says, why would his country be a target?

Would it be safe to say that he is not really cooperating with America and the central banks, and that is why America is still involved with Syria?

Remember, the President of Iran is not the Supreme Leader. Resources, Oil for anything but dollars, and their central bank

true. good point.

I don't think BRICS is the name of it, is it?

this comment and you're previous one have 1 downvote and 1 upvote. there's definitely something targeting your posts =/

Wow... yes; debt = resource

No, but perhaps it is time.

Hegemony through chaos.

Ordo ab Chao?

A gas pipeline through Syria from Qatar maybe? Why would Saudi Arabia want to cover our bill for the strike?

You're a down-vote magnet bro. That's how you know your doing the right thing. :)

absolutely right own... we are in major trouble for the next couple weeks.

americans not so much.. syrians, yes. o, and the rest of the worlds people, such as the 800,000,000+ who dont have clean water

For some reason I have the same gut feeling you do, this being a major distraction. From what, no idea.

A good false flag would be something unexpected, something that touches the people of US in some way. Staged attack with those advanced Russian anti-ship missiles towards some US ship or carrier would be good, or something like that.

Israel has been quite quiet too in the past few weeks as opposed to some months ago they were the ones doing the war mongering. Perhaps they are planning something under the radar?

I don't think its a distraction because these things take forever to organize. The DOD is not agile. You cant plan a war in a week and you cant predict what will be occupying the masses when its go-time

Nah, I think Syria's a part of the goal, here. The military has been wanting to come out and play some more. The ramp up has been going on for a while, well over a year now, and mostly from within the Navy from what I've seen.

Why would you include Syria state TV as sources in your timeline? That's literally Assad governments propaganda station.

Why hasn't the Russian government just come out and said this was a false flag by the US/Israel/ and provided proof?

They may after the g20

You should remove the Daily Mail link about Britam Defence and the email about getting chemical weapons to the rebels. It has been proven as false and the Daily Mail even had to pay out in a lawsuit about it. Otherwise pretty decent timeline you've got there.

http://www.theguardian.com/media/2013/jun/26/daily-mail-syrian-chemical-weapons-libel

Organized with citations. This type of format makes it look professional and it's harder for the shills to do their job with the disinformation. Well done OP.

This is a good time line of events.

I'm sure people here have visited this, but

http://www.globalresearch.ca has been covering it as well.

i like them

Why does Israel want Syria destroyed?

Easy as 1,2,3...

One.

Guess who provided (100% true, I am sure) intelligence re: Syrian chemical attack?

No points for guessing - our buddy Israel.

www.theguardian.com/world/2013/aug/28/israeli-intelligence-intercepted-syria-chemical-talk

If it wasn't in Israel's interests, then its security agencies would not have staged a false flag terrorist atrocity, errrr, I mean provided intelligence to USA and UK.

They would have simply sat on it.

Two.

Do a quick read through about a Professor Emeritus of Middle Eastern and Ottoman Studies, Princeton University, one Bernard Lewis.

http://www.historycommons.org/entity.jsp?entity=bernard_lewis

"Princeton University professor Bernard Lewis publishes an article in the influential journal Foreign Affairs called “Rethinking the Middle East.” In it, he advocates a policy he calls “Lebanonization.”

He says, “[A] possibility, which could even be precipitated by [Islamic] fundamentalism, is what has late been fashionable to call ‘Lebanonization.’

Most of the states of the Middle East—Egypt is an obvious exception—are of recent and artificial construction and are vulnerable to such a process. If the central power is sufficiently weakened, there is no real civil society to hold the polity together, no real sense of common identity.…

Then state then disintegrates—as happened in Lebanon—into a chaos of squabbling, feuding, fighting sects, tribes, regions, and parties.” Lewis, a British Jew, is well known as a longtime supporter of the Israeli right wing. Since the 1950s, he has argued that the West and Islam have been engaged in a titanic “clash of civilizations” and that the US should take a hard line against all Arab countries.

Lewis is considered a highly influential figure to the neoconservative movement, and some neoconservatives such as Richard Perle and Harold Rhode consider him a mentor."

Lebanonization. Syria's Baath (secular, fascist) regime was a thorn in Israel's side for a long time. They support (not 100% control, though) Hezbollah and Hamas and do stick their noses into the Lebanese byzantine plots and politics. And of course Hezbollah and Hamas are Israel's enemies (peruse CFR's propaganda piece, State Sponsor: Syria)

Worse, Syria is an ally of Iran, despite the two countries being diametrically different - one is a secular, fascist state and the other is a religious theocracy (BBC news, dated 8 June 2012).

The plan here is to take out Israel's Arab enemies by sowing chaos, dirty tricks, siccing Sunni vs. Shia (and Christian!) against each other so that there are no coherent, strong countries surrounding Israel - there will be only Mad-Max-like failed states, with millions of refugees (many of whom going to Europe - a win for multiculturalism... isn't it great when a plan comes together?), with no central power, with warring factions of terrorists fighting endless wars, periodically bombed by USA and/or Western Europe.

Three.

Point Two is proven by Point Three - this was always the plan for over a decade, if not more.

General Wesley Clark, March 2, 2007:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9RC1Mepk_Sw

No points for guessing what country will be "liberated" by USA after "helping" Syria, all according to plan.

Iran.

dont forget that U.S intelligence knew 3 days before the aug 21 'attack' that they were preparing a chemical attack. blablabla

OMG...I totally missed that. TY!

That fourth link "Russia Warns U.S. Over Syria, Says Obama Like Bush" strikes me as suspicious. Wouldn't Russia want to keep Syria the way it was so that it could stay a valuable trading partner that needs a lot of resources. I could be wrong, but it seems like that's just Putin trying capitalize on the distrust caused by the Iraq debacle.

Those thoughts aside, the next article starts "Army heroes are entering the tunnels of the terrorists and saw chemical agents...". That statement doesn't seem a bit propaganda-y?

this is an excellent post, thanks for taking the time to put this together. Its sad that someone working for network media isnt allowed to even think along these lines. If journalism was as honest as the internet, we wouldnt be at so many wars

Really? You're taking a story based on Syrian state television as truth? They have every reason not only to lie, but to set it up. Or am I misunderstanding your inclusion of it?

Edit: I misunderstood, hungover so brain is being stoopit

Don't expect an unbiased, non-sensational, or even factual debate, on any subreddit. Let alone a conspiracy forum. 90 percent of the "discussions" are a one side echo-chamber of soundbites from a massively a simplified picture on the situation in Syria.

Don't expect an unbiased, non-sensational, or even factual debate, on any subreddit. Let alone a conspiracy forum

Its not like this thread has over 20+ links from credible sources.

but sure, you can call it a non-factual echo-chamber if you want

Yeah, you'd think the sub complaining about government shills wouldn't act as counter-culture shills. Maybe human nature is to be a shill in some sense?

Do you do your work in a faraday cage?

I always recommend a pyramid shaped tent made from pure silk.

Well done /u/OWNtheNWO. I know you and I butt heads frequently, (but in a board of free thinkers thats a good thing ;) ) but this is prime stuff man. You and I need to grab a beer sometime IRL, on me.

not to the point of adversaries, but enough to make mention of it. (like when i thought leesburg police evacuating X miles of people for finding that bomb wasnt really anything meaningful).

regardless, my offer still stands. i copied the timeline to my faceB status, shits excellent

I've got a question, and I apologize if it sounds dumb or ignorant, as I am truly trying to educate myself on these matters.

I am strongly against intervention, I think it's all a bunch of bs that will only serve the folks at the top.

I wanted to know, what other countries governments are in support of going to "war"or what ever people want to call it?

France may be onside. I think they are trying to get a vote on this. Canada may be supportive but they seem cautious about offering troops. The UK had been onside, but their vote in Parliament was against interventing, so for now it looks like they won't. Interestingly, Kerry recently indicated that the "Arabs" agreed to pay for the whole deal if the US goes to war. That is weird in my view -- and I guess by this he means "House of Saud" Who else would pony up money for this? Anyway, if true, I guess you could say that Sauid Arabia is on side. There may be others, but I have not heard of others pumping for this.

Thank you for the informative reply, I appreciate it.

Turkey LOVES the idea. Turkish newspapers say that the US does too.

Guess WHY Turkey loves it. :)

I'm guessing it has something to do with the oil business, but that's just a shot in the dark

Well...technically a natural gas pipeline that has already been "approved" to run from Qatar to (dum, dum, duh DUM!) Turkey! That is why Qatar is funding the rebels to the tune of 3 Billion. To get thier 10 Billion dollar NG pipe forced through Syria to Turkey. Turkey is STOKED about syrians being slaughtered, because money.

Assad said no in '09. So civil war gets started. Then we get involved and escalate. Syria is allied with Russia. Russia would have been cut out of any benefit from the pipeline...

And on the brink of war obama talks to Putin about "economic issues."

I wish it went chronologically, not anti-chronologically.

Turn your computer upside down. ;)

that's descending, not ascending

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Guardian Article

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10 upvotes 9 downvotes - you're being targeted by the shills

That fourth link "Russia Warns U.S. Over Syria, Says Obama Like Bush" strikes me as suspicious. Wouldn't Russia want to keep Syria the way it was so that it could stay a valuable trading partner that needs a lot of resources. I could be wrong, but it seems like that's just Putin trying capitalize on the distrust caused by the Iraq debacle.

I'm pretty surprised at how few upvotes this has received vs. That navy picture with a single sentence you posted yesterday. We could chalk it up to short attention spans but even then it's a little disconcerning.

*great post by the way

This is real news aggregation. Thank you.

They gradually use more extreme tactics to push the agenda until something yields the desired result of taking over Syria, then Iran. They've tried almost everything with the chemical weapons route and people aren't buying it. The central bankers need to set up puppet governments to maintain world reserve currency status of the dollar, at least until they can set up their western central banks everywhere. Once they have total control, the dollar can then be disposed of as the global currency controlled by the western central banks. The G20 Summit starts soon and there is going to be some pressure and contention over the world reserve currency. Obama isn't going to be able to go in there and smooth everything over while avoiding talking about the debt issues. He won't have definitive evidence to go to St. Petersburg claiming that the Syrian Army was behind the gas attack. This is baseless, especially when the US is so hopelessly deep in debt, the vast majority of the people including many soldiers oppose military action and it is becoming common knowledge that the US is funding al Qaeda affiliated rebels who are trying to take out Assad in Syria. This war started a while ago without sending US troops, it's easier to pay foreign mercenaries and fill in the gaps with drones. No US lives are at stake, so the American people don't need to consent or even really know about it. But the overtaxed people will pay the bill anyway

http://charlotte.cbslocal.com/2013/09/03/graham-nukes-in-hands-of-terrorists-could-result-in-bomb-coming-to-charleston-harbor/

Be on alert guys ._.

This is a brilliant post! Thank you!

Also cuts off at 9/5/10 for me.

Edit: Nevermind, I see what you did there...

This is beautiful. Thank you for this!

What if all this stuff going down is to deliberately incite the American people, who have still been reluctant to do so, into a frenzy? What would that justify?

Good job, the link to the reputable sources, adds a hint of professionalism.

Ok so I agree the whole thing is fishy. The corporatocracy ahs been pro-FSA from the start, even when it became clear they were global jihadis.

I get that Israel doesn't love Assad and that AIPAC is a big voting bloc. I get that it's a strike to weaken Iran.

But usually in these things I look for profit motive. You know, follow the money.

So aside from building the bombs, what's the motive? Is it to get rebuilding contracts like in Iraq? Is it part of a wider plan that involves bringing down the Iranians? Where does Syria fit in the puzzle?

I honestly don't love the angle that it's about Russia, either, because I reckon by now the business elite in Russia and the West are pretty well acquainted and both know the score. More profits to be made for them like that, right? Plus if the Russian oligachs didn't play ball we'd have called them commies a long time ago. Everyone is playing ball now.

Does Syria have an independent central bank or something?

Check out this Corbett Report from a couple of days ago which lays out the profit motive beautifully: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cCdaExnIpGs It's a long watch, but very enjoyable and probably the only angle that should be covered. This chemical weapons shit is political cover for all these energy interests that are in play:

Iran, Iraq, Syria pipeline [aka Islamic Pipeline]. Deal inked between the 3 countries in 2011 partially architected by Asaad. Connects Iran's South Pars natural gas field (largest on planet) directly to Western Europe under the Mediterranean. It bypasses Turkey, bypasses the Saudis, cuts off Qatar (which also has rights to part of the field), and isolates Israel. Shortly after this deal, Asaad started to be demonized as a terrorist and tyrant, and foreign mercenaries and jihadist groups started to filter into the country. The pipeline could be online by as early 2018!

Israeli/US Leviathan Gas field: massive natural gas field discovered off Israel's coast in 2010 developed by the US which could make Israel a major player in the energy game. The Islamic Pipeline infrastructure would out-price Israel's gas because of insanely efficient pipeline transport VS tanker transport. * EDIT: texas company Noble Energy has a 39% stake in the field.

Qatar, Saudi Arabia and the South Pars field: Qatar has rights to a large portion of the field, but the Islamic pipeline deal would cut them off. Similar to the Israeli gas, they'd couldn't compete with that direct pipe Europe. Asaad had previously rejected a deal with Qatar to run pipe through Saudi Arabia & Syria to the Mediterranean which also apparently pissed off the Saudis.

Russia They have been pushing to create and be the head of an OPEC type organization for Natural Gas -- The Gas Exporting Countries Forum (GECF). The famous meeting with Bandar Bush where he threatened to fuck up the Winter Olympics with Chechen terrorists had something to do with this.

As others have mentioned, yeah, the Military Industrial complex always win as long as someone's fighting. Kinda like the banks where the market conditions don't matter as long as people are doing lots of transactions.

The Clintons have a big stake invested in Noble Energy.

Watch the following and you'll understand:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D6p5UxHRwpA http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GYqEp8mU_sE http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=djwPqAJ_3GY

Bonus Educational Items: http://www.veteranstoday.com/2013/08/03/its-official-us-funding-al-qaeda-and-taliban/

There is a lot more to it though that can't be explained in just a few videos. Namely, much of this has to do with purposeful destabilization of regions - that is playing different religious groups against one another, and different Muslim sects against one another. On the side-lines, Israel's Right wing government is stalling the peace process with Palestinians while continuing the crimes against them. Their government also has much to gain by taking Syria out of the picture - that is continuing to destabilize neighboring Lebanon (they fund terrorist cells there). One thing to note too is that the CIA, Mossad, MI5, and the Al Mukhabarat Al A'amah (all major intelligence agency players) are directly involved with funding, training, and aiding radicals for the sole purpose of making an excuse to blot the entire middle east region with military bases and the procurement of resources.

Posted by EXOGEN on September 2, 2013 at 11:19am 1. THERE HAS BEEN A MAJOR ATTACK IN IRAQ

1. AND ENTIRE REGION IS NOW ON LOCK DOWN

2. USA CONTRACTORS CAN NOT LEAVE OFFICES

3. THE ENTIRE PROVINCE OF Harithiya IS NOW ON LOCK DOWN

4. A MAJOR POLITICAL FIGURE WAS JUST MURDERED IN IRAQ

5. STAFF AT BANKS IN IRAQ ARE BEING REPLACED copy/paste

I think it should start from just before this. Time-line 2003

All these middle eastern revolutions are leading to one thing...chaos. and all seems to be going America's way.

Who made America the world police? and who sanctions the US for their use of forbidden war weaponry??

Chemical weapons? comon seriously? Media is helping sell this crap to the rest of the world and everybody is buying it. http://www.freenewspos.com/news/article/a/230801/Revolution/syrian-rebels-used-sarin-nerve-gas-not-assad-39-s-regime-un-official

This is all a conspiracy using the "Divide & Conquer" strategy. The so called "free army" of syria are people who are ill fated and out to seek revenge not reform, or have you forgotten the footage of someone from that alleged army eating someone's heart??!

America is about to bring economic downfall to the middle east once again and destroy a beautiful country that was once considered the academic capital of the middle east and hand it over to their friends "the islamic extremists".

Same scenario, different countries. Wake up!

wheee.

God, brilliant post! It cuts of at Sept 5th 2010 for me.

Can you PM the html code so I can post on other sub-reddits?

The articles match up to the date below them, not above

Yeah the post's format is a tad confusing but the info is solid. Should def put the date above the post.

I guarantee you that Benghazi 9/11/12 was the very moment when the U.S. gave the rebels the chemical weapons necessary.

Yes most likely. That "weapons transfer" hopefully we all heard about.

Two good articles: Here and here

Edit: And why is nobody really talking about the Dale Gavlak story? She is a apparently a pretty credible source, being not only an AP correspondent, but also having written for PBS, BBC and Salon.com.

33 downvotes? Really? who other than disinfo could downvote this? Someone takes the job to sort informationes for us. Who dislikes that? You dislike the informationes? or the effort of the person who wrote that? Also anyone other thinks that things like this should be in r/politics or something like that, not just conspiracy?

Reddit will automatically add downvotes when a post has many upvotes. It's to combat spam.

Is that a joke orrrrr

No, it's the truth. Check out the faq

And it's the most stupid thing ever. Really pointless !

Why did we all get downvoted for this I don't understand

I have a feeling that we will see another false flag, especially with 9-11 right around the corner.

May 5 2013 - that's the one that should make alarm bells go off in everyones heads right now.

There is an American citizen fighting with Al Qaeda,

armed with weapons the US has been providing

that has been charged for crimes for doing so.

we're starting to look like total d*cks.

thanks /u/OWNtheNWO and the rest of you

How about a link from early August when three simultaneous Al Qaeda prison breaks occurred? And then all the embassies closed, which provides effective cover for securing Al Qaeda visas to the battlefront you want them on?

At this point Al Qaeda pretty much means "the CIA". Oh wait, it always has.

If 9/11 was an inside job then why do you care we are on AQ's side

Could this also have to do with Iran's goal of accepting gold or another currency for their oil? Also what do you think of Iran's new president. He seems to be getting along with America. If he is not a threat and does as America says, why would his country be a target?

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Turn your computer upside down. ;)

They may after the g20

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