Red Flag: The original source article was written by Sorcha Faal.

And... The End.

Thanks. Good enough for me

Well, since we're all here, anyone wanna compile complete frauds so everyone can be aware? No one knows all of the bullshitters and hoaxers (Ive never heard of Sorcha) lets share

last name pronounced "fail".

Also, it's noteworthy to point out that there was a story about this exact subject and location over a year ago.

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread726578/pg1

This is probably the source everyone is quoting:

"What caused the sudden rush of these most powerful leaders of the Western World to go to Afghanistan, this report continues, was to directly view the discovery by US Military scientists of what is described as a “Vimana” entrapped in a “Time Well” that has already caused the “disappearance” of at least 8 American Soldiers trying to remove it from the cave it has been hidden in for the past estimated 5,000 years."

Retarded.

Time Well? facepalm.

If the U.S. military found advanced unknown technology, they sure as fuck wouldn't share that shit.

"uh...8 American soldiers disappeared while trying to dig it up. Better go check it out in person" -Obama, Merkel, Francois, Cameron, etc.

Seems legit.

Yeah, that doesn't really make sense to send world leaders there. Why not send our top scientists/physicists/archaeologists/historians, people that would actually know what this is.

Because the time well will make them disappear.

sooo... send more politicians

Upvote for practical solution.

World peace breaks out... confounding!

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What do you have after 8 top politicians disappear into a Time Well?

A good start!

BA DUM CHSSHHHH

How do you know they don't know what it is?

Do you think Barack Obama would be better qualified to dig this up than a historian/archaeologist?

Maybe God gave him a gift. Maybe he shovels well. Maybe he shovels very well.

If all it took was being good at shoveling to become an archaeologist, half the world would be archaeologists.

This sub is way too hard to tell sarcasm/seriousness.

Heh. I'll help you out with this one. I'm paraphrasing a quote by The Shoveller from Mystery Men.

Don't worry mate, I got it.

i got it too

Such a great movie. Def an obscure reference.

That's only because the length of the pole up your ass is only rivaled by your lack of nuance.

You seem like a wonderful happy person. Have a great day.

Maybe they can get close enough to see it, but not close enough to touch it. World leaders go to military bases to talk to leaders in person and have conversations they wouldn't over phones. It's possible it's a situation similar to that.

That being said it's very likely BS, but that goes without saying with any story like this. It's more fun to try and figure out why the stories make sense than just say BS and move on.

How do you know he isn't? How much do we truly know about anyone's level of expertise at anything? How much do we truly know about anything at all?

Seeing as he studied Law, I find it hard to believe he would have the expertise to do an archaeological dig. We can get all philosophical if you want, but lets be serious. Obama is not the right person to send there.

All I'm saying is we don't know what goes on and what they learn in skull and bones

Secret history lessons

Because Obama and the other world leaders were in skull and bones right?

yes

Unless it's "alien" technology. Didn't you know the first thing they say is "take me to your leader"

In this case it's "take your leaders to us".

Light Grenade HueHueHue

Weren't the IP addresses of like 8 mods at ATS traced to Alexandria, Virginia a couple years ago?

Awesome. A legitimate "freaky" conspiracy and you're down voted. How about some links to the videos you've watched?

I think the down votes are from the fact that any of the proof is out dated and that some people heard this a year ago and two years ago. So it's just not up to snuff.

Also, it's obvious bullshit.

Well yeah, but I was trying to be polite. I'm Canadian. I have to let people off nicely.

I wish people acted more Canadian on discussion boards in general. People tend to turn into the loudest most obnoxious versions of Americans. The kind that like to go on vacation in France just to complain about everything and pronounce all the consonants at the end of words.

reminded me of "freedom fries"

May I have another pumpkin doughnut?

This is not a new report. I was hearing about this more than a year ago, and nothing came of it then, either.

Here we go, found an entry from Feb 2011.

That's cool, but from my perspective, it wasn't posted in Feb 2011 until I saw it today.

Oh I know. I'm just making sure you're aware that you're ringing the bell for something that's at best speculation and at worst designed to be a red herring for researchers.

I've been pretty clear that this is very speculative and just based on a gut feeling.

But you specifically labelled the date October 1st and the word "coming" which implies in the future, i.e. the approaching October 1st of 2013.

Yup.

lol

Exactly. Considering how far down the rabbit hole I am, this is news to me.

Just make sure you don't get stuck. A lot of those holes lead not to a secret hidden reality, just a very large pile of cow dung.

hehe, no worries, I don't take it personally.

Here's a good start, and going here will get a bunch more links in the sidebar because I'm UNBELIEVABLY lazy.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ft_bcN8sfFA

That shit is OLD!!

Sarkozy hasn't been the French leader since May 2012.

Lol these guys are nut jobs

When you are finished with those check out this one:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7QJk_NYC6u8

All this was created by the producers of the movie The Objective ... Same bullshit as the movie the conspiracy

I just read the plot of the movie, it definitely sounds like one of the props from The Objective.

The movie has been out for a while. I've seen it and the producers admitted they made fake YouTube videos to make people excited for it

Every year I always hear about something like this with people say "disclosure soon!"

Well, if they exist, sooner or later, one of the people saying that is going to be right.

Even if it is completely by accident.

kinda like those end of the world people. being lucky =/= being correct

Even a broken clock is right twice a day.

Well, not a digital clock. But you get what I'm saying I hope.

And also, I make my own luck.

Well unless that clock says it's 13 O'Clock.

no, the definition of luck is an arbitrary distribution of events or outcomes. this is not something you can do. you can make smart decisions to give yourself potential favorable outcomes, but its still chance.

and a broken clock may be right twice a day...still broken and you should just replace it

this is not something you can do.

No. This is not something you can do.

Care to enlighten us how you create your own luck?

Nope.

you need a firmer grasp on english. the point of arbitrary is NO ONE can influence it. its random, unpredictable, unknown etc.

Perchance, did you mean to say "a firmer grasp of English"?

yeah, typo. fucking sue me cause i type quick and am doing three things at once

Perchance, did you mean to say "i type quickly"?

perchance do you not have an argument on the original point any longer?

http://i.imgur.com/JZ5EScI.gif

also might i add that grammar, and definitions of words are two completely different things :)

also might i add that grammer, and definitions of words are two completely different things :) FTFY

I heard about this on here around a month maybe more but they had a vid that I watched about it seemed very viable. Only thing was they seemed to have no proof kinda like bigfoot and ufo pics lol we live in a digital age with 31 megapixel cameras and can get a clear photo of these things.

Don't mean do dicredit the story but goddamnit I want proof something tangible.

Me and my girlfriend have been seeing a massive amount of UFO's this past two weeks from the back of our house (I don't know whether they are "aliens" or not, just that they are UFO's doing very strange things, strange beams, flashes and lights etc) We have tried on several occasions with our 16mp camera to capture some of these things to no avail, they either happen too fast, the occurrence happens when it is too dark for my cam to pick it up or my camera stops working entirely. Not saying that you can't capture them on high quality cameras but it's hard to have these cameras ready and on you at all times. I always stuck to the school of thought that surely people would capture these things on high quality cameras if they were real, but of late I have come to the realisation that it's not as easy in practice. Me and the girlfriend have ordered a telescope that we will set up by our back door(along with multiple cameras of varying quality and a few binoculars) for any future sightings so fingers crossed. Also I don't necessarily disagree with you it's just that I used to think like that and wanted to share this as it made me realise just how hard it is to capture things like this.

I see how there can be some interference with electronics but here is a tip fuck those shit cameras go look at my past submissions and you will see what the wife and I did with a dslr cannon t3i with a 18-50mm lens at 2am and we got that pic with no photoshop editing.

If I see any by me I will get a pic of them but screw auto focus for long distance shots and those dslr its on in a half a second least ours is and do a shot with a tripod and a wireless shudder open 5 second exposure least you will get something.

Maybe old fashioned cameras with film instead of electronics might work out.

You might but would be a mofo to focus it

Where's your pic?

http://i.imgur.com/8cUHtAU.jpg here ya go

Are you guys in Texas? There was an article on the UFO sub about how Texas has seen a lot of activity lately.

No we're in the UK, we rarely get anything solid here, but I have seen some freaky shit these past two weeks. A huge glowing blue boomerang shaped thing that was stationary for about 2 seconds above my house before shooting over the horizon faster than anything i have seen in my life, bright "stars" that have been moving in really weird motions(ie the typical 90 degree turns etc) and emitting weird momentary beams/lights as well as a disc shaped object that covered a distance of roughly 8 miles in 2 seconds (judging by the distance between the two towns that it hovered over) it then preceded to shoot up into the clouds, after about 2 minutes two starlike objects descended from the clouds directly down to the estuary at the back of our house. Me and my girlfriend then sat and watched the clouds light up with dim neon-blue flashes for about 1/2 an hour before three neon blue shooting stars(the only way i can describe it) shot outwards in separate directions from above this particular cloud.

EDIT: These are just some of the sightings we've had over roughly a 2 week period normally between 12am and 4:30am

what part of the UK?

North Wales, just over the border from chester

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Yeah they practice in Valley which is on the north west of wales closer to anglesey, the things I am seeing are either over liverpool/wirral and that still doesn't explain the glowing blue boomerang hovering above my house, it took up half of my view of the sky above me then went from stationary to shooting over the horizon in a few milliseconds, really creeped me the fuck out.

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Yeah maybe try setting up your telescope camera setup with some sort of motion sensor that will take pictures when something comes into view.

Yeah I am hoping to, I am also in the process of acquiring a telescope to try and get a better view of what some of the other things are

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Better then 9/11 bullshit over and over again

Whatever you say, Banjo

I'm not talking about aliens and ancient civilization stuff. I'm talking about the people talking about aliens and ancient civilization stuff, as part of some agenda.

You should be a politician

A moving goalpost gathers no moss.

What a crock of shit.

Well, at least it's more amusing then reading all this bullshit 9/11 copypasta

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Because when entities were trying to push the meme that the FedGov was prepping for a Region III exercise/false flag on Oct 1, it was revealed that the purchases presented as evidence were likely a result of buying being done before the end of the Federal fiscal year (Oct 1).

So now, the date is attached to this 2 year old story. Wonder what it will be next week...

I hadn't heard that it was because of the end of this fiscal year. That makes a lot of sense. Weird that conspiracy boards didn't light up to dispel that myth...

You just had that myth dispelled on a conspiracy board, sir.

ISON approaches Mars around that date. Maybe not related, though.

hmm I just posted a link to a radio show talking about that that felt relevant.

They are going to "save" us from it.

There were videos going around about a month ago about a FEMA region 3 alert with October 1 attached to it. I'm on my phone so I can't link but the person who did the video had someone attempt to discredit the video an then she made a follow up dismantling the discreditor. If you're going to check it out watch all 3 in the proper order and use your discernment before judging the validity either way

To be honest, I'm not sure myself right now. For me, every once in a while, it's like all the little pieces just start moving by themselves until they snap into a recognizable picture, and then I am .. irresistibly compelled into action. But even then the picture is not visible to my conscious mind, it's only after the fact that I can see the pieces and how they fit together.

I don't call myself BlackSwan for nothing.

I figured you called yourself black swan for your love of lesbian scenes in movies.

Six of one, half a dozen of the other.

Good balance.

I find 99% of the stuff on youtube is a bit farfetched. But it is fascinating.

There will be bits and pieces of truth. Sift them from the ash.

There was a news report from Pravada.ru stating that there was some disclosure. But everyone is brushing it off due to the news source.

Link?

http://english.pravda.ru/society/anomal/28-11-2008/106764-soviet_ufo-0/

Sorry. pravda.

Not link doesn't mention disclosure, only that Soviet cosmonauts kept mostly quiet about anomalous observations.

Damn I'm not with it today. That was the wrong article. Ha@!

Pravada.ru

There isn't even a site on this domain, it's a parked/for sale page... ?

http://english.pravda.ru/

He means the Pravda newspaper. But I didn't find any link to the story he mentions.

Because there is no link. Blind upvotes from the faithful, with no source to back up claims.

Of all of the subs that I wish was moderated, it is this one.

Uhhh links?

I know whats coming on oct 1st, GTA ONLINEEEEEE

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Doesn't Obamacare kick in 10/1?

Doesn't explain the 50,000 Russian troops going to the US for "training". But still this is an interesting subject, I don't believe it but who knows, let's see what can be found.

India wasn't the only country to have flying machines , history tells us that tooth from ancient Egypt had a "ship" pictures from ancient show us they had them , i do believe in them as the history of earth is full of stories but we still don't know about what happened in the past , for all we know we could actualy be a post apocalyptic civilization .. wait .. we have stories of that too in the past right ? what if we are just a cargo culture our selves based on our own past ? maybe somewhere in our past we were more advanced than we are today ? lets face it no one alive can prove me wrong simply because no one was there in our past to prove me wrong , this dosn't make me right , but either way i know something most don't and i cant prove it , in the 1980s i seen a craft , it was sold for 50 million and advertised as a new way to travel using quantum physics , these devices were being tested as far back as the 1950's ! in my view if this is real then it opens up a lot of questions , is the army trying to recover this craft to back engineer it to combat the elite who allegedly have these things already ?

Yeah. Ra's flying machine was called a Ben Ben, and he had to put it up in some kind of building when he wasn't using it.

So the last time I heard this exact same story it was proven with links that these youtube videos are part of a guerrilla marketing campaign for an upcoming movie. I'm not going to bother trying to find the "authentic" videos that are blatantly hollywood produced. I am strong believer in the existance of UFO's. I don't know if they are terrestrial or not but there is a phenomenon in the skys that we can formally document with tangible evidence.
This is not what I would consider tangible evidence by even the smallest degree.

If this turns out to be real then I'd be real suspicious. David Rockefeller stated in the 90's that the end game of the NWO was to use an extraterrestrial threat as a means of consolidating and legitimizing a global government. We should all be watching this closely.

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Yeah it does. Considering someone from another country is considered an alien, a being from a different planet entirely would be as well.

I wonder if there's any connections between this and the pronunciation book theory.. any help?

nope, that turned out to be some sort of performance art thing connected to an ARG

Sorry to be that guy, but ARG?

Alternate Reality Game. like a live action roleplaying thing but designed so that people.. can sort of play it from anywhere over the internet.

Not that I'm some sort of expert on ARGs or anything.

Ahhh, thanks me.

Oh, you.

Oh, me.

you guys are crackin me up.

Yeah we crack ourselves up.

Also, right now, there are probably a few people that are wondering if you are a sockpuppet account of mine and if this little conversation is some sort of coded way of saying that this whole thread is part of some ARG.

It's totally not guys. I am totally not DeeseDaGeese.

Neither am I.

Ive been hearing about fema camps gearing up in sector six.

I want to believe.

Most exciting post in a while! can you imagine?!

I heard this story (again with no details or evidence) told on Coast to Coast AM several years ago.

You might also like to look into the dark night satellite.

thank you. is it actually black knight or am i confusing this with something else?

Yes it is. I shouldn't post when tired.

Nah, it's that Wayne Enterprises satellite from Man of Steel subliminally messing with you. That's how they getcha. lol.

More likely VALIS.

I remember reading rumors like this back when we toppled Iraq a second time. Soldiers rushed in to a specific museum in Baghdad and made off with unknown artifacts. I never heard any more info on it though.

Ah yeah, a lot of Stargate talk related to that stuff.

u/BlackSwanX and this post serve as a testament to what is wrong with this subreddit.

Hey man, I'm not exactly thrilled that I had to post this either. If I was allowed to, I'd be more than happy to explain in great detail the point of this. But the fact of the matter is that there are forces at work here that make that extremely dangerous. Forces you couldn't conceive of. Forces you shouldn't conceive of. Forces you throuldn't conceive of.

Irregardless, the explanation will be forthcoming on the 2nd. Or possibly secondcoming on the 4th. It will all make sense then. Not logical sense, mind you. But poetically, it will be crystal.

Just keep shoveling that shit shill.

What exactly am I shilling, pray tell? As I have said repeatedly, this is all based on a gut feeling, and take it with a grain of salt. All I'm saying is that I think that all of this chatter regarding October 1st may be tied into this alleged discovery. I said specifically that I am not endorsing the reality of this discovery. What exactly are you so angry about bub? Not enough hugs in your life? Would it help if I gave you a hug?

As I have said repeatedly, this is all based on a gut feeling, and take it with a grain of salt.

Not one of these statements is in your submission.

What exactly are you so angry about bub? Not enough hugs in your life? Would it help if I gave you a hug?

I think speaks worlds about your age and level of maturity

WHY DO PEOPLE COME TO THIS SUB TO FIGHT AND ARGUE ABOUT INFORMATION. ITS ABOUT SHARING IDEAS AND ACCEPTING OR REJECTING THEM. NOT JUST SAYING, "HEY YOUR A DIPSHT"

^ And if you could turn your attention to Exhibit B.

I don't even believe it to be honest but the way you go about this sub is wrong.

We should at least try polite constructive criticism. You guys have made good points about the problems with his post, but when you call him an idiot you just make yourself out to be a dick.

can you cite where i was rude?

Edit: only thing rude was my use of caps.

You need a hug too, buddy? Bring it in.

over 200 upvotes for fake news. this "story" has been on the internet for a long long time and its a repost. sorry to disappoint.

There are conspiracy theories then there are crazy people who are allowed to post shit on the internet.

Might be cool, but if it references the Vimanaka Shastra, it's a big pile of bullshit. That document is very recent, has essentially no scholarly research attributed to it, at least nothing reputable, and really has no basis in physics either.

Even wikipedia knows it's full of shit

"The existence of the text was revealed in 1952 by G. R. Josyer who asserted that it was written by Pandit Subbaraya Shastry (1866–1940), who dictated it during the years 1918–1923. A Hindi translation was published in 1959, while the Sanskrit text with an English translation was published in 1973. It contains 3000 shlokas in 8 chapters which Shastry claimed was psychically delivered to him by the ancient Hindu sage Bharadvaja."

It's CHANNELED MATERIAL. That should say all that one needs to know about its authenticity.

Yes, I too have always wondered why people brushed over this fact. confirmation bias perhaps?

but. but. but. ancient spacecraft!

and pies on windowsills made with the freshest blueberries...mmm mmm. I can practically smell it. And yet...no sill...no pie...it was just a fabrication of the mind.

This was either posted by an idiot or a shill to discredit this sub, either way this is a terrible post and as someone who is India I wish we didn't gravitate towards the whole ancient alien/vimanas shit. The entire ancient alien theory is reprehensible for so many reasons, and it really drags down this subreddit. I mean, in this day and age with quantitative easing from the Federal Reserve, billion dollar bailouts for broke banks that are "Too big to fail", and an American war machine on overdrive looking for any possible reason to bomb a country with brown people and their own ideas on the banking system and this is what is getting to the top of the page, a bullshit post about ancient aliens with ZERO evidence. Why don't you try something more tangible, more realistic, MORE TERRESTRIAL. Seriously go fuck yourself if you upvoted this, because you sully the term "conspiracy theorist".

I think there's room for both in this sub. We don't all look crazy by proxy as long as we keep a healthy dose of skepticism about stuff like this. Let's just try and not be dicks about it.

Look, when I get compelled to start talking about things like this, I go with it. You get a slightly different perspective on the value of gut feelings when the only reason you weren't killed in an explosion is that gut feeling.

I'll bite - what explosion?

it doesn't matter.

You brought it up, bruv. Just askin'...

I don't mean to be dismissive, it's just that it's not really relevant to this thread and I do want to protect my identity.

Fair enough.

Privacy is important.

Whaaat!? More info please. My interest has been piqued!

Well considering the main text used to support claims of these "flying palaces" was supposedly written in 1918 by a guy who said an ancient ghost told him all the details, AND that text only got published by someone completely different in the 50's, id say this is BS

I'm pretty sure these stories come from the Mahabharata, an ancient text from India.

Actually over the last two weeks I have seen some of the most strange and convincing aerial phenomena. I have had more sightings of HUGE things in the sky that are definitely not at our tech level and are almost certainly being controlled by some kind of sentience. I don't know if october 1st will be disclosure but I feel it is coming very soon and we will find out what all this UFO stuff is really all about.

October 1st is the end of the Fiscal Year, by the way, so the military rushes to expend whatever it has left on its budget before October 1st 2014 or the remaining balance may be deducted from next year's military budget, which is something that the Pentagon and the military industrial complex can not allow to happen. This is the reason that you see a lot of military drills and military activity in September, and the reason that you keep seeing the date October 1st over and over again is because it is the end of the Fiscal year, god this is such a stupid post, I honestly can't recall the last time I saw such transparent bullshit atop /r/conspiracy. This post is so stupid it makes my head hurt.

End of fiscal year is Oct 1st huh??

lol, okay he was off by a day.

Which completely fucks up his entire argument

Stupid like a fox.

We probably discovered it a long time ago pre 9/11 and we just needed an excuse to get in there, and what better way than a terrorist attack and the great distraction called Iraq.

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Hi there. Are you sure that I'm the goat you want to fuck with today or would you like to just slink back under your bridge?

He just wants you to drop down under the bridge so he can take it. Those pesky trolls...

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As have you.

Baa baa, bitch.

ok I think I may have something relevant to this

from this thread http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message2365244/pg1

the 41 minute mark of this following audio https://soundcloud.com/groundzeromedia

the Sept 24th show, titled ISON the Pandora Strain.

edit: to be specific theres some kind of whistleblower talking about some odd goings on in Puerto Rico

also just to re-iterate, this is all just going on my gut, so take it all with a big grain of salt.

well fine then, take it completely seriously if you want to. sheesh, there's no pleasing some people.

ok doke, I completely understand now why I was compelled to post this, but, and I'm really sorry about this, I can't talk about it until Oct 2nd.

id like a follow up

They are going to "save" us from it.

Such a great movie. Def an obscure reference.

Don't worry mate, I got it.

i got it too

^ And if you could turn your attention to Exhibit B.

Alternate Reality Game. like a live action roleplaying thing but designed so that people.. can sort of play it from anywhere over the internet.

Not that I'm some sort of expert on ARGs or anything.

Also, right now, there are probably a few people that are wondering if you are a sockpuppet account of mine and if this little conversation is some sort of coded way of saying that this whole thread is part of some ARG.

It's totally not guys. I am totally not DeeseDaGeese.

http://english.pravda.ru/society/anomal/28-11-2008/106764-soviet_ufo-0/

Sorry. pravda.