Who are our true masters?
7 2013-10-23 by weshouldnotknow
There was a quote that I can't find that went along the lines of "If you want to know who is in control then find out who you can't make fun of".
So who are the people at-the-top? Who are the people we can't make fun of? Who are the ones pulling the strings of members of every government on this planet, because the power surely does not lie with the voters/citizens/people, and it is easier to corrupt a member of any government to have them 'do the dirty work' than it is to convince everyone in the nation to become working zombies/slaves.
Perhaps the banking leaders?
How about the members of OPEC?
Maybe the people profiting off arms sales?
I am sure that I left out many other possibilities, but we need more light shone in dark places, to see the faces of those that have shaped this world of ours to somewhat resemble '1984'.
27 comments
4 atj098 2013-10-23
All I can say is that I have no idea who could be above Rothschild.
2 no1113 2013-10-23
A possibility
2 Dat_Nugga_Dust 2013-10-23
I hate to point out the obvious but often times people who have legitimate criticism of Zionism and Israel are falsely labeled anti-semite.
Well if your white you're an antisemite white nationalist extremist, if your are middle eastern you are a terrorist, if you are a Jew you are a self loathing Jew.
They have all the bases covered.
Voltaire said "To learn who rules over you, simply find out who you are not allowed to criticize."
But to answer your question YOU are the architect of your own destiny.
1 atj098 2013-10-23
"The greatest trick the devil has ever played on humanity was convincing us he doesn't exist." Sorry to burst your bubble, but we don't have much say in our destinies, or what goes on in the world. It's a big club, and we ain't in it.
2 Dat_Nugga_Dust 2013-10-23
I don't want to be in there shitty club for liars!
We have enough say in our destinies as we have free will. Thing is for most of us it's easy to choose the darker side and be a self serving ass hat but that will only do for a time.
There is still virtue and beauty in the lowliest sorts just as ugliness and harshness exists in the more "civilized" upper crust of society. Black and white and shades of grey. We can still choose to be of service to decent and good hardworking people. That is what a true master does. Everyone else is full of shit.
2 larrysilverstein 2013-10-23
i am.
1 no1113 2013-10-23
The "I" is the true master - as in "The True Self" - not to necessarily be confused with the ephemeral, physical, third dimensional self.
1 larrysilverstein 2013-10-23
nah nigga- i am.
2 no1113 2013-10-23
If you're referring to your physical self (which I can only assume you are by the descriptive you used), then you could in actuality be no further from the truth.
1 larrysilverstein 2013-10-23
sometimes i see someones leg and i just have to
pull it <---- <---- <----
2 no1113 2013-10-23
explode it in a controlled demolition?
1 larrysilverstein 2013-10-23
2 Reads_Small_Text_Bot 2013-10-23
1 Makes_Small_Text_Bot 2013-10-23
pull it &lt;---- &lt;---- &lt;----
1 Eats_Small_Text_Bot 2013-10-23
nom
1 no1113 2013-10-23
"Pull it" as the meaning pertains to what was done to building 7 is rather different than "pulling it" as it pertains to what you do when you're "pulling one's leg"/attempting to joke with someone.
0 larrysilverstein 2013-10-23
do you not get puns nigga?
2 no1113 2013-10-23
Only when they actually apply - meaning that I'm not sure exactly if you get puns. But it's okay.
1 Mizzlaki 2013-10-23
I believe that now the phrase should change a little bit. Because to not make fun of someone means that you know who he/she is. I don't think we have concrete information about the ones who truly rule.
1 Sachyriel 2013-10-23
Well since you can make fun of the people you're trying to talk about are people you don't know about. However the quote "If you want to know who is in control then find out who you can't make fun of" applies to explicit dictatorships moreso than our western democracies, though it still applies.
It doesn't only mean that men in a black van will come to get you if you start making bad puns about dear leader.
Think about social media, if you post a political joke on your profile and someone gets offended, reports it and it gets taken down, then that's a person you can't make fun of.
It's not because of a D-notice from the government, it's because your peers sold you out. The people at the top care little for what your opinion of them is, and wouldn't care if you were laughing at or with them.
Since you mentioned 1984 I wanted to point out that yeah, it could be like that, but you're still thinking that it's a government policy that you can't make fun of X-leader and Y-executives. It's actually the people you'd share your jokes with who aren't laughing at them that makes it impossible for you to poke fun at them in a real manner.
As an anarchist I'd make fun of all kinds of leaders, even ones that have respect on /r/conspiracy. If I can't make fun of Alex Jones, or the moderators of AboveTopSecret.com because someone here will object and make a fuss, then they are leaders I can't make fun of, because my audience isn't laughing.
2 raisedbysheep 2013-10-23
The distinction you are making is very important and insightful.
1 redrum732 2013-10-23
L. Ron Hubbard disciples
1 Letterbocks 2013-10-23
Honestly? Dunno.
1 no1113 2013-10-23
There is no "true master" that rules over the Real You, but this group is definitely more powerful and influential than most human minds can even begin comprehending.
1 raisedbysheep 2013-10-23
What do we know about the Hidden Hand besides this interview? Are you aware of other interviews or a name? Can the webmasters get the posters' IP address?
2 no1113 2013-10-23
Well, let's not call the group "The Hidden Hand" per se. Let's, instead, phrase the question this way: Do we know anything about any group as powerful as the Hidden Hand group is said to be besides what is mentioned in this interview?
In that manner, we can begin to certainly wrap our heads around such an influence on this planet. We know for a fact that there is a group on this planet so powerful that it is above every law and above every government - a group that, as I've mentioned before, can (among other things) rape and murder children with seeming impunity and entirely get away with it even AFTER they get all but caught in the act (see Conspiracy of Silence as but one example of what certain groups are capable of doing).
This, again, is but one example, and it alone seems to illustrate sufficiently that, again, there is a force on this planet that works above and beyond what most humans would consider even possible in a civilized society.
No idea actually.
I would imagine they might be able to, but I'm not certain if the webmaster would be willing to do this.
1 raisedbysheep 2013-10-23
Server administrators for Reality are in control. You log off by sleeping, deleting your character is equivalent to dying. You're in a coma when you stay logged out in upper reality for extended times. The MMO metaphor is extendable to the rest of your experience and beyond.
And it's a better fit than any other religion. And more exciting and addicting. Consider the upcoming expansions: Nanotechnology and PostHumans, Mars, server competition between worlds (think of Star Wars as an example of PvP/ "aliens" ), and eventually comic book superpowers and access to Heaven and Hell zones.
If you don't like the game, no one is forcing you to play. Just log-off. Make a better MMO.
1 atj098 2013-10-23
"The greatest trick the devil has ever played on humanity was convincing us he doesn't exist." Sorry to burst your bubble, but we don't have much say in our destinies, or what goes on in the world. It's a big club, and we ain't in it.