Sorry for the removal.

Automoderator doesn't like brand new accounts. I have approved the post manually.

retagged as the friendly banhammer

how do you tag people?

/r/Enhancement to learn more (sidebar).

Go here to get it.

Tis glorious

Using Reddit Enhancement Suite I believe.

Don't be too sure.

What means the "green" tag? Is this a mod or an admin?

Moderator, speaking officially, will have a green M Admin, speaking officially, will have a red A

I'm pretty sure, anyway

/u/P0eticJustice is right.

the mods can post and comment as normal users, but turn the little green 'M' on when it's business time.

/u/Flytape is the balls of this subreddit.

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Flytape, can you offer any explanation as to why he/she deleted this post and their account? Seems weird

OP got asked for proof and figured he wasn't going to fool anyone if he responded to the posts.

Because its a throwaway dude

I haven't a clue.

can I ask why OPs comments were removed?

The same reason. I pushed them thru as well.

Can you share something that only TSA agents would have, and something that wouldn't directly effect your anonymity.

If you don't want any trace shown as proof to /r/conspiracy, share it with one the trust worthy mods to confirm your identity.

Not that I don't want to believe you but it's a bit weird that you didn't seem to think that was important enough to mention before this whole thing happened.

Posting a picture of his user name by his blue shirt will get him killed!

It probably didn't seem that important at the time. One of those "Yeah right" kind of things you hear and just dismiss.

Interesting. About 6 months ago, I went to my local pistol range and the first six lanes were occupied by TSA agents receiving training from a uniformed DHS cop.

Location? So someone can confirm with a quick phone call to give OP some credibility?

Oh come on, why would you need any proof? We all know that uniformed DHS cops would train TSA agents to use guns about six months before a false flag attack. And they would do it in "local" (public) pistol ranges, because the government does not have any private weapons ranges and there would be absolutely nothing suspicious about a uniformed DHS cop training a bunch of TSA agents.

See? Makes total sense. No reason whatsoever to doubt this story.

maybe some proof would be nice?

I assume you mean that you want proof that this was orchestrated?

Because it only took me 5 seconds on Google to find proof of TSA gun ranges in many major cities.

I work for ICE/DHS as an intern and DHS provides all branches the availability to use of a gun range.

Thank you for that confirmation. Funny thing, though.

TSA has been seeking firing ranges independently.

That I did not know. Any idea as to why they would want their own?

No idea. My only experience with the TSA is that they are uneducated overweight rude assholes that make you take your shoes off at the airports.

And just imagine them with guns. ::shudder::

LOL. To be honest, aside from the part about the shoes, the same can be said for most of the people that show up at gun shows in Texas.

Yeah and they are terrible shots too. Haha

Not so sure about that. Two weeks ago watched an old fat Texas farmer shoot the best grouping I've ever seen. With a .410 slug from 300 yards.

I bought him a beer and he called me a Yankee six times while drinking it. Fucker.

Well maybe not all. Haha all the ones I've seen were far from impressive. If you see that man again give him a high five for me!

One does not simply hug crusty old farmers in Texas.

What if I told you I said high five, not hug.

I'd still think you were gay.

Kidding.

Yeah, the police would report it as assault with a deadly weapon (Hippie Love) and the farmer would be justified in defending himself with deadly force.

The TSA is responsible for Air Marshals. It seems likely that they are seeking a range for Air Marshals.

There are also a number of other armed TSA staff (including many members of their VIPR teams).

While most TSA employees are unarmed TSOs not all TSA staff are unarmed. They still have legitimate and current need for firing ranges.

The TSA is responsible for Air Marshals.

Technically, we can blame the British.

I think I meant "have oversight of" Air Marshals, rather than "was the cause of" - but sure.

That literally Proves nothing

I just took a look at your history. You literally post nothing.

Edit: Come on conspiratard bitches. You can't even downvote correctly. I'm sitting here watching my vote count climb like a mofo.

You bitches can't do anything right.

What does that even mean?

It's a complex system that involves stringing letters together into these things called words. When you create enough of these words they form something called sentences.

Words and sentences become a basis for communication.

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How are things at r/conspiratard, coward?

coward

What do you have to gain by calling him a coward

What do you have to gain by defending him?

Letting you ramble some more. This whole subreddit is a dog barking at its own reflection in a window

Yeah. You just described someone that is obsessed with discrediting a forum filled with people they portray as crazy.

Mainly, you. A very humorous paradox.

How am I obsessed? This is the first time I've posted here

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Your previous comments made it quite obvious.

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As long as I can make an ass out of you, making and ass out of me is inconsequential. I'm just a nutjob, right?

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Unfair? Fuck off with that. Your base judgments are meaningless. You jumped into a string of comments and threw this comment:

"It means his delusions have taken over to the point where he can't even string together coherent comments"

For a guy with 15 posts on that account (six of them in this thread, by the way), you are pretty comfortable calling people out. I almost took you seriously for a second, so I guess you have that going for you, but based on what I have seen from you, with an extremely limited post count but a pretty casual and comfortable way of posting like an asshole from the beginning of your history, I think we both know that you are posting from a duplicate account and that makes you a coward.

Dickless. Spineless. And pointless.

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Exactly

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That happened hours ago.

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I'm talking about the fact that you are a legless stooge that has not actually engaged in the subject matter of this topic even once. You are here to try to stir shit and failing at it.

Which means that you are my little bitch. Now go ahead and pretend to bleed from the heart about something relevant to this thread so I can destroy you further.

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My little bitch.

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I'm doing it with every post. You could have prevented your intellectual rape by not assuming that you could just drop a half assed insult on a guy who you knew nothing about, instead you played the troll role and got yourself into an exchange that you are still trying to find your place in by making moronic generalities. Please let us continue this conversation for days, because I am enjoying your attempts to find something that you think gives you some sort of leverage in an argument that you started with the sole purpose of antagonism. And can't finish.

The fact that you are relying on general "loon" descriptions is like candy to me, because you completely avoided my reference to the fact that you haven't bothered to address the subject of this thread.

You aren't here to debate or discuss. You are here to try to anger people, and you aren't good at it. At all.

Might as well lick my boots. You really aren't serving any other purpose.

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Keep responding to me without saying anything. Because that is all you have.

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LOL. I'm grasping at straws? Come on. Are you ever going to do anything but mount a generic defense? Do you have anything at all to offer?

Please describe how:

A: I am projecting B: I am grasping at straws

Do you have anything but generic responses? Are you a bot? Do you have a functioning brain?

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You're not licking fast enough.

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Keep trolling maybe you'll get a bitcoin.

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Yeah... you have done so much to combat the idea that you are a troll.

I'm going to have to sign off for the night but I look forward to an empty response in the morning, my little bitch

Goodnight.

You're in the wrong sub if you want proof

https://www.urbanshield.org/index.php/bay-area-urban-area-security-initiative

Another piece of striking evidence- http://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/1pqxk6/tsa_employee_here_they_planned_this/cd55mrm

While I agree with the premise of the OP's statement, one part strikes me as curious: why is he going into hiding "for a while." And why is it scary for him? While I can understand the implications of an armed TSA (I am hearing Nazi party songs in my head and seeing visions of brown-shirts), I do not understand why the OP would react this way. If he is part of the organization, then he should benefit.

Unless he feels that TSA/NSA surveillance is so deep that they would disappear him once he shows up to his shift on Monday, I can only see this post as a capitalization on current events, and a sensationalized mess. The last time I flew, the TSA guards were still pimply idiots with no pretense of any sort of paramilitarism.

EDIT: All of the OP's information looks to have come straight from the Infowars article:

http://www.infowars.com/script-flipped-lax-shooter-is-mad-at-intrusive-security-screenings-had-note-mentioning-nwo-new-world-order?reddit

This is absolutely worthless without proof.

No it's not. Why do you need everything spelled out for you? A pile of circumstantial evidence is still evidence.

This isn't circumstantial evidence at all. For all we know OP is an anti TSA writer that just wants to get more people to believe in this narrative so he can sell more stories, or get more clicks on his website.

Nobody is taking his Reddit testimony to the UN. Just read it and file it along with all the other "what-ifs" you come across. If they pile up, you have a pattern. That pattern is circumstantial evidence.

Nope. You can't file this testimony under what-ifs because this is not how you collect evidence. This is precisely how misinformation gets passed around, and this is how people like the LAX shooter get confused into doing terrible things.

Pray tell, how does one collect evidence?

If you are interested in how to collect actual evidence then maybe read up on it. But I feel like you just want to be a smart ass.

You're talking about empirical evidence. In this case, there is none. Before the big disclosure happens, a lot of things that really, truly are happening will remain hidden from empirical view.

Just because something can't be proven conclusively doesn't mean it's true. This reductionist mindset that prevails on Reddit simply doesn't work for this stuff.

Did you even read what you wrote?

No, I didn't. Any reason you ask?

Why wouldn't they just arm TSA? Sounds like bullshit.

Typical, remove a great post. The NSA reddit editor must be working overtime.

DUDE Chill seriously, it was automoderator.

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So weird that you are only speaking about events after the fact, wonder why you didn't say any of this, you know, months ago when your spooky supervisor kept telling you these things?

i'm literally thissing as hard as i can right now

It's a huge stretch to link 4 months ago with Friday's events.

It's a huge stretch to say "Hey conspiracy, my supervisor keeps telling us we're gonna get armed in 4 months thanks to the DHS and he refuses to elaborate! He is making us all go get our CCWs!"? Come on.

nah, /u/douglasmacarthur has no power here.

That's what you think.

!

That's some scary shit if it's true. Oh my god.

LAX gift store employee here, this is a throwaway, but I want to tell you all, they planned this to arm gift shop employees. They have been telling us for months to get certified and to use one of their "ranges" by the airport if you want to get certified. I didn't know what it was all about but when I got there, they told us "within 4 months (back in Sept) you will be allowed to carry and arrest, as well as search and seize property." When I asked "how?" the guy at the range just said "I don't know how you're gonna get your gun, but you can thank DHS for it" and walked away. That's the only answer I got.

Then this happens. I won't say which gift shop I work at, only that I know for certain that we planned this to gain the power to carry guns, and once that happens, well, I don't even know how people will react. The official story is that there are home-grown cells of "radicals" that want to hurt us. I don't know what else to do but to warn you guys, this has ALL been planned since at least September. I won't be returning to work on Monday, and I will be in hiding for a while. This is scary.

LAX Pretzel cart vendor here. They have been trying to arm us pretzel vendors for awhile now too I can confirm what the gift shop employee is confirming.

Hard to sell pretzels without arms!

LAX American Airlines ticket counter rep here. They have been trying to arm us airline reps as well. I can confirm everything these folks are saying about the ranges and DHS. Of course they are probably going to disappear me for this, but I had to make sure this got out.

Frequent LAX flyer here. They have been trying to arm us passengers who are stuck waiting in 2-3 hour long security lines with firearms as well, so I can confirm that the pretzel cart vendor's confirmation of the gift shop employee's confirmation of the TSA agent's assertion is, in fact, the truth. If you're still in denial about the state of our nation, then YOU CAN'T HANDLE THE TRUTH.

LAX Janitor. Happy days. Now I can carry a concealed shotgun in my waste basket. Bring it on pretzel and gift store people!

Dude have you had the pretzels with nacho sauce? You are already armed with deadly gut bombs, why would you need a gun?

i swear i saw at 4:07 PT the mayor (?) say the words "BEFORE WE KNEW THIS WAS GOING TO HAPPEN" during a news conference outside LAX on friday afternoon...(not sure if it was the mayor)...he then introduced the LAX spokeswoman.

isn't that an odd thing to say? it was on national tv (fox, during a "live" break in by Shep on greta's friday show) and i rewound it twice...(i hate MSM but check in once in a while to decipher their propaganda)

Even weirder:

http://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/1pqxk6/tsa_employee_here_they_planned_this/cd55mrm

Police chief - We played out today. We played out today. We PLAYED OUT TODAY.

That is exactly what he said.

You're posting litterally the exact same comment on several posts on this topic.

anti-telephone. You can't change the past.

As a CIA agent I can confirm this post is as true as much I am CIA agent.

Does TSA have badges or something? You can show it to us removing any sensetive information on it at least.

So instead of having a shooting event at LAX to allow the TSA to have guns, why didn't they simply issue the TSA guns? Americans already let them set up their checkpoints and their body scanners. There was a bit of protest but that was quick to go silent. I'm pretty sure the majority of Americans wouldn't even bat an eye if they heard the TSA was now going to be certified to carry guns. Most Americans don't give a shit about "minor infringements of their rights" if they think it will add to their security. Not to mention there were police and FBI headquartered in this airport so it is the worst airport to do something like this at if you are trying to make a case for giving the TSA guns. Guns were already on scene.

Out of the blue, it might make people nervous. Now, it seems totally justified. It's similar to the TSA's very existence - without 9/11, the TSA would seem creepy and unnecessary.

even with 9/11 the TSA is creepy and unnecessary

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I think if anything this would help an argument for having a tsa screening point at the main entrance of airports as well. There were already plenty of armed personnel on scene so tsa having guns wouldn't have made much of a difference at this airport.

This gives credence to the 'slip-up' by the LAPD Police Chief

This is the exact situation we planned for, that played out today. We played out today. both men around him hang heads, like WTF did you just say

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=0xRvW0YH-ag#t=86

That is awesome. He even said it twice, almost like a stutter. He fucked up, realized it, and fucked up again in a matter of five seconds.

You realize he is saying that in reference to the active shooter drill they did a few weeks ago right? Not saying "we did this and killed these people today ", but rather that they had played out this same scenario in training recently.

Yeah he still wasn't supposed to say that though

Why not? Why is saying "This is the same scenario we ran through in a preparedness drill recently" a bad thing? In the army we always did drills for possible scenarios so that when it happens you know what to do. Is that bad or something?

But the exact situation? really the exact? and this seems to happen with every recent incident

Yeah, they played out the same scenario in the past, but they were living out the real event. Do you say, "Honey, I'm home from my police officer job, I played out an incident today where I shot someone." Or do you say, "Honey, I'm home, I had an incident today where I shot someone."

Yes, you would say "luckily we played out this scenario a few weeks ago and now we are living through the real thing, This is why preparedness drills are so important."

I appreciate you coming forward, and I suspect this is true. However, in order to avoid the label of tin foil hat wearer I feel that we need more to go on. You have told us a story, a believable story, but nonetheless this is not solid evidence.

I feel that this is them eroding personal freedoms, but I don't have any solid evidence other than the trail of a bunch of little things here and there.

"I won't say which airport I work at"

OK

is it the only airport that has a firing range or atleast a nearby firing range??

Hiding? That's a bit extreme...

I'm with /u/JuicyStalin . In my opinion, I think you're a fraud and you are paid to spread lies and propaganda. http://i.imgur.com/hneBy6R.jpg

I would be so much more inclined to believe this if more than one person died. I doubt one death will result in this massive overhaul of a government agency because with how many people travel through LAX, it really is a stretch to think that the ONLY death that's ever occurred on the premises of an on-duty TSA employee would lead to the public's blind acceptance of new policies.

I agree with you but it's not as though any of these agencies seem to care about public acceptance of anything any more...

You'd be surprised what the media propaganda machine is capable of.

mirror???

Here you go

TSA employees will never carry guns. They don't have the training for it.

You must feel very important to make up such an interesting story.

"...get certified..."

"...use one of their 'ranges'..."

He's saying that they WILL be undergoing training.

No, they won't. This is bullshit.

Yah but what he is saying is nonsense. First of all, the ranges are open to all agencies, it's not to be confused with them planning to army he TSA. In order to have armed agents they would have to select employees with a much stricter hiring process. They can't just train existing employees how to shoot and then arm them, that's not how it works.

They can pick the cream of the crop to arm and leave the others unarmed. Two levels of TSA. Doesn't have to be an all or nothing deal.

Also, how many screeners are private? Will this be an argument to privatize more?

I think you're missing the point here

Am I? Because I think this whole subreddit is about missing the point.

The Federal regulations for government employees who carry guns are quite extensive. TSA employees don't go through nearly that sort of screening and training.

If you really think the Feds are capable of orchestrating a conspiracy of this sort, you're an idiot. This is not how government works.

I don't doubt that the plan has been to arm the TSA for a while now, but I doubt the shooting in the LA airport had anything to do with it.

Non American here, what exactly did they plan?

Here is an American perspective. Most of our police are armed and armored. For example, they carry Glock .40cal sidearms, drive cars with armor, carry AR-15 rifles, .308cal rifles, and shotguns in their cars, have electronic road controlling devices in their cars, and often wear bullet-proof vests.

The TSA agents wear plain clothes and are not armed.

If a mad-man had attacked three cops, the cultural belief is that one or two cops might have fired back and "won" the encounter.

This guy left a neat note stating he was out to kill "cops and TSA agents", so we are informed that he equated them in his mind.

But, and here is the tear-jerker part, the TSA agents are unarmed. So by lumping them in with cops, who are armed, the killer was going after the unarmed and defenseless civil servant. But, wait, do we not ask this civil servant, this "TSA agent" to protect us from armed terrorists? So they are like a police^* and therefore we owe it to these civil servants to arm them so they can defend themselves. It is unjust that we put them in harm's way without a weapon for each of them to defend him or herself in the line of duty.

So the thinking is that the TSA high-ups picked a low-down agent that they needed to "frag" (i.e., rub out, kill), and then stage a false psycho incident in which a "Conspiracy Theorists" confronts a TSA agent because he was out to kill "cops and TSA agents." Then they can change the status of TSA from unarmed to heavily armed and armored, without yet arousing much suspicion from the farmers.

^* (although a posse commitatus under our law, and so, not a legal police in reality)

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Aq-G4HATiC8&feature=youtube_gdata_player

OP do you think this will also expand the VIPR teams program and expand the possibility of other types of transportation "security" like, say, your own vehicle, toll booths, or other such things?

His name is "C.I.A. n C.I.A." - - seriously?

Can you shut up about the name and focus on the real issues, as outlined by the OP?

http://www.ancientfaces.com/surname/ciancia-family-history/46724

464 records of the Ciancia family

Not the most common family name, but it exists.

pipe or post. only do one of these at a time, mon.

I am glad you are not returning to work.

basically, the masons run law enforcement. cops, fbi, etc. they dont always do a perfect job and they have their own agenda, but they do at least believe in the principles this nation was founded on (they founded it) and they HATE tyranny, so much so that they will sometimes work around those principles to keep america safe from those actors and agents of tyranny in the world who are always seeking to use our own constitution against us.

ok now that is understood. the tsa is being transformed into a parallel law enforcement agency. you may have seen the 'explosives detection/k9 tsa cars' patrolling streets in your town. eventually, jurisdiction over the streets will be transferred from the police to the tsa. when that happens, you can fully expect "papers please" and search and siezures everywhere you go, and I mean EVERYWHERE.

the masons and police are aware this is coming, which is why they have been acquiring militarized equipment. they are preparing for war, not against you, but against the tsa. you may not like the police, that is fine. but please understand that the tsa is not on your side or the side of liberty. you don't have to pick sides in what is coming, but please just recognize the tsa is really really bad.

I agree they're bad, but mostly in a steal-your-silver-penknife-and-sell-it-on-Ebay kinda way.

I doubt the lynchpin of the federal crackdown on open society is a bunch of people who couldn't do better than minimum wage issued .38's after a couple weeks at the range.

Ooh now that you mentioning, arming rubes is a really worrisome sign. The rube losers are the ones they put up front to deal with the masses. The rube losers take the big losses so the second line responds on an alert status. I hadn't realize that the TSA thing means we're in the end game, down to a knight and a king or something.

The front line of the tyrant army appears to be the second line. The practical front line is made up not of tyrants, but of those in the thrall of the tyrants.

It's like this all the way back, so that it is not clear whether the Rothschilds are the tyrants or just the (N-1)th layer of rube loser. That is, perhaps we have seen past a curtain, perhaps we only imagine so.

I just spent a very long time reading an awful lot on this sub about the Rothchilds et al, and I have this nagging question - the Rothchilds are part of a vast Jewish conspiracy, yet they are responsible for the Holocaust.

I feel that you can't have both; please pick one.

I feel that you can't have both

That is your feeling. For feelings, you should talk to a shrink.

In particular, the Rothschilds are not Jews, but Khazars. Regardless, if you research the WWII Thyssen Corporation, you will find that there were elite Jews who collaborated with the Nazis to perpetrate the Jewish holocaust.

So I am listening to you fervently now. I can tell anyone who will listen, yes, the cops are run by the Masons.

So I really believe you, a lot. Could you please tell me, this is not a sarcastic question in any way, who, in your view, is running the TSA?

who specifically I don't know.

Well, who are the enemies of the Masons?

In no particular order:

A) Prior to WWII, the Catholics.

B) As of WWII, the Nazis.

C) Knights Hospitalier?

D) Assassins?

E) Chinese Communist Party?

F) Shinto / Bushido?

Finally, what is the alignment of Saudi Arabia's Royal family w.r.t. Masonry, if you have light on that.

traditional islam is opposed to masonry. i do not know if the saudi royals really strictly adhere to that form of islam or just support it because it supports their ends. you are correct on the other items. could be any or all of the above as a diffuse channel of funds utilizing useful idiots who make their heads talk for money. in reality you only need direct control over a handful of directors (media and corporate) and editors (news and fiction) with a steady stream of cash and you can shift the zeitgeist this way and that.

edit: i would not trust the catholic church now or ever, no matter how reformed or populist they appear to be under people like francis.

Can you describe the faction in general terms? I know I'm on the light-colored squares, so I am looking for more intelligence as to who 'they' are.

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I'm looking for more along the lines of "Satanist," or "Child Molesters" or something I can really take action on. What I am not looking for is the web page the Child Molesting Satanists made to answer my question, huh durp.

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You're more dense than lead.

If true, now we know why the government has been buying up all the bullets. People of TSA we are people just like you and don't take kindly to government control over people. If this was another staged event to further the control agenda then we are screwed.

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There are lots a good people out there that just want to live in peace and be happy on this planet without government NWO control. Also if Cops have itchy trigger fingers now how would the TSA untrained agents be with a weapon. Down right scary if you ask me!

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Be safe everyone!

All to sell more guns

https://www.urbanshield.org/index.php/bay-area-urban-area-security-initiative

I knew it!

awww thats horrible

Thanks for the heads-up.

Here you go

What do you have to gain by defending him?