So there's an ex-CIA agent who teaches at my University. Tomorrow he is doing a presentation on the JFK assassination. I will take notes and post them here.
187 2013-11-21 by [deleted]
Edit 1: Because some of you don't know how to read. I never said, or even implied, that what this guy was saying to be true.
Edit 2: the presentation is at 7 pm Eastern Standard. So wait till 9 and I'll have everything updated by then.
Edit 3: I cannot video/audio record it. Only take paper notes. I'm sorry. His rules.
Edit 4: t-minus 4 minutes to start time
President Kennedy was exhumed in 1967 to move him 100 yards.
There were 3 assassination attempts on Kennedys life in November; the 3rd in Chicago (thwarted by law enforcement), 18th in Tampa - Kennedy told cuban rebels that they had the US' support for all out war, and the 21st-22nd.
On the evening of the 21st, the secret service who was protecting the hotel Kennedy stayed at and the motorcade the next day, went out on the town for drinks.
On the 19th of November , Dallas newspapers published a map of the presidents route.
November 22nd, 12:30 pm, Dealey Plaza: a shot was fired in the vicinity of the president , and the secret service has done nothing for the president. However they covered Johnson.
The police officer to the back left was hit with blood and brain matter. BACK AND TO THE LEFT. not back and to the right towards Oswald
"The magic bullet is bullshit"
Oswald was not a good shot, and did not take the shot where he should have on Houston street - coming right towards him Oswald did not act alone.
The governor was shot more than 3 times.
J. Edgar Hoover decided the case was closed the evening of the 22nd.
Oswald was never interrogated and was just declared guilty, and working alone on the spot.
'Oswald' missed a shot by 100 feet
The 2nd and 3rd shots were rapid
2 shots hit Kennedy, and 3 shots hit the governor, more than 4 shots had to have been fired.
Look into the book Best Evidence by David Lifton/Lipton
The FBI altered photos, and the body itself of the president.
The exit wound in Kennedy's head was bigger than a human fist.
During the autopsy a bullet fell out of his back. Photos were altered so it would make sense. FBI agents recorded this, and sealed it away.
Curtis Lamagne(FBI Agent) hated Kennedy, and he wanted to watch the autopsy. He probed the back wound and said it only went in an inch. That was supposed to be the magic bullet. However that was the 4th bullet. Therefore there had to be at least 2 shooters.
Conclusion: the Warren commission was wrong.
Random fact: Kennedy and Monroe did have sexual relations.
36 comments
19 fuckeh 2013-11-21
Could you just take video of his presentation?
4 downtherabbit 2013-11-21
At least audio is needed otherwise its useless.
16 TheNewAmericanJedi 2013-11-21
Surely OP will deliver.
19 dewitt_94 2013-11-21
You have my word, random citizen.
12 Sarah_Connor 2013-11-21
If you have a modern cellphone -- use the AUDIO NOTES app.
It can record a hell of a lot longer than video -- but be warned it needs to be close to the speaker. So if you can hide your phone under the podium - in say an unmarked backpack with a pressure cooker inside, to make people think you're just into soup... that would be great.
(OK OK kidding about the soup....)
:)
I had an ad-hoc meeting with people at a conference (On Tavistok, no less) and the audio record feature was fantastic!!
2 fredman555 2013-11-21
6 archonemis 2013-11-21
Can you borrow a recorder?
On the reals, I'd be stoked to learn whatever you can pass on.
2 ronintetsuro 2013-11-21
It's tomorrow. Still patiently waiting.
3 dewitt_94 2013-11-21
4 hours 12 minutes until the presentation itself.
4 TodaysIllusion 2013-11-21
You will know he is lying if he sticks with Oswald or points to Cuba, Mafia, LBJ.
4 VancouverSucks 2013-11-21
LBJ was in on it obviously..hes a puppet but he was in on it.
2 alllie 2013-11-21
No he wasn't.
2 bigupurself7 2013-11-21
Its much easier if the President is not in on it. Plausible deniability. The presidents are just pupets
1 WingedSandals 2013-11-21
I've always seen a similarity in the faces LBJ makes as he's being sworn in and the dumbstruck blankness GWB has on his face sitting in that classroom on 9/11. "Shit's happening, let me keep my head down and go along for the ride."
3 RichieRich0545 2013-11-21
Do it. I'll wait here.
2 TimmayTheTurtle 2013-11-21
What University?
2 LouisWinthorpIII 2013-11-21
Better: Ask his permission to video record it.
2 Fruit-Jelly 2013-11-21
Record it. Don't take notes. Audio or Video would be great.
2 alllie 2013-11-21
CIA =/= Truth
3 ThrustGoblin 2013-11-21
Ex-CIA == Truth?
3 alllie 2013-11-21
No. First there's no such thing as EX-CIA.
1 iNewworldorder 2013-11-21
use your phone to voice record
1 jefffffffff 2013-11-21
RECORD IT. Taking notes is meaningles because its not reliable. record it an be hailed as a hero
1 funkarama 2013-11-21
I will go with video record, failing that, audio record.....
1 sgtpinback 2013-11-21
CIA has many ex agents who woke up and then were killed or controlled. very few have the courage to tell the truth. keep that in mind... here is a fun fact..arizona state university has a president that is from a cia incubator, inqtel. so keep in mind, too, what his superiors might be telling him to say.
1 Drew_cifer 2013-11-21
Be a champ and record the audio anyway. It's not hard to hide a recording device.
1 Canbot 2013-11-21
Ask him if agents of the CIA were importing cocaine, would there be any way for the public to find out and or do anything about it. Also, as someone who knows how secret organizations work; does he think we can trust the NSA with all of our information, and not expect that they will prop up possibly corrupt people with connections while crushing reform.
1 fredman555 2013-11-21
Fuck his rules. Sneak one in, anytime anyone in the government/media asks to not record, thats a sign that you SHOULD record because theyre about to say some stuff they dont want coming back to them.
Bring a camera bro, use your phone if you dont have one. If he has a Freudian slip on something, it should be captured for the world to see, rather than having it drowned in the sea of "hear-say" from some guy on the internet.
1 dewitt_94 2013-11-21
...but I like this guy. He's the bomb diggity.
1 fredman555 2013-11-21
its your call in the end. Just dont kick yourself too hard if he says something you wish you recorded ;)
1 Al89nut 2013-11-21
If he believes Best Evidence he knows very little of value.
0 brownestrabbit 2013-11-21
Made up shit by a made up professors/former-CIA agent.
1 drunkenshrew 2013-11-21
There are quite a lot of overtly employed former CIA-officers who teach at univiersities. For at least two and a half decade the CIA has an official Officer-in-Residence program which facilitates former CIA employees to teach at universities.
https://www.cia.gov/library/center-for-the-study-of-intelligence/csi-publications/csi-studies/studies/vol49no4/Officers_in_Residence_3.htm
http://www.cia-on-campus.org/foia/oir.html
I don't know how often these former officials tow the official line, but quite a lot of former CIA officers have come to very different conclusions and don't shy away to blame elements within the CIA for various crimes like the murder of JFK.
The CIA has also a history to covertly sponsor intellectuals. These intellectuals propagate a certain agenda in their lectures, reports, research articles and academic books.
1 brownestrabbit 2013-11-21
Yeh, I was just being a snarky asshole.
You make wonderful points and are likely accurate.
-2 indocilis 2013-11-21
but what if he knows you are there to take notes to post here won't that affects what he says?
19 dewitt_94 2013-11-21
You have my word, random citizen.
2 alllie 2013-11-21
No he wasn't.
2 bigupurself7 2013-11-21
Its much easier if the President is not in on it. Plausible deniability. The presidents are just pupets