No conspiracy here.

really? so why is it then that people are being told to destroy their furniture? or spend thousands of dollars?

i guess if you let the infestation get completely out of control that could be one way of dealing with it, but to me $12 for a plastic encasement for my mattress made a lot more sense than throwing away the mattress i paid ~$1600 for ~5 years ago and can't afford to replace.

perhaps i should clarify; i didn't actually believe that it had anything to do with making money off of it, rather i saw it as a power play to scare people into acting irrationally and being more easily manipulated.

part of said tactic was costing people money; the people who could do this sort of thing make more money from indirectly feeding on people's fears and paranoias than they ever would selling furniture or pest control services.

now, i wouldn't go so far as to call it a theory, more like a concern. if the taxi driver is just being an idiot then that makes me feel a lot better than if a bunch of people here started reporting similar experiences of public hysteria, which would be more indicative of an actual conspiracy.

i mean i knew someone who had H1N1 and that scare hardly seemed worthy of the degree of fear it generated.

and i probably was just over-reacting to the taxi driver's temper tantrum, and i was cranky because i was in a lot of physical pain yesterday and my sheets tore at the seam (as has part of my mattress) so i wasn't sure if the pain i was experiencing may have had something to do with the chemical treatment of the mattress, if that's what caused the threading to start to deteriorate for no apparent reason. i mean my mattress is like 5 or 6 years old (bought brand new) and has a 20 year warranty, and i never had any problems with threading on my mattress or sheets until they sprayed for bugs and fumigated my apartment.

seeing as i'm somewhat sensitive to subtle environmental changes, it didn't seem like a big stretch to consider that the chemical treatments played a role in feeling bad physically. which kind of pissed me off. and then knowing that bedbugs are just some children's rhyme and then actual critters suddenly pop up out of nowhere to be an "epidemic", combined with the idea that sleep deprivation causes hallucinations and bugs-on-skin is one of the most common hallucinations, it didn't seem like a huge stretch that someone could be purposefully trying to induce psychosis in people.

so that is where i'm coming from, i've had first hands experience with the kinds of people who would easily be capable of such things. sadly it's human nature to manipulate and control others to gain power over them, and this seemed a bit too weird to me to be some random coincidence.

lol sure you can it worked for me.

because a diagnosis means that I completely lack credibility, right?

of course it's necessary to post this multiple times in reply to other people's replies to my posting, as if me saying it myself wasn't enough.

you gotta be completely sure that everyone knows what an ableist you are, in the off chance that one of the other bigots on here forgets to be ableist too and actually takes something i say at face value instead of outright dismissing it the way you do.

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thanks for playing!

Well I'm not a slob; I'm very clean. I'm just living in a cheap apartment building because I'm more committed to the idea of freedom than I am to the idea of working a day job to afford a higher standard of living.

I've seen plenty of evidence that people in power are quick to find ways to siphon money out of others. I've seen a lot of evidence that the media is quick to turn molehills into mountains and scare people into thinking things in the world are a lot worse than they really are.

Maybe i'm overreacting but it does concern me when people like that taxi driver start freaking out over what amounts to an annoyance.

But then I also think it's stupid for people to rack up credit card debt and to work second jobs to buy material junk they don't really need and don't have time to enjoy because they're too busy working, but that's just me.

aww thanks for the pep talk, it does help a lot :) i'll send you a PM.

schizo isn't an identity; it's a diagnosis.

But why are you scared? I'm thinking that one can get rid of them without spending exorbitant amounts of money and exposing themselves to toxic chemicals.

Know what scares me a lot more than bedbugs? Having ulnar nerve issues that are triggering raynaud's phenomenon, which may very well be related to being exposed to these pesticides.

I'm thinking that I should have just taken care of the problem myself instead of getting pest control involved. Isolating the bed, getting dust mite covers, and steam cleaning the area probably would have plenty sufficient.

You need to be asking the BIG questions in life like "why do BB's exist?" and "do they have bed bugs where there are no beds?"

As in why they exist in general in the USA, after being mostly eradicated here? Probably because of the illuminati or similar shadowy group planted them.

As to why they showed up in my apartment? Probably because they snuck in from a neighbor's apartment.

hmm yeah that is a good question. i'm not sure what the history is behind them.

which pesticides do you mean?

i'm not entirely sure what they used actually. i think they wrote it down on the slip of paper they gave me for the first treatment, but that was a few months ago and i would have to dig it up.

i'm hoping the ulnar thing is as simple as me getting a krink in my neck from not sleeping so well for a couple days? right now it feels like i fell on top of my left elbow with full body weight (like hitting the "funny bone"), and a couple days ago my right hand was all messed up to where my pinky and ring fingers were cold and numb, which was triggering raynaud's symptoms, so i'm not sure what the issue is but i'm hoping to get to the bottom of it soon.

my pillow case and the side of my bedspread, as well as one of the seams on the mattress came undone though, and the only logical explaination I can think of for that is that the chemicals being used must have weakened the stitching somehow. and if it can do that to textile thread then it's not implausible that exposure could cause some health issue, although i only ever noticed allergies before.

so you make a really good point. i did change up my workout routine a few days ago and i did too heavy of a weight on one of my exercises so it seems like the origin could be pulling something in my back/shoulders/neck and having that pinch the nerves or something. it's just that the issue on my left arm is what i had in my right arm for a couple days and it's it switched sides of the body. i did these ulnar stretches i found on youtube on my right arm for a couple days and then it went away there so perhaps i should have been doing the stretches on both sides, so i'll try that next. it doesn't help though when i'm tossing and turning trying to get to sleep. so i hope i can heal, i'm really trying to get back to 100%, and have had more than my fair share of injuries this year.

Sometimes i get these sharp burning arthritis pains in my feet for about 10 or 15 seconds that are bad enough to cause me to jump out of bed in the middle of the night from excruciating pain, but it comes and goes so fast it's really hard to pinpoint the cause of that. this only happens occasionally like every six weeks or so, and my best guess is that it's some kind of arthritis. so i'm not really sure.

i don't think anyone's screwing with me now, but i do have some traumatic memories of being experimented on, like some MI-LABS / MK-ULTRA type crap. i guess because i have some level of awareness that others don't that is exploitable in some way?

i was literally put under anesthesia on 9/10/01, and it seemed really weird to me how circumstances seemed to coalesce to ensure that i was in the hospital for surgery on that particular date. as if those involved in causing the 9/11 stuff needed me "offline" for some reason. i mean maybe it's a coincidence that i just happened to be out on that day, but it sure doesn't feel like it.

i know that two years ago i got "chipped" by some human doing a bad job of convincing me they were a "gray" alien, who implanted something in my left bicep. i had help from a friend of a friend in a secret society i used to be in, who came by and extracted the chip from me in exchange for keeping it. i suspect he was NSA or CIA, but he wouldn't tell me, just i felt like he was one of the "good" guys fighting the assholes who chipped me. i was left with a huge black bruise on my entire bicep that took a good six weeks to heal.

So I do think it's quite possible that the various tests I have been subjected to have left me with some residual issues, like having extreme temperature sensitivity that was badly triggered by the sudden recent drop in temperature over the last week or so.

LSD is pretty wonderful but i do think those shadowy groups are monitoring people who use it. i don't know your history and haven't read a bunch of your posts, but it's possible that the pain you experienced was related to something those guys did. posting with that username in places like /r/conspiracy is fairly likely to get you on someone's radar. :P

i have been rather vocal lately about some disputes i've had with those secret society guys that i had a falling out with, but i honestly doubt they'd do anything to explicitly cause me problems. and the NSA is supposed to be keeping the dangerous shadowy people off my back in exchange for some work i did for them around 3 years ago. (had the secret society people not helped me with the chip i would have talked to them next)

So i'm not prepared to think that these health issues i've been dealing with over the past couple weeks are an attack. i think it's just life, a bit of bad luck, if it becomes chronic i'll be concerned but for now i'm just venting. i do think that the issues could on some level be related to some of the crap that was done to me in the past.

Apologies for being so long-winded. lately i've been venting a lot, but being in pain will do that.

i think i also just find that talking to people helps; as schizo as i may sound in certain forum posts, i honestly don't end up with hallucinations and delusions and stuff by allowing myself to openly vent online and have people challenge me in areas where i may be falling victim to incorrect thinking, instead of just isolating myself and letting that stuff build up in my subconscious. kind of like how a really pissed off person might choose to play a lot of violent video games to blow off steam, rather than allowing it to fester and manifest into real-world violence.

nah i'm not paranoid, i'm just cranky. i think i'll leave the computer and go do something else. i sent you a PM.

Nobody would.

honestly, i'm not in the mood to talk about my experiences in that area right now. suffice it to say it was traumatic.

i haven't actually read this book, but i did scan thru the contents and skim enough of it to where i feel like she did a fairly good job of explaining the types of experiments these shadowy types are doing. i honestly didn't feel like reading it verbatim because it started triggering memories i'd rather forget:

http://in2worlds.net/abductions2

i will say that i have met two other women who have had almost identical experiences to what i had in similar circumstances. not including whatever experiences the author of that book must have had to get to the point of writing such a book.

well i do think that belief literally creates reality at an atomic level to some extent, the "observer" effect, like from quantum physics (if you've ever read about the "double slit" experiment).

but yeah i thought that bed bugs were like, monsters under the bed, you know, just some stuff kids were scared of that parents told them didn't really exist, or something.

i didn't honestly believe they were real until i saw some youtube video about it like 4 or 5 years ago.

Apparently you missed the entire point I was making. I never suggested being dismissive about getting rid of them.

perhaps i'm overreacting from my experience with the taxi driver, which really pissed me off. but try reading a few things online about bedbugs and tell me that people aren't blowing it out of proportion when the forums are full of "burn all your furniture and move" mentality.

really? i was under the impression that the whole "bugs under skin/things crawling on me" was one of the most common hallucinations/delusions out there. the bedbug thing does seem localized to certain areas and i'd say that most people aren't even aware they exist, just once you find one biting you in the middle of the night a few google searches and suddenly the FUD starts making it seem like some huge deal. i never thought much about it until the taxi driver incident though, because i figure that FUD is common on the net, hell reading this subreddit one can easily drum up plenty of examples of FUD.

"fear, uncertainty, doubt"...thought it was a fairly common acronym in conspiracy circles, but then i rarely spend time reading about conspiracies since i find them too depressing.

lmao, if this post is worthy of a holy shit, you'd probably be completely mindfucked if i actually let loose. i was just irritated about that taxi driver screwing up my schedule for the day and it set me off. ;)

you're right. what the bleep do i know?

http://www.longecity.org/forum/topic/66118-is-there-evidence-for-christianity/page__st__240#entry633390

No conspiracy here.

really? so why is it then that people are being told to destroy their furniture? or spend thousands of dollars?