A shill has a typo during a discussion of the new Rockefeller cybersecurity bill on 4chans /pol/.

165  2013-12-11 by [deleted]

Thought you guys here on /r/conspiracy might appreciate this little typo this morning by a shill on /pol/. They were discussing the new cybersecurity bill that Rockefeller introduced. During the boards interpretation of the bill a wild shill appears:

BILLNAME

He forgot to replace "BILLNAME" with the actual title NDAA.

Others start to notice:

BILLNAME2

The bill can be found here:

http://www.scribd.com/doc/186380907/BILLS-113s1353is

Some interesting parts of the bill:

(F) how to determine the origin of a message transmitted over the Internet;

(H) how to address the growing problem of insider threats;

(K) any additional objectives the Director

of the Office of Science and Technology Policy,

in coordination with the head of any relevant

Federal agency and with input from stakeholders, including industry and academia, determines appropriate.

Just a reminder they are real.

original thread

42 comments

31  ProfWhite 2013-12-11

Uh yeah...so the two original comments you screen capped have been deleted. Good job getting a cap. This couldn't be any more obvious.

2  itsfreedomstupid 2013-12-11

That was my first thought. But if this is a template, one could assume that this was used more than once. But I can't seem to find a matches for that string.

That said, we all know that shills are everywhere. But to be effective, shills have to be real, contextual responses by real people. We see them all the time here, but I'm not entirely certain that this instance is anything more than a stunt to draw attention to the real issue. A counter false flag, if you will. However, the upside to this is that it doesn't come with a body count.

EDIT: Scratch that....I thought those were all screen shots of the same comment. Just noticed the times were different. I guess I give them too much credit.

1  [deleted] 2013-12-11

It's also a possibility that there are hundreds, if not thousands of templates available to paid shills. The possibility of a database existing that an agent could access that contains custom responses pertaining to any situation. So theoretically this agent accesses the database and inputs a keyword 'BILL' or 'Proposed Bill' and has at his disposal many available predefined quotes at his disposal. His job is a copy/paste and simple edit, what we see is a missed edit, a worker's mistake.

0  mods_are_facists 2013-12-11

Or op is a troll on 4chan which seems more likely

26  [deleted] 2013-12-11

Anyone got a link to that other thread from like a year ago? Some guy got a shillbot to say the exact same paragraph that another shillbot said to him, so it was 2 different users who submitted an identical paragraph on separate occasions.

20  [deleted] 2013-12-11

Anons are dumping agency formatting fuck ups here

a funny one

I'll idle some threads see if it pops up

14  [deleted] 2013-12-11

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14  ShellOilNigeria 2013-12-11

The method they use is called "sliding", they try to change the thread quality and spam irrelevant shit.

This is exactly what happens in almost every single seriously important /r/news , /r/politics , and /r/worldnews post. It happens daily.

15  ndsnt0 2013-12-11

yup, they are among us & have been for a decade at least. I remember when digg sold out to microsoft, all of a sudden you couldn't mention Israel without 10 dudes talking you down. Time to switch to a tor-based reddit account. (edit) support bitcoin !!!

5  [deleted] 2013-12-11

Unless bitcoin is a darpa project

2  0eorgeGrwell 2013-12-11

*also

1  joseph177 2013-12-11

Which it clearly is, some ghost owns controlling interest in coins and nobody knows a thing about him/her/it.

1  [deleted] 2013-12-11

Also since the blockchains are public whennthat wallet starts moving btc the markets going to know

15  Sabremesh 2013-12-11

Well, this thread has attracted at least 7 different reddit accounts intent on making exactly the same perverse assertion that this 4chan user is "not a shill"..."it's just a troll".

If someone isn't already paying you lot, they should be.

2  pokemanz43 2013-12-11

You are the reason people think we're all crazy. You're so obsessed with finding something conspiratorial that you won't even accept the possibility that someone might be trolling on 4chan.

1  Sabremesh 2013-12-11

Of course I can accept the possibility, but you have to take each case on its merits.

In this instance, a lot of usual suspects came out of the woodwork in a concerted fashion, without any evidence, in order to contradict the prima facie conclusion that this 4chan user was copying and pasting in a systematic fashion, conducive to a shill.

Now, why won't YOU accept the possibility that this person might have been a shill?

8  actuallyatwork 2013-12-11

Seriously guys? <%USER%> is obviously a dangerous person and probably a libertarian and should be ignored or the terrorists have won.

5  asharp45 2013-12-11

Reddit is compromised, like most US tech cos. The costs will be tremendous, culturally and economically.

3  tripsick 2013-12-11

Even if its a troll to rile up some 4chan users... its what needs to be done in general.. What ever makes people pay attention and actually read the "BillNAME" what ever it may be....

3  Bacore 2013-12-11

It could have been one of those Freudian panties.... maybe he meant to expose them. Freudian slip, I'm sorry,I was thinking of something else.

2  joe123456 2013-12-11

I think that it's relevent to mention that the sidebar link to The Gentleperson's Guide To Forum Spies doesn't work but it can be found here http://pastebin.com/wZEizYeY

And here's info on forum sliding http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&amp;address=439x2469241

2  TomSwirly 2013-12-11

Hah!

I think the word shill is thrown around too much here. But, well, this is a very logical use of the word.

Not so sure I understand the use of "jew shilling" in the second screen capture. What, exactly, does this have to do with Jews?

2  happiness_isawarmgun 2013-12-11

Holy fuck, this is the kind of proof we need. Good man, OP

-2  through_a_ways 2013-12-11

First off: I'm neither a shill, nor a skeptic.

That said, there's a very good chance this was a troll. It's fucking 4chan, and it's /pol/ of all places.

Furthermore, why would someone have a template of a comment like that anyway? Shilling wouldn't use templates, it'd be way to easy to spot.

0  0_0_7 2013-12-11

The shills are everywhere! Look, one above this comment too!

-4  horse_doctor 2013-12-11

Have you considered the possibility that this is just some guy doing this deliberately to mess with people?

9  [deleted] 2013-12-11

It's a possibility for sure, although if you were there when the post was active it was apparent that there was a flood of bot posts sharing the same timestamps and derailers working overtime. It was fascinating.

5  [deleted] 2013-12-11

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1  deathbear 2013-12-11

what was being slid?

-9  archonemis 2013-12-11

The guy saying 'Jew shilling' sorta takes the wind out of the accusation.

Still, it does look like trolling / shilling.

10  DukeLeto2 2013-12-11

Damage control?

4  kgt5003 2013-12-11

That's actually not a bad theory. Coulda realized the mistake made and then when fixing it wanted to make sure that everybody who noticed/said anything would get linked to an anti-Semitic comment.

-9  [deleted] 2013-12-11

Its /pol/ Ive done shit like that just to fuck with people. 4chan remember? Ever hear of trolling? . Why would the government have to spread disinfo on the most ludicrous "political talk" board on the entire internet?

-10  Rusty5hackleford 2013-12-11

Trolls on 4chan? Na, paid government shills.

-11  amldell 2013-12-11

  1. OP makes supposedly incriminating post on 4chan (of all websites).

  2. Posts screenshot on r/conspiracy.

  3. ????

  4. Profit!

Seriously, it's even easier to fake this shit on 4chan than doing the same on reddit through multiple accounts.

6  [deleted] 2013-12-11

It's a self post, so if you mean I made that comment to post reactions here for 'karma profit' you are desperately grabbing. The guy forgot to edit his template response, he noticed it and quickly deleted said comment and quickly posted the edited template. I don't need to fake anything nor do I have multiple accounts. I saw something interesting and screen capped it.

-1  amldell 2013-12-11

f you mean I made that comment to post reactions here for 'karma profit' you are desperately grabbing

How do I know that this isn't exactly what you did?

-17  [deleted] 2013-12-11

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12  [deleted] 2013-12-11

Forget to edit his template? Perhaps...

12  Sabremesh 2013-12-11

Or was it a troll?

Firstly, copying and pasting templates is not the modus operandi of a troll. It's too pro-active and systematic. It can only be a shill.

Secondly, the objective of a troll is to rile you, to get a reaction. The objective of a shill is to pacify you, to make you back off. Shills are paid to make what is bad seem acceptable.

-6  ninoreno 2013-12-11

have you been on /pol/? any reasonable opinion rifles people. That post without BILLNAME would certainly get tards rifiled, and putting it as if its copypasta really gets people rifled, it can easily be a troll.

12  [deleted] 2013-12-11

Forget to edit his template? Perhaps...

12  Sabremesh 2013-12-11

Or was it a troll?

Firstly, copying and pasting templates is not the modus operandi of a troll. It's too pro-active and systematic. It can only be a shill.

Secondly, the objective of a troll is to rile you, to get a reaction. The objective of a shill is to pacify you, to make you back off. Shills are paid to make what is bad seem acceptable.