Nothing is going to happen. If we've learned something about these date predictions, its that nothing ever happens. I've given up on following them. ISON didn't rain acid down on us, and nothings going to happen on the 16th.

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Honestly, id love to see whats left of ISON light up the sky at night.

Honestly, I've been wanting to hear more of this and can't find any real sources to check out on it. Only a couple more days though.

Oh, that's interesting, because as everyone knows, since there was no year zero, the millennium doesn't begin until the year two-thousand and one. Which would make your party, one year late, and thus, quite lame.

Better yet, the Mayans didn't have leap year. As such, the dates postulated in both the 2012 and 2013 theories have already passed.

That would make it 2001, guess what date the Egyptian new year starts?

How does that make sense?

In mathematics, addition and subtraction include "zero" as an integer. "-5 + 5 = 0." This is because modern mathematics has evolved over the past few millenia to acknowledge 0 as existing.

The Julian calendar, which originated with the Romans/Catholic Church, was fabricated in a culture where there was no such thing as zero (oddly enough, Europe didn't really use zero until the time of the Renaissance or so, see addendum).

This wouldn't be a problem, except for the fact that the Julian calendar isn't all positive - it has pseudo-negative numbers because of all the time that existed before the Birth of Christ. With Christ as the origin of our timeline, but with no "Year 0," when was Jesus born? Well, "Year 1," obviously.

But wait. A century is 100 years, right? That means, if Year 1 is our origin, that a century only starts one hundred years after January 1st, 1 AD - January 1st, 101 AD. This is the technical reality of the Julian calendar.

But, because we're a modern culture that knows about 0 and think that a century should go from 0->99 instead of 1->100, we just move the goalposts to meet our paradigm. The 1st Century AD, as a result, technically is only 99 years long (1-99), as is the 1st Century BC.

But, as an interesting side question, why did the Catholic Church not like zero? Well, it goes back to the Greeks, namely Plato, whose dualistic philosophy happened to match up with what the Christians believed and was thus integrated (despite it being flawed in many ways that modern evangelicals are just starting to work out). Because Plato's belief about a "dirty, corrupt physical world" and a "perfect, ideal spiritual world" (Plato's Cave) were analogous to Christian beliefs about heaven, his teachings were held with similar regard to canon scripture.

And Plato hated zero.

The Greeks never really got zero, nor did they comprehend infinity. Their mathematics, viewed with the lens of modern hindsight, was crushingly restrictive due to assumptions they made about how numbers worked - in particular, their lack of abstraction of number theory. Greeks didn't really see numbers as numbers, per se, they just viewed numbers as representations of physical constructs of geometry (whereas we might say that a measurement defines an object's size, the Greeks would say that the object's size defines the measurement). They didn't believe in anything except for the set of Counting Numbers {1, 2, 3, 4 ...}; anything that wasn't a whole number was merely a ratio of two "real" numbers.

Now, as you can imagine, the fact that Greeks only believed in (yes, "believed in," mathematics was akin to religion and several people were executed for "mathematical heresy," namely in regards to zero) counting numbers and ratios, they had a bit of trouble once they stumbled upon more... complex systems. Pythagoras, for example, had trouble with his oh-so-famous theorem because it irreconcilably introduced irrational numbers into his paradigm - a² + b² = c² is proven to be true, but what does that mean when c² = 5? The square root of 5 can't be written as a ratio, that means it can't possibly exist! But the theorem worked, and it was useful, so the Greeks "ignored" the fact that it conflicted with their mathematical religions.

Then come along some traders from India who, after selling off their goods, mark their inventories as 0. "What's this?" a few curious Greeks ask. "It's a number that represents nothing - we have no turnips, so we have zero. We sorta nicked it off of the Babylonians a while back." Now, the mathematicians get all pissy at this and call it heresy, but the traders and businessmen of the ancient world being adopting a sort of pseudo-zero because, hey, they're not crazy religious nuts.

But now bring in the Catholic Church and the Dark Ages - that time in history in which only the religious caste were educated, because the nobility was busy plotting for power and the peasants were busy being oppressed (help, help!). Zero lays low for a while, mainly staying as a sort of placeholder value for "I have no turnips," because anyone who investigates the concept of zero is branded a heretic by the church - they're challenging Plato, that great philosopher of that paradise that existed before Europe became a hellhole and whose interpretation of reality forms the backbone for our epistemology!

And so the Catholic intelligentsia didn't learn about zero until the wars of religion caused a breakup of doctrinal hegemony, at which point we see guys like Isaac Newton and Lebinitz looking at old Milanese trading records and thinking "Hey, this number is pretty weird!" And going on to derive Calculus from it. Yes, they derived Calculus from zero - or at least they developed it while attempting to understand zero (in fact it's Lebinitz's realization of the link between zero and infinity that give his notation precedence in modern mathematics, because Newton was a pussy who didn't challenge the status quo and just called integration steps "so small they're practically zero," which is cheating).

tl;dr: Plato hated zero because the Greeks were math zealots and didn't believe in it, Catholics liked Plato because Dualism matched their interpretation of the afterlife, ergo Catholics hate Plato and the knowledge of zero is repressed for 1,500 years and our calendar is FUCKED TO HELL BECAUSE OF IT.

(Most of this information comes from various historical/theological/mathematical studies but is very well summarized in "Zero: The Biography of a Dangerous Idea," which details the history and the implications of zero/infinity. Great read if you're looking for a book)

I dont know a lot about math but man this is all reeeaaaally interesting. Can you talk a little more about how newton and that lebinitz guy derived calculus from zero, please? Thanks!!

Essentially, zero came into play when mathematicians were trying to figure out derivatives. The slope of a function is important for a lot of reasons in mathematics, and has a lot of applications in pretty much any science that uses math - physics, economics, anything. The problem is, getting the slope of a line is nigh impossible to do, since a curve is, well, curved.

You can get the average slope (or "rate of change") by taking the slope of a line between two points on the curve, but this only gives you an approximation that is either under or overvaluing the slope at point x.

You can narrow down the margin of error by taking the slope between two points really close to x, but you couldn't take the slope of "x" because you'd have to divide by zero, since the slope of a line is defined as

[f(x+n)-f(x)]/[(x+n)-(x)]
or, simplified
[f(x+n)-(f)x/]/n

Now, mathematicians already knew, at this point, that zero existed and tended to fuck with their beautiful formulas by being a freak of numerology, and likewise knew that you couldn't find the slope of a curve at a single point because dividing by zero would mess up your calculations.

Newton and Leibniz, almost simultaneously in two different countries, figured out a solution - the key is precisely to divide by zero, but do it in such a way as to not divide by zero.

Now, Newton was stuck inside the box and simply expounded on the current theory of the time, merely giving it notation and justification. Essentially, he said that "as n gets really, really small, it's essentially zero." In other words, once you made n small enough, the function was no longer an approximation. As I said, Newton was a pussy who didn't challenge the social order on this one.

Leibniz, though, realized that you couldn't just settle for "close enough," you needed zero - or something so infinitely small that it was indistinguishable from zero. In this, he realized that infinity was the key to unlocking zero - the two polar opposites were linked intrinsically. Leibniz's notation, which provides the basis for limit theory, holds that as n approaches zero to be infinitely small, you get an approximation that is literally so infinitely small that it is equal to what you'd get if you had divided by zero.

Essentially, Newton said "n = something reeaaaalllly small." Leibniz said "x - x + 1 * 10^-inf." He defined what "small enough to not matter" was as being infinitely small, and doing so made his version of calculus notation logically sound. That's why, to this day, mathematicians use Leibniz notation for limit calculations and derivative proofs - because his works.

"Delta y" or "dy?" That's Leibniz - the little triangle, delta, was his symbol for the slope formula above - where the numerator was notated as "The Change in Y - Delta Y" and the denominator is notated is "The Change in X - Delta X."

Now, the reason that Newton is credited as the inventory of Calculus is... well, he won the PR contest. Both Leibniz and Newton independently published their systems of calculus, but the timing is weird. Newton wrote his first, but didn't publish until 20 years after Leibniz had published his work. Despite this, he and his cronies managed to wage an offensive PR war ("Plagiarism!"). Furthermore, Voltaire (yes, the philosopher) did considerable damage to Leibniz's reputation with Candide, which was a critique of the Leibniz's fairly optimistic metaphysical model ("We live in the best of all possible universes"). Leibniz died discredited, Newton was buried with a state funeral.

And yet, for all the glory Newton won with his PR war, nobody gives a shit about his broken-ass calculus system: everyone uses Leibniz, the system that works. History vindicates the loser.

I am such an idiot. I had this whole reply written and I accidentally deleted it like a moron as I was about to hit send. So now I'm just gonna say thank you so much for replying to me. I feel smarter after reading your posts, seriously. I never thought learning about the number zero could be so damn interesting. I do feel terrible for Leibniz, poor guy was never properly acknowledged for his work before dying. Also, fuck Newton!

To be fair, Newtons other accomplishments are 100% legit, and both he and Leibniz were egged into fighting by their groupies.

Also interesting thing about zero - y'know how medieval art appears flat and 2D until the time of the Renaissance? Guess why - yep. Zero. The concept of a 3 dimensional picture with objects being slanted towards a central, infinitely distant point on the horizon only appeared because zero and infinity started making a comeback.

As I said, the book "Zero: the biography of a dangerous number" details this more completely and, for the material it's covering, is surprisingly easy to read.

Please read this thread. I highly generalized it.

http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message2091882/pg1

It should seriously have you convinced, the math is sound. This isnt the only dude, there was a lady researcher who came to the same conclusion, and also http://www.in5d.com/was-callemans-october-28-2011-mayan-calendar-end-date-a-failed-prediction.html

The oct 2011 date that was also hyped is along the same lines, namely a full completion of the inner tzolkein. But seriously, read the glp thread.

I don't really believe it will happen, but that really is a really interesting set of coincidences.

What are you going to do on the 16th when nothing happens?

Come up with a reason why next year is significant, if history is any indication.

So what exactly is your point? If I believe that all these coincidences coincide what does that mean?

That's the big question. I believe its not the end of the world but the beginning of the next era.

Also the fake sign language interpreter said he saw angels coming into the stadium.

Downvoted for retarded shibe title.

yeah if you want to be taken serious then don't shibe. Much ineptness.

I just don't want to be a doom-mongering THE SKY IS FALLING, so I playfully laid out the weirdness.

you did real well here, ;) <3

^{so leet} much entertain

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The girl in the coffin is holding a blue kachina doll

All the kids look frightened as fuck. This is IN the airport?

Genuinely pretty interesting, the DNA always interested me. I guess we will see what happens Monday.

What's this about DNA?

DIA sorry.

How creepy is that freemason stone?

"The most worshipful grand lodge" - who are they worshipping?

"New World Airport Commission" - hmmmmmm...

I'll also go out on a slightly more extreme limb and point out that in "March 19, 1994", the numbers 1+9+1+9+9+4=???

36?

33 bro.

Whoah.

Then what is 1+9+4? I left out a few number just for fun this time too!

This is the strangest.

There is no New World Airport Commission.

Those aren't just works of random art, they are purposeful, just like everything else they do.

Yep. Everything about that airport is sketchy as fuck.

today is the 16th...where is the end of the world? ;P

How's the end going, buddy?

Why is this even on my frontpage...

No, man, you're doing it wrong! You're supposed to pick dates at least a year in the future for your nonsensical predictions, so that you have time to capitalize on them. Now everyone is going to realize you're full of shit in just three days, that's not enough time for most morons to even hear about this, let alone to start prepping and make fools of themselves.

All of the planets are in alignments as well. I think with Scorpio or Sagittarius. Check out dahboo7 on YouTube or nickolateslasghost. They have more info. Crazy stuff!! Mere coincidence....no such thing.

All of the planets are in alignments as well.

Yep like they do once a year every year

They are in a certain alignment as depicted by Nostradamus and others.

Nope that's just plain bullshit. Wouldn't be that big of a deal if he did we knew enough about the solar system then to predict an alignment like this. Look up how often this happens and take what dabooo7 sys with a grain of salt.

I know it happens quite often, but all of these events together is something peculiar. Also, check out the meaning of certain constellations involving these planets and their annunaki meanings, as well as adding in biblical prophetic events. "It's not what you believe that matters, it's what they believe."

Can you link me something so that I can read the annunaki prophecies behind these planets/constellations

I can't find a good source of it at the moment, but ill try and find one. For now, google annunaki in the bible and then planet names pertaining to Sumerian gods. Remember when researching this, the annunaki are NOT God and are simply followers of satan trying to corrupt and confuse the true story of the Bible. May the downvotes begin.

the oldest known source would be the Sumerian epic of Gilgamesh.

LOL mayans.

Look at all the downvotes. Sum1 struck a nerve.

downvoted by the people who have finally learned that date predictions are horseshit

Horseshit has many uses. Look beyond the lies and see the lies that lie behind them, then learn from that.

Metanote: Since global disasters occur with little warning, shouldn't all thanatophobic people cherish life as if it were always just around the corner?

Or those predictions were false information in order to make this one untrusted.

yes because these doomsday date predictions have been very accurate

every single time its wrong, and then a year later people make up some convoluted reason that the last prediction was based upon bad information, but THIS years info is rock solid

Well, hope for the best and plan for the worst.

but its nonsensical to plan for an event based upon such absurd evidence

It's only absurd depending on your beliefs and understandings.

Exactly the point of his comment. It's the story of boy cried wolf. We've heard so many warnings for false dates that who knows which is right anymore. Therefore, we each must do our own research into these things and make our own assessments, then prepare for the worst and hope for the best. It's a terrible cycle we've been thrust into. Just know that one if these days somebody is going to be right and nobody will listen.

Just know that one if these days somebody is going to be right and nobody will listen.

Well, yeah, given that pretty much every other day someone is predicting doom, eventually one of them will pick a day when some shit goes down.

Won't mean anything though.

Or people disagree with the post? That's generally what downvotes mean...

I wouldn't say "disagree." "Dislike" seems more appropriate.

"Struck a nerve" seems undebatable especially if people find it disagreeable. Predictions almost always bring dissenters forth.

The significance of OP's presentation also seems undebatable. Perhaps ETs won't land on Monday but those Masons certainly enjoy conspiring. Even if they only plan to build airports, I can have my qualms. Pollution from airplanes fouls my blue skies. I wish they'd busy themselves with trains once again. Choo choo fatherfucker.

Bonus pic of our dear leader at this mural

I loved your post, but this particular picture is pretty fake looking man. We will see, either way, that mural is one of the most disturbing things ive ever seen, always has been

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shopped, the pic of ODL is older than the airport and appears to have been taken outside.

Ah, sorry guys.

I know it happens quite often, but all of these events together is something peculiar. Also, check out the meaning of certain constellations involving these planets and their annunaki meanings, as well as adding in biblical prophetic events. "It's not what you believe that matters, it's what they believe."

the oldest known source would be the Sumerian epic of Gilgamesh.

36?

This is the strangest.

There is no New World Airport Commission.

Those aren't just works of random art, they are purposeful, just like everything else they do.

What's this about DNA?