My question is: Was this school shooter on SSRIs too?

Forgive me for being dumb, but is that a bad thing?

Personally, I think so. SSRIs are prescribed to "correct" chemical imbalances in the brain. However, no tests are done on patients to determine if a chemical imbalance actually exists. As a result, SSRIs are prescribed in a haphazard way, e.g. "let's try this one" or "let's increase/decrease the dosage". Medication by trial and error. While those drugs definitely do help some people, I suspect they also are the cause of major problems in others.

Asking legitimate questions is never dumb.

Oh, well TIL. Thanks.

You're welcome.

Mr. Greenbaum is a fool!

What the push for gun control is really all about is the fear on the part of liberal socialists that white people will be able to defend themselves against government tyranny. That's what it's all about -- to get the guns away from white Christians. Crime doesn't really enter into the equation, except as a pretext.

Having a hard time deciding whether this is a troll account or not.

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This proves one thing: Intensive psyop campaigns, repeated false flag ops, combined with an endless stream of propaganda & misinformation is indeed effective at controlling the masses, turning them into mindless drones who repeat the propaganda they've been spoon-fed by their governments and state-run media, to the extent that they not only willingly give up their rights, but demonize those who seek to protect them.

Ignorance will be the death of all of us.

less killing more wounding. so the answer is yes.

less fast killing more wounding to death. so the answer is yes no.

There ya go.

D you honestly believe that I'm more likely to miss your vitals from 1 foot with my knife vs any amount more than that with a gun? Your logic is flawed. Imagine open carry samurai sword.

Well his logic is also kinda proven because there are countries with gun bans and they don't have anywhere near the amount of murders that we have. I'm not at all for gun bans but that's just a fact.

I don't even know where to start. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_politics http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_intentional_homicide_rate this is incorrect. As you can see through actual statistics versus you knowing nothing. Murders do not correlate with how many guns there are in a country. If anything murder rates correlate directly with poverty lines and the lack of ability to gain necessities of life. Prove me wrong, I dare you.

I know that no matter what I show you, you won't connect any murders to guns but... http://www.citizensreportuk.org/reports/murders-fatal-violence-uk.html

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2013/09/16/u-s-murder-rate-higher-than-nearly-all-other-developed-countries-fbi-data/

Now, we aren't the only country with poverty but you at least have to admit that having a gun handy sure does make killing somebody a hell of a lot easier. I'm a member of the NRA but I'm starting to think that if they fund a study tomorrow that correlates murder to the amount of coffee you drink in the morning you'd sooner buy into that idea than admit that having a country full of guns is going to lead to more killing. It's demonstrated annually but people who love their guns (I really enjoy being a gun owner) seem to be afraid to admit it.

Well seeing as how there were under 500,000 gun death incidents in the United States in 2011 (2012 and on not listed) and 300 million plus guns in the United States there is a low correlation of guns used for killing. I only draw this conclusion based on the word "incidents" which means purposeful vs accidental deaths. You being in the NRA has no addition to your invalid argument. Murder correlation to coffee?? The argument is guns vs deaths correlation, coffee is a stimulant, so its a completely different argument. United States does have a poverty line, yes. The raw story link you provided doesn't say anything in relation of murders vs gun ownership, just that 1/3 and 1/2 (roughly) of Americans own registered firearms. Murder rates with firearms have dropped 50% in the past 13 years, whole ATF estimates that 10 million guns are added to the market every year (meaning bought). So your correlation is not accurate, at all. http://www.gunpolicy.org/firearms/region/united-states http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_violence_in_the_United_States

The NRA thing was only mentioned to point out that I'm not trying to support a gun ban. I just see that there is, in fact, a correlation between the amount of guns we have in this country and the amount of murder we have in this country. Of course not every murder is done by way of gun but access to guns makes it easy. At this point I genuinely think we are in too deep so we couldn't possibly take guns away because too many people who would want to use them for illegal purposes already have them so people who want to use them for protection need them. I think all responsible people should be armed because of this.

On a side note as far as the 500,000 gun deaths and 300 million guns figures.. A lot of people own multiple guns (as I'm sure you are aware) so unless people are using 10 guns at a time to shoot themselves or somebody else that correlation there is going to automatically be skewed.

I need to correct myself. http://projects.wsj.com/murderdata/?mg=inert-wsj&standalone=1#view=all&y=2010 there were 14,000 murders in the United States in 2010. Making my estimates on murder rate vs gun ownership vastly incorrect. It's FAR lower than I estimated. http://smartgunlaws.org/gun-deaths-and-injuries-statistics/ this also shows suicides etc.

That is still a pretty high number per capita compared to the UK. It translates to 30 times more gun murders. The UK does have a higher violent crime rate, however, which could be attributed to criminals knowing that the person they are going to attack isn't going to be armed. I dunno if it ends up being a matter of what we as Americans value more compared to what people of the UK value. It seems that people over there are willing to take a beating and lose their wallet and in America we would rather defend our property to the death. I'm not saying either side is wrong but our way just results in more people dying.

I'm sure you've seen the actual facts about this. You're being deliberately misleading. I don't understand why you people just keep regurgitating the same garbage over and over and deliberately word your arguments so that they are misleading.

Does anyone in here honestly believe this person was never exposed to the facts, ever? He/she, just like most other people on the anti-gun side, simply wait a few weeks and regurgitate the same old misleading garbage knowingly. There is no other explanation for this.

What would be the point in me dissecting your post and showing you how it's misleading? You're just going to use the same misleading arguments in a few weeks. It's just a waste of time, really.

I'm not being deliberately misleading. I'm being honest about what I think based on what I've read. I'm a member of the NRA since I was 18. My grandfather and father are both lifelong members. I like being a gun owner but I'm not above admitting that guns make killing pretty easy. I'm not opposed to background checks being mandatory. People who are so obsessed with this idea that the government is going to come and take their guns away need to relax. If you want to investigate a conspiracy look into how many god damn phone calls I get from the NRA asking for money to be donated to them so they can fight Obama trying to take our guns away. Every time there is a mass shooting they ramp up their fund raising and then they make millions, gun sales skyrocket, and nobody takes away anybody's guns. Who are the real suckers?

There are plenty of countries that willingly gave up their guns emotionally after a mass shooting. The US has a few ways of fighting that, which means they have to slowly ban them. Don't ignore the gun control agenda after a shooting. They always capitalize on that shit. Let me guess: you simply didn't know about that? No, you're being deliberately misleading.

Also banning guns won't make them go away. Let me guess: you simply didn't know about that? You said this:

there are countries with gun bans and they don't have anywhere near the amount of murders that we have

Hmm, let me guess. You had no idea that the homicide rates were already really low in other countries before gun bans? No, you already knew that. You just wanted to come in here and stir the shit, deliberately.

I'm not at all for a gun ban. As I said to someone earlier I think our country is in too deep at this point. We have 300 million guns in circulation and too many people who want to use these guns illegally already have their hands on some so responsible citizens need to be armed to protect themselves and their families/property. Don't mistake my understanding of what I see as a correlation between lax gun laws and high gun crime as a call for gun bans. We are about 30 years passed the point of even trying to do anything.

Well his logic is also kinda proven because there are countries with gun bans and they don't have anywhere near the amount of murders that we have. I'm not at all for gun bans but that's just a fact.

What the fuck man? What is the point of coming here, writing that, submitting it, and then ignoring somebody calling you out on it? Are you going to do that again in a few weeks?

Who did I ignore? Go ahead and review my fuckin comment history and see how often I say this shit. Why the fuck do the "conspiracies" need to also exist within the commenting going on in this sub. People are getting way to paranoid about everything. A dissenting opinion isn't automatic evidence of "shilling" or "trolling."

I never called you a shill. I'm saying the chances of you being unaware that your argument is extremely easy to dismantle and entirely inaccurate and misleading is extremely low. If you are older than 15 years old, there is no excuse for spouting idiotic arguments like you're doing. You know you're being misleading. Now why are you being misleading? I don't know. Why don't you tell us?

No, you are either trolling and you're in too deep so you're backing off your garbage, or you're a "shill" whatever the fuck that is, and you're backing off because you look like a jackass and want to continue with your same account,

Why the fuck is that when somebody has an opposing opinion about something they are automatically either trolling or a shill? Why can't it be that they just don't agree with whatever you think?

Simple - if they just write off what you say as "trolling" or "shilling" then they don't actually have to think about it...

Sure, there are any number of ways you can kill a person without a gun. But would columbine, sandy hook or virginia tech have happened if the assailants didn't have such easy access to guns and assault weapons? It's a lot harder to carry out a massacre with a samurai sword..

As an Australian where we have very strict gun control, I find it very difficult to comprehend the ongoing American justification of the right to own handguns and assault weapons, when it seems like there is another tragic mass shooting every week or two.

In Australia we haven't and a single mass shooting since we cracked down on gun ownership two decades ago.

Bring on the downvotes

You do realize Australia has the population of a large U.S. state, right? Not saying you're wrong, just that it'd be a little more accurate to compare Australia with, say, Florida. It's easier to pass laws like this with a smaller population.

Aaaaand that makes gun control ineffective how?

Aaaaand I didn't say it did. Getting 20 million Australians on board with a gun control law is MUCH easier than 300 million Americans who literally have a civil right to own them. I was just pointing out that it's more like getting a state law passed here.

Yes, guns can fire several bullets killing multiple people. A knife can be fatal but it's not even close to the same.

Ever hear of a drive by knifing? Doesn't happen.

The only way I'd give up my guns is if they got rid of all the blacks in America. The black male population in America makes of 6% of the population but is accountable for 54% of crime in America. Not to mention that blacks kill around 10 people a day. America doesn't have a fun problem, it has a black problem.

This is true. Take away the crime done by blacks and Hispanics, particularly illegal Hispanics, and get rid of the black, Hispanic, and Asian gang violence, and violent crime in America would drop to near zero. Whites are not the problem.

Chaim, shouldn't you be at your synagogue right now? America doesn't have a gun problem, it has a black person problem.

Aaaaand that makes gun control ineffective how?