Do you want to know why there is so much anti-semitism here?

136  2013-12-24 by [deleted]

Do you want to know why there is too much anti-semitism here?

http://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/1ro8os/this_happened/cdpaums

http://np.reddit.com/r/conspiro/comments/1gm91c/has_anyone_ever_noticed_that_jew_boys_have_their/

http://i.imgur.com/9Iz12h2.png

http://np.reddit.com/user/InterrogatoryBunny

On the last link, click history, see bottom post. Click to imgur link and see link flair. He took the screenshot logged in as Bipolarbear0, then uploaded the screenshot and used it on his alt account to discredit r/conspiracy. The blatant anti-semitism comes from him. There's always crazy anti-semitic rants here using accounts that are very new and/or have little activity at all. The "anti-semitic problem" is actually a Bipolarbear0 problem, and this person is giving solidwhetstone advice about how to run this sub.


Bipolarbear0 97 points (in the thread where solidwhetstone asks them for advice):

There's no doubt that I absolutely despise racism, and if there's anyone out there that hates racism more than me, then it's you -- which is why I was so shocked when I learned that you moderated /r/conspiracy. Ask anywhere you go and you'll get the same answer: Of all the mainstream subreddits, /r/conspiracy is certainly one of the most racist. I'm quite familiar with it, in fact. I used to be a casual browser before I was turned off by the appalling amount of racism in the subreddit, and I'm sure that's true of many others here as well. The most common flavour is almost certainly anti-semitism


Here's one from yesterday. He seems to be doing this pretty often: http://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/1tk4nq/in_which_ubipolarbear0_summons_his_voting_brigade/ce8vpf2?context=3

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Nice work. I've been noticing more and more that there are these rogue posts on /r/conspiracy that mimic the bizarre "fake /r/conspiracy" worldview... projected by the determined folks at /r/conspiratard. How pathetic.

Thank you for being one of the only people in this thread who want to actually talk about this thread.

For anyone reading, see the post histories of every account on here that is talking about Jews. (I'm counting 4 1 month accounts, and 1 10 day old) It's just one guy (probably Bipolarbear0) who is upvoting all of his posts about Jews. He will then probably use another alt account and post a link to this thread in r/conspiratard so that they can all circlejerk about how anti-semitic this sub is. Ridiculous and obvious.

I've also noticed that when you talk to the tard community all they want to bring up is lizard people and that I'm an idiot and racist because I have white in my name etc etc.

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Sooo, the lizard people aren't real? Shit.

Almost sounds like paid shills, weird

Why would anybody waste their time trying to debunk a sub?

There was a guy in /r/curiosityrover recently who claimed to have been shadowbanned for accidentally up voting his own content with a second account.

If they really are all sock puppets then doesn't that violate reddit TOS?

http://www.reddit.com/wiki/useragreement#wiki_don.2019t_mess_with_reddit

redping is definitely one of these conpsiratard internet warriors trolling this sub.

Antisemitism implies hatred of all jews, no matter what. I think there are very few legitimate posters who feel that way.

It also implies hatred of all semites.

which includes arabs...

but not khazars

And there we go, we're into racist conspiracy theories already.

YES! Alright guys, pat yourselves on the back. We finally found one person who posted a vaguely racist statement. Now we can spam all of Reddit with proof that 100 percent of r/conspiracy users are Jew haters.

I was waiting a long time for that one.

That's what the anti-semitists say. And no one else.

Not really, the term was coined in the 19th century as a mark of pride to distinguish people who wanted Jews out of their country....

Oh wait, I'm trying to talk sense about bigotry to a guy whose username is a famous anti-semitic quote by a dead Nazi.

Anti = against

Semite = Mandaeans Akkadians Eblaites Chaldeans Aramaeans Mhallami Ugarites Suteans Amorites Ammonite Edomite Amalekites Hebrews/Israelites Moabites Phoenicians/Carthaginians Sabaeans Shebans Ubarites Maganites Ethio-Semitic Aksumites Arabs Gindibu's Qedarites Lihyanites Thamud people Ghassanids Nabataeans

And I'm talking to the moderator of /r/israel, what the hell is your point?

PS; Julius Streicher was killed for speech crimes and should be considered a martyr for free speech by all that value it.

Sure, and forklifts lift forks. Do yourself a favor, look up the word in a dictionary.

So if im anti zionist, where does that full under?

You are saying, that you don't think that Israel as a country has a right to exist?

Becouse that would be anti zionism. If you actually dislike how the nationalism became excluding instead of inclusive, that would be a different thing. Every country has a nationalism (allthough sometimes inclusive) - else no country would exist, becouse no national identity could be formed and therefor we would have either a global form of regime or anarchy.

*because. Well I feel they are an evil nation. They exist to self fulfill their own proficiency of world destruction. They own the USA, and they start wars with everyone.

But those are policy reasons, not fundamental ones imho and with those arguments you could make a case that germany should not have given the right to exist after the second world war, infact i would argue that it took more lifes and created more warfare - strictly historically speaking.

In other words, would you generalize your statement?

(if you are not trolling that is)

Then you should argue that France and Spain should not be allowed to exist.

I think we could make a case against the existance of most countrys. :D. So... do you favor a global anarchy or a global regime as a substitution? Basically a world without any nations?

Neither, but lets resume this tonight.

Well different time zones i guess :D.

Anyway feel free to explain it later

Bath = a basin to wash in

Room = A section of a house

Bathroom = A place with a toilet

Compound words depend on their etymological meaning more than their literal definition. In the case of "Anti-Semite" the history of the term is that it was coined to mean "to be bigoted against Jews" and has never in history ever meant any thing else.

Just so I have this down on record, you are saying that the guy who published this should be considered a martyr and a hero? Am I reading this right? Let me guess, you also feel that he was not an anti-semite.

Palestinians are Semites. What's it mean when Israel levels a village?

Bathroom = a room containing a bathtub or a shower and usually also a sink and a toilet.

We could untangle words all day, but I'd rather not. My only point was that it is disingenuous to label people antisemite unless they are against all semites, if it is Jews they are against label them something more accurate.

Yes, the man should be considered a martyr to free speech, despite his feelings towards Jews, as he was killed simply for freely speaking.

Where are you from that bathrooms don't have basins to wash in? Every bathroom I've ever been in has had one, its called a sink.

Good job at attacking his character, nothing factual he says is credible now. /s

And these conspiratard trolls insist it's really "racism" and not merely anti-semitism.

I only hate black people in the ghetto, not all black people.

I'm not racist, right?

  1. Hating people based on geography is stupid. Saying: "I hate ghetto people" isn't racist though, provided you would hate them if they were white/asian as well.

  2. All your posts are defending Israel. Do you get paid 5 cents a post?

I don't hate them because of their geography, I hate them because of their culture and ideology. (i.e Zionism for Jews as opposed to non-Zionism.)

isn't racist though, provided you would hate them if they were white/asian as well.

I said BLACK specifically. Can you READ?

10, actually. A mans gotta eat some how.

Holy christ you're quite uppity. Hating "them" because of their culture and ideology is fine. I'm assuming if someone hated zionist jews, they also hated zionist christians and so on. If someone hates ghetto blacks, they probably also hate ghetto whites. If they don't, then they're racist.

Just want to add in my two cents here on this post so you can add this info to any further posts made on this topic.

The same people behind r/Conspiratard are the same people behind the r/worldofpancakes (originally used to also mock Rachel Corrie who was an American protester bulldozed into the ground by the IDF in gaza). They are also behind r/EnoughPaulSpam (an anti Ron Paul subreddit) and were extremely active during the last election. A lot of people on /r/ronpaul got tired of their trolling which the moderator permitted and set-up a rival Ron Paul subreddit called /r/paul. It was brand new at the time and here's where the story begins.

Somone on r/enoughpaulspam made this post on r/enoughpaulspam. It was tilted:
"Top post in /r/paul made by racist anti-semitic Dusty impersonator. I don't know if this is sad or hilarious"

Here's is the screenshot of the top posts on r/paul at the time which this post linked to:
http://i.imgur.com/FSQsf.png

The EPS member was accusing r/paul subscribers of upvoting a post by an anti-semite which isn't actually immediately apparent unless you were familiar with the user's history. There are not many subsribers to r/paul so the post just needed 6 upvotes to become the top post.

But if you examine the screenshot the EPS member took, you will notice that they have RES installed. Consequently you will notice that they have upvoted this 'anti-semite' they are criticizing 17 times.

So I go into the thread on EPS and call the poster out on having upvoted this same alleged anti-semite they are criticizing 17 times. You know what he tells me? "I always upvote crazy in the Ron Paul subs".

So he goes into Ron Paul subs and purposely upvotes posts by people he accuses of being an anti-semite. Then he accuses the subscribers of those subs of upvoting anti-semites! Doesn't take much of stretch of the imagination to guess who is behind the anti-semite account to begin with.

Then of course my posts are deleted and I am banned from the r/enoughpaulspam. I took a screenshot of the thread before this happened though:
http://i.imgur.com/90H8x.png

And here is an alt source for the image showing his 17 upvotes in case they delete it:
http://i.imgur.com/1s912.png

Here is a thread on /r/NolibsWatch where I have posted about this before:
http://www.reddit.com/r/NolibsWatch/comments/x7fd0/reps_member_criticizes_rpaul_for_having_a_top/
They are a watch group for these people.

Here is the original comment which alerted me to all this:
http://www.reddit.com/r/Paul/comments/x3xyd/a_discussion_about_this_subreddit_its_rules_and/c5jhhvm

Thank you OP and this poster. There has been some fine work. And you know what? The most hilarious part is how obvious it is that the antisimitism card they're pulling is just preemptive protection against the fact that all signs point to them actually BEING Israeli shills.

lol see the underscore after krugmanisapuppet? thats not who they call "dusty" - thats some false flag type shit

As much as people would like to believe it...you cannot paint all Jews with one broad stroke.

I'm Jewish but I criticize Jews when it's warranted, I criticize Christians when it's warranted. I am only after the facts; the truth.

It is troubling to me that Jews (Ashkenazi Jews usually) are behind so many of the world's problems. Even Carl Bernstein, one of the greatest journalists of our time, recognizes this. Still...you cannot lash out at ALL Jews for the sins of a few.

Do Jews run the media, congress and Hollywood? Yes. Do they act in America's best interest? Hardly ever. BUT...these people are about .00000001% of the Jewish population. Most of them are Zionists. Look at Biden; you don't have to be Jewish to be a Zionist.

It's not anti-Semitic to speak the truth (yet) but just remember that MANY of us are NOT on the side of the racist asshole Jews who are causing disharmony in the world. Most of us are just like you...not in some criminal cabal, not screwing over the taxpayer...just going to work and paying our taxes like everyone else.

The "anti-Semitism" card has been played FAR too much...it has lost its original meaning. We have groups like the ADL to thank for that.

Just a reminder...all Jews are NOT Zionists and, in fact, we actively fight against it and the crimes and atrocities of Israel. We are no "better" or more "chosen" than anyone else.

Most of them are Zionists. Look at Biden; you don't have to be Jewish to be a Zionist.

Q: How many of those non-Jewish Zionists actually contradict the efforts, propaganda, and political pressure placed upon by Zionist-Jews?

A: None

100% correct. Thank you for proving my point.

And what's a Zionist? Seriously

A supporter of Jewish Statehood. Really nothing wrong with it, unless a person is subverting his host nation in order to help the state of Israel. Which is quite common.

so I thought ... the way they word gets thrown around is absurd!

An absurd example please?

As in people calling other people 'zionist's' when IMO it has nothing to do with the matters at hand, e.g. banking or finance or whatever

WTF has being a 'zionist' got to do with it? People think it's like some special club, but it's far from it and the term is almost an anachronism these daze, considering there already is a "State of Israel"

I dunno, I think that's kinda absurd

Let's see. I think Dominique Strauss-Kahn is the perfect example...

  • Jewish Serial Rapist
  • French Presidential Candidate
  • IMF Bank Chief
  • Begins everyday with "What can I do to help Israel today"

Former IMF chief recently charged with rape says Israel is first thing on his mind every morning.

http://www.haaretz.com/jewish-world/dsk-has-israel-in-his-heart-1.371773


Dominique Strauss-Kahn

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dominique_Strauss-Kahn

I was always under the assumption when conspiracy talk of the "Jews" it was always about "those" Jews not all Jews. I guess some people don't know the difference.

Well, I mean...Hitler. He took stereotypes associated with Elite, Banking-class, "Bad-guy" type jews and used them to demonize then try to exterminate the entire race. Just saying, I could see being paranoid in that situation.

And Hitler actually agreed with the Zionists in classifying Jews as a race. Both Zionists and Hitler's Germany had laws based on racial classifications. Hitler also worked with Zionist organizations to remove Jews to Palestine.

Also, I'll point out that Americans also suspected a whole race/people of a certain origin as being "enemy aliens"--Japanese Americans.

So while I certaintly don't agree with the anti-semitic (or "racist") laws Germany enacted, the Americans enacted similar laws and actually there was less evidence of Japanese hostility to Americans then there was Jewish hostility to Germany.

xanaxinator is totally correct that most Jews in Germany didn't support Zionists so it was unfair to target them but many Zionist organizations, including many German Jews, were hostile to Germany. Zionist organization declared "war" on Germany and tried to turn German Jews against the government. There was nothing equivalent that Japanese Americans did.

Do Jews run the media, congress and Hollywood?

NO.

Pat Robertson isn't a jew, for example.
The Southern Christian segment isn't jewish. Wall Street isn't all jewish. There is no "jewish" conspiracy. There is a SOCIOPATH Conspiracy.

I agree with you partially here...however, the biggest Wall Street companies and banks are indeed Askkenazi Jew-run.

The Southern Christians actually SUPPORT the Jews' plans on world domination because it fulfills biblical prophecy. This shows truly how STUPID these people are.

I am a Sephardic Jew and I see NONE of "my" people in any positions of power. If you know of any please let me know.

Dude, we've been through this. You're of Ashkenaz lineage, not Sephardic. Just because your Czech grandfather claimed to have Egyptian ancestors, does not make you an Edut Mizrach.

The Koch brothers are NOT jewish, and they dump more money into American Politics then any other entity.

They do more to Destroy Middle Class American Economics then any other force.

Don't be blinded by your racism.

Is it not obvious that the anti-semitic bullshit has been the conspiratard types from the get-go?

It has been & always will be their calling card. To undermine a sub, simply pollute it with relentless "the jews" spam.

Their sub is less than an 1/8 of the size of r/conspiracy, try as they might, they can't suppress the hunger for truth.

You aren't saying antizionism is racist, are you, Wolf?

Its the only defense these crominal zionists have left. And thanks to their pathetic overuse of the label (see: Helen Thomas), it's now effectively meaningless. When someone is labaled an antisemite, look to the truths they are revealing. It is almost never racist in any fashion. In some groups, it's actually an honor to be labeled as such by the cowards.

Zionist Judaism is not a race

Come on. If you're going to be talking about Jews, at least use an account that is older than a month. And to /u/orrery, you should post more than once every 3 days. You can't blame anyone for thinking you guys are just more of bipolarbear0's alts. And can we please actually talk about this thread? What a coincidence that the comments section turns into bullshit when I'm clearly demonstrating the reason for anti-semitic rants.

Sometimes people who talk about Jews are shadowbanned before a month... so asking for an older account isn't quite reasonable.

This is coming from a 15 day old account. Let me guess, the next guy to respond to me will be 7 days old?

If they ban me again, it could happen.

If I was a mod, I would also ban all of Bipolarbear0's alt accounts.

So, any account you think might be his with absolutely no evidence?

If it's a brand new account that posts stuff about Jews as a race in a negative light, yes. You don't even have to prove it's Bipolarbear because the sidebar prohibits racism. Not this guy specifically, but something like that would cause me to keep an eye on that account until I was satisfied this was a real person.

1 post every 3 days? Well that's still way more than this site deserves. You people need to get real lives and stop wasting every waking moment on reddit. I have seen plenty of redditors with hundreds of thousands of comment Khama who comment non-stop. People like that are pathetic, all their talking and they never say anything.

It's an ideology.

This is the thing. They always start with the question "Why is there so much antisemitism?" But, in fact, there isn't so much. So, they have to manufacture it.

What about it? I did not say there was none.

I think that the point I was going for is that there is quite a bit of antisemitism here and that the mods are not addressing it. Just search the words "conspiracy" and "antisemitism" and look at how many results you get. That isn't the case with most subs.

Who cares?

Is hating a Jewish agenda racist? Would hating a Catholic agenda also be racist?

What "Jewish" agenda. - Give us point by point your positions, and we will probably agree. Go full retard on all jews, and you're a nut.

Being Jewish is not a religion, it is an ethnicity.

Hitler didn't care if a certain Jew was a Catholic.

Who the fuck is talking about Hitler? Just you.

I don't think anyone here is truly anti-semite. I think it is mostly that people associate the ills of the world with greedy people. More specifically greedy bankers, and while one may be inclined to disagree, people of Jewish decent do have a tendency toward banking and finance. Just a thought. I agree that correlation is not causation but it certainly attracts attention.

Simply a shallow attempt to discredit. It doesn't work. I've yet to see any racist behavior from someone labeled antisemitic.

the phrase "Anti Semite" is thrown around very haphazardly and seems to be misinterpreted by MOST people. it does not just apply to Jews or Israelis. it applies to anyone from the east asian region including lebanese, palestinians and syrians.

I think a lot of people confuse Jewish faith and the Zionist movement. The Zionist movement's ideals are a lot of where conspiracies are made of and I think people confuse the two. Did I word this confusingly?

But I attribute it to a lot of what you said as well.

Why is r/conspiracy such a threat to these guys that they feel the need to spread BS like this?

They seem to be powerless in this specific sub, but JIDF openly does this shit in other subs. /r/poltics and /r/worldnews are infested.

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread659820/pg1

Powerless? There's usually around 5-600 people here, and around 200-250 people there. If they link to a thread, many of them will swarm to that specific thread and brigade it. The 5-600 members here are spread out in 50 or so threads. So they actually have more members participating in certain threads, which perfectly explains why we sometimes get reasonable posts (or benign posts) that get 50 downvotes.

JIDF/Hasbara/Conspiritard false-flaggers.

Our qualms are with Zionism and Jewish-cronyism (ethnocentric favoritism), NOT the Jewish "race" or Jewish religion.

Solid work!

Thanks. I have two trophies to go with this. Two of Bipolarbear0's shill accounts pmed me!

http://imgur.com/wy2uY3Y

http://imgur.com/0rZy6R2

Edit:

http://imgur.com/bNefp8D

Edit 2: 11 month old account http://imgur.com/El4An2M

what exactly is this firm..??

Lol you are getting trolled hard, makes me want to pretend to be an alt just to feed your paranoia. Wake up!

Also that looks a little photoshopped. I mean that DahvieVanity is clearly either joking or you wrote it yourself. It sounds so much like what you think Bear does and completely the opposite of what he actually talks like if you read his posts.

You need to grow up and stop lying to incite witch hunts, like by pretending the information in your top post is new or that these PMs either a) really happened or b) were from bear's "alts".

I'm going with CowgoesMooz. Are you Mooz? I know you are not the kind of person to post much on your own account here. But you also have delusions and think everybody you are speaking to is bipolarbear, and that is racist for a Jew to ironically troll a known haven of anti-semites by posting anti-semitic material and seeing how many upvotes it gets.

I'm sure you've convinced yourself but there will be regulars and new accounts saying bad things about Jews in /r/conspiracy and a very very small of them would be BipolarBear, if any. He has a lot more to do reddit-wise than he did 6 months ago.

Anyway, have a good christmas and ease on the paranoia. Not everything is a false flag by the exact person you dislike.

also, if he does it for a job like you are pretending, why is he stalking you and following your posts on a christmas morning, and why would he TELL you? This is like fiction written by a 14 year old.

edit: and i love how you downvoted a comment that contributed to the discussion with an alternate viewpoint. But it's totally the conspiratard brigade that misuses reddit right? He literally said that people here think Jews run the world, which is at least slightly true. Amos_quito obviously spends all his time wracking in fear over Zionism and says he has been personally targetted by them. So it shows how much you are soapboxing and not discussing for you to insta-downvote him. How come you NLW guys won't respond whenever I mention actual anti-semitic accounts that prove your theory wrong?

What would convince you that it's not photoshopped? Currently both of those messages are still on my account.

You need to address the wonton method of downvoting you seem to do. We have an honor-based system here and you posted clear evidence you violate this.

Are you kidding me? I'm being stalked and a 4 day old account (you) is pissed about a downvote?

OP deleted his account?

It is a form of fascist propaganda. Real dissent to fascist politicies of the american empire is derailed with insertions of anti jew shit in order to try and get people to disregard the legitimate criticism of power.

I get this crap when I try and discuss the functional dynamics of the federal reserve all the time. Jew is routinely used interchangeably with banker in order to obfuscate.

Standard black/brown shirt tactic.

this jew agrees

there isn't, there's truth, which is far far more dangerous to them

You just love to feed them dont you. This is the type of post they set out to cause and are all circlejerking over there now just loving it.

You guys are missing the point. The guy submitted anti-semitic content to prove a point -- Not that anti-semitic content was present on this subreddit, but that when posted, it would be upvoted to high heaven. I was downvoted to hell before I was upvoted. Here's another one, and here's a whole list by user krayshawn. Notice how the response is just deflection and refusing to acknowledge the point.

Stop blaming other people for your problems and start dealing with it. That solarwhetstone guy seems to be one of the moderators here that actually cares about changing the justifiably negative image that this subreddit has, and the fact that the response from this subreddit was to gather a pitchfork mob against him.

Anti semitism is a false premise.

Eliminate all races

Literally the same thread over and over and over. Do you have any evidence that shows that Bear posting a few troll threads 6 months ago means that all antisemitism is fake?

What do you think of the users who deny or question the holocaust? You really think they're fake? 2to4 is an actual literal white supremacist.

But Bear tried to play on conspiracies anti-semitism (which wouldn't have worked if there were not) 6 months ago for like 4 threads. Therefore holocaust denial literally never happens here and nobody has ever said anything anit-semitic.

Here's one from yesterday. He seems to be doing this pretty often: http://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/1tk4nq/in_which_ubipolarbear0_summons_his_voting_brigade/ce8vpf2?context=3[7]

This is also from 6 months ago and as an alt of one of the NLWers I think you know this.

Stop lying to and misleading this community to start witchunts. Against Jews on Christmas no less!

I think it is unfair for Bipolarbear0 to go around telling the entire website of Reddit...constantly...that r/conspiracy is antisemitic when we know that he makes fake accounts to make us appear anti-semitic. Are there a couple idiots in here? YES! There are idiots everywhere. The problem is that someone is attempting to discredit this sub with stupid claims. There is nothing wrong with pointing that out. If you see anyone posting things about Jews having huge noses or anything, please message the mods. If they don't get rid of racists, take that up with them. But please don't pretend that talking about Israel or a very small subpopulation of racist-supremacist Jews is "anti-semitic," because it isn't. We can talk about Catholics or the KKK all day long without anyone calling us racists.

So /u/4to2 doesn't exist? Nobody here denies the holocaust or ever upvote posts that say "the 6 million dollar myth!" ? How can you say that with a straight face? Well presumably, I can't see your face.

I think it is unfair for Bipolarbear0 to go around telling the entire website of Reddit...constantly...that r/conspiracy is antisemitic when we know that he makes fake accounts to make us appear anti-semitic.

He did that once 6 months ago. There is no evidence he has done it since. All the evidence you provide is literally rehashed shit from 6 months ago and you know it. I was there when the idea came up on IRC and then it kind of failed and didn't go over well with /r/conspiratard who said "well aren't they just going to use this as flimsy proof that they do get infiltrated"? So why would he keep going? The only reason he would is if he really wanted this place to be anti-semitic, and if without his posting it stopped being anti-semitic. I don't think you can make that claim though.

But please don't pretend that talking about Israel or a very small subpopulation of racist-supremacist Jews is "anti-semitic," because it isn't.

Right but articles like "the jews got kicked out of places forever because they're savages" and "jewish guy gets banking position near obama" and posters who actively question the holocaust.

Just so we can be clear. Denying the holocaust IS anti-semitic, right? If you don't think it is anti-semitic to intentionally minimise the suffering of jews on nazi propaganda then you don't really understand anti-semitism. Even the usual "well actually semite just means arab, and Jewish people actually caused WWII!" that goes on is concern trolling to try to minimise that suffering.

I hope that you do view such things as anti-semitic, but many many regular members of /r/conspiracy would disagree. And nowhere else in the world would you hear the argument that denying the suffering of millions based of your own personal distrust of a modern shadowy cabal is pretty damn bigoted.

90% chance you're being trolled by people who realise you're paranoid and will believe them if they just say that they are bear and they're watching you.

10% chance you photoshopped them yourself

0% Bear is spending his christmas saying "You are being watched" to alt accounts of NLW guys who spend all their time trying to create witch hunts against him because of his political views. That would just be feeding the trolls.

Re-read my post and get back to me. This was very difficult to read. You're just making shit up now. Please come back with something that is at least a semi-response to my post. And I want to point out that another 4 month alt account pmed me. You'll find that on my other thread. Again, what will satisfy that these are not photoshopped?

Wow you just completely gave up and didn't even respond to my points? Maybe you're Ghost_of_dusty then, that is more his style ...

And that new image definitely proves people are playing on your paranoia or you're faking it. "stop while you're can, you're getting too close"? Really? You're not any closer to anything than you were 6 months ago when you posted the same info for the same witch hunt.

You've been exposed, shill/troll. Respond to my arguments or admit that you are just lying.

You're just making shit up now.

Feel free to point out what you thought I made up. Is it that holocaust denial happens? That BipolarBear ISN'T user /u/2to4?

Re-read my post and get back to me, it seems it went over your head the first time. Please come back with something that is at least a semi-response to my post.

It looks like you just ignored the fact that not everyone here is anti-semitic and also ignored the point that since we have proof of "false flag" anti-semitism," there isn't any reason to assume it was an isolated incident. You fluffed up your post with red herrings like this:

So /u/4to2 doesn't exist?

and this stupid post:

How can you say that with a straight face?

He didn't say it. What's wrong with you?

Then you made up some conspiracies about him photoshopping the pms and leadhelmet actually being the Dusty guy. You really are a troll.

He's a total troll. He's spends hours on here stalking me and accusing me of being anti-semitic and now I see this huge push to label any questioning of the Holocaust here taboo and off-limits.

He stalks me and he's admitted to copy pasting comments to "troll" people, in his own words. He lied that he never posted to conspiratard when he has.

It's people like him and the many other internet warriors he's bringing from conspiratard that are ruining free and open discussion on this sub.

You're the one going through my comment history and replying to everybody I've replied to. And you are saying libellous things about me, how would I bring people with me? If that's the case, why hasn't anyone posted on this thread to back me up? How come I've never made a thread on conspiratard.

You need to stop stalking me and posting after me. Just beacuse I revealed to people that you actively question the holocaust based off of anti-semitic organisations information, and deny that it was even a holocaust (300,000 of a population and allegedly hitler had plans to move them away? That's pretty much blatantly saying there was no attempt at genocide.)

Please stop following me around and posting on what I say. You are just one of the better examples of anti-semitic posters (you don't see yourself as it but you literally use the same arguments and resources as white supremacists). 4to2 is a better example because he literally posts on whiterights.

But yeah it's all me

He lied that he never posted to conspiratard when he has.

I said I haven't posted a thread to conspiaratard. You have no reading comprehension and I would prefer if you'd stop making up lies about me. Everything I have said about you is 100% from your own mouth.

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You didn't read my post. If you look through the history of /u/interrogatorbunny, he had a few posts on r/conspiracy that were blatantly antisemitic. I can't believe someone is actually trying to defend him, especially after he tried giving solidwhetstone advice on how to curb the anti-semitism. The very first step would be for Bipolarbear0 to stop making alt accounts and posting anti-semitic rants here.

Yes, yes, everyone is out to troll this sub. Now, go and take your meds and go to sleep.

Well, that may account for a single incident, but it certainly does not account for the dozens of various posts that have made it to the top of this subreddit that are blatantly bigoted towards Jews of all stripes and colors. And I'm not talking about the old canard of anti-Zionism getting mislabled as anti-semitic by Foxman et al. I'm talking about blatant hatred and distrust of Jews. Examples below, note that most of the comments are supportive of anti-Jewish bigotry and many come from prolific posters of this subreddit:

http://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/y5e48/message_to_the_jews_you_have_been_kicked_out_of/

http://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/wx32m/jews_behind_financial_collapse_says_financial/

http://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/1afmx3/ernst_zundel_warns_jews_about_doing_to_america/

http://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/1a3cay/helen_thomas_jews_in_total_control_of_us/

http://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/13zr69/this_system_is_totally_in_control_of_the_american/

http://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/1qrn1i/the_childrape_assembly_line_rabbi_nuchem/

http://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/1cd5wo/six_jewish_companies_control_96_of_the_worlds/

http://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/18kb45/guess_what_a_jewish_1er_with_a_net_worth_of_66/

http://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/m9ugl/medias_jewish_supremacist_double_standards_have/

http://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/10zop1/i_really_have_a_hard_time_understanding_how_the/

So to answer your question, OP, yes I do want to know why there is so much anti-semitism here. But I think I know the answer, it's because there are a lot of people here who hate Jews.

Now OP, some questions for you.

WHO THE HECK ARE YOU? You've only been on here a month, yet you seem to have knowledge of many of the inner workings of /r/conspiracy and related subreddits. So, is this your second account? Your tenth? Who are you shilling for? How many times on average do you upvote a single post? Transparency, man, we need it.

1st link- Attempting to tell a religious group that they should see everyone else as equal? Call the cops!

2nd link: The guy hasn't said a word in a year. And the down/ups are equal. This was stupid of you to even post this.

3rd link: This guy has barely any activity. Looks like a standard Bipolarbear0 alt account to me. Horrible example.

4th link: It's a title that was taken right off an Israeli news site. Are you serious?

5th link: The guy was either banned, or deleted his account. Regardless, there is nothing wrong with talking about a country with a bunch of agents here. OP is clearly talking about Israeli agents, not Jews as a race.

6th link: That is a disgusting problem. If it was about Catholics, you wouldn't be so butthurt over it. Get over yourself.

7th link: An interesting coincidence, and it should have been mentioned that they weren't trying to refer to Jews as a race. I'll half-ass grant you think one, but it is a far cry from anyone saying stupid shit like "dumb big nosed kikes are controlling the world." That would be something worth mentioning, but clearly you won't be able to provide anything even close to that. Why? Because this isn't an anti-semitic sub, troll.

8th link: That is a proven Bipolarber0 account, and I'm pretty sure he was caught brigading that specific post for upvotes, but I'll have to check. Either way, he said nothing about "big nised kikes," so again you are butthurt over nothing.

9th link: Another deleted account. That's interesting. The title shouldn't have been sensationalized like that, but nothing there is racist in any way.

10th link: Almost no activity coming from that account. Again, what a coincidence. And nothing there is racist. It is actually calling out racism. Why do you have a problem with that?


Ok, so 1, maybe 2 posts you can really stretch the definition of "anti-semitism." This is hardly even close to what I would call "evidence" that this sub is racist or anti-semitic in general. The most blatant anti-semitism comes from Bipolarbear0 as I have already proven, so go tell him to stop his bullshit instead if you really care about racism and anti-semitism. But you won't do that because you have an agenda.

This is the first time I've looked through this subreddit, so forgive me for butting into the family problem, but you never answered his question. He made a valid point about you being brand new yet knowing the ins and outs of the subreddit. So if you really care about exposing this stuff, then you should atleast answer his question for the rest of the sub and be transparent.

I was banned on another account in another sub that I sometimes participate in. Instead of using 2 accounts to participate there and here, I simply deleted it and made this one. I also tend to make different aliases ever so often just to keep my name from being connected to other accounts that I use online, like twitter, facebook, etc. I've been doing this since at least 2005 when I started noticing all of the creepy "connect your account to this, and connect your email to that." I like to stay anonymous. I shouldn't be a target for suspicion because I am not here attempting to discredit r/conspiracy. Correct? I even messaged the mods here explaining this entire situation when I first made this account so that I could be an approved submitter with a new account. I'm sure they have the records.

So no, it was not a valid point. I'm not trolling anybody and I'm not pretending to be anti-semitic. That is why I ignored his stupid question....because it's stupid and designed to discredit me, thus negating everything I have to say. I really hope nobody actually fell for that.

Whoa, relax man. He never accused you of being a troll or being against the sub, he merely wanted transparency like he said. It's good to know who the people are who are heading something like this. Who would want to follow someone without knowing anything about him? No need to be so defensive. It WAS a valid question.

from AnalKidFucker sent 10 minutes ago

You are being watched.


See? Why would I keep the same account? This happens every time

http://imgur.com/wy2uY3Y

screenshot in case you don't believe me.

You're the one stretching things. The first link is blatant anti-semitism. Let's focus on that for a second and your apologetics about it.

1st link- Attempting to tell a religious group that they should see everyone else as equal? Call the cops!

First of all, Jews are not exclusively a religious group. Some of the most powerful Jews of the 20th century were open Atheists, like Theodore Herzl, the founder of Zionism.

Second, that's not at all the implication from the link. The author is saying that Jews should "start behaving like civilized people" and that the reason for all the expulsions were because they were not "behaving like civilized people".

So basically what the link is saying is that Jews, no matter what color or creed, have always behaved like uncivilized savages and it's always been their fault that they've been discriminated against so they should step up their game.

I guess that you also believe that racism comes from blacks acting like filthy subhumans and if they don't want racism, they should act more human?

As for you, I think you should stop with the accusations of "shills" based on account activity until you either have at least 6 months on this account or post all of your other accounts in a public thread, instead of being all secretive and spooky about it.

You're clearly stretching to find a way to call this sub anti-semitic. It's not gonna happen. Just stop trying. You've been exposed so just deal with it and go away.

I like the part where you went through my comment and pointed out all the parts that were inconsistent and wrong.

Oh wait that's right you didn't.

This is why I love trying to argue on /r/conspiracy. As soon as you think you are winning an argument, you are called a "shill" or "JIDF" or something else and the other guy will simply declare that a victory and stop arguing.

Tell me again, Mr. One Month, how was I "exposed"?

You're still here? I thought we already went over this earlier in the other thread.

So to answer your question, OP, yes I do want to know why there is so much anti-semitism here. But I think I know the answer, it's because there are a lot of people here who hate Jews. know the truth.

FTFY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D0kWAqZxJVE

Because people have yet to realize that the worlds woes can be traced to the Anglo-American Corporate/Government Nexus. Mainly we are talking about Wall St./Washington/London

if judism isn't a race but a religion why is it considered racist?

if judism is considered a race then why make antisemitism a thing when people hate christians and muslims the same.

If you are going to say you are more special than the people you are criticizing wouldn't some anger be at value over you trying to act better than everyone else.

Want to know the real reason? Conspiracy theories are the bread and butter of neonazis, historical revisionists and other right wing freaks.

That's the only reason.

I think there a large amount of people who actually believe Jews control the world here, though.

I think a large portion of your family like to fingerbang turtles.

Blanket accusations are for weak minds. Back it up or fuck off.

Lol. Most of these are over a year old. How do you know they weren't created by /u/bipolarbear0. That is exactly the kind of stuff he was posting. You need to do some actuall research into this.

Dumbass. bipolarbear is conspiracy in and of itself. Just come to terms with the fact that the sub has a lot of antisemitism and just own up to it. You ask for evidence I presented it. It's not new, it's old, and continuing, as you pointed by the age of the posts. I don't think one person would spend a year making 100s of accounts and posts just to defame a fucking conspiracy subreddit that has no influence whatsoever.

You guys are not that important, trust me.

No you didn't. The fact that that you are now resorting to name calling proves that you have a weak mind. Also, I am now much more confident about my turtle statement. You can't come in here with blanket statements, old links and name calling and expect to be taken seriously. Now run back to /r/conspiratard and complain about how no one respects your opinion in this sub.

Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest thou also be like unto him. —Proverbs 26:4 (King James version)

Your mother sucks cocks in hell

~ Linda Blair

He provided evidence, and you pretended it was invalid.

That's because it was invalid.

Admit nothing, deny everything, make counter-accusations. This is what you just did and that's why you lost the argument and he's right to disengage from the debate.

What argument did I lose?

Actually, don't answer that. As much as I would love an astute analysis from a tard troll on my previous conversation, I would rather spend Christmas with my wife.

Merry Christmas.

You argued that that he was doing blanket assertions. He proved he wasn't. Now happy delayed Hanukkah.

Fuck it, I'll bite. My wife is asleep anyway. He posted links between 1-2 years old. During which time, your moderator admitted to posting antisemitic and racist shit on this sub with the stated intention of baiting people. Anyone with half a brain knows that his actual intention was to discredit this sub and I don't think its a stretch to say that he probably wasn't the only one doing it. Because what the hell, racism is so fucking funny in /r/conspiratard and it's okay as long as it's a joke. It worked though, because here you are taking samples from a polluted batch of evidence and touting it as proof of racism, etc... Clean your own fucking house, before you worry about others. Why is he still a mod there? Why are you here worrying about a sub you don't care about?

You really should check /r/conspiratard - You can find scores upon scores of newer anti-semitic threads there. Indeed, among my own very latest comments you can find some as well.

In the end, the most telling thing isn't that anti-semitic garbage gets posted by whomever, it's how much it's upvoted. But just like with the newer examples of anti-semitism, I wouldn't be able to prove that the upvotes are not a false-flag conspiracy, either.

I can't prove it either. That is why I just ignore them and move on. There will always be assholes in the world. I don't like it when 200k+ users are lumped in with a few misguided souls.

most of those look deliberately provocative to me

Why are 95% of Hollywood Jews anti gun?

Why are 95% of Jewish politicians against the U.S. Constitution and are extremely antigun?

Explain that to me please. Would LOVE to hear an answer.

I personally believe that Jews consider themselves to be "God's chosen people" and their plan is to rule over all of their goyim slaves and live like kings.

The only way they will ever be able to do that is to disarm everyone.

Masters do not allow slaves to own guns.

Free people own guns, slaves do not.

Why in six years in the United States military did I never one time meet an active duty, guard or reserve Jewish solder? I met thousands upon thousands of soldiers. I served with everyone from Muslims to Mormons.

But never once...not one single time did I ever meet a Jewish soldier.

Jews hate the constitution. Jews hate the second amendment. Jews hate their goyim slaves. Jews hate our country and they hate us. They endlessly endlessly push for gun control. They will never stop.

The Jewish gun grabber is a bigger threat than a Muslim suicide bomber to the freedom of the United States of America.

I have met a US soldier born Jewish that served :o

I served with a few Jewish faith persons as well, they were about as prevalent as each of the various Christian and Muslim faiths as well.

Your paranoia in this post makes me afraid that you own guns. Your obvious mental illness should be treated. Please get some help before you hurt yourself or someone else.

There's no anti-semitism on /r/conspiracy, here's my proof! ... Anti - semites post in thread ...

Jews, Christians, & Muslims can all go fuck themselves. The one thing worse than anti-semitism is pro-semitism. The day can't come soon enough when those 3 religions are extinguished from the face of the earth.

When no one is let to worship the creator what chance do you think you'll have?

Ya sure, the good lord will just let atheists and luciferians have the planet.......

Religions are ideas, not flesh and blood. The Abrahamic creation myth and its false God is a parasite robbing mankind of its goodness and hope. The people of Earth will overcome these evil philosophies and live free.

As if atheists and luciferians are the only option. Native American spirituality is far superior to the Abrahamic devils.

3 things you can not argue, politics, religion and her.

Know that olld saying?

If you don't believe in a higher power then i have no intentions to convince you otherwise. I believe, you dont, lets agree to disagree

I am a pantheist. Mankind's enslavement via the worship of the false god of Abraham threatens all mankind to eternal darkness. Mankind will make a hopeful future amongst the stars and the false God of Abraham will evaporate into dust as mankind rises above that false illusion and transcends those evil books.

And that it is He who is the Lord of Sirius

[Quran 53:49]

Mmk, I'll worship the creator and you can go on worshiping the creation.

so.....ya.., good luck with that.

There is no creation or creator. The creation of the universe is a non-event. The Universe has always been.

Powerless? There's usually around 5-600 people here, and around 200-250 people there. If they link to a thread, many of them will swarm to that specific thread and brigade it. The 5-600 members here are spread out in 50 or so threads. So they actually have more members participating in certain threads, which perfectly explains why we sometimes get reasonable posts (or benign posts) that get 50 downvotes.

Simply a shallow attempt to discredit. It doesn't work. I've yet to see any racist behavior from someone labeled antisemitic.

I served with a few Jewish faith persons as well, they were about as prevalent as each of the various Christian and Muslim faiths as well.

I can't prove it either. That is why I just ignore them and move on. There will always be assholes in the world. I don't like it when 200k+ users are lumped in with a few misguided souls.

Why would anybody waste their time trying to debunk a sub?