I nominate /u/axolotl_peyotl.

edit - also /u/SovereignMan.

Hey that's me!

I second the motion on /u/SovereignMan and /u/Three_Letter_Agency.

I also saw a few people mention /u/danxmason, /u/MrsSippy, /u/Orangutan, /u/salvia_d, /u/AssuredlyAThrowAway, /u/KingContext, /u/privatejoker, /u/go1dfish, and /u/GrippinThaGrain...there are so many great contributors to the sub.

Edit: added a few.

Up vote for axyotl, probably one of the best contributors here

Yourself and sovereign man definitely deserve this. You two have my vote of confidence...

/u/Orangutan

He's a mod at the disinfo site 911blogger. Please see this, which was published on the front page of the now defunct but great little newspaper, the Rock Creek Free Press:

Three of the most well-informed, articulate and prolific CIT supporters were banned simultaneously on May 24, 2010, while in the midst of a heated online debate with 911blogger moderator Erik Larson (aka Loose Nuke). Truth activist Stefan S. of London, England explains it:

“The exact moment that Adam Syed, Adam Ruff and I were banned, we were in mid-debate with Erik Larson. Nothing remotely offensive or rule breaking was being said by any one of us, let alone all three of us at the exact same time.

“What was happening was that Larson had been backed into a corner over a blog entry of his, which was a listing of what he claimed were witnesses to the plane flying south of the Citgo station prior to it striking the Pentagon.

“Not a single one of those witnesses even mentioned Citgo, it was just a collection of laughably tenuous arguments for why ambiguous witness statements must be supportive of the official story. The list was submitted to an intensive analysis and it was shown conclusively that none of the witnesses supported the official flight path, that the list included several witnesses who stated that the plane flew to the north of Citgo, and most strikingly, several who explicitly stated that they were not even in the vicinity at the time of the attack.

“The discussion was drifting into increasingly embarrassing territory for Larson when — presto — all three of us were banned and Larson, in a completely childish fashion, proceeded to have the “last word” in full knowledge that he had just stopped the people he was addressing from being able to respond.

“Larson’s articles are disinformation; the information he puts out there is deliberately false with a motive to undermine genuine research. 911blogger is no longer a 9/11 truth site, that much is clear.”

Edit: added link to the Rock Creek Free Press.

I agree that censoring or marginalizing 'no plane' theories and hoax theories in general is not acceptable. There is a huge effort to marginalize these theories by the powers that be and by disinformation agents. Thanks for identifying this history.

I would like to see each prospective mod address GlenBaskerville below (and hopefully agree to his mission statement) and promise not to censor hoax theories (like Sandy Hook, Boston bombing, Syria war hoaxes, no plane theories, etc.).

http://911blogger.com/news/2010-12-28/debating-what-hit-pentagon-exaggeration-namecalling-and-threats

I have /u/Orangutan clocked at +36, and you 0.

911blogger has also been incredible. What have you done for spreading the truth if I might ask?

Sorry, but I don't want this account linked to my real world identity. I've done a ton.

I don't know what clocking is so can't comment on that.

Sorry, but I don't want this account linked to my real world identity.

Lol perhaps are unaware...NSA.

well aware of NSA but they are not my only concern.

Nor should they be. Only bring it up because if you think you have even the remotest chance of protecting your online identity you don't understand what the NSA has at its disposal.

The NSA is already sharing this info with other agencies, so, best of luck.

I'm thinking of potential employers, clients, etc, who have no access to NSA files.

Thanks anyway for your concern.

edit: thanks

I meant my combined upvotes for him personally. It's a feature in "reddit enhancement suite".

You keep bringing up a small incident, but 911blogger have done so unbelievably much throughout the years. You think their shunning of the "no plane theory" warrants your disinfo accusations? A small gripe like that shouldn't make you attack them this much. If you do care about spreading the word, then you should be against division in the scene.

a small incident

You didn't go to the link did you? If you had, you'd know that it's not just one incident. It's a consistent pattern over the years to shut out the most incriminating aspects of 9/11 truth.

You seem to be intentionally misunderstanding me, which makes me doubt your sincerity. It's not just no plane theories. It's the banning of supporters of CIT, Pilots for Truth, and anyone with an account at WTCdemolition. It's attacking authors like David Ray Griffin.

I am 100% convinced that 911blogger is controlled opposition, and so are many others. See this:

http://truthandshadows.wordpress.com/tag/911-blogger/

That was one incredibly long article you linked to. I read the first few paragraph and have to say that he does appeal to emotion a lot, which is very worrisome.

I'm speaking out of my element, and it would be unreasonable for me to keep disputing your claims because of my ignorance on the matter. Just wanted to highlight that it's a very serious accusation you're bringing forth, and it's also very difficult to trust you, since you have no track-record on /r/conspiracy at all, unlike /u/Orangutan who has contributed immensely.

You seem to be intentionally misunderstanding me, which makes me doubt your sincerity.

I'm not intentionally misunderstanding you, I'm questioning your accusations since they're pretty severe.

Just know that this is very damaging to the scene if 911blogger hasn't been infiltrated and they're not a disinfo outlet. But I'm keeping an open mind on this, since your material seems compelling.

The article is 2,367 words. That's not exactly a book. So rather than continue to argue with me, please just read it. Yes, those are serious accusations and I'm dead serious about them. I have the evidence and will go up against anyone who wants to dispute me. For starters, here's an excerpt from that article.

In part because of this decision by 911blogger, to reject Barrie Zwicker’s endorsement of CIT while publishing a childish hit piece from an anonymous source, Southern California 9/11 truth activist and We Are Change LA member Adam Ruff wrote:

“In my view it is now 100% confirmed that 911blogger is an enemy of the truth movement as a whole and is engaged in an open campaign of attack on good truthers.”

The RCFP interviewed Zwicker via email

RCFP: What do you find most compelling about CIT’s work?

Zwicker: A historically significant deception has been revealed by these eyewitnesses. The simplicity of CIT’s findings is also significant, as they don’t lend themselves to being undermined by obfuscations or convoluted scientific discussion. It comes down to this: South side of the gas station = official story, North side = inside job. Not even CIT’s detractors have found a way around this, try as they might. Any honest person who watches the interviews has to agree that the plane was on the north side proving inside job. It’s as good an example as any of critical truth, the primary goal of the 9/11 Truth movement.

RCFP: What do you make of those who say they appreciate CIT’s work but do not think they proved “flyover?”

Zwicker: Commercial airliners cannot make startling turns to left or right in such limited airspace, nor can they vanish into thin air. Flyover is the only rational explanation, not to mention that CIT provides a witness who saw the plane flying away. If this ever gets to a fair and uncorrupted court of law, I am as confident as I am of anything, that such a court will determine this plane overflew the Pentagon.

RCFP: Have you read the criticisms of CIT’s work from Arabesque, Jim Hoffman and Victoria Ashley, and do you think they have merit?

Zwicker: They lack merit because they do not provide counter-evidence. They have no firsthand eyewitness interviews from people who specifically place the plane to the south side of the gas station. Those I could weigh against the eyewitnesses interviewed by CIT. As far as I can see, Arabesque, whoever that is (I don’t care for anonymity), Hoffman and Ashley have provided none at all. They take snippets of third-hand printed media quotes, none of which are actually South of Citgo witnesses, just statements by people who said they saw the plane hit the building. Indeed, one particular detractor blog by “Caustic Logic” quotes a few people as “witnesses” who were not even in the area at the time of the attack! One was in North Carolina, arrived in DC the afternoon of 9/11, saw the downed light poles, and was thus presented as a “light pole witness.” This is in a blog entry titled “The South Path Impact: Documented.”

RCFP: What conclusions do you draw from 911blogger refusing to post your endorsement of CIT?

Zwicker: Actually, my endorsement was briefly posted for about 30 minutes, then withdrawn. It’s painful for me to learn that 911blogger, which I consider to be the premiere 9/11Truth site, is censoring CIT and those who support CIT. Even more distressing is that 911blogger has failed to censor some quite rude comments about CIT’s work and its team members. So it’s clearly one-sided. One conclusion that can be drawn is that there are players behind the scenes who have prevailed upon the moderators at 911blogger to stultify CIT and its findings. Since the censorship is so blatant and carries with it obvious penalties in the form of loss of credibility, those behind the censorship orders must really have their knickers in a knot about something. It’s a clear sign that those who control that website are trying to control thought when it comes to the Pentagon. Most people in the truth movement that I talk to in the real world are agreed that no plane hit the Pentagon. That the most visited 9/11 truth website would be so hostile towards evidence that supports this widely held belief within the ranks of Truthers is at the least disconcerting.

A little more than a month after Zwicker’s endorsement of CIT was rejected, the situation repeated itself, when retired NASA aeronautical engineer Dwain Deets recorded a video endorsement of CIT on August 30, 2010 and submitted it to 911blogger. Once again, 911blogger refused, without explanation, to post the endorsement of a highly qualified professional.

Prior to 911blogger rejecting these video endorsements from Zwicker and Deets, nearly all users at 911blogger who were vocal in their support of CIT had been banned. An informal poll easily came up with 25 former users of 911blogger who had been banned without explanation—about half of whom are CIT supporters.

I meant that the critique on Griffin was long, didn't visit the other one.

I also thought the "no plane theory" involved the Twin Towers and not the pentagon. Your arguments are very compelling and worrisome. I wish /u/Orangutan or anyone from 911blogger would acknowledge these accusations and refute them if possible. As of now, I am keeping an open mind until I read more about it.

Your arguments are very compelling and worrisome.

Thank you! It is all too rare in online forums for people to admit it when the other person has good points.

I wish /u/Orangutan or anyone from 911blogger would acknowledge these accusations and refute them if possible.

I can assure you that they are very much aware of this thread and probably discussing it right now and trying to figure out who I am and how to discredit me. /u/9-11-2001 (who claimed below to be a mod at blogger) will not be back anytime soon. He has no response other than that they are a fake 9-11 truth site that allows plenty of discussion of the WTC because that crime can never be pinned on anyone in particular. (They could always claim that freedom-hating Arabs got jobs on the cleaning crew.)

But a faked plane crash at the Pentagon can definitely be pinned on real live people who are enjoying the booty their participation in 9-11 earned them, and don't want to dragged through the streets by an angry mob any time soon. Hence the concerted effort to keep that fact under wraps.

I'm not entirely convinced yet, but enough to make me not want to appoint /u/Orangutan for the time being, even though my voice is minuscule compared to other users here. At least until he or other representatives can clear up all this mess.

Here you go sir:

http://911blogger.com/news/2010-12-28/debating-what-hit-pentagon-exaggeration-namecalling-and-threats

http://911blogger.com/news/2011-02-08/richard-gage-completely-withdraws-support-cit

read through the comments as well

If Richard motherfucking Gage doesn't support their claims, I don't even have to read a single word further, even though I might later.

Thanks for clearing this up.

Richard has been compromised.

This idea that if we can’t prove a 757 didn’t hit the Pentagon then we should default to the official story is absurd. Why does the OS get a pass, just because it can’t be proven wrong? Why doesn’t it have to be proven right? Aren’t there enough questions about the Pentagon – involving proof or not – to support a new investigation? Isn’t that the goal?

At the bottom of his statement, Gage refers readers to several articles that he says will help them understand why he has soured on CIT. One of them is called “Debating What Hit the Pentagon: Exaggeration, Name-calling, and Threats” by Gregg Roberts. This article, which appeared on 911Blogger, is a response to an article in the Rock Creek Free Press accusing 911Blogger of working against 9/11 Truth.

In the article, Roberts suggests that “the complainers” as he calls the authors of the article were told how to behave, failed to listen, and then were told why they were banned. I don’t know if this is a fair account, but I know that I was banned after just two weeks as a member of the site, and I called no one names. I was also never given a reason for the banning – not even a response to my query on the subject. I doubt that I’m alone.

By jumping in bed with 911Blogger, Gage seriously damages his credibility on this issue. This site regularly bashes CIT while not allowing CIT to respond because they’ve been banned.

Gage admits he is not as knowledgeable about the Pentagon as he is about the collapse of the World Trade Center towers. His statement, and the articles he refers people to, confirm his lack of knowledge of the subject.At the bottom of his statement, Gage refers readers to several articles that he says will help them understand why he has soured on CIT. One of them is called “Debating What Hit the Pentagon: Exaggeration, Name-calling, and Threats” by Gregg Roberts. This article, which appeared on 911Blogger, is a response to an article in the Rock Creek Free Press accusing 911Blogger of working against 9/11 Truth.

In the article, Roberts suggests that “the complainers” as he calls the authors of the article were told how to behave, failed to listen, and then were told why they were banned. I don’t know if this is a fair account, but I know that I was banned after just two weeks as a member of the site, and I called no one names. I was also never given a reason for the banning – not even a response to my query on the subject. I doubt that I’m alone.

By jumping in bed with 911Blogger, Gage seriously damages his credibility on this issue. This site regularly bashes CIT while not allowing CIT to respond because they’ve been banned.

Gage admits he is not as knowledgeable about the Pentagon as he is about the collapse of the World Trade Center towers. His statement, and the articles he refers people to, confirm his lack of knowledge of the subject.

I'll read everything there is about this later and give my opinion on it in a separate post.

At face value, you have a weak case going against Richard Gage, who is the closest thing to a deity to truthers.

At face value, you have a weak case

In the world of cognitive infiltration, very little is as it seems.

"This article is a response to “Is Leading 9/11 Truth Site Working For The Other Side?”, credited to “staff writers” at the Rock Creek Free Press, November 2010 edition, available at:

http://www.rockcreekfreepress.com/CreekV4No11-Web.pdf

The “leading 9/11 Truth site” being referred to is 911Blogger.com. The authors of the article critiqued here chose to remain anonymous, and the article’s title doesn’t lend itself to an easily pronounceable acronym. Therefore I will refer to the article’s authors, along with their vocal message board sympathizers and Barrie Zwicker, as The Complainers. We will abbreviate Citizen Investigation Team as “CIT” and their video National Security Alert as “NSA” (noting the irony).

I normally prefer the high ground when it comes to accusations regarding intentions. However, since the Complainers routinely impute sinister motives to their critics, the reader must consider whether that behavior is more consistent with an intention to support or subvert the overall agenda of the 9/11 Truth Movement."

Conclusion: The Complainers’ fallacies, confusion of facts with conclusions, absurdly improper emphasis on a controversial issue, and various forms of emotional manipulation have gone on long enough. We call upon them all, one more time, to retract and stop their personal attacks, stop rehashing the same arguments, and start taking a scientific and legal approach. Until they do that, and much more conclusive evidence regarding the Pentagon is released than has been released so far, the evidence for the controlled demolition of World Trade Center Building 7 and the Twin Towers will remain the centerpieces of a rational call for a real 9/11 investigation.

http://911blogger.com/news/2010-12-28/debating-what-hit-pentagon-exaggeration-namecalling-and-threats

http://911blogger.com/news/2010-12-28/debating-what-hit-pentagon-exaggeration-namecalling-and-threats

Check this out. Explains everything

/u/9-11-2001 (who claimed below to be a mod at blogger) will not be back anytime soon.

What is it you want to hear from me? I tried PM'ing you before you even posted this. Why are you so infatuated with CIT and it's plane-flying-over the pentagon theory?

edit: Here you go sir:

http://911blogger.com/news/2010-12-28/debating-what-hit-pentagon-exaggeration-namecalling-and-threats

http://911blogger.com/news/2011-02-08/richard-gage-completely-withdraws-support-cit

What is it you want to hear from me?

Disinformation rule # 9:

Play Dumb. No matter what evidence or logical argument is offered, avoid discussing issues with denial they have any credibility, make any sense, provide any proof, contain or make a point, have logic, or support a conclusion. Mix well for maximum effect.

Have you not read the thread Justin? Why are you pretending to have no clue about the evidence I've posted here? Hoping that others will assume that clear accusations haven't yet been made?

Gregg Roberts writes 13 pages but never answers points made in the the Rock Creek Free Press article.

Why were Adams Syed and Ruff and Stefan simultaneously banned?

Why was Barrie Zwicker's video endorsement of CIT posted for only 30 minutes at blogger?

Why did you refuse to post the video endoresement from NASA Flight Director Dwain Deets?

My name isn't Justin....

and the answer to ALL OF YOUR questions are right here http://911blogger.com/news/2010-12-28/debating-what-hit-pentagon-exaggeration-namecalling-and-threats

Orangutan posts a lot. As do I. That doesn't mean everything I post is gospel but that I think it's "interesting".

Seems like they are holding a grudge.

you have my vote

I agree with /u/axolotl_peyotl also /u/Three_Letter_Agency

I support axolotl_peyotl. I'm not familiar with the other user.

/u/Three_Letter_Agency is easily the most polished and knowledgeable poster I've seen in this sub in the past year or so. Check their history.

Are you actually interested in modding? You were a mod before, correct?

His profile page doesn't show me that. Nothing against him but he seems more interested in sports. A 7month account isn't enough, in my opinion, to be a conspiracy mod.

Check out thepeopleshistory.net Alllie. It's his website. I think you will be impressed

How about me?

who you? the shill?

no, you're a good user. heres a nice post you made, you mighty warrior in r/news. i once had a top 10 in /r/news and one in /r/worldnews the same day.

http://www.reddit.com/r/news/comments/1t60a0/the_cia_wont_release_its_official_history_of_the/ce4qaew

Google, Microsoft, etc are being used by the U.S. government as National Champions. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_champions National champion is a political concept in which large corporations in strategic sectors are expected not only to seek profit but also to "advance the interests of the nation.” This policy has been popular and practiced by many countries This is the point that I was failing to make to you I suppose. And yes, he is "reliable" Fred Burton, Stratfor’s Vice President for Intelligence and a former State Department official, describes Google as follows:

Do you really think Alex Jones is stratfor? and /u/OWNtheNWO too?

http://www.theguardian.com/environment/earth-insight/2013/nov/28/war-on-democracy-corporations-spy-profit-activism

The FBI's involvement in corporate espionage has been institutionalised through 'InfraGard', "a little-known partnership between private industry, the FBI and the Department of Homeland Security." The partnership involves the participation of "more than 23,000 representatives of private industry," including 350 of the Fortune 500 companies.

http://wikileaks.org/Op-ed-Google-and-the-NSA-Who-s.html

Documents published last year by WikiLeaks obtained from the US intelligence contractor Stratfor, show that in 2011 Jared Cohen, then (as he is now) Director of Google Ideas, was off running secret missions to the edge of Iran in Azerbaijan. In these internal emails, Fred Burton, Stratfor’s Vice President for Intelligence and a former State Department official, describes Google as follows:

Google is getting WH [White House] and State Dept support and air cover. In reality they are doing things the CIA cannot do… [Cohen] is going to get himself kidnapped or killed. Might be the best thing to happen to expose Google’s covert role in foaming up-risings, to be blunt. The US Gov’t can then disavow knowledge and Google is left holding the shit-bag.

That sure sounds like National Champion activity to me.

ty

Are you bipolar or something?

You talk shit and call me a shill and then when I show you evidence you thank me?

http://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/search?q=author%3Athree_letter_agency&restrict_sr=on

Did you mean to dodge the questions?

If you sort by new he hasn't been very active since three montths ago. Again, nothing against him but axolotl_peyotl seems a better choice to me.

You have a point that they may be too busy to be useful here.

edit: questions were answered here

This thread has convinced me Three_Letter_Agency is NSA or some kind of shill. A lot of pressure to make someone with a seven months account a mod here.

Not his first account here.

Why change your user name unless you're hiding or banned.

I don't know. I've seen many reasons stated over the years. I guess some people are just paranoid.

Agreed. I have him at +97 on res from my time over the years.

Lol he is 40 for me!

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I second this!

http://np.reddit.com/r/conspiratard/comments/1trcso/let_the_power_struggle_begin/

Hopefully we don't see any shady voting come from our friends across the troll bridge. :) Play nice, guys.

Good lord. Report that to admins. Clear violation of TOS.

http://www.reddit.com/message/compose?to=%23reddit.com

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Vox populi.

Good luck with that, they get paid to troll this sub, and none of the mods are banning them, so...

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Without a doubt, one of the biggest offenders in my opinion is u/DefiantShill. This guy/gal has to go!

Clearly deranged. You could almost picture him foaming at the mouth ranting about getting a "cake and party hats for his little buddy"- insane.

if what they do is vote brigading, then what SRS does is vote brigading. And SRS will never go. No matter how hard you pretend it's organised vote brigades it's really just a parody sub of this sub with a much smaller usercount. You can tell from the Whetstone drama recently that the vast majority of vote patterns support the "whetstone is a traitor and must go". So I dunno.

Whereas when someone linked to the thread of Whetstone talking in /r/conspiratard, is that vote brigading? Of course not, it's just linking to a page. And your post here is currently at a positive.

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They're a parody sub about conspiracy theories. This is /r/conspiracy. It's not complicated.

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I don't run the sub. The two are both sub-reddits. They frequently link to infowars and other silly conspiracies, but roughly 30-40% of the links seem to be from /r/conspiracy. What does that prove? And why 1%? Because I can't think of many bigger places to find and discuss conspiracy theories than a sub with 204k subbed members on the same website your community belongs to. Your 1 percent figure is a bit confusing.

And anyway, if what they're doing is inciting vote brigading, aren't you doing the exact same thing by linking back to them? I just don't really get it. The admins clearly define vote brigading as requiring an incentive (like how /r/niggers posts used to be like "hey come help me yell at this black guy" in the titles). Linking to other sub-reddits does not break the site-wide rules, otherwise this sockpuppet would've been banned.

Anyway I don't think you really understand what vote brigading is. If SRS is still around then you're never be able too get a tiny parody sub-reddit banned just by linking to them over and over on an alt account.

they get paid to troll this sub

They wish.

The tenacity with some of them is way over the top, way too much for someone just trolling. IMHO You just can't explain away the veracity without thinking they are getting compensated. JIDF is my guess. Religious zealotry could also explain for this as well I guess.

The knowledge that they have fucked over honest, sincere people is reward enough in their minds.

Why did the comments get deleted?

Not sure. I know Z_B posted a link to a post on the Fucktard Sub where they were trying to gain support for infiltrating the mod election.

None of the deleted comments were from me.

That axolotl guy has +27 votes by me, so I guess he is good poster, I would support his nomination.

I also nominate myself. I already own many subreddits and mod /r/governmentoppression so I have the knowledge, experience and good will to do it.

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Mrs Sippy is a spy.

If you take out the s, i, p, you get Mr Spy.

That is creative.

Both of these users are some of my favorites! They have my vote!

axolotl for president!!

Isn't this self nominations?

Both good choices.

I agree and also nominate /u/Alllie

EDIT: OK OK I get it, SHe also PM'd me and graciously declined interest in being a mod!

Mission accomplished folks! :) Now lets get back to vetting other proposed /u/ for mod.

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Reason? Have you seen Alllie's submission history?

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Alllie is a her.

She was a mod and was removed for some reason(s), correct?

Fighting with flytape. He goaded me and I responded in kind. Which, as a mod, I wasn't supposed to do. Baaad alllie!!

Thanks for the info. Seems like a frivolous reason to de-mod you. I suspect there was more involved.

No. It's a good reason. Mods must stick to higher standards.

Then I assume the bickering wasn't just a one-time thing.

Well he kept goading me trying to get me to respond inappropriately. And succeeded. It's all laid out in In The Gentleperson's Guide to Forum Spies:

Emotionalize, Antagonize, and Goad Opponents. If you can't do anything else, chide and taunt your opponents and draw them into emotional responses which will tend to make them look foolish and overly motivated, and generally render their material somewhat less coherent.

That's how flytape got me removed, by deliberately attacking, making me angry so I responded in kind. Baad Alllie.

Was he also a mod at the time?

No.

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Can you point me to a post or comment to backup your opinion?

Yeah she has called me a shill on multiple occasions, one time which actually factored into her being removed as a mod.

Surely I called you worse than that!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wBIC8JTQMMQ

Her feud with Flytape is unbecoming to say the least.

Yes. Flytape is MR, which is my objection to him, and brigading is their thing.

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It's the sub for men who hate women. Sort of a version of /r/niggers or /r/whitepower but with women as the target.

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Ah. So you're one of them.

I'll remember.

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MR slime. There is no women's entitlement culture. And only men who hate the idea of women having equal rights and opportunities think so.

First step, remove solidwhetstone. I'm sorry, but a large portion of subscribers here hate his guts and want him gone. He's always going to be a focus of contention and a disruptive influence.

Second step, elect to mod status contributors to this sub who are well known, have long posting records, and are active.

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absolutely.

You know none of what you just said is true. I didn't conspire with them, and I haven't banned anyone for being critical of me. Repeating it over and over again simply won't make it true.

Even if none of what we say is true you're still an extremely negative component of this sub whether you like it or not, i'm sick of your name and mod status derailing constructive conversation and discussion.

So seriously step down man, no hard feelings, we just want you gone. You made your mistakes and NOTHING you can do will ever restore this communities faith in you as a mod. I personally could careless about all the details of the situation, the bottom line is YOU fucked up and you need to man up and do what the community is asking of you.

Yes, you have. You were on quite a ban roll earlier.

Can you identify one such person who /u/solidwhetstone banned?

Can you identify one person who has a solid track record with this sub who doesn't want /u/solidwhetstone removed as a mod?

http://imgur.com/hJtqCqc

?

there are plenty of people who think this whole ordeal is absolutely ridiculous and stand by /u/solidwhetstone

/u/fivesensesarereal /u/assuredlyathrowaway

He banned Amos_Quitos because conspiratard trolls (starting with BipolarBear) brought an allegedly "racist" comment to his attention (that totally wasn't). But this decision was overturned.

Similar things were said about 9000sins. There was even an instance where a long-time inactive mod (who outranked everyone but illuminatedwax) logged in to see what had become of the place and fired all the mods. 9000sins was reinstated at the bottom of the ranking (below automoderator and uncensorship), he's now inched his way back up to 4th listed mod. And yet... the rules... almost all of them, but especially rule 10, were written almost exclusively by 9000sins. After that mass firing, he became less of a drama showboat. I can't help wondering what was said to him in the aftermath of that by the likes of illuminatedwax and EnglishMunichFan that got him to finally accept his position as "not the boss of this place".

Anyway, my point here is: overzealous mods aren't going to go away. There's still one waiting in the wings for his chance to rule the day once again.

yes the ridiculous notion of a mod writing 'rules' to support his own idea of what speech should look like then acting like his hands are tied by the rules is ridiculous.

Vote in somebody who will do that once they're a mod with seniority over /u/solidwhetstone, why don't you?

Yeah, I figure if he's still here in a few days Im just going to unsubscribe and spend more time on altnews.

Or you could join r/conspirators

Oh sweet.

Here here!!

i second this

a large portion of subscribers here hate his guts and want him gone

Don't confuse vocal with large please. This is what my inbox looks like: http://imgur.com/hJtqCqc

Just because we didn't send you a PM doesn't mean we don't want you gone. Believe it or not, most of us are decent people who don't wish you any malice.

But to say that a large portion don't want you gone is simply wrong. Top posts against you have been overwhelming these last few days.

I'd say a majority want you gone. If thats what this sub wants then why not just step down and be a subscriber like the rest of us?

But then he couldn't file his reports to the Jew-obsessed /r/BraveryJerk! (only half sarcastic)

What about the number of upvotes this kind of post calling for your removal have received?

Let's see the names of those who support you. Blacking them out like that makes it seem as if you're hiding something. I'm gonna guess they're from /r/conspiratard. Transparency now.

edit: bad spelling

So your friends from conspiratard came to support you

As you can see in the messages- there are a number of people from either subreddit and some that subscribe to both. Things are not always so black and white.

Sure thing, boss. Whatever you say

We can't see that because you've hidden their usernames.

There's no confusion here bud, unfortunately you're the only one confused. I've personally watched every well known poster in this sub speak out against you and ask numerous times for you to step down as a mod.

Maybe you're getting the words from your Pancake loving friends confused with that of your community. Don't get it confused, a large majority of r/conspiracy want you gone.

A bunch of /r/conspiratard trolls giving you pats on the back? And this is supposed to prove, what, exactly?

That you're a beloved mod who the people of THIS subreddit don't want to lose? What UTTER NONSENSE.

All this shows is that you are seen as some sort of great hero by the trolls at r/conspiratard, presumably for trying to further fill this sub with their garbage spam, disinfo and personal attacks.

Nobody cares, you have zero credibility. Step down.

I'm another who wishes you no ill will but I do understand the calls to step down. You just cause too much turmoil to be effective or appear fair.

Honestly I don't understand why your desire to mod is so strong here. You seem to just be torturing yourself and the large mob who hates you.

Edit: Noticed you stepped down. Once again, no I'll will but I think you made the right call.

Wow. That actually looks organized.

edit to possibly address the downvoters: organized as in these are all non-users of this subreddit who followed the many links from various "drama" and anti-inquirty subreddits, or more specifically some comment somewhere suggesting that everyone PM solid with support).

I would bet that the vast majority of those users never participate here and/or are "r|conspiratards".

/u/solidwhetstone needs to go.

I'll basically repeat what I've been saying over the past few days. What we need from new mods more than anything is to remove the /r/conspiratard trolls.

Due to the influence of /r/conspiratard here any objective reading of what needs to be done to improve /r/conspiracy is obfuscated. Discussions are tainted with phony posts and unbalanced voting patterns. One can stroll over to /r/conspiratard and see that their frontpage is a majority of posts regarding /r/conspiracy, and how they even brag about trolling users here with their sockpuppet accounts.

/u/solidwhetstone unfortunately seems to have encouraged this infiltration. What I'm hearing from this post is that he will, under no circumstances be removed. This seems to be a mistake given the extent of his unconscious ignorance(or worse, his conscious approval) of this infiltration.

I would like to take on a moderation position for the purpose of removing the troll infestation. I spend a few hours everyday on Reddit after work that I would dedicate this time to the removal of /r/conspiratards. This will greatly improve /r/conspiracy in all aspects and should be the foremost action for new moderators. I can also say there is no "good ole boys" club or "thin blue line" with me. I will not hesitate to hold other moderators accountable in front of this community.

Edit: Mission Complete

Over the past few days I've had the pleasure of being commissioned for a job that was simple enough: the forcing from power of /u/solidwhetstone. This has been a major success. The game was basic, to create multiple accounts to influence and hijack the narrative against /u/solidwhetstone.

We radicalize the user base to achieve two ends: splinter the subreddit into smaller, private subreddits, and create enough discord to both remove solidwhetstone and become open to new, Israel-friendly moderators with pressure from /r/conspiratard. It is too late to stop this.

The truth is, its always easy to turn you against yourselves. The end result is always the same in these things: You either end up in our control or you break up into seperate groups with little influence. The fix is in, gentlemen. Shalom.

Great post and I fully agree. We need moderators that will police the trolls and get rid of them.

That alone would do a TON to vastly improving the subreddit.

Well, according to this post GlenBaskerville was engaging in "Operation Stonecutter" and was purposely dividing the site.

He claimed he was involved in an operation to divide the community and hijack the opposition to solidwhetstone to so people would go to different subs, etc.

It can't tell if he had his account hijacked or if he was actually engaging in this operation or if he was feigning this as a joke.

Curious.

Very weird. Especially the choice of bolded letters in their 'Edit:' above. "I ... a m ... solidwhetstone".

This mod came from the circlejerk community. They may have been trolling all along.

edit: I doubt it though

Here, here.

I nominate you based on this comment (and others like it) alone.

If not, I would like to see any prospective mod address this comment.

You got hundreds of upvotes for similar comments to this before and I looked earlier today and it seemed like you were heading for way more than the 14 upvotes I see now. I basically don't trust the voting process . . . it's too easy to be gamed. Anyone good is going to get down voted to hell by the troll brigade so we shouldn't go by votes alone.

I nominate he who speaks truth. You have my vote.

I'd be happy to help. I'm shit with CSS and everything but I hang out here a lot. I think that's half the battle is knowing your community.

/u/axolotl_peyotl is another great recommendation. /u/mrssippy and /u/alllie are great contributors

/u/scoled321

/u/three_letter_agency would be another very intelligent and insightful person for the job but Tim probably doesn't have the time right now.

/u/danxmason

Just a few off the top of my head!

/u/axolotl_peyotl is good

so is /u/no1113

I knew I forgot someone. Thanks.

I support /u/no1113 as well. There are very few names I recognize, but him and /u/mr_dong are two of them

All of these have my blessing.

I'm very happy that the mods are doing this. It's extremely appreciated!

EDIT: Would like to add /u/WideAwakeNWO, /u/SovereignMan, and /u/salvia_d to that list. I have a hard time deciding though, they're all great.

I have to put a vote in for /u/SovereignMan.

All of them are fantastic recommendations!

Together with you obviously sir.

All good suggestions.

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Just saying it's kind weird you guys come here and post for free.

I was never a big believer that this sub was polluted with paid shills, but it is more than a little weird that people that hate the sub so much also, apparently, enjoy spending time here. Sadists, bullies, lovers of schadenfreude? I don't know.

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I see your point. I do think there's a personality type that gets personally upset by the idea that Big Brother doesn't have their best interests at heart. They find that an affront to their safe idea of the world and then take glee in combating suggestions to the contrary. I really don't know, though.

This is pretty common. Ever heard of the stern fan network? It's the biggest Howard Stern fan site and it's full of people hating on it. It's a pretty normal human phenomenon.

There was another radio show I used to listen to and these guys got upset at the host and they would literally transcribe every show he did and report him to the FCC, contact his wife and business partners, the county he lived in etc. These people spent hours upon hours creating twitter pages and blogs about how much they hated the show that they spent every waking minute listening to.

That's equally difficult for me to comprehend or respect. It's deriving pleasure through hatred.

Yeah and it's unfortunately a human trait. Usually in damaged individuals. I've experienced it in some mild ways myself and it is unsettling.

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I enjoy debunking the random unsourced often fabricated claims fringe conspiracy blogs that are posted here makes.

Fair enough. What about debunking do you find pleasurable?

EDIT- I think your presence here goes into the schadenfreude category. Pleasure derived at the misfortune of others- in this case those misfortunate enough to believe unsourced or fabricated claims. You derive joy pointing this out to them. Shameful joy.

And the random unsourced antisemitism

Do you require citations for your antisemitism?

I would be happy to volunteer.

I'm always here, I know a substantial amount about how reddit inc and her factions tend to work, and I'm an asshole when it comes to protecting the free flow of information.

I have some references if you'd like to see them, and I have some experience modding subs such as /r/altnewz/.

I would be applying with the aim of protecting the free flow of information on this sub at all costs. I do, however, believe that spam and trolls should be regulated.

No banning posts about meta reddit censorship. No banning users if you want to insult the mods. Automod will never be trained to remove a user's posts and or comments. Automod will never be targeted to remove key words.

I will also ban anyone who attempts to brigade this sub.

*Edit: Added some details about why I would like to help protect this community.

Can vouch; /u/assuredlyathrowaway is awesome

+1 for me as well.

Same. Hes good

I'm would be happy to volunteer.

Not with grammar like that!

The holidays may have made me a bit lackadaisical, but I can always count on reddit to put me back in line

The holidays may have made me a bit lackadaisical

Holiday Hangovers tend to do that to a person.

"The new moderators will be placed above /u/solidwhetstone in the mod team list at his request."

What does this even mean? He gets to pick who out ranks him? Does that type of policy work in any setting you know of?

He needs to step down. This is a mockery of the courts and we demand justice.

This is a mockery of the courts

What? A mob demanding him to step down doesn't seem like a court, I'll bet you don't even have novelty-sized hammers.

What that means is that /u/solidwhetstone specifically requested that the new mods be placed above him in rank.

If thats not an declaration of stepping down idk what is.

What that means is that /u/solidwhetstone specifically requested that the new mods be placed above him in rank.

If thats not an declaration of stepping down idk what is.

He needs to step down from the mod team. Not from his rank in the mod team

I don't think you understand. As of right now he is the bottom mod, any mod right now has the power to remove him. Now they're electing new blood into the mod team in the mist of this outrage.

No doubt one of the first acts of the new mods will be to remove whetstone. I can't see it happening any other way. He pretty much just asked for someone to be elected to fire him.

No doubt one of the first acts of the new mods will be to remove whetstone. I can't see it happening any other way. He pretty much just asked for someone to be elected to fire him.

Why doesn't he just remove himself? Why this farce? If you really think anyone is going to fire solidwhetstone then you're dreaming

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And getting petted for it by the trolls from r/conspiratard

I think so. Heck, people are being nominated right now to do that very thing.

I think the reason whetstone isn't removing himself is because in his eye he still thinks he hasn't done anything wrong. If he were to step down that would be admitting that he was wrong. But if someone were elected and fired him from the mod position, then it would be out of his hands if you will. He keeps his integrity, and is removed from the mod list, which makes the subreddit happy.

Like i said, he he were to step down he would be admitting he was wrong, which he doesn't think he was. But if it were the decision of someone superior to him saying something like "your antics are hurting the community", then he can comply on that basis of someone above him being in charge.

I think the reason whetstone isn't removing himself is because in his eye he still thinks he hasn't done anything wrong. If he were to step down that would be admitting that he was wrong. If he's delusional that excuse could maybe fly. This isn't North Korea. This isn't complicated in any way. People have explained in detail just what exactly he did wrong and why he needs to go. All this political pussyfooting is a slap in the face of the whole community and what it tells us loud and clear is the rest of the mods are in on it too and part of the same problem, because by your own line of reasoning if one of the existing mods thought solidwhetstone did wrong and needed to go, they would have removed him already.

Following your very own string of excuses to their logical conclusion the whole entire r/conspiracy mod team, everybody on the list today, needs to go!

Still has the power to ban and remove posts with a clear and demonstrated conflict of interest.

actually stepping down.

De-modding himself would be "stepping down", anything else is just theater.

1. /u/Flytape (I know he left on his own accord, still want him to know he's missed.)

2. /u/Orangutan

3. /u/axolotl_peyotl

4. /u/rawveggies (very knowledgeable, good moderator ex: /r/PropagandaPosters)

5. /u/Three_Letter_Agency

6. /u/SovereignMan

7. /u/go1dfish (anti-censorship advocate)

8. /u/avengingturnip

9. /u/richmomz

10. /u/AssuredlyAThrowAway

I would have said /u/LeadHelmetsBlockELF but they mysteriously deleted their account after being harassed and threatened by psychopaths because they posted this...

I'd like to mod too. :)

http://www.reddit.com/r/HailCorporate/about/moderators/

http://www.reddit.com/r/MilitaryConspiracy/about/moderators/

http://www.reddit.com/r/Heavymind/about/moderators/

http://www.reddit.com/r/JesseVentura/about/moderators/

I can't believe leadhelmetsblockelf is gone. If you're out there let us know your new alt via PMs.

Also, I support /u/KingContext 100% for mod.

leadhelmetblockelf is/was a fantastic poster. Those threats he got were very creepy and threatening. Dude, I hope you come back.

It appears that the users who sent him the threats have still yet to be shadow-banned.

I'm not surprised.

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Tons of them were rightfully banned for rule violations when /u/Flytape was mod here. Not sure about since he left.

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A few of them are quite good at skirting the rules.

Rawveggies won't stand up against the right.

The "right"? Can you clarify?

Everything is political with her. She means "evil conservatives".

LeadhelmetsblockELF is gone? :(

I strongly oppose Flytape as a mod. Flytape believes in activist mods using their special powers to mold the subreddit as they see fit. He thinks a top priority for /r/conspiracy mods is to appease critics from other subreddits.

Moderators should not be community leaders. They should be janitors.

He thinks a top priority for /r/conspiracy mods is to appease critics from other subreddits.

News to me. Care to explain?

Flytape sticky posted the following:

http://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/1q4w3y/mod_from_rchangemyview_here_wanting_to_clear_some/

It's a moderator of a different subreddit trying to clear up his and his subreddit's reputation among /r/conspiracy readers.

I don't like the sticky post power to begin with, but if it must exist it should be used only for important moderator announcements concerning this subreddit. It should not be a special power gifted to moderators to promote whatever cause they believe in.

The following comment most directly reflects my claim that he wants to appease critics from other subreddits:

http://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/1q4w3y/mod_from_rchangemyview_here_wanting_to_clear_some/cd9w6jd

That's not "appeasing critics from other subreddits". He was trying to clear up a legitimate misunderstanding that a lot of users here were having. The mods of /r/changemyview did nothing wrong and Flytape was only trying to clarify that for those who were mad at the wrong people. The mods of /r/BestOf are the thought-police cowards.

Commendable.

Not at all. He used the sticky post power.

I don't want moderators who are superheros righting wrongs and saving the day. If an ordinary user cannot use the sticky post power, moderators should be very reluctant to use it, and only for the most pressing of matters of benefit to this community.

Becoming a moderator should not make one a power user.

That is one of the best examples of using sticky that I've seen anywhere so far. It likely stopped a lot of people from misinterpreting what was going on.

Speaking of that, I see that he replied to you then and basically said exactly what I just did. Are you refusing to acknowledge that r/changemyview mods were not being critical of this sub whatsoever?

The quality of his cause is not the question.

The question is the role of moderators. Apparently you support activist moderators, pushing their own agenda. In my opinion the role of moderators should be minimal.

Clearly we have a difference of opinion, but that's okay.

You've moved the goalpost pretty far from "appeasing critics of this subreddit". It's not "pushing an agenda" to try and stop a virtual mob from tarring and feathering innocent people.

The sticky is a tool and we disagree about the validity of its use in this case.

You've moved the goalpost pretty far from "appeasing critics of this subreddit".

What?

A coward would have sat back and done nothing at all. And what would that have accomplished? Nothing at all. It would have just been another convenient excuse for the haters to point at and say "oh look at conspiracy on the witch hunt again, disrupting reddit and blah blah blah"

Here he's worried about "haters" accusing /r/conspiracy of witch hunts and disrupting reddit. It's pretty clear these "haters" are outsiders. That's who he wants to appease. He wants to "clean up" /r/conspiracy and make concessions in hopes that outsiders will stop hating us. No thanks.

It's not "pushing an agenda" to try and stop a virtual mob from tarring and feathering innocent people.

The (alleged) mob was not threatening /r/conspiracy. If our mods are protecting anyone, it should be us.

If you don't like the phrase "pushing an agenda" perhaps a different phrase would be better. But if you or I had our own just causes we would not have the same tools available to us.

What?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moving_the_goalposts

I think I see where you are coming from. If I were mod I would feel morally obligated to try and stop innocent people from being harassed because of simple confusion. I would also be aware that allowing it to continue unhindered would not only reflect badly on the users you would have me protect, it would further stigmatize this subreddit in general, and in this rare case, legitimately.

...I honestly think you're just kind of jealous of mods ability to sticky their self-posts. ;)

I'll come back now if the community will have me.

how about no?

How about conspiratard linked to this. No surprise.

I support flytape coming back.

as does /u/letsownthenwo

Good to know.

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As much as I'd like to see him gone, please don't game the upvote/downvote system by treating it as a petition.

Keep one "Solidwhetstone must go" post in the top of the sub until he does. Thats not a bad idea, right? I mean. Can't just let this go.

you got my vote!

who was it?

Why did you delete that? If it doesn't belong here then create us another sticky post and we'll take it there. Blanket deletes only infuriate us more.

The comment was actively calling for votes.

This is in violation of reddits overall rules that they require moderators to enforce.

Thank you for answering the first part. Please don't deflect. What about the second part?

I'm not a mod here. But I saw the comment before it was removed.

Well you sound so official :) I knew what the damn thing said and you only answered the crappy part anyways.

Go1dfish is one of the most knowledgeable users/mods on reddit. He runs and programmed /r/moderationlog, works on POLITIC and uncensorship, fighting for reddit transparency for years.

I'll volunteer; but I'm probably not the traditional mod you're looking for.

I can help with software/bots/direction/philosophy/css etc...

I don't really have much time to spend actively policing the mod queue (and don't really like removing much in general); but I do browse reddit frequently and will remove bad things that I encounter in my normal browsing.

/r/conspiracy is the biggest relatively unmoderated (other than spam removal) political/news subreddit around.

The name is IMO unfortunate because of the connotations it brings with it; but given how the largest sub-reddits have behaved lately we have to take what we can get.

I don't consider myself a conspiracy theorist; but I do value unsuppressed discussion forums.

To me it doesn't even matter who did 9/11. The bigger travesty was everything that disaster has been used to justify since.

I'm probably not the traditional mod you're looking for.

Don't sell yourself short.

can help with software/bots direction/philosophy etc...

We've never had any issues with your posts/comments and we will possibly need a mod with similar skills.

Don't sell yourself short.

Not short, just different.

I think good subs need mods of all types; and that division of labor is a good concept in general.

Anyone who has a personal rule barring them from /r/politics has my vote!

Still in effect as far as I know; or at least I'm still banned from the sub.

http://www.reddit.com/r/PoliticalModeration/comments/ttjn4/rpoliticalmoderation_is_denied_sidebar_listing_in/

I've been banned a couple times, that's why my current user profile is only a year and a half old. I was a frequent contributor and commentor until DavidReiss666 banned me twice.

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Agree.

You've got my vote.

disaster

Calling 9/11 a "disaster" tells me you have a long way to go. We need those who are up to speed on major events.

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You don't know him.

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Quite a few, myself included. He has an impressive resume.

I do. They are solid.

(never noticed you here though, incidentally)

I never claimed to post here often.

But my current karma count here is:

Link: 962 Comment: 769

I spend most of my reddit time these days building out /r/POLITIC and /r/ModerationLog and evangelizing /r/uncensorship

Recruit replacements, not additions. Re-instate all banned accounts from the last two weeks with a warning. This is as positive as I can be on the topic.

So will the new mods be allowed to remove solidwetstone the moment they start?

Honestly, check out /u/Orangutan 's profile.

Absolutely RELENTLESS. I know him personally.

Six-Year club, 562,442 link karma and 25,404 comment karma

If you need to contact him, let me know.

Shit, another 911blogger mod. Just what we need. NO!

Edit: Both /u/Orangutan and /u/9-11-2001 are mods from the shill site 911 blogger. Making them mods here would be a disaster for this sub. See this to learn why.

I wanted to echo some other nominations; /u/axolotl_peyotl, , /u/Three_Letter_Agency (wherever he is), /u/Orangutan, /u/KingContext, /u/GrippinThaGrain, /u/salvia_d and /u/go1dfish

I also want to nominate /u/sidewalkchalked, /u/metapunditedgy, /u/somekindofmutant, /u/nordite, and /u/99red.

Yes! /u/somekindofmutant ! I haven't seen him in a while!

Seconded /u/metapunditedgy.

Since my question remains unanswered in other threads, i'll ask it here too:

WHY is /r/conspiratard allowed to exist?

Why should it not be allowed to exist?

Exactly.

Because the page hasn't violated any reddit t&c.

A sub dedicated to sabotaging and infiltrating another sub isn't against the ToS?

Coulda fooled me

Report the page by all means but i don't have any power over which subs get removed.

Fair enough, thanks for responding.

Now, why do YOU think /r/conspiratard should be allowed to exist?

I've never given it much thought to be honest. People are entitled to their own opinions i suppose. I don't go there either, so the page is of little concern to me.

That's strange, seeing as you're a moderator of this community, and you don't really care about the existence of a sub created for the purpose of attacking your community.

If I were a moderator here, that would probably be pretty high on my list of concerns.

(I have zero desire to become a moderator. Just putting that out there.)

And what action specifically would you take, were you to be a mod.

Contact my boss mod?

I have no idea what mods are and aren't capable of

How many tiers of admin/mod positions are there?

I'm not sure I follow. No mods of this sub have any authority over that sub, the mods there, etc.

So what would you have the mod team here do?

Contact a reddit-wide mod squad? Don't you guys ever get mail from up above?

For example: how did /r/ niggers get banned? And by whom?

Admins did that, and unless a sub violates reddit t&c, they won't do anything. Also, mods have no more voice with admins than you. What have you done about it, other than complain?

What's the difference between /r/niggers and /r/conspiratard when it comes to advocacy of bigotry? They are both predicated on lobbing bigoted slurs and hate speech at people.

Admins have a blatant double-standard when it comes to this subreddit.

And I'm starting to think some of the mods here are in on it.

Why would you think that?

What did the admins tell you when you contacted them with your concerns?

I'm sure you know you have a voice in this too, and are doing all you can.

I do know. So far admins have remained unresponsive. I've just made another attempt a few hours ago actually.

Going to start contacting anti-bigotry groups like http://r-word.org/, http://www.specialolympics.org/, http://www.bestbuddies.org/ if I continue to be ignored about why advocating one form of hatred and bigotry on their website is acceptable and another isn't.

That's a good angle to play. Nice.

Maybe Mr. Cooper would even like another swipe. ;)

I attempted to come to you for help, but you really don't give a fuck.

No, you came here to ignorantly tell mods what they ought to be doing, knowing nothing about the capabilities (or the lack of capabilities) given to moderators.

Now that you have a little more insight into what they can/can not do, and see that they're in fact quite powerless, you're playing it as though it is I who does not give a fuck.

I do give a fuck, and unlike you, before I go criticizing the mods I make sure I have something constructive to suggest, and actually know a little about the powers they do/do not have. That way I'm not just one more ignorant fuck with a pitchfork and no clue.

I believe it's pretty obvious he is saying he would like the mods here to get further clarification from reddit admins about why that sub is allowed to exist and the potential to have it banned. I doubt it would be effective but it's pretty clear that's what he is getting at.

Because it has the full support of reddit inc. probably.

Neither did /r/Niggers, yet it was banned for bigotry, so the story goes.

Double-standards. Bigoted hate-groups have no reason to exist on reddit according to the past actions of admins. The "tard" slur gang is unambiguous in its hate speech agenda.

No no. Only subs that hurt the stock valuation of reddit inc have to go for rule violations. That's the forumla for sucess at reddit inc!

Contact this organization and ask them to petition both reddit and the MSM to put the pressure on:

http://www.r-word.org/

I have a feeling the squeaky wheel gets the reddit grease.

Did you contact the admins?

Might want to add /r/pcmasterrace to your analogies too! They were banned for pestering console gamers.

...the squeaky wheel gets the reddit grease.

Careful now! You could be banned from r/news and r/restorethefourth for that!

While there certainly are legitimate reasons to ban subreddits, I happen to have glanced into the /r/pcmasterrace debacle a little and agree with everyone (including the admins obviously) that they overstepped their authority in that situation.

That's not the best analogy to include because what happened there isn't culturally shunned and stigmatized like bigotry, rape glorification and pictures of young or unaware women, which admins here have set a clear precedent for.

That's a good point re: pcmasterrace

Except it got unbanned.

Only after they agreed to make major changes.

Something that conspiratard has never been asked to do.

What did the admins say when you asked them?

Because surely you know the mods here have zero say over what other subs are allowed to exist, I hope.

So far admins have remained unresponsive to my questions about this. I've just made another attempt a few hours ago actually.

Going to start contacting anti-bigotry groups like http://r-word.org/, http://www.specialolympics.org/, http://www.bestbuddies.org/ if I continue to be ignored about why advocating one form of hatred and bigotry on their website is acceptable and another isn't.

(re-commenting here for visibility)

Me gusta your plan.

Now THAT is some impressive concern trolling.

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It's a pity you do not have any Karma, unlikely you are suitable for a mod position at this time. You could be a valuable resource for the conspiracy page. All i can say is stick around and make some posts if you can. Build up your profile a bit more and who knows what could happen.

Thank you for expressing an interest in the page

Was just about to write something similar. /u/9-11-2001, your field is incredible. You can contribute to this subreddit way more than being a mod, and I feel that the mod duty could even hinder your interaction here.

I know that many users would appreciate if you used /r/conspiracy more frequently.

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I getcha, you shouldn't be preaching to the choir anyway.

I agree that more "truth torpedoes" are needed. The most recent one I saw which I appreciated greatly was The Onion's Ho, ho, ho!. I found it absolutely genius, and also very encouraging that there are those in all facets of media that try their best to poke the dragon. You guys have done an excellent job on 911Blogger as well.

Cheers.

911blogger is absolutely fantastic. I cannot take much credit for it as I became an admin in early 2011 after most of the foundation was set, but I am glad to be apart of it!

Cheers

Considering there's nothing to judge me by, I completely understand, as Trust is #1. I will continue to contribute here on reddit as a whole and ABOVE ALL provide sourced information in discussions.

Thank you for your prompt reply.

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Being from the blatantly infiltrated 911blogger eliminates you from consideration, in my view. Especially if you're Victoria Ashley.

http://redactednews.blogspot.com/2010/10/911bloggercom-accused-is-leading-911.html

Edit: for those who don't have time to go to the link, 911blogger has systematically banned all supporters of Pilots for Truth and Citizen Investigation Team, as well as anyone with an account at WTCdemolition. They forbid discussion of no plane theories and virtually forbid criticism of Israel.

If I see a post from 9-11-2001 here, I will know what to expect.

I'm mainly a mod for the FB page, and no I'm not Victoria.

Citizen Investigation Team (CIT) created some drama at 9/11 blogger with their eye witness pentagon claims. The pentagon theories never go to well amongst any groups because there's so much misinformation, confusion, and lack of evidence. We all can agree though the FBI/DoD should just release the dozens of tapes so everyone can see what hit it. I believe CIT kept claiming the plane flew over the building without legitimate proof...

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without legitimate proof...

Fifteen eyewitnesses isn't proof enough for you?

Is this bullshit really what we need? We should be praising anyone who is willing to mention the words "nine-eleven".

No, here at r/conspiracy, I believe we can set the bar a bit higher than that. Especially if someone is already proven to be a shill.

I couldn't believe this username was available lol

I can't, either. Nice pick.

One goal we should keep in mind is to ban accounts that consistently make absurd and racist comments. The whole anti-semitic thing hurts our reputation as a whole and we need to enforce sidebar rule #1. Any comments that do not add to the conversation and just exist need to be deleted. For example, "The Jews are to blame for this problem," should be deemed unnecessary to the discussion and and further actions should be taken to that user's account.

I do consider myself an anti-Zionist, but by no means am I racist against the Jewish people as a whole. I think there needs to be a distinction made about the two. I don't think we should impose censorship against people's opinion, but let's leave the racist comments on /pol.

We need a mod(s) that take this issue seriously.

I'll throw my hat in the ring. I'd be glad to contribute to the community.

Is bumblingmumbling still around?

Think he was banned by the admins.

what happen to flytape? he stepped down as well?

I asked him that a few days ago and got this disappointing reply:

from Flytape [+12] via /r/conspiracy/ sent 2 days ago

You know...

I'm a critic of conspiracy, I don't believe 95% of the shit posted here.

I do believe that people have a right to talk about anything without being ridiculed about it. This place (conspiracy) is like a dog that's been beat its whole life, it will never trust a new master. It is conditioned to lash out at anything that threatens its little corner of the world and the slightest provocation will bring out its full wrath.

But like a dog that's been beaten its whole life, biting the hand of its new master will likely been the cause of its ruin.

shit.. would of never guessed he felt that way.

Yeah, me too. I got the sads after reading that.

http://www.reddit.com/r/AskFlytape/comments/1rq1d4/auribus_teneo_lupum/

ahh, not so bad when put into context. I guess i don't blame him

That's a damn shame. Do we know why?

On another note, I would like to thank you Dong for being the long standing backbone of this sub. Keep up the good work.

I'm sure he could appear under another name, if elected by acclamation. He gets my vote.

Many fine candidates here already.

All I can add is beware hidden agendas and double agents.

/Srsly

Do you have any modding experience or interest?

I have neither experience nor interest in being a mod.

I appreciate the value of those that mod objectively and justly, but it's not my cup of tea.

Exactly. And you get the automatic down votes for comments like this (which shouldn't get downvotes here), which tells me someone like you is legit.

I assume most of reddit is compromised so I have very little faith in this process.

Can someone explain the /u/solidwhetstone thing to me? I don't see what he did wrong.

He started a nice, friendly discussion with people who want r/conspiracy destroyed, asking them what they thought would be good for this sub. Some of the people he was talking with are known trolls in this sub, who have deliberately planted posts intended to drive away readers, or even get this sub in shit with the admins. They have engaged in vote rigging, and have posted here deliberate anti-Semitic posts of the most insulting, degrading kind. These are also people who think it is fun to make a sub devoted to jokes about the brutal killing of a young female activist, who was murdered by an Israeli while she was defending the rights of Palestinians.

When informed by people in this sub that it was a poor idea to pal up with known trolls, racists, Zionist shills, and enemies of the sub, he protested innocence and continued to hang around with the 'tards.

The concensus is that he is no longer to be trusted as a mod of this sub, and must resign his mod status. He refuses to do so. This has generated animosity that is unlikely to die away until he removes himself, or is removed by somebody else.

When informed by people in this sub that it was a poor idea to pal up with known trolls, racists, Zionist shills, and enemies of the sub, he protested innocence and continued to hang around with the 'tards.

...That's it? So because he stuck around in a generally very peaceable thread, trying to better this place, he's untrustworthy? This place is known for heavy racism and other things. These are problems with /r/conspiracy that need to be fixed.

I don't care who was in the thread; I don't care if they're trolls or "shills." He was trying to better this subreddit (and god knows it needs help) and did it honestly and without hostility. Then the people from /r/conspiracy get all up in arms about it? I don't get it.

I don't get it.

It's because you have no idea about the history between both subreddits, just like solidwhetstone.

Erm. Yeah, I do. I've spent quite a lot of time lurking in both.

Well, your lurking has obviously not been enough for you to understand the situation. It's also disrespectful to share your opinion when you admit to not being a contributor like many others here, who happen have been ridiculed by /r/tard.

Bottom line is, that place has no other reason to exist besides undermining this subreddit, which makes asking them for advice extremely disrespectful and moronic.

I do understand the situation. I don't just lurk, I also post, quite a bit. It is also not inherently disrespectful to put forward an opinion, regardless of my standing with either subreddit. Finally, /r/conspiratard doesn't exist specifically to undermine /r/conspiracy; it exists to bring a humorous (and oft rude) approach to conspiracies. Get over it. To pretend this sub is any more respectful than 'tard is is hilarious to me.

He started a nice, friendly discussion with people who want r/conspiracy destroyed

Why would we want to destroy a source of entertainment?

I'd love to mod. I moderate r/documentedtruth, and am active here.

I have you tagged as "awesome dude!". Don't remember why, but we must share some common interest. I obviously vouch for KonDon.

thanks bud. i try to be reasonable while not being one of these moron false skeptics

I'd be interested in a mod job here. I have enjoyed this community and the posts here since coming to Reddit, and think I could help stop some of the recent drama here by being firm on following posted rules here. I also have extensive knowledge in search engine optimization that may help others to find this sub from search engines. Thanks for considering me.

[tags] and a better policy for misleading titles

This is potentially a very volatile situation. If the will of the community is not diligent or adhered to, the front page will be loaded with infighting and distrust once again. Mods please respect the communities wishes, and r/conspiracy be smart in down voting any who seem disingenuous with their intentions.

Would it be disengenuous to nominate ones self? If not, id like to nominate myself if there is support from the community.

not interfere with content on the page.

I had a question about this line. Does it imply that active participation in discussions would not be allowed if recruited as a mod?

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I can vouch, straight up guy who has my vote and I've been here a long time.

I'm interested, what do I need to do?

Also, I would appreciate a Mod responding.

I would vote for you. I'm actually kind of surprised to see that you're interested though.

I am just tired of seeing everything going to hell.

I'm also a good guy and I will let everyone know if bullshit is happening behind the scenes.

I have pretty good credibility here on reddit and I'm an Eagle Scout in real life so taje that as you will but I consider myself trustworthy.

I'm an Eagle Scout in real life

LOL! That kind of makes sense actually. ;)

I mean hell, the reason I chose my username to be ShellOilNigeria was so I could raise awareness about Shell's Human Rughts Abuses in Nigeria.

If you need a mod that isn't scared of getting their hands dirty you can count on me to clean out the trash(cross posters and vote brigadders from /r/conspiratard and such).

I'd like to volunteer as a moderator for as long as it takes to improve various aspects of this subreddit's stylesheet. I have 2 things on my mind: 1, the new upvote/downvote arrows are very colorblind-unfriendly. 2, the stylesheet commits a cardinal sin of replacing reddit's signature typeface (Verdana) with a much less readable font (Arial).

I work with CSS professionally and I'm familiar with moderating large subreddits. I really have no desire for moderation power, and will voluntarily remove myself after upgrading the CSS.

I nominate /u/MrsSippy

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You are not the only one who is wondering where ownthenwo is.

I think you should add a bunch of different people for different reasons:

some that are popular, some that are not, and some that are new. Give them all the same power and see what happens.

You need to kill the cliques. This is how you do it. The mods should not be friends.

Please vote to un-ban my account /u/Doc---Hopper, and also vote to make it a moderator account please.

I'll look into it for you. Give me a day and i'll see what i can do. PM me tomorrow if i haven't got back to you.

Hey- just saw this, but already had PMed you from /u/Doc---Hopper account. Get back to me at that account when you can, as it is my main.

You've already got at least two others besides the one you want unbanned. Why do you need the banned one back so badly?

Hi. I'd like to be considered. I've been here for awhile and I really want to make sure that this sub remains an open platform for important discussions. Feel free to PM with any specific questions/requests, thanks

Does the position come with a script for xanax? It seems like a stressful position.

You can't use reddit gold to buy medicine, but since laughter is the best medicine this website has many subreddits designed to give that away for free.

Can I just say, after the past few days, the maturity of the comments here are a welcome relief!!!

I would put in some hours if needed.

I would love to do this. I promise I have zero allegiance to any nefarious group, or beneficent groups. I'm not a hothead, and I'm super tolerant of discussion. I don't put up with ad hominem attacks. Never modded, but I ran a couple of BBSes in the late 80s and early 90s.

I nominate ridestraight

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Then I nominate myself as well. I also love free speech. Doubt y'all would actually consider me though. I haven't been a mod of anything before, but I think it'd be neat.

Pick me! Pick me! I'm level headed and spend "a number of hours a week" on reddit. Plus I have +20 Bullshit Detection (+5 vitality and +6 speed, also) so I'm totally qualified. MUTTSHISFACE FOR MOD!!!

Someone make me some buttons.

I would volunteer. I don't know much about CSS but I'm a real truth seeker and /r/conspiracy is my go-to every time I come on reddit. I think I know what this sub needs...and if not, someone else can just boot me.

Regardless, the most important thing is that /u/solidwhetstone is demodded.

That axolotl guy has +27 votes by me, so I guess he is good poster, I would support his nomination.

I also nominate myself. I already own many subreddits and mod /r/governmentoppression so I have the knowledge, experience and good will to do it.

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No but we will demand sweat and tears from you.

Don't forget how you can contribute to /r/conspiracy yourself! Upvote content that are based on facts, and post information with quality sources to back up statements.

This will help /r/conspiracy to gain credibility again and provide quality discussions. Nobody else is going to stick up to our reputation, we will have to do it ourselves. Lurkers assemble! Participate!

I probably don't post enough in here for your tastes but I would throw my hat in the ring. Check my posting history if you like of course. I've also got experience running forums and modding a fairly large one. I don't have time for games or drama so that's my only hang-up. Either way, I hope this sub can get back on track.

I'm a fair and open person only interested in the truth, I visit daily for short periods so am willing to pitch in if needed.

I nominate myself. Although I don't submit content or offer much besides an inquiring mind.

I do have some time to help out, though.

How about /u/ConspiracyMomma

/u/letsownthenwo

Seconded.

Isn't that the fellow who always rabidly defends alex jones' insanity? no thanks.

you're thinking of /u/OWNtheNWO

Thanks.

Yea, I'm pretty sure that guy was literally one of Alex Jone's staff members. He had mostly posts linking to Infowars or affiliates of Infowars. But yea, not the same guy as /u/letsownthenwo, who appears to be banned or something.

Yea, I'm pretty sure that guy was literally one of Alex Jone's staff members

I've always felt the same.

Ahh that's who I was thinkin he was

Eh, right?

I'd love to contribute. http://www.youtube.com/user/TheStfpodcast?feature=watch

Can we make sure not to nominate some random account that isn't well-known... which (conspiratorially speaking) turns out to be a sock of some shill that waits a few weeks and then announces "Hey, I'm gonna make some big changes around here." And then suddenly we all love Obama and Jeb Bush.

That's how the shills work, usually.

I'll throw my hat into the proverbial ring. This is one of my most frequented subs, I have solid grasp on the world around me and am always willing to consider any idea/opinion no matter how “far fetched” it may seem. Even if I am not a moderator, any way I can better help our community on here is a win in my book.

I'm relatively new here but all I've seen so far is a bunch of in fighting so far. It's worse than a high schools girls locker room. I'd like to see headlines and different facts dealing with related conspiracies. Quick and easy to get to and lined up by perceived importance. As of right now there are better sites for me anyways. I don't care about mods but it seems if something doesn't change the bickering might run off new users as It has almost run me off.

I post here daily and I'm really for the cause. If there's any spots I'd be happy to donate my time

I'd be more than happy to. I ain't afraid to ban trolls or flag "the jews" spam.

When is the vote?

I want to be on IRC when this is done.

24 hours.

I'd like to nominate Orangutan who has a stellar posting history. http://www.reddit.com/user/Orangutan and http://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/search?q=orangutan&restrict_sr=on

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I've made some nice contributions if that's what we care about.

If elected, I promise to get to the truth of UFOs. To close the Fed. To make healthcare less affordable. To be the most opaque administration since the last one.

I will wildly ban people whose name I don't like or whose nostrils are the wrong size. Tax breaks for the left-handed.

I call for free speech (except the speech that disagrees with mine).

I will send drones to r/conspiratard.

Vote for me: running with scissors and tying knots in string theory for YOU!

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got my vote.

I would love to help out because I think this place is a great place for free speech.

Unless you ask questions in that-sub-that-must-not-be-named, right?

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"Freedom of speech is the political right to communicate one's opinions and ideas using one's body and property to anyone who is willing to receive them."

A community that monitors your behaviour on Reddit and can ban you for posting to other subreddits cannot be called a great place for free speech.

I'm happy to say that I'm back. I am now taking nods to become moderator. Please consider me, I will be the moderator voice the People of this subreddit want and need.

"Possibly miss judged" Can our own mod team not man up and say what u/solidwhetstone did was wrong? I nominate myself for mod team, If chosen, I will ALWAYS do what's best for the community, and that means: NO NEGOTIATIONS WITH TROLLS

Lowdownz4mod

That's odd, you called me "ban happy" and other bad things because I didn't negotiate with trolls.

When was this? Edit: no seriously when was this? If I ever called you ban happy it was not because I was upset you were banning conspiratard trolls, I guarantee it. And as I recall, the only arguments we ever got into were left-right paradigm debates.

Sorry man, I apologize.

I had you confused with someone with a similar username.

Do you know how much I respected that police chief or whatever that brought charges on his own shithead cop who smashed a guys head into the wall when booking him in jail? They should learn from that chief.

Rule #5: No cap locks.

That'll be my first rule change.

Shout away then!

/u/Lowdownz is solid and rational. Seconded.

I nominate /u/ziggurat93 he is so cool and has nice hair

I think a problem with this is that people will go up in arms for no good reason. They will say the new mod is biased and censors everything. Maybe do it on a temporary basis? I dont usually post comments and lurk more.

I would think it is a good idea to pick a mod from a different timezone from the others. I know on a lot of subs most of them are americans so content goes downhill for people in GMT.

I see lots of content repeated constantly. So maybe if we compile top posts of each month then put them in the side bar so instead of repeating the same old video anyone can look in the sidebar for the highlights of each month?

Can I vote for myself?

I would nominate /u/moparornocar. I think he has always conducted himself in a reasonable and polite manner, and I feel like he could compose himself in the mist of the reddit mob.

I have vouched for mopar before. Sure, him and i have had our share of bouts, but in the end he has always been able to be pretty respectable about it all. I can second mopar as a potential candidate, and would be pleased to see him considered by the mods, at least for a second interview.

I'd be more than happy to help.

I'm a moderator over at /r/treemusic, so i have experience as a mod.

I rarely post to /r/conspiracy, I'm hardly known on reddit at all, but I do lurk here daily.

I'd just like to see someone who is fair and for free thought.

I nominate myself to be a moderator. I would make the PERFECT mod for this sub.

Who better to moderate this group than someone who doesnt subscribe to the groupthink? The catholic church has (had) the Devil's Advocate. /r/Conspiracy has me.

• I wont organize a lynch mob against SolidWhetStone, which I know will piss off some of the more vocal members here, but that's too bad.

• Sock puppets will be banned. If they are found to be back with a new sock puppet after being banned, their IP will be blocked.

• Free speech will be allowed. Not just the comments that people agree with, but opposing viewpoints as well. If this is to be a free-flowing discussion, then both sides of the coin should feel welcomed to comment without fear of being banned because someone said something outside of the consensus. Obvious hate speech will result in a warning, followed by a ban.

• People will be strongly encouraged to follow the rules. If they do not, they will receive a warning. Subsequent violations will result in a ban.

by your definition you would be banned.

No, I can be civil. Honest.

bah, humbug !

I have some hours I can dedicate to keeping track of this place. I already come here often enough. I feel like this place and feel it is important as a foundation for future endeavors into freeing people of their limitations.

I nominate myself, been an active contributor for years and I care to keep the discussion honest but not lacking edge. I also know exactly who I would ban the first minute as a mod.

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I'll vote for you because I'd like to imagine you using those 3 inch heels to squash the trolls. Did I say a bad thing?

How about something different. Get a "red team" person - your very own devils advocate that won't just tow the line. Someone to challenge you from the inside. A "resident debunker", if you will. Otherwise, from the people nominated on here, you're just going to get more of the same.

Edit: And if this sounds like a crazy idea, maybe try it out for a month or so then go from there.

No. That's the last thing we need, our own NSA troll as a mod? No.

The kind of thinking in this sub is pretty diverse but the mod team doesn't reflect this. I was hoping this recruiting process would be a bit more inclusive, or at least test out the idea of being so.

The comment was actively calling for votes.

This is in violation of reddits overall rules that they require moderators to enforce.

what happen to flytape? he stepped down as well?

I'm sure he could appear under another name, if elected by acclamation. He gets my vote.

Together with you obviously sir.

The tenacity with some of them is way over the top, way too much for someone just trolling. IMHO You just can't explain away the veracity without thinking they are getting compensated. JIDF is my guess. Religious zealotry could also explain for this as well I guess.

Contact a reddit-wide mod squad? Don't you guys ever get mail from up above?

For example: how did /r/ niggers get banned? And by whom?

Surely I called you worse than that!

It appears that the users who sent him the threats have still yet to be shadow-banned.

I'm not surprised.

I meant that the critique on Griffin was long, didn't visit the other one.

I also thought the "no plane theory" involved the Twin Towers and not the pentagon. Your arguments are very compelling and worrisome. I wish /u/Orangutan or anyone from 911blogger would acknowledge these accusations and refute them if possible. As of now, I am keeping an open mind until I read more about it.

I believe it's pretty obvious he is saying he would like the mods here to get further clarification from reddit admins about why that sub is allowed to exist and the potential to have it banned. I doubt it would be effective but it's pretty clear that's what he is getting at.

Your arguments are very compelling and worrisome.

Thank you! It is all too rare in online forums for people to admit it when the other person has good points.

I wish /u/Orangutan or anyone from 911blogger would acknowledge these accusations and refute them if possible.

I can assure you that they are very much aware of this thread and probably discussing it right now and trying to figure out who I am and how to discredit me. /u/9-11-2001 (who claimed below to be a mod at blogger) will not be back anytime soon. He has no response other than that they are a fake 9-11 truth site that allows plenty of discussion of the WTC because that crime can never be pinned on anyone in particular. (They could always claim that freedom-hating Arabs got jobs on the cleaning crew.)

But a faked plane crash at the Pentagon can definitely be pinned on real live people who are enjoying the booty their participation in 9-11 earned them, and don't want to dragged through the streets by an angry mob any time soon. Hence the concerted effort to keep that fact under wraps.

Orangutan posts a lot. As do I. That doesn't mean everything I post is gospel but that I think it's "interesting".

Erm. Yeah, I do. I've spent quite a lot of time lurking in both.

You've moved the goalpost pretty far from "appeasing critics of this subreddit". It's not "pushing an agenda" to try and stop a virtual mob from tarring and feathering innocent people.

The sticky is a tool and we disagree about the validity of its use in this case.

That's a damn shame. Do we know why?

On another note, I would like to thank you Dong for being the long standing backbone of this sub. Keep up the good work.

I support flytape coming back.

as does /u/letsownthenwo

how about no?

Good to know.