A common 9/11 truth defense, is someone would have come forward as a whistle blower, but with far more people involved only one Snowden came forward to whistle on the NSA.

57  2013-12-30 by [deleted]

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No one in the NSA came out? William Binney came out and said this 12 years ago and no one believed him. Russ Tice came out and said it in 2004. Bill Cooper wrote that the NSA is spying on EVERY SINGLE electronic communication in his book "Behold a Pale Horse" from 1991.

Check this out: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4w4oyP6Eq6Y

Cooper was also killed for predicting 9/11, some say.

some say

Some say he was actually taken by aliens because he was simply too smart for planet earth.

Who has ever said that? What was the point of this asinine comment?

most of the comments in /r/conspiracy are against conspiracies...a little bit ..."strange"

Thomas Drake too, none of them got media though.

This is what makes me laugh here. Most of us in the tech sector were even talking about the room at the San Francisco AT&T switching facility where NSA actually listened from like 5-7 years pre-Snowden. Ever hear of Naris? That would be the company that produces the hardware in that special room and again, we all knew about this company and their creepy Israeli ties long before Snowden came out.

James Bamford is another good resource.

Exactly. That's why no one should act surprised when the REAL leaks come out. I can wait for Phil Schneider to be vindicated: http://youtu.be/Vf7vLXf5bNo?t=1m36s

Yep, which is why the Snowden story is part of something far more sinister. Mark my words, nigga. Everything pushed by the mainstream media is pushed for a reason.

You think they're priming everyone for the DUMB base disclosure? http://youtu.be/Vf7vLXf5bNo?t=1m36s

Not quite. James Corbett has talked a lot about whistleblowers pre-snowden. This one being 2009.

The reason Snowden got lots of attention is because The Guardian and Greenwald had much more influence than James Corbett.

Snowden is the one that got publicized.

Russ Tice said more and said it sooner.

Russ Tice on NSA political blackmail

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2013/06/20/bush-era-nsa-whistleblower-makes-most-explosive-allegations-yet-about-true-extent-of-govt-surveillance/

You are correct about 9/11 whistle blowers though.

Only a very few have come forward.

Snowden is the one that got publicized.

Publicized by an ill machine owned manipulated & controlled MSM.

Another reason for me to ? hope.

I did not buy his Christmas fear message of ignorantly over dramatized inflated BS. His Xmass exaggerations & continued soap opera drama inflates reality so that perceived reductions can be less or none. I am insulted that so many conspiracy types are buying snowdude on what is easily handed by an agent with sketchy job & military backgrounds.

He was going to become a Special Forces badass warpig hero for the Army Reserves, but his legs got broken, thus he could not fight to freedumb the Iraqi peoples. I look with suspicion @ all the mental impressions left by such a superman script provides to ones mind & I smell BS reeking to almost all my seeking.

To the types of employers he had, GED = dope +no college degree = nope to his job placement history & high security clearances.

IMO It is more plausible that snow dudes real scrubbed military & college degree info would expose his spooky real self. His youth images & background does not paint drop out type to me.

IMO dude is whistling a psyop tune of his non trustworthy toolers & ill seeding masters.

IMO His seriously questionable computer whiz hacker exotic dancer girlfriend "made for TV" special agent image is laughable & even his slacker stubble goatee look is likely playing a role. IMO this shit eating smirk of a clean cut lover of government feel reeks of a backstabbing ass kissing soldier agent in training is likely closer to his true root nature, combined with following the teat of mommy court clerk & daddy military officer. I grew up with people that had that look, as I am sure many have & all humans I know can change their looks but to this day their nature that is set as kids & young adults largely remains as the main driver. Teenage rebellion is not what we are seeing now, his shit eating smirk shows more of the true him IMO.

The only results I see are him & Greenwald are getting rich & famous.

Got results? NOPE! just milking it.

Fact is the eN-S-A is like a gang of secrets, some have left & talked shit, but none have been placed or taken seriously on the worlds stage. Gang members that leave even on peaceful terms & not ones that stole from the gangs & then talk too much shit tossing on their former gangs under the big top stage are neutralized. All the worlds stage, as in staged controlled release trickles, to keep sickles long over due, @ bay longer, by releasing slow non "ass to the fan" info that has led to no convictions or court ordered halting of ill non constitutional behaviors. I only see weak trickled info on the ill machines terms to lead the asleeple to drug abuse like tolerance & acceptance to more willingly take shit inward & outward, all thanks to Edward Snowjob? info dealer

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This nigga gets it. Pass the pizzo

One of the members of the 9/11 Commission publicky urged the case be reopened.

many have said it was hogtied, underfunded, too short and badly steered

Weren't there at least a couple other whistleblowers to come forward with information like this before Snowden? William Binney as an example?

Not trying to attack your point, because it is a good one. I always use the Manhattan Project as an example of people keeping secrets. Or Operation Paperclip. There's quite a few that only came to light with history actually.

The Manhattan Project is an excellent example. 100,000 grandmas and grandpas lived long, quiet lives without sharing their participation in the Manhattan Project with their closest loves ones.

and he had to goto london to find someone who would publish his shit, one painful drip at a time . . . . .

a simple search could lead to a lot less wasted time giving attention to crap like this.. tons of whistleblowers died. Not going to even bother linking the pages of videos/websites that come up with a simple search. edWARd sNOWden?

edWARd sNOWden?

Give me a fucking break.

BUbba-BOoEy

BUBOE? Obvious disinfo from a Black Death-infectee. /s

There are several 9/11 whistleblowers so that's a pretty piss poor defense in the first place.

Who? I have never seen anyone even remotely credible.

Sibel Edmonds.

This report determined that none of her claims can be refuted.

Refuted or substantiated?

Read the report.

I did. They said that her claims could not be substantiated.

Actually they said they can't be refuted and warranted a deeper investigation.

Had the FBI investigated the claims thoroughly, it would have found that many of Edmonds' allegations regarding the co-worker were supported by documentary evidence or other witnesses. Instead, the FBI seems to have discounted Edmonds' allegations, believing she was a disruptive influence and not credible, and

We concluded that Edmonds' allegations were at least a contributing factor in why the FBI terminated her services.

And the next line?

With regard to Edmonds' other allegations of misconduct, most were not supported by the evidence we reviewed.

Also

Our review also found that many - although not all - of Edmonds' allegations about the co-worker had some basis in fact.

Susan Lindauer, Barry Jennings, Thomas Drake, Sibel Edmonds, Richard Clark.

Exactly. That's why no one should act surprised when the REAL leaks come out. I can wait for Phil Schneider to be vindicated: http://youtu.be/Vf7vLXf5bNo?t=1m36s

I did. They said that her claims could not be substantiated.

Actually they said they can't be refuted and warranted a deeper investigation.

Had the FBI investigated the claims thoroughly, it would have found that many of Edmonds' allegations regarding the co-worker were supported by documentary evidence or other witnesses. Instead, the FBI seems to have discounted Edmonds' allegations, believing she was a disruptive influence and not credible, and

We concluded that Edmonds' allegations were at least a contributing factor in why the FBI terminated her services.