You showed them

Right?

It's like OP was trying to write dialogue from V For Vendetta.

Yes, actually, he did.

All of us who refuse to allow them to disuade us of our opinions are showing them.

We will not bend over and be passive corporate drones.

I don't give a FUCK about your superbowl, your fancy cars, your big mansions, or whatever frivolties you entice the money lovers with.

FUCK MONEY, I don't love it.

I love God, and I will always side with those who are being oppressed, those who are being unjustly persecuted, those who are meek and unable to defend themselves.

I WILL STAND UP AND DIE TO PROTECT MY FELLOW MAN.

What will YOU do?

Do your parents pay your internet bill with angst?

Do your parents pay your internet bill with angst?

Damn. Conspiracy is upvoting these teenage insults? That user is as likely to be a basement dweller as much as you are.

Conspiracy is upvoting these teenage insults?

Seems like a valid criticism.

basement dweller

Oh.

Yep. Notice how my teenage insult invalidated my point? Same goes for the other user's.

But the insult was my point.

The hypocrisy still exists.

ok

No, they use money from their jobs.

"Angst" is not a legal form of tender, sorry bro.

Jobs? So frivolous.

Colossians 3:23 - Whatever you do, work heartily, as for the Lord and not for men

2 Thessalonians 3:20 - For even when we were with you, we would give you this command: If anyone is not willing to work, let him not eat.

Acts 20:35 - In all things I have shown you that by working hard in this way we must help the weak and remember the words of the Lord Jesus, how he himself said, ‘It is more blessed to give than to receive.’”

Bibles cost money! Checkmate.

Write a strongly worded snippet online. Probably.

Really, being unable to change your mind is just going to imprison you in your own ignorance.

Of course, but I am able to change my mind, I just won't on certain things that I know to be true.

Just because I will never not believe in God doesn't mean I completely dismiss all the other theories like the space lizards, or the anunaki, or the retarded hundreds of gods who constantly fight each other myths, or any of those alternative theories.

I don't just dismiss them, I read up on them so I can think critically about them and their logic, if there is any.

As far as the anunaki thing goes, it makes no sense, because if you needed to mine gold for your planets atmosphere and you were so intelligent that you were able to traverse the galaxy in order to reach another planet to be mined for gold, you wouldn't upon arriving create mortal extremely prone to death and injury meat bags who don't listen to you and rebel against you, you would use machines that do exactly as they're programmed.

The theory just makes no sense when you analyze it rationally, shit, it makes less sense than the fucking space lizards controlling us with frequencies broadcast from the moon.

TL;DR - It is important to keep your mind open, but that doesn't mean you should believe everything you hear and can't take a firm stance on an issue.

I, uh, I never said anything about the origins of humanity or aliens.

I said you are embracing ignorance.

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If you believed there were monsters under the bed, would you say that sticking to that belief was strength of character or ignorance? If your child believed the same thing despite all your efforts to assure them otherwise, would you praise them for having strength of character, or pity them for their needless fear and kick yourself for being unable to alleviate that fear with truth?

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Nuh-uh! I have a force field that blocks sound logic and comprehension! waves hands like a mime

Your analogy totally makes me look like I don't know what I'm talking about but it doesn't matter because I'm not liiiisteniiiing LALALALALA! sticks fingers in ears

FTFY

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I already said this post bothers nobody. What kind of ego do you have to think that an angsty post on reddit is going to draw the ire of the government or its supporters? Myself and others here are just pointing out how stupid you are.

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Lol you have power? Lol okay buddy...

Yes. Everybody knows that feelings of inadequacy and powerlessness suck. Fortunately I, like most people, am not plagued by such feelings overmuch. These are sometimes signs of depression.

Interestingly, this is a common reason some people develop conspiracy thoeries in the first place. To rationalize their feelings of inadequacy and powerlessness.

But since everybody knows these feelings suck and experiences them from time to time, perhaps a more interesting question is; Never experiencing these feelings must be totally rad, huh?

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Awesome. You know, I had a feeling that it would indeed be totally rad, but its cool to hear soem first hand testimony.

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Ha. You are not worth the govt lurker's time.

I, on the other hand, am having a slow day at work and I'm bored.

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You are the entertainment.

...wait...

Did you just acknowledge that your post and this thread is a collossal turd? Did that just happen?

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It is. And you are proud of it. I'm sitting here saying, "Dude, its a turd, why are you acting like its your magnum opus of defiance?"

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Oh I get it. You are starved for attention. I'm glad I was able to help.

You are important. And special. Daddy loves you.

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You posted a cry of defiance in a forum full of people that are largly of a similar mind but directed at people that don't care about said forum. Its like standing up amongst a group of cats and yelling "all you dogs can go to hell!"

You are attention starved. Or were.

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Oh dear. I suppose I should be on my way then.

Do be careful with all that defiance you're swinging around. Don't want to crush anybody under the regimes you might topple.

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Don't pop a blood vessel flexing those internet muscles, tough guy.

Oh boy. I like you.

Please don't stop posting here.

Yes.

You must know exactly how that feels. After all isn't this post a declaration of you supposedly taking the power back?

but strength of character.

Also known as ignorance.

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So, following that line of reasoning... If you come to find out your convictions were unequivocally wrong, do you still stand up for your convictions anyways, for a false sense of character? Sure sounds like ignorance to me.

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Ad hominem much?

You still didn't answer my question. If a conviction you held was unequivocally proven wrong, would you still hold on to it out of spite to save character? If so, i'm not sure if willful ignorance or cognitive dissonance would be a better explanation of that mindset.

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LOL. The person being ridiculous is the one who can't fathom a situation where their conviction could be wrong, and since said person feels they cannot be wrong in their convictions, it would be cognitive dissonance for them to actually answer a question that would state otherwise.

Thanks for clearing that up for me bro, lol.

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Yes, believing the same thing on Wednesday as you did on Monday no matter what you learn on Tuesday is a wonderful trait. /s

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How delightfully condescending. I'm certain of more than a few things, but I'm also old enough to know that you can be wrong about things that you used to be certain about.

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You are a sad, ignorant little man. It is I who pity you. I'm just killing time, you are killing your brain cells.

Why not? You're making grand statements about a non-existent scenario to begin with.

Your definition of character is pretty narrow.

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If you can't change your opinion when faced with facts and reason, then that is ignorance. You are just trying to justify ignorance with having "character".

Your definition of character is nonexistent.

Of course.

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What do you consider facts and reason?

Facts and reason.

Any examples that can actually relate to this post?

I responded to your comment where you said that ignoring reason is a "show of character". I am not sure how much clearer can I get that ignoring people(who you consider to be working for the government) who present facts is not a show of character, but a show of ignorance.

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This has nothing to do with semantics. Like at all.

You should have at least written that not changing your opinions is important to you, as shown here, where you're dodging the question to save face.

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You are either a troll, or really, really concerned to not show embarrassment.

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You started the post with a ridiculous, baseless statement. Why not answer?

Not act tough on reddit......

What in the fuck are you on about?

Where did I ever claim I was "tough"?

Where was it ever even implied?

You asked me a question I answered . Your anger is amusing

What anger? I asked you questions.

Where in any of those questions is anger implied?

Does the word fuck always carry an angry context to you?

Are you a protest arranger? Are you any kind of activist? Or do you just come to the internet and act?

Bro I did a one man protest for 4 hours on the 4th of July.

I've also attended occupy marches in Chicago when it was still happening.

I'm not always out on the streets, but I do call my representatives and maintain a facebook page for sharing issues that people need to call their representatives about, specifically for my state.

So yes, I do actually engage in political activism, I'm not just some internet word warrior.

u mad bro?

Any one can say anything about their feelings but if you do nothing then your feelings are just like every one else sitting on the bench waiting

Just ignore him, he's derailing the topic. Just imagine if you fully believed the msm, everything on conspiracy would look insane(This is by design). It's ironic that the sheep are blind and yet they attack us who they believe to be fools. Yet we know for a fact they are wrong but we try and help them to see. Let's continue to be the bigger man.

Wow so brave!

Much coups.

Why did you post that?

Fall in line with the rest of the 'so brave' and 'lol' people

What kind of bullshit comment is this?

Your comment displays the intelligence of a 2 year old child.

Like, do you honestly think you're funny in regurgitating this passive aggressive bullshit phrase that idiots use to dismiss what people say?

You've contributed absolutely nothing towards an informed discourse on the subject at hand.

Good job being an absolute asshole to somebody else for no reason other than to make yourself feel better.

I hope you feel good about yourself for mocking people who post how they feel about their determination to remain of strong will.

I sincerely hope this gives you something to think about so that you might become a better person.

I'm just tired of the weekly self-post bravery circlejerk.

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Same reason you do.

Why? We should be encouraging each other to continue in our quests to know the truth, and to spread that truth to others.

It's kind of like being a Christian, you're not being useful if you don't tell other people about God and why they should believe in him and his word, which you should :D

If you wish to be cynical and view it as a circlejerk though, I can't stop you.

But nothing ever comes of it. I can't only take so many "Calls to Arm" or similar rallying cries before I reach the conclusion that nobody actually means what they say they do.

I feel you man, I know exactly how it is when everybody is shouting out a different rally cry every day, a new cause is born every minute due to the horrible nature of humanity, which makes life completely overwhelming when you try to lead the crusade in righting the wrongs of the world.

It is a daily battle, an extremely tiring battle that pits you against fellow citizens who mock and spurn you for trying to help them become more enlightened.

Many people don't mean what they say they do, and their words stay just as such, never becoming meaningful actions that effect change for good.

This is why we must be of strong will, never relenting in our determination to fight for the truth.

Again, this is just like being a Christian, and these sentiments are worded far better in the Bible.

Ephesians 16:10 - Finally, be strong in the Lord and in the strength of his might. 11 - Put on the whole armor of God, that you may be able to stand against the schemes of the devil. 12 - For we do not wrestle against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the authorities, against the cosmic powers over this present darkness, against the spiritual forces of evil in the heavenly places. 13 - Therefore take up the whole armor of God, that you may be able to withstand in the evil day, and having done all, to stand firm. 14 - Stand therefore, having fastened on the belt of truth, and having put on the breastplate of righteousness, 15 - and, as shoes for your feet, having put on the readiness given by the gospel of peace. 16 - In all circumstances take up the shield of faith, with which you can extinguish all the flaming darts of the evil one; 17 - and take the helmet of salvation, and the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God, 18 - praying at all times in the Spirit, with all prayer and supplication. To that end keep alert with all perseverance, making supplication for all the saints, 19 - and also for me, that words may be given to me in opening my mouth boldly to proclaim the mystery of the gospel, 20 - for which I am an ambassador in chains, that I may declare it boldly, as I ought to speak.

Then make something come of it. Holy shit. Don't wait for somebody else to tell you what to do

I don't. That's why I strive to be a producer rather than a consumer.

"So brave" is the slogan of cowards.

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You don't know me.

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You're free to your opinion.

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In there mehtal bawkses!

You didn't really address the OP's point. He directed this post to shills. The shoe must fit you because you felt the need to comment. If it doesn't I apoligize, but it's like that old saying goes...the lady doth protest too much me thinks.

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I'm sure the government is trembling in their jackboots.

If they weren't they wouldn't spend so much time and effort suppressing information and lying to the world.

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You don't think our government suppresses information from the public and lies to them (us) constantly?

If so, you are mistaken. Incredibly so, in fact.

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Die government shills -Abraham Lincoln

God that's the bravest thing I've read all month

http://i.imgur.com/YWZh2uQ.gif

A close 2nd was your comment.

Tell 'em, Steve Dave!

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No one is projecting except you. We can all see through this teenaged rebellion for the joke that it is. Don't get me wrong, your enthusiasm for going against the grain and questioning things is admirable. It's the delusions of grandeur and superior attitude that's making you come off like an immature fool.

It is impossible to take you seriously when you conduct yourself like a fourteen year old. You are arrogantly posturing like some self-absorbed child who just realized that god isn't real and the government isn't good. Screaming big threats to nobody over the internet while acting like some Che Guevara freedom fighter and pretending the government is terrified of you is why you're being ridiculed and downvoted. You are conducting yourself like a petty, childish tool.

Maybe just stick to questioning things and providing alternate information instead of stroking your ego so hard.

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I know how much you'd prefer to interpret the situation as everyone is ganging up on you because you have the courage to speak some controversial truth, but that's really not the case and there's no need to try to paint yourself as some poor persecuted individual for any reason other than insecurity.

To answer your questions.

1. You are degrading the quality of a subreddit by posting self-absorbed rants of little to no substance.

2. It doesn't bother, as much as slightly annoy people. Most will just downvote you, I have some free time so I replied.

3. Yes and no. No, you are not specifically directing your post at me or any individual in this subreddit. But you are not speaking to any government agents, you are in a community of fellow conspiracy theorists. It's pretty clear that you were just pandering for the sake of karma, and it backfired and now you don't like it.

4. Not sure of what shoe you are referring to. I'm guessing you are trying to accuse me of being a shill which is hilarious as other users in this thread have pointed out you would do as soon as someone called you on your ridiculousness.

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It should be pointed out that your original post contributes absolutely nothing of worth.

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You posted your declaration of defiance in a forum that is generaly populated by like minded individuals. Maybe if you had dropped this bomb of bravery on a forum populated by public officials or corporate types or politicaly or corporately aligned users or who ever it is exaclty that you are standing up to, your post might have more merit.

The discussion here isn't coming from your target audience and nobody here cares who your post was directed at. Mostly because your post makes you look like a disgruntled youth with delusions of grandeur. This means that the discussion is about the merit of your post and the attitude of your post. Did you expect a shill to hop on here and say "Oh shit, we've got a live one here. Tell the dirty cops to avoid that guy because he can't be bought."?

Next time you want to be brave and defiant, rather than standing up from the couch at your friend's house and yelling "I will not comply!" to nobody in particular, you might try actually yelling at the right people, preferably not on the internet.

Did you at least copy and paste your post in an email to your local government?

TL:DR; Its obvious you're full of hot air.

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Nobody here takes offense to your post. Everybody here is just calling you out on your useless tripe.

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So the people agreeing with you here are also spouting useless tripe since they are giving your post the time of day?

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And you are grossly insignificant and empty-headed. This kind of dismissal is easy peasy.

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Please. Your ego is astounding. You actually think somebody with a job to do is going to hang out on your thread because you stood up to the man (even though you didn't actually stand up to the man)?

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You're implying that my job is to derail status-quo defying posts (further implying that this post was status-quo defying in nature, which is laughable). You would be wrong, but I think I appreciate the lofty esteem with which you regard me. One of the great PapaEstSatan's enemies.

Or, you know, get over yourself.

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So people that think your posturing is silly, misdirected, and juvenile are shills?

Wow you're getting bombarded by shills on this post. What better an oppurtunity to stay true to your post than this?

Truth always wins. Sometimes later than sooner.

The truth absolutely will win in the end as has already been prophesied.

Top lel

Wait, what cause is that exactly?

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What kind of bullshit response is that? Tell me: What do you stand for?

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Again: vague, dismissive and entirely unproductive. Also, highly presumptuous of you, and very unlikely. One more time: WHAT do you stand for?

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HA! Oh you. You're fun.

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"If you have to ask, I'm not going to tell you. Because I myself don't even know."

ITT: An awful lot of people having knee-jerk defensive reactions, rushing to apologize for a group they supposedly claim doesn't exist.

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Indeed.

In any case, I'm with ya OP, completely agreed.

Anything the ruling class could do to actually change my mind would make it not my mind anymore.

In this way alone, they will never break me. Solidarity, brothers. It is the only path to victory.

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Who ever said that doing something to you excluded doing something to your family?

Though you are probably correct in saying that nothing will ever happen to them as far as conspiracies go. I wonder if you will attribute that to your strength of character or the intensity and purity of your "resistance".

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The uncomfortable-with-themselves, apathetic wonders have come out in force in this one. OP, good on you. Every person who says this, the stronger the people become.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iU820brzR04

Don't fool yourself, babe. There is something they can do about it and have plans to do about it.

Back during the Reagan/Bush administration they made plans for people like us.

Rex 84, short for Readiness Exercise 1984, was a classified "scenario and drill" developed by the United States federal government to suspend the United States Constitution, declare martial law, place military commanders in charge of state and local governments, and detain large numbers of American citizens who are deemed to be "national security threats", in the event that the President declares a "State of National Emergency". The plan states, events causing such a declaration would be widespread U.S. opposition to a U.S. military invasion abroad, such as if the United States were to directly invade Central America. To combat what the government perceived as "subversive activities", the plan also authorized the military to direct ordered movements of civilian populations at state and regional levels....They patterned the plan on a 1970 report written by FEMA chief Louis Giuffrida, at the Army War College, which proposed the detention of up to 21 million "American Negroes", if there were a black militant uprising in the United States. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rex_84

The Germans murdered 11 million in a political genocide, to wipe out those who they suspected might have ideas the plutocracy hated or who were a drag on the wealthy. In Indonesia in the 60s they murdered up to a million people for their suspected politics and all the while they were killing people the CIA was sending them more lists of people to be sure to kill. At the beginning of the Korean War, South Korea and the US did something similar, killing at least 100,000 unarmed people and their families because they were suspected of having subversive ideas.

There was a recent submission that they have a list of 8 million people. The Germans killed 11 million. Murdering eight million is certainly within the powers and abilities of our fascist government, especially once the Republicans are in power again.

I know I'm on their list. But if they come for me, I mean to fight. You have to make your own decision.

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It's even easier for them to kill foreigners.

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People have to know who you are before you can be a martyr.

Otherwise you're just another stain on the landscape.

get your priorities straight, government isn't the problem, it's the thug gang of central bankers that control government that are the problem...money is the king, government is not in control of the creation of money, they are in charge of the BORROWING of created money...all your little scumbag nsa government workers do their job, they do their job in exchange for money, money created with interest attached, money they got from the Jews that use other Jews as a human shield, the Jews who want you to think all Jews own central banks....The same Jews Hitler was trying to stop....but no your brainwashed population of central bank slaves were subject to propaganda, so you stopped the one guy who was trying to save you from this small group of Jewish gangsters, the Jews who got all the other Jews killed during WW2....get your facts straight, and stop trying to steer people to focus on the decoy, government...government is not the problem, the monetary system that controls government is

When your leg itches, do you scratch your arm?

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1. the president of the Fed is taking orders from the OWNERS OF THE FED...ie the corporate group of commercial/consumer and investment banking corporations that are privately owned with board members and stockholders.

2. you like most people seem to not understand basic crime processes that use lying and mental manipulation to separate a sucker from his money {labor/toil} either that or you are pretending to not understand it.

3. a basic principal of a "crime" that is a confidence scam is the "decoy tactic", that being that for any position of power a "stoolie" shall be put in place to pretend to be "in charge". That way, with several layers of guys who are "in charge" who are not really in charge, the average tv watching eater falls for the trick and belives anything the tv tells them...." THIS IS THE ELECTION, THIS IS WHO YOU CAN VOTE FOR, THIS IS WHO WON, THESE ARE YOUR LEADERS...THE TV SAID SO AND THE SIGN ON THE DOOR SAY'S "BOSS" ".....haha suckers

"would I throw a lit match into the oven if my friend Muggsy was in there?"

come on, the central bankers ability to hold back the truth about the scam is fading...governments ability to control its "workers" is diluted, soon the Jews door will be kicked in, and it will not be at "headquarters" and it will not be the guy in the "boss chair"...No they roam the streets of London, New York, zurich, Tel Aviv and live in tastefully decorated mansions on low key areas with large tracts of land to act as buffers and add "distance" from the tax cattle they farm. They have well paid security teams with al the latest gear. But as much as they have, they will not be able to stop the impending international military coup that is forming against them, nor will the governments they control be able to stop the alliance.

Annnnnd, you're on the list.

So are you, chucklenuts.

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That's because no one gives a fuck what you have to say.

You are being a massive asshole, what the fuck is your problem?

Also, you're wrong, because you replied to what he said, so obviously it made you care otherwise you wouldn't have responded.

If you're going to be an asshole, which I advise you don't, at least be right.

Furthermore, I care what he has to say, so again, you're fucking wrong and you're being an asshole.

Cut it the fuck out.

http://youtu.be/89J2dOyJqNw

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Report his posts, he's in severe violation of the rules, namely not being a fucking asshole.

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You sound upset. Having a bad day today?

http://youtu.be/89J2dOyJqNw

Please no abusive language here. You are in violation of rule number 4.

This is a warning.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=svGAQJYIRqQ

http://youtu.be/89J2dOyJqNw

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No worries man, Most of us can spot them easily. It's a waste of time to try and engage them.

The thing about sociopaths is they're predictable.

Mmm. The metalic taste of irony.

http://youtu.be/89J2dOyJqNw

They're all going to be unemployed in a few weeks when forced austerity begins. Owning your own business selling physical goods is the only safe job in this economy. It's time for the leeches to figure out another way of living.

These are the steps I've taken and continue to take in order to keep my family and friends safe for whatever is coming:

1. Make your family and loved ones aware of how you feel and why. Explain to them why you are stressed and why you are taking the steps you are.

2. Limit your exposure to the dollar. The QE bubble has to pop sooner or later. Buy real estate, buy bitcoins, exchange dollars for other currencies and/or gold. Anything. Just don't be left hanging with all your money in dollars.

3. BUY A RIFLE. Do not wait.

4. Have food and water on hand. God forbid there is ever a shortage.

5. Speak out. If ALL of us continue to SPEAK up about and call out the FUCKING FRAUDULENT pieces of shit that are destroying this country, there will be too many to round up just based on internet chatter. OBAMA IS A PSYCHOPATH MURDERER, there I said it.

6. Accept death and pray to God. Don't be afraid to die standing up for what you believe in. They can take your life but not your soul. Whether you believe in God or Blind Chance, we all must come to terms with the fact that some things are simply out of our hands. Say a prayer to Jesus Christ or The Spaghetti Monster, tell your family and friends you love them and have fun and enjoy life while you have it.

Finally, remember that knowing the truth is half the battle. Remember that when a Whistleblower comes out and gives up their life to tell you something "crazy" or "tinfoil fedora conspiritarded" that they know that's how the public will react. They know that they will be called a pyscho and a "conspiritard" and BE KILLED but they still speak the truth. And for that, you have to hear them out and listen to their stories and take them seriously. Because if you don't, you won't be prepared for the moment their words come true.

The Whistleblowers:

• Susan Lindauer: http://youtu.be/G43zl4fzDQg?t=7m26s
• Thomas Drake: http://youtu.be/zLdHw2ZWrjc?t=45m31s
• Bill Cooper: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NX5CGcEnRgA
• Bill Cooper predicts 911: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lLHVQUTrgvM
• Phil Schneider: http://youtu.be/Vf7vLXf5bNo?t=1m29s
• Boyd E. Graves: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=601j3ksu0RA
• Bob Lazar: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=igUMDICqTpQ
• Bill Schnoebelen, 90th Degree Mason: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bSQ2AyAZI54
• Smedley Butler: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O8sUvpSdWfc
• Sgt Kristen Edwards: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CjujZ4Pr5u4
• Ted Gunderson: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MMaODPUl6B4
• Andrew Basiago: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mlGp6R3uExc
• Robert Steele: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BSEnurBApdM
• John Kiriakou: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kEv5oexuNRg
• Russ Tice: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d6m1XbWOfVk

Good luck and God speed brother. We are many and they are few. Remember that.

Yes, believing the same thing on Wednesday as you did on Monday no matter what you learn on Tuesday is a wonderful trait. /s

How delightfully condescending. I'm certain of more than a few things, but I'm also old enough to know that you can be wrong about things that you used to be certain about.