9/11 pseudofficial government story
1 2014-02-04 by skywalk819
9/11 was the first time in history where 2 Planes crashed 3 Buildings. It was also the first time Jet Fuel Fire burning from 77th to 99th floor cut threw steel beams made not to melt from fire damage in the basement of the World Trade Center. It was also the first time the Black Box of two planes in two different crash wasn't found after a crash. It was also the first time in history that an airplane crash into the pentagon but no airplane debris were found. It was also the first time in history the criminal who did this act of war where caught because a passport from a plane crash survived the inferno that the steel beam 77th floors lower. If you still believe in the official US Government story about 9/11, chickens now have teeth, they can also spell SHEEPLES.
PS: Fix my typo if any!
32 comments
1 skywalk819 2014-02-04
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e-wXcJA-et0
1 skywalk819 2014-02-04
This explain it all.
-2 Person_McName 2014-02-04
There's a few inconsistencies there. Firstly, the planes weakened the structure, and then the jet fuel weakened it even more (not melting, weakening) combined with the load of the floors overhead, caused it to collapse. Secondly, they found a shit ton of debris from the plane that hit the pentagon, just not a fully intact fuselage (as one would expect they wouldn't find). Not to mention that lower Manhattan has tons of debris from the plane and not just the passport.
Also, you forgot a couple firsts. It was the first time a building has been hit by a plane travelling over 500mph, the first lime latteral load bearing columns were sheared off by a 767, the first time an office fire lasted uncontrolled between 7-9 hours while already having sustained serious structural dammage.
2 skywalk819 2014-02-04
Ok, show me a demonstration of Jet fuel and the material found in the WTC and cut tru steel. Do it. You can't. You need specialize equipment to do so. Or explosives, or special termite compound found in some of the debris stole or got legally by people working on the site etc. Maybe part of the burning floors could fell off, or the top of tower, but not all the floors, without any 'resistance' whatsoever. And you dont explain WTC7 that fell with no planes. The 'THIRD' building that was suppose to be hit by a plane but 'Failed' and still got destroyed the same day. How you explain that?
That is pure lie, Pentagon debris, what hit the pentagon was a missile, no video ever released of the video camera showing a plane, any debris or 'parts'? of debris is from another crash obviously.
1 Myconspiracyname 2014-02-04
He never said it did. That doesn't sound possible.
Debris caused structural damage and fires furthered the damage.
Here's a good place to start
0 skywalk819 2014-02-04
The fireman sent there estinguished all fire and controlled the building yet.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jKtU01qcZBM
1 Myconspiracyname 2014-02-04
No, firemen said the couldn't put our all the fires. That's why the building is still on fire before it falls. How do you not remember this happening?
-1 skywalk819 2014-02-04
yes they had it under control, but they were ordered to exit the building because it would somehow fell they were said, and moments later the building was bombed down.
2 Myconspiracyname 2014-02-04
Want to rephrase that?
1 skywalk819 2014-02-04
beought down by the use of explosives
1 Person_McName 2014-02-04
I just explained that it doesn't have to cut it, it just has to weaken the already weakened structure. The plane crashed into the towers at over 500mph, and took out a significant chunk of the load bearing structure. That combined with the fire (and office full of flammable materials), and the load of the upper floors all combined to cause the eventual collapse.
You mean the one that was hit with shit tons debris? The one that sustained serious damage to the south side? Not to mention uncontrolled fires raging for 6-9 hours combined with a barely working sprinkler system? Yeah, that one.
Also, my question to you, is why WTC 7? What do you gain from tearing it down? It doesn't have a strategic value like the Pentagon or the main towers, so why set charges in it to do a controlled demolition?
Another crash? Where did they get the parts from, and how did they strategically place them there? It's pretty much proven that it's debris from a plane, aka the one that hit the Pentagon. Do you want me to link pictures?
also, i'm proud you didn't mention free fall, since that is completely disproven (it was about 40% of free fall)
1 iamagod_ 2014-02-04
Even 5% resistence of the building on one side would have caused the buildings to fall to one side instead of straight down into its own footprint. Impossible unless all core supports, including the steel and concrete interior shaft that held the lifts. Pulverized to dust, forcing material up, out, and away. Not possible without explosives. The pancake theory is also fringe, in that even NIST does not support this assumption. It's a pie that has been passed as fact, even though it's nothing of the sort.
Check your material. 9/11 did not happen as we were told. It's a group of lies of incredible magnitude.
1 Person_McName 2014-02-04
The thing I don't understand is this obsession over WTC 7. It was hit by debris, had a raging fire that lasted for 8ish hours, and was built in such a way that much of the load bearing structure was on the outside. Why do people still argue that? Not necessarily referring to you, but people in general. Also, i'll give you pancake thing, as you are right with that one. Finally, if you watch the video, you can however see the upper floors falling at an angle, which what I think you're implying (correct me if im wrong about that).
1 DefiantShill 2014-02-04
Well technically the damage from WTC1 falling onto it didnt cause the collapse. It sparked the fires (which burned for almost 7 hours) and it was thermal expansion that caused the structure to collapse.
1 Person_McName 2014-02-04
Yes, but i was referring to the fact that people often don't acknowledge any damage from the debris, and only mention the fire.
1 iamagod_ 2014-02-04
It doesn't collapse perfectly even with that being the case.
0 skywalk819 2014-02-04
You are just an internet paid chill.
How do you explain the explosive found in the debris?
Free fall?
Enough energy to pulverize concrete to powder from structural failure? ALL 100 FLOORS ? RIGHTTTTT!!!!! BOTH TOWERS, SORRY ALL THREE?
2 stones three birds can't be possible.
There was ALOT of valuable information in WTC7 haha. like Pentagon backup servers? Why you ask me?
Alot witness and Firemans policemans heard explosives sound everywhere, in WTC7.
The commission set to fail from start to investigate 9/11, all they said is basicly what your spewing on me right now, same drill same lies.
1 Person_McName 2014-02-04
I like how that because I disagree with your opinion I'm clearly a shill.
You mean thermite? the compound commonly made of aluminum and iron (III) oxide (aka rust)? Seems pretty simple to me simple to me. In fact, it would be weirder if we didn't find either of those.
Explained in previous comment. It's like you don't even read what i write.
The debris from the towers and the plane hit quite a few buildings around the towers, how is it so hard to accept that debris hit, and seriously damaged the south face of WTC 7?
Can you provide a source to the backup servers thing? Not to mention that that would imply the Pentagon would literally be shooting itself in the foot by destroying those backups.
0 skywalk819 2014-02-04
the people n charge of the security for the fbi backup servers were located in tower 1 and 2 of WTC. exactly where the 2 planes hit.
Coincidence?
do your research im tired to waste my time with internet chills.
0 Person_McName 2014-02-04
But that doesn't have anything to do with WTC 7...
1 skywalk819 2014-02-04
yeah it has ALOT to do with 9/11 bc the point of 9/11 was to destroy evidence of the lost trillions in dollar tax money lost by the tresury and the pentagon wing hit by a missile was in charge of the investigation, wtc7 was hosting fbi backup server redundancy, the people firm in charge of the security was hit by a plane in both towers. and the third plane that fell in pelsylvany was supose to hit wtc7 but failed, hence they couldnt bring 3 towers and put a dent in the pentagon, the ritual failed because hte number was 2 towers and not 3!
your just a none informed chill, waste of time
0 Person_McName 2014-02-04
Ok firstly, its shill not chill, nor am I one. Secondly, you gave no sources for any of this on top of there often being evidence to the contrary. for example, the wing of the pentagon that was hit did not contain the investigation, nor do I know what investigation you are referring to. The third plane we know for a fact was going to hit DC, likely the white house or capitol buildings. Not even truthers deny this. Next, I honestly have no clue what you mean about a "ritual" not to mention that WTC 7 collapsed anyways, and that they still put a dent in the pentagon. Again though there is little to no evidence of basically everything you're claiming. Not to mention your only argument at this point is stuff you pulled out of your ass and constant ad homenims.
2 skywalk819 2014-02-04
Nah, you sure are one, because every comments you do on this account is against the OP view, in any topic you seem to be interrested with, every comments you did was negative, i think only a few wasn't. All you are doing is bashing people in /r/conspiracy, other then a 'shill' I dont see who would do this.
Also go see these videos:
2.3 trillion dollar missing 9/10: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OAQNF6GdGv8
FBI backup/security firm/etc explanation: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ahat9YOKOxs&list=PL3fO_W74_2eg1o7ft6k0gdLXzQs5x1xPv&index=39
9/11: all servers, backup servers, buildings of the firms doing the security, IT, maintenance, everything was crushed and destroyed.
THAT IS NO COINCIDENCE. whatever you say. it isnt. and verify all the proof, I did check all the anems in the first video explanation and they are valid sources.
BUT THIS ISNT ADDRESSED BECAUSE THERE WAS NO SUCH THING RIGHT?
stupid shill
sorry if you arent but i hate people like you.
1 skywalk819 2014-02-04
http://www.911myths.com/index.php/Missing_Trillions
1 skywalk819 2014-02-04
also have to account the 4 military drills the same day of the 9/11 by DoD, norad, etc
slow reaction time,
so many BAD COINCIDENCE happened that day. its impossible, we have been lied too.
you are defending the liars.
you are doing no good to society.
1 skywalk819 2014-02-04
Im trying to help, the millions people who died because some people in the elite of USA did this 9/11 attack to bring usa into an endless war so the military industrial complex would earn LOTS of profits.
how many people died?
how many people turned terrorist from innocent because we drone strike their house with a missile worth 80,000$ on a hut with people who dont even make this in a lifetime?
how many collateral damage we did?
how many increase in expense everyone have to pay since that day?
we pay lots more TAX now because of 9/11
the TSA is a good example of useless crap with useless techonlogy brought because of 9/11.
I can go get an airplane with my gun on me and if I position it right where i need it, they cant see my gun. very 'strong' security.
i have millions point i can name, i can go on like that for years.
all you have is the biased story of bush administration.
so suck it you are just spreading lies.
1 Person_McName 2014-02-04
Well, you did give sources about many of what you said, so thats a significant improvement. But I'm still not sure i get your whole "ritual" thing (maybe it's a figure of speech, i'm not sure). Again though, If it was in fact the government (i.e. CIA, FBI, etc...) why would they intentionally sabotage their own backups, not to mention that there likely exists more than one backup server for the express purpose of if one fails. Also, with a few exceptions (like the fake snow stuff) I've never taken an openly hostile view towards conspiracies, more of an interest in debating them (it's interesting to hear both sides sometimes)
1 skywalk819 2014-02-04
you can check this too
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ahat9YOKOxs&list=PL3fO_W74_2eg1o7ft6k0gdLXzQs5x1xPv&index=39
This channel very nice and has valid sources, he double check everything. I also did double check videos I sent you.
1 Meister_Vargr 2014-02-04
No one has their backup servers in the same location as their production servers.
0 skywalk819 2014-02-04
you are also commenting in against every 'conspiracy' in this subreddit, all you are doing, every comment you do is against the theory. And you do it in the same time interval every day haha so funny.
1 iamagod_ 2014-02-04
Persona.management.software
1 skywalk819 2014-02-04
Im trying to help, the millions people who died because some people in the elite of USA did this 9/11 attack to bring usa into an endless war so the military industrial complex would earn LOTS of profits.
how many people died?
how many people turned terrorist from innocent because we drone strike their house with a missile worth 80,000$ on a hut with people who dont even make this in a lifetime?
how many collateral damage we did?
how many increase in expense everyone have to pay since that day?
we pay lots more TAX now because of 9/11
the TSA is a good example of useless crap with useless techonlogy brought because of 9/11.
I can go get an airplane with my gun on me and if I position it right where i need it, they cant see my gun. very 'strong' security.
i have millions point i can name, i can go on like that for years.
all you have is the biased story of bush administration.
so suck it you are just spreading lies.