There are a lot of things about Sandy Hook I find interesting to say the least.

Can you link me to the best source for sandy hook facts?

A really good one, among others, is Sandy Hoax. Watch it on YouTube.

Good question, difficult answers. It is hard to say what is "fact"- I'd start Googling the event and read "official" stories. Watch the "official" videos from the AP and the major media and news. Then, start to read smaller independent news sources.

Don't go straight to "conspiracy theory videos"- you want to make up your own mind on this. And unfortunately, there isn't a good concise place for facts that I've found.. Yet. If I do, I'll share immediately.

Are you saying a family member of a lottery representative won the lottery twice? WTF!!!!! Have you sent this information to the Connecticut Lottery Commission? Super illegal - Surprised this hasn't got more attention.

For the big ones, this is quite common. It's very likely that most state lotteries are poor people taxes for a rigged game of chance.

Wanna see something cool?

2009, Joe Dlubac is in bad debt, in court in CT with collections.

Then......

5/12/10 Joe Dlubac wins 20,000.

10/2012 Twitter and Facebook posts start "My dad is missing his name is Joe Dlubac...etc.etc."

10/24/12 Joe Dlubac's obituary.

6/17/13 Joe Dlubac wins 20,000.

1/21/14 Joe Dlubac wins 30,000.

Or.....

8/30/10 Robert Sokolik wins 10,000.

3/19/12 Robert Sokolik wins 10,000.

7/24/13 Robert Sokolik wins 10,000.

9/17/13 Robert Sokolik wins 608,900.

1/14/14 Robert Sokolik wins 10,000.

Poor Rob, he didn't win anything in 2011!

Oh wait. Here it is. Robert Sokolik wins the Wisconsin state Lottery for 88,000 in 2011.

Totally not rigged. Keep buying those tickets guys...I mean suckers...I mean good citizens.

1. They have the same last name, which doesn't prove relation.

2. The article OP is using as evidence is from 1985.

1. I just found this a few hours ago.
2. They have the same last name but are they provably related?

I don't mind fact gathering, but reporting loosely gathered information like that isn't a place I feel comfortable or safe sticking my nose. If it pertained to an injured person, or something more solid, or more egregious, I would not hesitate to report it instantly.

Far too much convenient bullshit for chance. What a crock of shit all around. They lied to us to further their fucked up goals.

When they need to lie to succeed, you know they are wrong.

I wonder how much money the person invested into the lottery. It is possible that he is just a lottery fanatic and spent a lot of money to boost his chances. Still interesting though.

I like how you're being downvoted for interrupting the circlejerk even though multiple people listed on that page appear more than once.

Have an upvote for using common sense and logic.

Thanks!

Statistically speaking, even buying thousands of tickets does not drastically raise your chances. Were talking million to one odds or far greater. Hitting twice, then being involved in an obvious state false flag is not just highly suspicious, but further proof of lies.

Trust me I will not argue that claim, That sounds fully possible as well.

Multiple people were listed as having won more than once. Factually speaking.

And these are the folks that are likely in on it.

Haha, you're funny.

In on what? A lottery scratch-off conspiracy? Sandy Hook?

Mark Mattioli- Sandy Hook- 2 time winner Steven Zvon- Sandy Hook- 2 time winner Stephen Perrone- Newtown (Sandy Hook)- 2 time winner

Eg. BUT- John Zygmont- Torrington- 2 time winner- Edward Zygmont, James Zygmont- 1 time winner each

So, the name Zygmont- is what..... 3 brothers who have a genetic affinity for gambling?

Edit: Not saying Zygmont has anything to do with Sandy Hook- saying that something is up with a Lottery system where multiple families, rare names, win multiple times within a short time period. Further statistical anomalies.

I'm not even saying it is a "bad rig"- maybe the Lotto gives to families in need "secretly"-- who knows.

But the Zygmonts had a recent tragedy too:

http://www.tnhonline.com/news/zygmont-remembered-for-his-humor-love-of-the-outdoors-1.3096348#.UvLMS_ldWH4

Again, where does it say that these three guys are related? And if they are, what does that prove?

Allan Hoyt - Bristol, CT - 2 time winner

Denise Hoyt - Southington, CT - 2 time winner

They must be in on it too, though. Right?

Listen, it doesn't. I'm not trying to argue. You seem set on it. I'm just pointing out "weird stuff". This is statistically weird. That's all.

We've seen clear examples of this in the past. Oh how quickly some forget. Scrath offs don't win millions, I'm afraid.

He didn't win millions. He won $100,000 and $50,000. Or are you saying that he'll continue to win the lottery for the rest of his life?

Right....kind of my thinking the more I look into it...Wow. Certainly branching away from Sandy Hook here, I think, but may have accidentally touched on another topic for research.

4222 names. 4 Guerreras win- 1 from Cheshire, 3 from Waterbury. 6 Hoyts win- Bristol (2) and then Southington. 2 Kaminski (different 1st names) 1 George Jewell and 1 Jewell Patrick Lillian Perone- Prospect- 2 times

Just weird stuff... So many duplicate/triplicate etc....

Holy fuck, keep grasping at straws.

1. Multiple people listed on that page won more than once.

2. Mattioli is a fairly common name and you haven't proved any relation between Mark Mattioli and Diane Mattioli.

3. In addition to not proving any relation between the two, your second source regarding Diane Mattioli as a lottery spokeswoman is from 1985 and has no bearing on Mark Mattioli getting lucky on two scratch games in 2011 and 2013.

4. You've provided no source or proof of the same street "conspiracy," which even if true, means nothing.

Tl;dr: No, I don't find it particularly interesting.

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Wow... what a well thought-out and enlightened response.

hahahah i know! It's all I have! I'm so frustrated I can't explain myself!

A certain quote from Mark Twain comes to mind at the moment. Since it's probably too complicated for you, I'll go ahead and dumb it down a little: shut the fuck up unless you know what you're talking about.

Is it sad that I don't even know you, and you certainly don't know me, and that actually hurt my feelings.... not for me so much as for those people you speak to this way- so much anger- and, for what purpose?

I am intelligent, and I am college educated, just started PhD work, and I've had a very good career so far in my life.

This topic of "conspiracy" is fascinating, interesting, confusing, a little weird, and sometimes it's fun. The Sandy Hook issues stick out to me as an absolute list of anomalies; and no on can say it is not a worthy topic to investigate. It is a tragedy no matter what the truth is about it. I don't put the type of time and care into posts on Reddit that I would put into this if I were at work conducting an investigation and writing a report, no. And so sometimes I simply don't feel like compiling a well thought out argument/response, or my kids yelling for something in the other room, or there's laundry to be done, and shoveling and life.

So no- sometimes, I just toss my hands up here and don't plan out a very well thought out response. You're absolutely right. But telling me to "shut the fuck up unless I know what I'm talking about" is just quite rude and unnecessary. You're a rather angry little person, aren't you?

If your feelings were hurt over me telling you to shut the fuck up because you don't know what you're talking about, how do you think the families of the victims feel about this sub's insistence that their children's deaths were fake?

My purpose? To demonstrate that you don't know what you're talking about and that people shouldn't listen to you.

That is a fair response. And you're completely right on the first part. If this is a cut and dried, straight issue- if everything the media and police reported on was just how it happened (and all the errors, inconsistencies etc were complete coincidences and shoddy work etc) and there is NO conspiracy here, then I am at fault, and that is sad.

However, where did I say the deaths of those children were fake?

You're joking, right? It's a common accusation in this sub and elsewhere on the internet that the deaths were faked.

And if that's not what you're saying, then you're saying that they accepted money for their children to be murdered so that Connecticut could pass slightly more restrictive gun legislation?

You realize that the media is incompetent at reporting on breaking news and doesn't verify their sources, which spreads conflicting information in their attempt to report it first, right?

You realize that responding to an active shooter is not a cut and dried, straight issue, right?

I'm looking at this inductively, not deductively.

And, actually, as a member of law enforcement for 10 years prior to what I'm doing currently- I am all too aware of the "not a cut and dried, straight issue" that shootings / reporting about a shooting is.

I don't have a conclusion that I've drawn. I don't know enough to draw one. I do know though, that there are lies, inconsistencies, anomalies, strange coincidences and misinformation.

I am not saying that any family accepted money for the deaths of their child. I have never said that.

Why is this conspiratorial? What are the lines between these events? I just can't see it, but perhaps you can explain so I do.

1. There are popular theories that there are many conspiratorial elements to things that occurred at/around the Sandy Hook Shooting, if not the whole shooting itself.

2. The statistical anomalies here are simply interesting.

I have NO suppositions- again, I have NO clue how this may "matter", but am simply noting it because it is an anomaly.

Why is it significant that they lived on the same street? They all went to the same school so geographically, they would be close to each other.

I grew up in a 3x3 square mile town and can think of very few classmates that lived on the same block let alone a list that long that would connect back to the school.

I concur.

Because of the sheer size of the zoning district for the school. There are many, many streets that would (according to where the other 66% of victims are from) that are from a not TOO concentrated area. The other victims also are from streets with either one other victim, or someone "significant" to the investigation, or who interjected themselves into Associated Press interviews.

I don't know what it means. I keep saying this guys. All I'm saying is it is unusual.

Yes the anomalies around the Sandy Hook shooting are weird. Too weird!

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You've been shadowbanned, probably for this post, sorry.

I totally see your point, and about this list- I did this as well. And I didn't see much there, until I started to think..... if there were a shooting in this small town I live in, comparable to Sandy Hook, and 3 victims were from the same street- sure not a large #, and it is a large street etc etc-- but it would still be noteworthy.

And, for example-- Yogananda = 1 victim BUT Yogananda also = Nancy&Adam Lanza's address.

I don't know....sigh....I kind of just noticed all of these anomalies, and yes- each one, on its own, not a huge deal. Many things are easy to dismiss, brush off.

But this whole thing about how MANY people on Berkshire have victims, relatives, or something to do with the whole thing.

Sigh again.... I don't know. I just KNOW something is wrong here. There are many conspiracy theories I don't "buy into", and this was one of them for awhile.

I don't take this lightly, but in my heart, I just know something is wrong with this.

The lottery thing is odd to me (not related to the shooting) but the addresses don't raise any suspicion, in my opinion. I agree that there are a whole list of anomalies but I don't think this is one of them.

Sincerely asking - What about this has you bothered?

Can I PM you?

Simply many more statistical anomolies to add to the other highly suspect false flag event.

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You're acting like it's all done. Mission accomplished? No, this is simply a step in their slow roll forward infringing on the god given rights of man. These are not constitutional guarantees, but inherent rights that will always exist. Unless we give them up willingly.

Think about this deeper. It's very sad your depth of knowledge of history is so poor as to not see this clearly.

The theory is that these people are not who they appear to be and that they are black ops agents who play whatever roll serves TPTB. A fake lottery winning would be a convenient way to pay the person "off the books"