Any one else notice the amount of people who claim to be long time lurkers who are coming out of the shadows and who generally seem to be disrupting the sub?

7  2014-02-11 by [deleted]

I'm sure I can't be the only person who's noticed this, it's been happening a lot in the last few days.

EDIT- Ok apparently a lot of you have noticed this as well, and have even had threads about it today. I guess I missed a lot while I was at work today. So since we're all on the same page here, should we call the users out on it, look at the evidence of these things and hear if they have a defense? Or do you guys think that would be a dick move?

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Long time lurker here: Can confirm this.

:-P

Oh good. Sorry, I've been at work all day I missed that post. Cool, I'm glad that other people have noticed this because it's been driving me crazy.

Have you noticed how fucking stupid most of the theories around here are? Gotta say something eventually I guess...

You want a defense? Why is it a big fucking deal? Everybodies voice deserves to be heard. We are "coming out of the shadows" so we can give an opinion and we are getting bagged on for that for the sole reason we have an account less than a week old. You "non-lurkers" are just a bunch of assholes that think you own this place because you've been here longer and can't stand the fact that theres a few new people who have equally interesting ideas in the way that you so kindly stated "A sub for fictional stories" im torn on whether to call a conspiracy fictional or non-fictional because some theories have been proven, but of course not broadcasted on main-stream media. For your sake we'll call them fictional stories. Now to my belief a fiction story is what.. fake? Made up? If you change the word fictional into conspiracy then you have a "made up" story that people are trying to prove because they believe it is. If i say something about anything it is not wrong. If somebody posts something that concerns them and they think could be a real thing, they are not wrong. The only person that's wrong is people like you telling us we're wrong and that we are disrupting this community. YOU are disrupting this sub by creating a huge conflict on lurkers coming out of the cage. You're getting everybody to focus on something that is made out to be believed as more important than other current matter. Just how the media and celebrities cover up what Obama is doing to america and other countries. What if i were to say this whole dispute is a conspiracy. You work for the government. You've become aware that very important world matters have been brought up in this sub. You are trying to distract us from what the real problem is. For everyone who agrees with this guy, go ahead. It doesn't concern me whether or not anybody likes what i have to say. You can hate me, just hate me from the shadows. Don't make this the most important thing in this sub. If this is a sub for goofy stories, then i want to read my goofy stories and be concerned about them and contribute further to them without being harassed. I would like to point one of the most relevant text posts I've seen in awhile. Instead of wasting your time on a rebellion against accounts less than a week old, focus more on how a quarter million of us could start a revolution and quite possibly make a huge difference in the world we live in today. http://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/1xlgcm/there_are_almost_a_quarter_million_people_on_this/

EDIT: I mean seriously how are you gonna discredit someone trying to contribute to this community, and then go make a whole new post whining about them. How is whining about us not disrupting this sub? We aren't doing anything wrong, you don't have to ask if what you're planning to do would make you a dick. You're already a dick.

LADIES AND GENTLEMAN, WE HAVE OUR FIRST DEFENDANT!

EDIT- And here's exhibit A. You'll notice he trolled the shit out of this thread, and me in particular. In fact, I'm rather glad this guy decided to volunteer. He got downvoted to all hell in this thread yesterday. Not to toot my own horn or anything, but I was highly upvoted for all of my responses. At the time I wasn't sure this guy was a troll, I initially thought he was just a little slow in the head(not being demeaning, I'm being serious). It wasn't until this morning that I realized what he was doing. Unfortunately, I deleted all of my own comments before I realized this.

EDIT- Well, I was going to gather up more evidence but since he's going to make it easy I'll just do this- See his comments below for Exhibit B and if that's not enough here's his profile, that should be a good Exhibit C. When you spend 5 minutes going through that it becomes pretty obvious what's going on here. Well shit, that was easy. Who's next??

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Isn't it amazing how these "lurkers" always contradict the regulars? You'd think by lurking so much they'd learn something by now.

how are you gonna discredit someone trying to contribute

Cute how they call parroting the narrative "contributing".

Yep, they sure do. They also always seem to scream about how the rules say that you can't attack them and how by pointing out what they are doing you are breaking those rules. It's like they took a page out of Israel's playbook.

Chapter 1: If all else fails, bitch about the rules. Avoid the subject.

Isn't it possible he didn't realize /r/nosleep is a place for fictional stories, and, when this was pointed out to him, he was confused and thought that whoever pointed it out was saying r/conspiracy was a place for fictional stories? How are you certain he's not a well-intentioned, confused, and, now, likely, embarrassed, new poster?

I very clearly explained it to him, multiple times. Very clearly. I explained what the sub was for and everything, then he pretended to get it and then immediately would comment acting like no one had ever explained anything. Then he would act like I was saying that THIS sub was nothing but fictional stories. The entire process went on for over an hour, it wasn't simply misunderstanding, it was straight up trolling. There are comments missing that made it even more obvious than it already is. Luckily, there were a lot of people who were there who saw it.

Weird.

Rule #6 No caps lock. Rule #10 Posts that attack the sub, users or mods will be removed. You broke tow rules of this community, you have disrupted the peace. My peace.

I'm sorry, but I will not be responding to you anymore. I had quite enough of your shit yesterday, as did many other users of this sub.

What's going on here? Well for one, you and serfnomics both just implied that there is a discrimination of the newer accounts from the "regulars". What you are doing in this post is completely irrelevant and disrespectful to other users. You are a good example of why when america falls, there won't be anyone fighting back, because we all hate eachother for who we are. This sub and other sources has opened my eyes to what the world is really made of, could be made of, and the transition from what it used to be to what it is now. Parroting the narrative? Or giving an opinion that people like you do not accept in a sub you are single handedly disrupting.

In your first comment, you called everyone a dick. And we're supposed to take you seriously?

You are a good example of why when america falls, there won't be anyone fighting back, because we all hate eachother [sic] for who we are.

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Or giving an opinion that people like you [do I sense discrimination here?] do not accept in a sub you are single handedly disrupting.

Nope, parroting the narrative.

YOU are disrupting this sub by creating a huge conflict on lurkers coming out of the cage.

You are trying to distract us from what the real problem is.

You're already a dick.

Rule #10 Posts that attack the sub, users or mods will be removed.

Lurk moar.

I know i did. I understand that it was against the rules, i see that what i said is me technically being a hypocrite, but is this what i have to resort to? Is this what all of this has come to? the OP has literally just created a dispute between the users. If he posts that how does he expect someone in defense of their own being is not going to respond. It's actually really amusing that you just repeated to me everything i said, with no new argument. Dude, i gotta say, that was a compelling argument that convinced me that i was a douchbag lurker. Or maybe not.. If this is what lurking is, i will continue to do so. Until my account is 6 months old and im a regular and everything i say is valid no matter how stupid it sounds. That's all you guys are saying is that im a dumb lurker because my account is 4 or 5 days old. I still don't see a single reply on to why my comments from other posts are invalid and not acceptable. They were opinions, tell me why i can't express an opinion without harassment.

If you know the rules, why did you purposefully break it first while accusing another user of the same mistake?

everything i say is valid no matter how stupid it sounds

I.. what.. huh?

That's all you guys are saying is that im a dumb lurker because my account is 4 or 5 days old.

It has nothing to do with account age, it has to do with your activity in the sub.

They were opinions, tell me why i can't express an opinion without harassment.

OP created a post expressing his opinion, you called him and everyone else here a dick.

LURK. MOAR.

Him creating this in the first place was an attack on users. I have been told too many times already that my account is invalid for its age. Pretty much everything i say, no matter what it is, has been negatively impacted by someone who believes that i shouldn't be commenting and posting because of it's age. He posted this and nobody says anything bad about it. What if i was to make a post attacking the regulars? I'm sure it would get downvoted to hell. My comments and posts are getting downvoted because of silly childish reasons. This is a sub for opinions. I would like for you to stop harassing me. It would mean the better for this sub as a whole. EDIT: yeah i called you a dick because you are, i firmly understand thats against the rules, but that's how far you've pushed this situation. If i'm a lurker, let me lurk in peace.

Him creating this in the first place was an attack on users.

Hey man, this post was not directed to you, but if the shoe fits...! If you believed this was not relevant to you, you'd just ignore it. If someone calls me a fat black woman, I don't engage them defending myself since I know it's not true.

Your walls of text don't help either, it makes it look like you're trying too hard. Learn the mechanics and maybe you'll be better off. My 2 cents.

I don't mean to cause unnecessary roughness, I enjoy seeing new people engaging this sub and you are welcome to do so.

Your rant just didn't pan out, you were too aggressive in defending those who the message was meant for. Now looking at your history I can say that you are not the target. Your comments don't seem to reflect anything harmful or antagonistic towards the regulars.

I sincerely apologize for insulting you, that was before I investigated further since the OP doesn't exactly have a bad reputation and is rather trustworthy, but I should have checked myself first. That was my mistake. If you really are new, I would like to welcome you, and please remember to keep an open mind. But I have a feeling that won't be a problem. Take care.

Thank you. Maybe i just wasn't saying things the exact way i meant. I was upset because as i was trying to have an open mind, and it was being denied. Something as simple as that lead all the way to this. I know that things i said weren't exactly the most productive things, but that's what came out. I appreciate you're apology and without a doubt forgive you. You are the first user to welcome me instead of saying im a lurker. That i supposed is basically what i was looking for, to be welcomed here. It just originally took a wrong turn. Thank you for that, that alone is enough for me to drop everything, and continue browsing the sub with an open mind. EDIT: Although the OP was the main antagonist in my story, i do respect his rep and trustworthiness, i'm sure he's a good guy. Again, i just things took a wrong turn and got out of hand and i am also to blame for that. So to the OP, I too would like to apologize to you, to both of you.

I'm glad to hear that. See you around.

You can paint it however you want. However, what happened was you attacked me yesterday out of the blue and then continued to do so for hours. You said that that post needed to go to the top and I informed you that that post was not real. You immediately started making up all kinds of bullshit, saying that I said thing that I absolutely did not and being a complete dick.

I looked at your debate with him, but besides that I didn't find any reasonable suspicion. The way he blindly accepted the premise on the post, urging to be upvoted could more likely be attributed to ignorance and not malice. But of course only time will tell. I just think he deserves the benefit of the doubt. We can't go treating all new users (debatable, I know) like that because you had an argument. His replies didn't have the tone or characteristics of a disinformant IMHO.

There are quite a few comments that are missing in that thread. Some of them are mine, some aren't. I would like to point out though that I didn't bring this guy up. He showed up here in this thread of his own accord and opened his own mouth, when he did I merely pointed out that he perfectly fit the description of what dozens of us have been discussing for days now. In fact, I'm still on the fence on what I think of this guy. That is the reason I deleted my comments from the other thread in the first place. Those comments were me very clearly pointing out that the story in the thread was about was fiction and so was the sub it was in. He continued to talk shit to me and accuse me of being a shill. In fact, our very first encounters with each other was him accusing me of being a shill. And I'm sorry but I don't care how stupid the person is, I'm not going to put up with someone out of the blue attacking me and calling me names. I don't necessarily think this guy is a shill, I think he just assumed way too much and came at me like an asshole. I'm ok with that. Shit happens.

Understandable. I just gave my own perspective on the whole situation. You account of the incident is personal so naturally you have more insight. In regards to me, I still have no legitimate reason to suspect.

If you know the rules, why did you purposefully break it first while accusing another user of the same mistake?

everything i say is valid no matter how stupid it sounds

I.. what.. huh?

That's all you guys are saying is that im a dumb lurker because my account is 4 or 5 days old.

It has nothing to do with account age, it has to do with your activity in the sub.

They were opinions, tell me why i can't express an opinion without harassment.

OP created a post expressing his opinion, you called him and everyone else here a dick.

LURK. MOAR.