Indeed they were.

I'm sure we'll all be microchipped in March now, after our guns are taken away.

Oh wait that was last March...

I am alright with someone making a prediction about our future based on speculative critical thinking.

But as soon as you put a date on something and say THE WORLD IS GOING TO ABSOLUTELY FUCKING END WITHOUT A DOUBT ON JUNE 2nd 2014.

That's when i completely disregard you as reliable source.

That is why I hate trutherdotorg and other sites.

So, wild predictions based on wishful thinking and no evidence are okay, as long as no one puts a specific date on it ?

Sochi Olympics being bombed via a terrorist attack were no based on wishful thinking, especially not no evidence.

Like, you do know there were two bombings in Russia directly before the Olympics yes?

I'm pretty fucking sure that when Saudi Arabia threatens terrorist attacks, and then actually carries them out, that there is legitimacy to the supposition that they could do it again a few days later during the Olympics.

yeah

yep

Don't be foolish and think because it hasn't happened yet, they have not stopped trying. It is still in the works, and as we've seen, nothing will stop them. Failure after failure, they will continue to push forward. Sometimes lying dormant until the heat is off, and then right back into action.

I kid, I kid. Yes, that comment of mine was laden with smarmy sarcasm.

The chipping thing? I absolutely believe it. I'll believe Aaron Russo (RIP) before I believe a Rockefeller. And I too believe that they do in fact actively keep trying and trying.

Whether or not informed people actively thwart plans or not I do not know. I do know that they are losing control, are getting backed deeper into a corner more so every year, hell every month, and that they are petty, paranoid and cruel. And when they get backed up far enough they will lash out.

Even though their PR, the media, would have you believe the little man is powerless snd is losing, that is not quite true. We are winning, and growing in size daily. The world is waking up to the fantasy we've been sold as truth. We control the world. We simply need to keep pushing as we unify with our fellow brothers snd sisters against the true common enemy. Those who seek to decimate our coffers and enslave us.

They will not succeed. I repeat, they sill not succeed.

Window we know when were ready? (Pun opportunity I couldn't pass up, sorry. I suck.)

Puddle deep jokery on an auto-correct. SB

Puns aren't known for their depth, lighten up bud!

You can tell what you're saying is true because of how hard the subversive members in this community are trying to hide your comment.

Very, very true. They want you drugged and dumb. Not questioning your forced poisoning.

Venezuela and Ukraine

true.

how much oil does venezuela have?

LOL

Can you expand on what you mean by this?

Trutherdotorg loses again! Every single false flag prediction has been wrong and will be wrong in the future. Downvote and ignore.

Yeah, because there's totally no possibility that truther.org is ran as controlled opposition so as to discredit conspiracy theorists by continually engaging in behavior which produces wrong results such as making false flag predictions with absolutely no evidence to support them.

Hold on, so every time someone is wrong, it was all a psyop anyways? That's not really an argument.

No. Do not make false assertions based on misinterpreting what I say.

I am suggesting that there is a possibility that a lot of these sites do these crazy wrong predictions all the time in an attempt to make conspiracy theorists look bad.

It's like when people come on here with bs from 4chan and stuff like that.

And my point is that you have to be carful when you make those claims, as it often looks like you're just trying to explain why the theories were wrong. Don't forget that many people in this sub did believe in at least one of the false flag things.

Kudos to Russian Security.

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Except for in this instance our "neighbors" are Russia and Saudi Arabia, and Saudi Arabia didn't just appear to act suspiciously, they threatened terrorist attacks and then actually carried out TWO of them in Russia just days before the Olympics.

Nobody was fear mongering anybody, everybody was sharing their concerns that the event could be used to advance political agendas under the guise of terrorism based on the terrorism that just happened.

You mean people from Saudi Arabia. The state of Saudi Arabia did no such thing. Stop spreading ignorance.

But, but, but... 2012!

What am I missing here? There were two attacks committed by Saudi backed terrorist organizations... as promised... by Saudi Arabia. Just because Russia clamped down after that and caught on, doesn't mean the predictions weren't wrong. Two bombings happened, as promised by Prince Bandar and America jumped all over it to belittle Russia.

Thank you, people seem to forget that they were preparing for terrorist shenanigans as the Olympics as there were literally two bombings carried out leading up to the event.

The whole thing was a collaboration between the Saudis and US to make Russia look bad.

Anybody that can't see that is ignorant of the workings of global politics and history and factually verified reports.

To be fair, it doesn't make sense to execute a false-flag attack that people are already talking about before it happens, because validating those predictions means validating conspiracy theorists and fringe media.

This really leads into one of those circular logic type of situations.

How is this anywhere close to being circular logic?

If a false flag is planned in secret and kept secret until its' execution, it should be a sucess upon execution provided that the information which establishes the attacks planning remains secret.

Because it means that it's impossible to predict a false flag event and be incorrect. If you predict it and something happens, obviously you were right. If nothing happens, obviously they didn't want to validate your prediction.

Yes but that's not always the case.

There are a ton of predictions where absolutely nothing happens and it's not because "people knew too much for them to pull it off", it's because people are just straight up making false claims and predictions.

The Sochi Olympics had a credible possibility of being attacked, many pieces of evidence establish this.

Primarily, the two actual terrorist bombings that happened in Russia mere days prior to the Olympic events.

That and the "Illuminati" card game, which was published in 82 which shows images of the twin towers being attacked, the pentagon being attacked, a marathon being attacked, and a clock tower being attacked.

The clock tower image matches the actual Sochi Clock tower.

All of these things made the possibility of a terrorist attack on the games credible.

It didn't happen, I am glad, and I hope everybody else is too.

We should always keep our ears open and our eyes peeled, so that they are not able to enact events like this, which people may have prevented by discussing en mass before hand.

It's just one side of a coin, don't push it beyond what you actually know (and know you don't know) and it's a completely reasonable line of logic.

The hero complex and confirmation bias here is amazing. I constantly hear you people talk about how the illuminati like to leave little clues and messages for the masses to 'boast' or because satan requires it or something, and then all of a sudden they have to change their plans because some neckbeards on the internet revealed their terrible secret. Why would they 'leave clues' in the first place if people becoming 'aware' stops their evil plans? Zero logic.

This isn't a hivemind.

So what if a few people out of millions make some predictions and nothing happens, you think it discredits everyone else who researches these things?

In this case they weren't really predictions anyway because Saudi's actually threatened terrorism.

tru dat

They didn't just threatened they acted it out.

There were two bombings before the Olympics, did everybody forget?

People won't believe until they are the victims of crimes by our governments agenda, and then it will be too late and they will be silenced (9/11, Boston, Katrina, ect), they have already started putting homeless people in "Camps" we are next

I think the last time conspiracy theorists got an Olympic even right was Atlanta '96. I used to listen to these radio shows with dad on his ham radio and they were saying stuff like "Don't go to the Olympics! There is going to be an attack!" But then again, if you throw enough spaghetti at the wall some of it will stick.

We should steer clear of making predictions, really.

GridEx III. That's the one.

So let me get this straight, the basis of the government's Orwellian/stazi state is on terror and the media hyped up the plausibility of a terror attack due to the "black widow" and her network ties which didn't happen. Nothing happened..... (just as pointed out at the super bowl by the guy who hijacked the microphone)....... so the Orwellian state wins and stupid conspiritards lose?

This government spends billions and billions of our own tax dollars to violate our civil, inalienable, and constitutional rights. They demand we pay more in taxes and as Biden said "its patriotic." The inmates are running the effing prison.

Not necessarily.

When a lot of people come out and raise awareness of a possible false flag somewhere it MAY very well be enough to get the perpetrators to back down seeing that since so many people we're pre-warned that it would be foolish to do an attack as predicted.

Maybe they slink off and plan an attack somewhere else and hopefully get in under the radar. Just because something never happened doesn't mean something was not planned. It is simply impossible to say. So for anybody to use the lack of an event as "evidence" that those warning about such events are "deluded alarmists" is little more than troll talk.

When the percentage of false alarms is as high as in this subreddit, then the "deluded alarmists" cap becomes increasingly appropriate. Really, has there ever been a genuine, successful prediction made here? And I don't mean the uber-vague "six week cycle" which retro-fits cherry-picked events after they happen.

Just an FYI, most false alarms come from direct propaganda purposely designed to discredit people and the notion that events are planned.

This is how propaganda works, every now and again you have somebody release "insider" information about a possible "doomsday scenario" and the people guillable enough to believe it get online and start spreading it like its' the Gospel.

This is why it's highly likely that Alex Jones is a COINTEL agent meant to discredit the truth seeking free thinkers movement, or conspiracy theorists as some would say.

TL;DR - Just because some people make false predictions doesn't mean that every forwarning is a false prediction. Go read the nuclear bible, because that even only didn't happen because of that book and peoples awareness that the event would happen.

You can't make an event happen when it's already been exposed to too many members of the public.

While I fully agree Alex Jones is entirely unreliable, I think he's less likely a "COINTEL agent" than a simple fearmonger who profits nicely from the atmosphere he generates. That, I think, is more credible: false alarms are from those who want to feel important and/or generate hits to their website.

Unfortunately, I think the Nuclear Bible falls entirely into that category. What reliable evidence i.e. NOT from David Chase Taylor, can you provide that there was ever a nuclear terror attack planned for Super Bowl XLV?

Wow. I don't even know what to say to you.

false alarms are from those who want to feel important and/or generate hits to their website.

This is exactly what Alex Jones does. Publishing the NB didn't get David Chase Taylor more money or more importance, it forced him into asylum and he could possibly be imprisoned for life.

All of his evidence is reliable and it's not "from" him, it's independent sources and mainstream sources all gathered into one location.

That is all of the evidence, him having gathered it all into one place doesn't make it any less of credible.

He included pretty much everything, I don't need to add anything else to everything he already provided.

There were pieces to a puzzle, he gathered them a put a ton of them together.

Imprisoned for life? Really? Again: can I get some actual evidence for this, from someone apart from Taylor? For as well as borderline anti-Semitic - sorry, anti-"Zionist" - screeds, he also wrote:

http://truthernews.wordpress.com/2013/12/03/10-reasons-why-fast-furious-star-paul-walker-was-assassinated/

So, yeah: I've got to question his basic grip on reality, I'm afraid.

Yes, imprisoned for life. Like Bradley Manning or many other people who are fortunate to still be alive after having blown the whistle.

Others are dead from being murdered and tortured, they are not so lucky, but they are just as big a hero, whether their name gets touted around the news or not.

It seems that you're not genuinely taking the evidence as it is, and are letting an obscenely obtuse disdain towards the messanger get in your way of viewing the issue without bias.

There was absolutely nothing anti-semitic in his post, and I feel your claims of such are a weak attempt at dismissal and smearing.

Everything in that article you linked raises completely legitimate questions about the Paul Walker assassination.

The man was assassinated, anybody with any sense can understand that after having views the evidence surrounding the case wherein the "authorities" have put out information that is flat out untrue according to the rules of physics.

A vehicle travelling north at 70 miles per hour does not eject its' engine 30 yards behind it upon impact.

All of what he presented in the NB is ACTUAL EVIDENCE, stop trying to claim it isn't.

Prove it isn't. You can't.

Anyone can make outrageous claims. You may be happy to take these at face value, without supporting evidence to back them up. I'm not. If you choose to view that as "obscenely obtuse disdain," I'm entirely unbothered. Except for your use of the word "obtuse", because I'm very direct in my disdain for those who peddle unsupported claims like this.

Indeed, a cursory glance at Chase's supposed "evidence" shows basic factual errors. Let's take one example. "Just in time for the planned February 6, 2011 nuclear terror attack at Super Bowl XLV, the 3 major sports leagues of the America, the National Football League (NFL), the National Basketball Association (NBA), and Major League Baseball (MLB), all had simultaneous labor lockouts." That is pure bullshit. It simply did not happen.

That's "actual evidence" alright. It's evidence he's a deluded attention seeker, who makes stuff up.

You are nitpicking one supposed evidence which you have failed to cite the source for, something which mister Taylor included for every single source he provides.

How about the 100 plus other news articles that he cites and sources, what factual errors do those all consist of?

I don't see how your claim, supported by only one piece of supposed evidence, negates the entire premise he lays out with the hundreds of sources that all establish how exactly they were laying the groundwork to prepare people for this event.

Since you insist. Have this story from November 2011:

http://www.baseballnation.com/2011/11/23/2581637/major-league-baseball-cba-labor-agreement

Tuesday brought official word that Major League Baseball's players and owners had reached a new five-year labor agreement, just as the old CBA was set to expire [That's a full baseball season AFTER the supposed "lockout"]. At no point were fears entertained that the sides might reach an impasse - an agreement was always going to happen.

Good enough for you? His claim of an MLB lockout is flat-out MADE UP. Now, I focused on that because it happened to fall in my wheelhouse of expertise. But tell me: since he has been caught in a pure and simple lie there, why should I give the slightest credence to any of his other claims?

I could just as easily say there'll be a nuclear attack on the Oscars on Sunday - and if it doesn't happen, woo-hoo, it's all thanks to me for "exposing the plot".

Now i'm curious as to how you would define "deluded alarmist"

Deluded Alarmist:

A person who scares others about the possibilities of events taking place whilst having no solid evidence with which to support his suppositions.

There was a lot of solid evidence to support the supposition that there may be a terrorist attack at the Sochi Olympics, allow me to list the reasons.

1. Illuminati Card Game - Has card which show terrorist attacks which have happened since the games publication including 9/11 ( twin towers and pentagon ), Boston Marathon Bombing, and a clock tower being destroyed, the picture of which matches with the Sochi Clock Tower. That makes it seem like much more than coincidence.

2. Volvograd and other bombings that happened prior to the Sochi Olympics.

3. Media Fear Mongering reports of the potential that you may have all of your data stolen because Russia is heading security. A lot of fear mongering media which sets up precident for there to be an attack which could then be easily blamed on opposition forces for political gains, such as the United States using a terrorist bombing at the Olympics to justify their NSA program ( "SEE! Russia doesn't have an NSA an look what happened, you Americans should be THANKFUL for the NSA!" )

TL;DR - Deluded Alarmists are people who get whipped into a frenzy over planned propaganda such as Y2K.

Sharing with people the possibility of how an attack could happen so as to advance a political agenda is not deluded alarmism, it is critical thinking and speculation.

A good example might be if someone had tried to warn everyone about Operation Northwoods, it wouldn't have happened and whoever said it was going to would've been labeled fucking insane.

If the "saudi backed terrorists" would have taken action at Sochi the US would have started a WW with Russia.

The whole point of the threat as we know now is to punish/threaten Russia so it would stay out of Ukraine/Venezuela/Syria....

They are not stupid. With so much publicity, they simply pushed the date out. This same thing happened with the Superbowl at the last minute. More false flags are to follow, with the apex being staged alien invasion. Mark my words. They will use this to justify unified (one) world government. To fight against this new common enemy.

with the apex being staged alien invasion. Mark my words. They will use this to justify unified (one) world government. To fight against this new common enemy.

Now that is certainly an interesting theory.

They've been setting it up for over 70 years now.

Alien propaganda is deeply rooted in the public mind so much so that they will believe a fake alien invasion.

That is the point of movies like Men In Black.

That is the point of the Roswell event.

That is the point of crop circles.

That is the point of War of the Worlds.

Aliens are the largest mass deception ever to be pulled over the eyes of the public.

The government has been using it to deceive and divide and conquer since 1926 at least.

Are you implying that the possibility of alien lifeforms existing is simply a massive hoax?

No not the possibility, but there supposed "established contact" with our government being "kept secret" is what I feel is part of the massive alien hoax.

Ah, ok.

War of the Worlds

Yes, everyone knows that Orson Welles reported the alien invasion in 1938 in his radio broadcast 'The War of the Worlds', only to be forced by the aliens to retract it all as fiction! /s

War of the Worlds was a psyop to see how guillable the American populace was to the idea of an Alien Attack. The primary purpose was to see if their alien propaganda had been working on said populace.

Since people actually panicked upon thinking the broadcast was real, I'm pretty sure the operation was a raving success.

Ha ha ha ha ha!

Was HG Wells in on it too?

They have been building it since the first staged abductions during early MK Ultra testing. Our world leaders have publicly fantasized about it. It's the one logical plan they can execute to destroy national borders. They have been searching for a common enemy for as long as I can recall. When nature failed, they will execute the next plan. An external force that we "must" join to defeat. All of the sightings and media to date has been preparing the world for this great "revelation." Sadly, it's all lies.

Our world leaders have publicly fantasized about it.

Source?

By "it's all lies" do you mean to argue that Earth is the only planet/celestial body sustaining life?

That aliens visit the earth and fuck with humans. Only other humans fuck with humans.

with the apex being staged alien invasion.

... what?

Yeah... oh boy...

Do a little research on Project Bluebook, I believe it's called. Much bullshit mixed into the likely truth.

This will be the next great false flag to push unified governance.

Beam. Not book. Just saying.

Thank you for the clarification.

Project Bluebeam

I know about Bluebook. Can you point me to some actual proof about your theory?

Here

Where is one going to find proof of such? It's reseach, history, open eyes, and common sense. We are all on our own path. There is that which is definitely proven, and that which is speculated based on evidence on hand.

It's reseach, history, open eyes, and common sense.

Yes, absolutely zero of which point to an alien invasion. Most of them point directly to secretive government projects, or even more likely, visual/natural anomalies. I have yet to see anything pointing towards something not from this earth. That is what I'm asking for.

Here

Best of luck.

It seems there are certain users here downvoting your comments and mine as well that do not want people thinking that aliens is a government hoax with which they can simulate an alien invasion so as to launch their world government.

If you haven't seen it I've written a couple times a more in depth expose on everything else they plan to accomplish in pushing the alien hoax ( mainly divide and conquer so as to control the populace ).

Project Blue Beam.

Nighthawk,

I hope, to be balanced, when months from now no Al Qaeda shoe bomb plot comes to pass, you will post that here as well. That alarm was sounded by the most powerful warmongering country on the planet - spread like wild fire through all the major news outlets into the brains of millions of Americans.

spread like wild fire through all the major news outlets into the brains of millions of Americans.

Sort of like the silliness of shoe/toothpaste bombs. And the evil menacing 'Al Qaeda'.

Please, don't mention Al Qaeda, I am shaking in my boots !

Oh darn, no bombings? Guess we all have to accept the Russians got the security thing down pat.

No, there were two bombings in Russia before the Olympics, which was a warning to them to get their shit together so that it doesn't actually happen at the Olympics.

We did it! We're pretty great.

Honestly, I think the government is going to try and use a false flag attack to go to war with Iran. It'll just happen when we least expect it.

The system themselves put these warnings out like the 2012 Olympics. Its designed for all truthers to look stupid and wrong.

I hate this argument. Everytime a group of conspiracy theorists make a mistake (or are just completely wrong) it's the system doing it to make them look bad. But every time they're right, they were right all along, and aren't as blind as the sheeple.

Do you have a shred of proof to show that it was "the system" trying to make you look bad?

By "the system themselves put these warnings out" I think he means that they selectively report on stories which through fear mongering and targetted talking points they further exacerbate peoples fears of the possibilities of events taking place.

This is what all those "insider sources" talking about DHS purchases and shit are all about.

"Hey guys, better freak out about martial law happening on X date that anonymouse government man says because this document shows that DHS just obtained 1,000 military vehicles from the Army."

People can either be rational and think "Well we certainly don't need MRAPS on our suburban streets, though I do see the financial justification in giving no longer needed military surplus vehicles to local law enforcement agencies. As much as I distrust them for their potential to be abused, I can see where this program makes sense."

Or you can be an insane person and think "Oh SHIT I'd better prep up so the gubment don't kill me in my house, even though they have fucking space lasers if they really wanted to kill my paranoid ass that bad."

One legitimate example of "the system" trying to make the conspiracy movement look bad is when they purposely had people witch hunting wrong people in looking for the Boston Bombing Marathon suspects.

It was the perfect play for TPTB to say "You guys can't trust anything anybody says on the internet, look what happened to this poor guy that got singled out wrongly! Only trust official sources from the police who you can completely trust and have never been caught lying, stealing, dealing drugs, destroying evidence, murdering, or lying, did we say they'll never lie to you? Because they totally won't........."

Sorry I may have messed up what they said but I think you get the point I am trying to make here.

But they do this on youtube all the time. I am not saying there arent regular ppl who will buy into it but there is a good chance that the system puts it out there so ppl will preach about it then it doesnt happen. Then all truthers look stupid because they generalize all internet conspiracies

I'm not talking about whether or not it could happen. Of course it could. My point is that you said that it did happen, without anything to back it up.

I didnt say anything happened

The system themselves put these warnings out like the 2012 Olympics.

The system themselves put these warnings out like the 2012 Olympics.

You directly stated that it happened. Don't backpedal, I just want a source.

I am not saying it happened but before the 2012 olympics all these videos were saying that something big was gonna happen and nothing did so to me I think the system starts these things and ppl buy into it and when nothing does the ppl who said there will be look stupid. Its my opinion

Ukraine ousted their PM weeks after an American Official discussed such an event?

This just a few hundred miles from the Olympics, during the two weeks of the Olympics.

And they are not related?

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Nope.

See, because there was so much chatter, it prevented them from going ahead with it.

We won that round.

tru dat

They didn't just threatened they acted it out.

There were two bombings before the Olympics, did everybody forget?

Because it means that it's impossible to predict a false flag event and be incorrect. If you predict it and something happens, obviously you were right. If nothing happens, obviously they didn't want to validate your prediction.

Since you insist. Have this story from November 2011:

http://www.baseballnation.com/2011/11/23/2581637/major-league-baseball-cba-labor-agreement

Tuesday brought official word that Major League Baseball's players and owners had reached a new five-year labor agreement, just as the old CBA was set to expire [That's a full baseball season AFTER the supposed "lockout"]. At no point were fears entertained that the sides might reach an impasse - an agreement was always going to happen.

Good enough for you? His claim of an MLB lockout is flat-out MADE UP. Now, I focused on that because it happened to fall in my wheelhouse of expertise. But tell me: since he has been caught in a pure and simple lie there, why should I give the slightest credence to any of his other claims?

I could just as easily say there'll be a nuclear attack on the Oscars on Sunday - and if it doesn't happen, woo-hoo, it's all thanks to me for "exposing the plot".