Disclaimer: Just because we're discussing this incident in /r/conspiracy doesn't mean everyone here thinks it was a conspiracy.

It's sad that this has to be stated. People can't even come to this sub for any reason without being attacked. People need to learn to keep an open mind.

I usually am on /r/conspiracy but this time I came from /r/worldnews because some guy in the comments made fun of us here and linked the subreddit..

It's because they suffer from the hive mind. They are told what to think and they do it. They think we all believe in Reptilians and the illuminati and can't fathom that people actually make up their own minds on issues.

Chemtrails, sandy hook and the Boston bombing posts keep everyone far away from this sub.

Those are not the problem. The problem is with those topics, not everyone knows all the information, or believe the wrong information and are here to find that.

It goes on both sides of the official story with those though, people claim they have a fact or evidence but in reality its speculation.

That does not help get new members, and does scare people away.

Indeed. I'm on the fence about a lot of stuff, and I'd rather not get the official narrative from the popular subs, which is why I come here. Still, people need to learn to weed through the bullshit.

That's pretty much where I sit on most of these stories, I don't know what truly happened due to limited information. And trying to jump to a conclusion on one side or the other does not help.

I enjoy this sub because it presents a very differing view than the MSM we see everyday and allows more than a single biased view.

There is a lot of BS to wade through though, thats the truth haha.

And the people who cite blogspot as "sources" LOL

The truth hurts. Hard to imagine that these events could have been staged and they have been fooled again.

Actually, that is not the problem. People generalizing and projecting are the problem. See: your comment.

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I don't believe in chem trails but I do find things strange when investigating the Sandy Hook shooting

I instantly suspected the Sandy Hook conspiracy theories of being disinfo, so much so that I didn't even look into it for a whole year. When I did, I found some of the weirdness surrounding the case very interesting.

Maybe it's just really good disinfo. I've been fooled before, I was fooled for a minute today.

My wildest theory is that Sandy Hook was an intentionally obvious hoax to test the limits of psychological manipulation and drive a deeper wedge between "conspiracy theorists" and the rest of the population. Suggesting Sandy Hook even might have been a hoax will get you lynched in most social situations.

Your opinions on what attracts & rejects interest in this sub appears moot. Maybe you should look at the commonality seen on the post here, & that seems to be the act of questioning the information many are fed. Did you ponder for a minute that maybe these incidents are the 9/11 for a younger generation? & instead of disregarding theories (that despite their insanity seem to be growing in perspectives question a said topic based off your own observations of commonality) maybe help push them to other incidents with more investigation? i.e. 9/11, The Reichstag, or any of the phoney pretexts used to start war. Also shouldn't judge an entire sub off of one theory about a fake town.

If sandy hook was a hoax, what has ot accomplished?

Pure & simple Fear in the minds of people, around every corner, in every location. Allows for the 'security measures' that are ramped up more easily accepted in the minds of the populace. The more fear in the minds of the people, the more power can be obtained. I will not try to define this incident, because I accept that it can not be defined. But Wolfgang Halbig has raised some seemingly simple questions about the incident that have gone unanswered or ignored, so some serious issues are present in the understanding of Sandy Hook.

Please get help brother.

& where exactly should I get this, help? Go get drugs prescribed to me by a psychiatrist? Maybe a little behavioral therapy to change any 'insane' ideas I may hold, which still haven't seemed to disrupts my 7 day work week, or my personal life with family & friends.

Seriously if you don't have anything to say about THE CONTENT of my post, why even bother to respond?

Chemtrails are real.. Just look up

Exactly.

If only they could realize that it's not the "ninja turtles" we're trying to bring out to the public but 'shredder' a more human like portray of the government.

People need to learn to keep an open mind.

People also need to keep Occam's Razor in their front pocket.

Well. We are at a time in where seeking the truth ("truther") is a bad thing.

A Boeing passenger jet disappears for 5 days in the 21st Century.

Believe me. This is a conspiracy.

You are an ignoramus, the name of the thread is "R/CONSPIRACY", believing contributions trend towards conspiratorial is hardly an unfounded leap.

Ignoramus means "one who ignores". If i were to say, "you are ignoring the name of the subreddit" would you find it equally personal? This is getting ridiculous. if that is not too personal.

Here's a theory: The plane was stolen by the pilot and co-pilot. That's why the emergency transponder was not activated, why the phones were still active, why there is a report of a u-turn, and why they are searching the Straight of Malaca hundreds of miles away.

What happens to the plane next?

cont.: After informing of hijacking, it was shot down by the Malaysian, army with Chinese authority, over the Malacca strait in order to prevent a 9/11-style attack.

All communication and information about the flight was made confidential, and the searches over the South China Sea were intentionally misleading to give the Malaysian authorities time to cover-up the incident.

I really hope I'm wrong ...

So now there's some building in China loaded with thermite that they can't blow up because the plane didn't make it?

Then China would blame the Philippines to give them course to invade the Philippines and take over the contested ocean grounds? We must go deeper!

Haha, but yeah... I was given to conspiracy at one point, out of frustration over the logic in the SAR so far. I think this is really just Malaysia's incompetence. Their air force, transportation department, and national airlines (MH) all gave 3 different answers about whether passaengers booked or failed to board, as of 4 hours ago, they still are saying different things...

Air force general says they had primary radar contact in the Malacca Straight, and now transportation department is saying "nope" (though I don't know how/why they would have primary radar).

Some news is coming out that Chinese presence in Kuala Lumpur is increasing in the past day and that they are taking a more direct role in "advising" the Malaysian and multinational SAR effort.. I hope to god... Malaysia has really bungled this from the start.

I initially thought when I heard about all this that the Chinese were using this whole thing as an attempt to sneak their military into Asia and the S. China Sea and then launch an attack. Although I'm not sure what purpose that would serve as they could likely over power the rest of Asia by themselves without having to be so sneaky about it if they decided that's what they wanted to do I suppose.

Well if you look at it, they already have. They've pretty much taken over the Philippines with businessmen who control many many aspects and they have their fingers in the PH government like its nobodies business.

 The media has reported the supposed incompetence of the Malaysian military. Specifically: we are to believe FH370 flew unidentified and unchallenged across four Malaysian radar zones, due to the lax or incapable monitoring of their national defense system. No jets were scrambled, no attempts were made to identify this aircraft or contact it. A theory could be put forth that The Malaysian authorities were in fact in contact with those in control of MH370 and - under threat of harm to the passengers - allowed flight FH370 to cross Malaysian territory unmolested. Another issue hiding under the veil of incompetent Malaysian officialdom is the bungling of search operations; slow or misleading information releases and ham-handed management of public relations. If examined in its entirety, one gets the impression that they are intentionally misinterpreting events in order to buy more time. Buy more time for what? Negotiations? Redeployment of assets? Hard to say, but these new wider search parameters will allow more time for whatever is really going on. 

 I pray that each and every soul on flight MH370 is returned safely to their loved ones.

I do agree that Malaysia has bungled this from the start - whether from incompetence or not.

Thank you for saving my typing fingers.

Ah, the ol' late night left-hand-only typing style.

No, that building just gets blown up anyway.

A couple of windows with fires are "severe damage" and then it simply collapses throught the path of greatest resitance at free-fall speed.

to prevent a 9/11-style attack

Remote controlled planes were used in 9/11. This was a standard commercial airlines.

I have the same theory, the plane was hijacked and flown off course for a reason. The emergency transponder and GPS both disabled before setting a course for Pakistan, or somewhere similar. There are a ton of airports that could accommodate a plane of that size but most likely would need to land in an unmarked/private field to limit detection. After the landing they clear the plane of its passengers and load it with a payload (nuclear, biological, explosive) and reskin the exterior of the fuselage to cloak it as a different carrier. With the new look/signal and the payload on board they fly into a heavy populated area undetected and detonate their cargo. Even after the terrorist event transpires they will have the ability to negotiate given they have 200+ hostages now in the undisclosed location.

UPDATE: Just read about the computer vulnerabilities DESCRIBED HERE. It would seem that it would take 'young', 'intelligent' hackers to take control of the plane electronically. I wonder if you can disable the GPS/transponder from the on board network.

reskin the exterior of the fuselage to cloak it as a different carrier.

Here's a time lapse video of an Emirates 777 being repainted: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wIiLjhPlox0

The whole process takes a fortnight. Getting the paintwork wrong or inconsistent can actually be a safety hazard and affect aerodynamics.

What large group of people on a terrorist payroll would carry out this work and where would it be done? BIG job and it sounds like something out of a Die Hard movie.

No doubt it would require many men to accomplish, but given the dedication of some people to commit atrocities in world, it would be entirely probable. But really the transponder is the identification they would need to change/cloak. The visual exterior would only be necessary if they had provoked an escort.

Are transponders removed from airplanes sent to graveyards? Are they 'deactivated' in a database somewhere to mark them as inactive?

I equally wanna know this. Some guy somewhere knows.

If not, how easy would it be to hot wire a transponder from a graveyard plane onto the 777?

The one on the aircraft would work fine. Just turn it on or off. Also, if trying to mask an aircraft why use one from another plane? Both your knowledge and logic are flawed.

You can also purchase them on ebay. But this is an interesting thought.

Any transponder could work. You get a code before each flight that identifies you and you put it into the box. Just like a captcha, it only works for one flight.

That's gotta be the worst, absolutely worst case scenario because it seems very do-able.

The chills man......

There is a definitive reason why they chose a plane that was fueled up enough to travel that distance. To much work goes into a plan like this to just blow it up over the ocean, I believe the terrorists know that this is an old tactic. Fear is most effective if consumed over a long period of time. The masses would most likely be upset regarding the destruction of a passenger plane but will not FEAR it. Terrorism is not effective without fear. So the possible hostage negotiation with added payload would keep all countries in the region on high alert.

If the goal was just 200+ hostages, aren't there less elaborate ways to do that?

Not to make a clean getaway with international hostages

Less elaborate? Yes. More scary? Well... what's scarier than just inexplicably vanishing? Plus international hostages gives you more bargaining leverage, plus take them anywhere you want under a cloak of secrecy before moving to the step where you reveal that you have them, plus obtain a valuable re-usable asset (Boeing 777 isn't free). That's a lot of plusses.

I'm not sure about the feasibility just yet, but there are a lot of good reasons for a terrorist organization to attempt something like that.

primary radar would of still detected the B772 even with transponder off...

The transponder code is just something they give you before the flight, each transponder does not have a unique signature. Also, why would they paint the aircraft at all? You know radar does not show an actual visual image of the aircraft.. Correct? TLDR transponders are not unique to a particular aircraft. Why paint an aircraft no-one knows exists or can see?

They would repaint it (if they did) for approach/escort, tail number etc. Transponder was OFF before the plane turned to head west.

OK, so which aircraft will they paint it like that would make it less specific? Air India? United? KAL? This is an improbable idea.

Well, everyone is ruling out terrorism.. Reports from an oil rig indicate it was on fire while in the air. The best ideas are the ones 'everyone' believe to be improbable. If i was to guess they would paint it or tag it to resemble an aircraft in the same fleet as they would only need to change the numbers.. Maybe they will paint it like Airforce 1 and roll around the world like big ballers until someone notices.

Anyone have any info on how difficult/easy it would be for pilots to deactivate the transponder and GPS system?

"That would appear to rule out sudden catastrophic mechanical failure, as it would mean the plane flew around 500 km (350 miles) at least after its last contact with air traffic control, although its transponder and other tracking systems were off." SOURCE

Apparently transponder can be flicked on/off from cockpit. Not sure if same for GPS, but likely.

http://aviation.stackexchange.com/questions/2160/is-it-possible-for-a-modern-commercial-airplane-namely-boeing-777-to-stop-bein

That's correct, it's done so the pilot can turn everything unnecessary off if something happens to the power.

Interesting. Does anyone know of any other uplink from the plane to a central farm somewhere? I know there are concerns about the 777's internal network and what is able to be accessed from its network.

You'd have to have the satellite uplink code in order to do this.

Ah thanks for clearing that up for me

You would have to be able to push one button. GPS tells you where you are, not everyone else.

Repainted? Unlikely.

A second plane, same model, ready to go and resume transponder codes and flight path? Much more likely.

This is my worst case Scenario. A crude nuke delivered by what is apparently a commercial flight. The 777 has up to a 9300 nm range. rip out all of the seats and everything not needed for flight and I bet you could extend that.

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Except you have no way of proving that it's what's actually happening. Seeing things were there are none... connecting dots where none exist.

I have observed this behavior on both the Verizon and T-Mobile networks in the US, without even voice forwarding.

The point is that hearing a ring when you dial a number is NOT a proof that a phone someone else is ringing, and so it's a less-significant data point

This. Turn your own phone off or pull the battery even. Dial the number from another phone and you will hear ringing.

Until you know that is what is happening it is still is a data point. The significance can only be established when we KNOW what the situation is

It's a bad datapoint for this event because it occurs in phones not involved in the event, and has occurred both before and after the event. In other words, nothing changed about hearing a ring when calling a disabled phone.

no way of proving that it's what's actually happening. Seeing things were there are none... connecting dots where none exist.

This is the de facto motto for Truthers.

At least they have a motto. Liars like you have a script to read off that requires no critical thinking.

Proof?

Proof.

My comment history is proof I am running off a script??

Reported.

Reported. lol

The strategy being used here to distract from any meaningful conversation is simply to argue with the person instead of the issue.

Useless baby account shitting disinfo? Hi

Apparently Boeing warned of a computer takeover of the 777. http://beforeitsnews.com/politics/2014/03/boeing-warned-of-computer-takeover-of-777-2604242.html

The airplane can be taken out of autopilot and fly fine if this happens.

That's actually a pretty compelling theory.

I would point out that there isn't any evidence that "the phones are still active" - a cell phone "ringing" doesn't mean anything. I call people whose phones e.g. have run out of power and I often get several rings before going to voicemail. But overall this theory is strong and covers all the solid information.

Honestly, the plane breaking up in midair due to gross mechanical failure or a bomb or a collision with a clandestine plane (drug smuggling) also covers all the facts. If there were a catastrophic problem, they might have turned the plane around and then had the plane fall apart - pilots are trained aviate, navigate, communicate (in that order) during an emergency, and it's fairly frequent that pilots never get a chance to speak to anyone in catastrophes).

The longer it goes without anyone announcing they have the plane, the more unlikely this scenario becomes. We'll know soon.

I disagree that a sudden and catastrophic loss of structural integrity due to mechanical failure, collision, or a weapon covers all of the 'facts' we have. Why would anyone search the Straight of Malacca hundreds of miles to the west?

At this point, I admitt I'm veering into the tinfoil hat side of things, but if the plane was stolen to be used as a bomber by, say Iran or the Norks, we'd never hear of it. I looked at a map showing international flights into the us and SF is a likely target for a crude (Iranian or North Korean) nuke.

Wasn't there someone of importance on board? I remember seeing in a thread around the time on reddit of a list of passengers and I remember a few of them standing out.

Why would they steal the plane?

My speculation is to use it as a weapon or a weapon delivery platform.

If it was hijacking the question you have to ask is who on the plane. As in, maybe this is an underworld job it something like that.

I'd say that it's kind of hopeless unless they cloaked themselves and landed somewhere where there aren't any fishermen. It seems nearly impossible to fly somewhere unnoticed while running out of fuel.(Just a speculation I have no knowledge about fuselage/amount and aircrafts).

If a fisherman saw an aircraft fly overhead, how would he know it was the missing plane or just another plane? I looked and the 777 has a range of over 9000! (9,395 nautical miles), so there is a very large area where it could be. If a hostile government was involved, a landing spot is a trivial problem.

Not. It's simple, they announced they called out to approx. 20k fishermen etc. to report any sightings and apparently a duo has reported spotting an airplane in the West coast.

So what I tried to say was that they'll just report the sightings and the military and other federal powers will figure out wether it's the plane or not.

Yeah don't you think it's odd that the pilot had a full on flight simulator setup? Like to perhaps practice how to do whatever he was planning.

i dont understand why everyone finds it weird that a pilot has a flight simulator on his PC?

Because the setup he had was very elaborate and most people don't like to bring work home with them. If you are a commercial pilot and have years of experience flying almost every day as your day job why would you want to do that when you get home as well?

It could be viewed in either a positive or negative light.

Eh idk. Flying jumbo jets is boring. And I imagine one might become a pilot because one loves flying. A flight simulator can help him experience more fun aircraft.

More and more evidence supports this being a controlled human action.

Call me optimistic, call me insane, or just call me a kook, but I'm kinda wishing/hoping that it's our first grand encounter/ alien abduction that can be noted in human civilization.

Same feeling, it sounds terrible, but damn that would be awesome.

I mean, my first hope is for the families, being in that situation, I could not imagine the sheer terror, pain, and anguish that they must feel and I want them all to be 100 percent healthy and unharmed.

But if there is an answer to this puzzle, at least let it be one that is unimaginable, yet not fatal to any of the persons involved.

I'm just hoping it's some guerrilla marketing for Godzilla. The way the plane does a U-turn and then disappears, was it trying to get away from something?

So do I, solely for the fact that this has been mainstream news for a while now, which means it would be hard as hell for any govt to cover-up now. The world will want answers and it's gonna be hard as hell to cook up a believable story with evidence, but it is pretty far-fetched.

New to this sub, but now I'm leaving

Fucking crazies

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funny you should mention this....

https://higherdensity.wordpress.com/2014/03/11/breaking-news-ashtar-identifies-ukraine-ufo-locates-flight-370-survivors-sirius-ufo-brings-world-peace-channeler-dr-kathryn-e-may-3-11-14/

i treat stuff like this the same as ben fulfords stuff - I WANT TO BELIEVE

...wat

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Anyone else entertain the notion that this airplane is intact on the ground somewhere?

If it is, I have a hypothesis on where it might have been headed. I'm highly skeptical of it, but here's some food for thought if you're looking for a conspiracy.

If you take the route shown in this CNN report, and extend that line, it seems to lead directly to Diego Garcia, home of US Air Force and Navy bases in the middle of the Indian Ocean.

Since a straight line on Google Maps isn't always the most direct route over the surface of the earth, I used this site, which generates a great circle route using the Google Maps API. This is the route it came up with.

The points at which that route crosses the Malay Peninsula are virtually identical to CNN's map, and the line continues directly to Diego Garcia, home of lots of US military shit, an emergency landing site for long-range twin-engine airliners, and formerly a Space Shuttle emergency landing site.

It probably doesn't mean anything, but it's kind of interesting.

Very interesting suggestion. I am very familiar with Diego Garcia. My airframe flew out of there while I was in the Air Force.

Or, it is a known fact that the Chinese military, FSB and CIA operate many secret runways in and around the Southeast Asia region. Some of these runways can be hidden from spy satellite imagery. With as much disinformation swirling around this incident, I just get the feeling in my gut that this plane didn't crash.

I find it a bit humerus you're believing content by CNN here.

CNN now thinks the plane is either on top of or inside Mt Everest.

Yes, either it did crash and it hasn't been found or there is a cover up of an complete destruction of the plane. A hijacking/kidnap would be the next best theory. There are reports of 20 employee's of a Texas company who made semi-conductors.

The questions should be asked if any of these people are significant standing within the company, either financially or through development of technology. The notion that these 20 people were kidnapped by a foreign power, either government or group should be suspected.

Who knows though.

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Damn that's spooky, a ghost plane full of unconscious/dead people gliding with cell phones still ringing.

Reminds me of

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1999_South_Dakota_Learjet_crash

That's like something out of the Twilight Zone. Imagine being the one guy who got paranoid and popped the oxygen mask compartment and put on the mask, only to see everyone else pass out, all before the plane begins a descent. A creepypasta in the making.

I don't imagine the masks are portable either so you would have to choose between breathing and trying to figure out what was going on.

Yeah, they're connected to a line. so you're just stuck sitting there, looking around, and trying not to freak out. Either way, as soon as the plane's descent begins to increase you're shitting yourself.

Thank you for this in depth article.

If this is indeed what happened, whoever came up with this theory needs to get a job within the ntsb or whichever other safety transportation board if he/she is not there already. The world needs more competence.

http://twitpic.com/dy1qmm that would also support this claim

Some mikejmckay@hotmail.com is about to get his mailbox pretty filled up.

I would bet that's some troll who's got time to lose, since it's been sent from a hotmail and not a company e-mail. If he was really working on an oil rig, surely he would not have been the only one working there to see it, and there would be some official calls being made.

That makes so much sense. It would also explain the slow leak of information put out there.

I mean if it was known that these types of planes had these issues, and that this particular plane was 14 years old, then there would be some serious lawsuits out there. If this was an oversight or lack of an inspection that lead to this disappearance then that's disgusting. Negligence is a bitch.

Just some "out there" thinking:

• What was the big in the news before this plane went missing? Don't these mysteries tend to captivate audiences and detract attention from arguably more important news? Bonus round: The Malay government is hiding the plane and passengers, hired out by Russia, maybe?

• Could they have been coerced to Somalia?

This could have been a major false flag event in order to declare the Malaysian search efforts as inadequate (even though it really isn't) and move in their navy into Malaysian territory. The Spratly Islands dispute between Malaysia and China has further tensed with China conducting military exercises only just a few miles from Malaysia only a few days earlier. The Spratly Islands are said to be very resource rich with Oil and Natural Gas deposits. Malaysia's sovereignty may be under serious threat.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spratly_Islands_dispute

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I've had this thought pop up in my head aswell. Ever since the missing MH370, I feel like all the news of Ukraine/Crimea have disappeared.

I feel like all the news of Ukraine/Crimea have disappeared.

What does your feelings have to do with it? The story is still there and is still being heavily covered.

According to CNN you are correct. Nothing but missing plane 24/7.

I am watching CNN right now and they are covering Crimea. They are covering a lot of things

I don't think you understand what "ongoing story" means, when they have reporters assigned to stories then they will be providing updates on the news regarding that story. Nothing has changed significantly in Crimea while new information is constantly coming out about the missing flight.

Obama used the Ukraine/Crimea situation as an excuse to declare a nation emergency in our country. And then a plane disappeared two days later and made everybody forget.

I'm concerned that something big is about to go down in our country and we're being distracted from seeing it.

There has been no declaration of National Emergency yet, Obama stated he wanted to, but it has not happened yet.

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According to my common sense, it would be pretty hard to make a domestic flight just "disappear" over American soil without any trace, unlike the Malaysian Airline flying over an ocean near a different country.

And I'm pretty sure this is the executive order Obama just signed on 3/6/2014 declaring a national emergency. Right there on the whitehouse's own webpage. http://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/2014/03/06/executive-order-blocking-property-certain-persons-contributing-situation

And our entire country has been completely distracted by this "water cooler" talk of Malaysian Airlines flight 370 that disappeared all the way on the other side of the world. Yet it's all over the news in every news channel in our country. Last I checked, that IS the definition of a national story. Furthermore, when something in our country is heavily publicized in the media as this has been and everyone is looking the other way, there usually is something USA/NSA/CIA/POTA related that is afoot. Perhaps you should study up on the history of proven U.S. false flags.

That was an executive order, him writing in that it is a national emergency does not make it a declaration of emergency. The primary features of the US declaration of emergency are the suspension of habious corpus and the mobilization of the National Guard (it depends on the order).

Good on you for reading that executive order and thanks for linking it, I wouldn't have read it otherwise. But it was not actually a national state of emergency as much as it was rhetoric

The U.S has ground to air missiles capable of making planes parts the size of a baby fist. If they wanted to hide something they would create a domestic issue. The missing plane is getting a lot of coverage but it wouldn't cove up large U.S news.

Obama used the Ukraine/Crimea situation as an excuse to declare a nation emergency in our country.

When? I haven't even heard of this.

EXACTLY

The US likes to bomb for those occasions.

Well there is the ex-deputy PM Anwar Ibrahim story - the big story you were asking about.

And some context (under the 'Malaysia' section).

I suspect it's a distraction from the president declaring a national emergency last Thursday, which gives him executive powers over all government agencies, military, and local law enforcement that is necessary for implementing martial law.

Because that shit just happened and nobody even noticed or realized the gravity of it because they were too distracted by this widely publicized plane that went mysteriously went missing at the same time.

Not everything is related to the USA!

Which president? What was the emergency?

I was unaware that a state of emergency was declared till just now actually. Funny thing is, where I work I flip between news channels for my 12 hour shift. I'm sure I missed it while cycling through them or doing my job, but I feel like I should've seen something on one of the big news networks.

Perhaps you should try non-mainstream, non-government manipulated media sources for factually accurate current events. The government is only going to show you news they want you to see and that shines a good light on them.

Here's the executive order Obama just signed. It includes invoking the National Emergency Act. http://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/2014/03/06/executive-order-blocking-property-certain-persons-contributing-situation

I do like to go to Drudge Report, but I've been lazy the past few days.

Hmmmmm something just isn't right with this... Each day I have expected to hear they have found the plane and have an explanation but still have nothing....

I mean its 2014, an airplane can not just disappear.. Especially with our technology.

Happens fairly frequently - indeed, the last big crash, Air France flight 447 just two years ago, played out much like this one, with no wreckage found for over five days.

Remember - the ocean is vast!

Debris was found from that one in around 24 hours.

ACARS messages made it quite clear that that aircraft was in distress and have some indication of what the issues were.

Remember if/when they find the plane doesn't mean you'll have a complete explanation of what happened. Investigations like these can take years.

Just interested in what they say took so long...

I mean its 2014, an airplane can not just disappear.. Especially with our technology.

This.

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The aircraft was headed in the direction of Diego Garcia - US military installation that launches drones in the Indian Ocean. Look at a map.

I think it was shot down after it headed that way. The wreckage is outside the search area).

Reuters link

For Malaysian military now reveals it tracked MH370 to Malacca straits

Anyone seen Event Horizon? It went to Hell.

EDIT: HOLD ON, BABY BEAR!

I'm just going to start by saying. You are all way over my head in terms potentially legitimate theories and conspiracies. This is just the theory that I keep coming back to.

The more I hear about the increasing role of Interpol, and what I see as their future in preventing passport theft, and holding airlines and countries accountable for violations of such. I would appreciate any opinions on my theory.

The role of Interpol and the stolen passports are actually a huge part of this. This whole thing is a 9/11 style conspiracy so that Interpol can use it as leverage to force other countries and airlines to start putting in place airport security, surveillance, and controls similar in nature to those that are in place in the USA since 9/11.

This is more about the politics of controlling other countries in the future than it is about anything else.

Just a theory I've been working on. Interpol is on the radio, the news, TV media, they are quickly becoming the face of this issue. The talk has been bolstered around the notion of improving the search and identification methods in other countries.

Something from the mainstream media that highlights what I have been feeling in the past few days can be seen here

It's a small step but it just seems like one that is too post 9/11 reminiscent to me.

I also called that one 23 hours ago and I actually emailed friends about it three days ago. I'm a pertpetual traveller and computer scientist so what can I do but spot their bullshit lockdown game with increasingly centralized computer systems.

Question: Why did the Malaysian military take so long to release their information about the plane's appearance in the Strait of Malacca? Their radar picked up the plane before it disappeared (by definition), yet everyone spends 5 days investigating a completely different region.

What's going on? Why didn't they come forward with this critical information earlier?

I'm just surprised its not in the news articles. It would be the first thing a reporter should ask: "if you knew of this immediately, why did you let the search continue in the north?"

I agree. Very baffling. What possible reason would there be to delay this? Is there any chance they didn't know they had tracked it when really they did?

They must have known. And you would think they would scramble at least one fighter after 911

Just because they didn't tell YOU, doesn't mean they didn't tell anyone.

yes but they sent international rescue teams to the wrong location for 3 days.

on the otherhand now the Malaysian authorities are denying the plane was ever located over the Malacca strait, while maintaining that it did return, they are not sure where it was headed.

I will say that flight radar is unreliable. I personally tracked a flight my wife took last year and it showed that the flight had turned around 180 degrees and was headed back. I had never been so worried in my life. After about 45 min of showing the wrong heading it completely disappeared. I checked the airline flight info and other sites and all I could find was that it was in flight and on time. Most worrisome hour of my life. About 30 min before it was scheduled to land it appeared on flight radar exactly where it should be.

The data on sites like flightradar is collected by amateur enthusiasts using amateur-grade equipment, put online using amateur-grade network connectivity.

You will never get the same level of precision or depth of data that a professional ATC would have.

That's a lot of worrying sir!

I'm bothered by the lack of suggestion of aliens.

Nah its more likely that it is a Kaiju attack...specifically a winged Kaiju...Fukushima anyone? Ring any bells? It's been 3 years and ever since that nuclear disaster we are having weird unexplainable events. Like those sink holes in San Francisno. It must be those worm Kaijus or something...

Damn, this is some hardcore marketing for the new Godzilla movie.

What makes people so sure the phones are "active"? Because they're ringing on the caller's end?

So I don't really know where else to mention this and it seems rather silly but Android phones can be tracked by the owner via their Google Play account by signing in and clicking the settings icon, then "Android Device Manager". No 3rd party app is rewuired anymore. It will then show you on a map where you phone is (great if you loose your phone in the couch or at a bar.) I believe it is just part of their "location service" that helps create traffic maps and create relavent local searches. Does it show a location of where the phone last was?

If someone I knew went missing with their phone that would be the fisrt thing I'd do. I guess I'd havin to know their Google Account password though. Maybe the loved ones of the pasengers could try a few passwords??

Does an inactive phone ring?

Sometimes, yes

It can do. The caller will hear the ringing signal while the MVNO is locating the device on the network.

For proof of this, put two mobile phones next to each other and call one from the other. You'll hear a ringing signal on the earpiece before the other one lights up and says you've got a call coming in.

Happens all the time in New York City!

Proof?

How do people like you make it through the day?

Is that supposed to mean something?

Just anecdotal, but my phone goes straight to voicemail if it's turned off, or if it can't find a tower (I have ATT and get the "call-failed" all the fucking time). Otherwise, if it's on and in range of a tower, it will ring and ring, then go to voicemail as I look for it. I know because sometimes I can't find it and will call it using my work cell.

Otherwise, if it's on and in range of a tower, it will ring and ring, then go to voicemail as I look for it. I know because sometimes I can't find it and will call it using my work cell.

So you suppose it's not safe to assume that all the phones remain well charged, and intact, and that all the passengers are simply not being allowed to answer them, if they still have them. You think that's not a safe assumption?

I really don't know. This is like an episode from the fucking Twilight Zone. I was just noting, that from my experience, I can tell when my phone is on and functioning. I think that is what the families are implying. And, from my guess, they are experiencing the same phenomena and are "assuming" that their loved ones' phones are still live, thus, leading them to believe that relatives are alive as well.

First off, as I'm sure you all know because it's common sense, there is no way the plane vanished. Now that that is out of the way, there are things that investigators know, that they are not telling the public, which is normal for any situation like this. What I don't understand is all the conflicting information that is being poured into the mix. Almost like someone has something to gain by keeping this hunt going for a long as physically possible. If the plane were hijacked and rerouted to land somewhere else, someone would have made contact for the purposes of getting ransom or something else out of it.

Honestly, the only thing that makes any logical sense is that there was a catastrophic explosion at 35,000 feet that pretty much vaporized the plane. My only real problem with that theory is that it would have to be a massive explosion, and i mean massive, a little homemade bomb wouldn't bring down a 777, which would mean there was a mechanical failure most likely having to do with the fuel tank, or fuel lines. But again thats questionable because of the ext ordinary safety records the 777 has shown over its 20+ years in service.

Basically the only thing I've taken from this whole thing so far… to be 35,000 feet in the air and having something catastrophic happening is by far the scariest thought i can think of. If that is how it went down, if there was anyone who didn't die immediately, they for sure died the most scary death imaginable.

How big of an explosion would have to occur to LITERALLY vaporize the plane. It seems like there would be debris no matter what you did to it. I think the most probable outcome is that it will be in this new search area released by the Malaysian military.

It seems like there would be debris no matter what you did to it

I agree, its hard to get past the lack of it, it has to be somewhere.

Either that or it is a legit hijacking and it has landed somewhere. I find that unlikely, but given the information we know, the longer time goes on without locating a debris field, the more probably hijacking becomes.

"or it is a legit hijacking and it has landed somewhere"

this was my first thought but it would only make sense to highjack the plane to get something out of it. But no one has come forward asking for ransom or anything else. They could be waiting for the right moment I guess, but that seems unlikely to me.

I am surprised no one has cried piracy yet. The malaccan strait is known/ famous for that.

It has been denied, the plane was never detected over the Malacca straits.

http://www.themalaysianinsider.com/malaysia/article/malaysias-air-force-chief-denies-saying-mh370-detected-over-malacca-strait

Wait, so the national media is going to have to retract their reports? This should cause quite a stir from people following this.

They literally just said this 12 hours ago and now they are completely reversing their narrative.

"It changed course after Kota Bharu and took a lower altitude. It made it into the Malacca Strait," the military official, who has been briefed on investigations, told Reuters.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/03/11/malaysia-airlines-military-idUSL3N0M835C20140311

Any word on the legitimacy of the malaysian insider? This news story seems like it was just published within the past hour. The cable networks haven't begun backtracking yet.

The reliability of the Malaysian Insider is very high and almost impeccable. They are an independent news organization that regularly scrutinizes the current government in Malaysia.

I wouldn't rule out anything at this point. What exactly do you mean by "exotic" technology though?

And as for it being an "act of god"… I would say it's more like an "act of science", I know you don't literally mean act of god, but everything has an explanation, and unless investigators and experts came out and offered no explanation as to what happened to the plane or where it is/went, I said it has more to do with science than god.

I think they are not telling the public because it is something too scary for the public to know. Now they must figure out what story they will concoct instead of the scary story they are not telling. My guess is aliens. There is enough evidence that aliens have been lurking about.

I posted it in the other thread, here it is again.

Interesting theory from another pilot

The terror organisations recognise that the sure way to win the current war they're waging against the West is to use the Ronald Reagan ploy of making the war simply too expensive for the other side to wage. If this turns out to be a terroist attack, it's clever, particularly if it can be repeated.

Someone, be it a terrorist who forced his way into the cockpit or a pilot who has been recruited or forced to co-operate with the terrorists, had to have enough knowledge of the 777 to know which nav and comm. functions to disable - and in a very short time - to cause it to disappear (in an electronic sense) in a matter of seconds. After that, it's just a question of getting the aircraft a long way away from the commonsense search area before ditching it or flying it deliberately into the sea to destroy it. (When your foot soldiers are willing to die for the cause, the possibilities that can be employed are endless.)

The effect of two or three similar disappearances will be huge. The incredible expense, both to governments and airlines, in just trying to find the missing hull, will eventually become crippling; the drop off in passengers, as airline travel becomes something less than 100% safe in the public's perception, will hurt the airlines' bottom line; the increased security measures will make airline travel an even more painful experience than it has become since 2001.

All will end up making travel very, very expensive, which means the bad guys will have won, for without easy and cheap air travel, Western society will not be what it has become over the last fifty years.

http://www.pprune.org/rumours-news/535538-malaysian-airlines-mh370-contact-lost-78.html

Another pilot

Facts and Conclusions

If you take the point in time where transponders shut off as t=0, or corresponding location as origin point, a few results can be arrived at:

1. Lack of debris on sea surface in the immediate vicinity of origin point lead us to believe that the aircraft did not structurally disintegrate, either due to aerodynamic forces or through explosives .

2. Lack of IR signature confirmation by US SBIRS (Infra red spotting satellite system) also lends credence to the result that the aircraft did not explode in air at origin point.

3. Suicide theory can also be laid to rest because a pilot intent on committing suicide will not linger around in air and in fact will try to head down right away after turning off transponders leading to debris field around origin point.

4. However, since we know as a fact that the aircraft eventually crashed, it leads us to believe that the aircraft was severely impaired at t=0, even if it was structurally intact. Whatever happened around t=0 was catastrophic enough to eventually bring the aircraft down. It not only took out communication ability of the pilots but a lot more than that.

5. A set of pilots finding themselves in a catastrophic situation are highly likely to look for a landing strip ASAP. Given that they have likely lost their navigational ability as well (most likely), at night, they are going to head for nearest land, wherever they might think it is.

6. If we take it as a fact from Malaysian authorities that the aircraft tried to turn around, it could be an indication that the pilots were in trouble and wanted to find land in haste.

7. Malaysian authorities claimed in the beginning (perhaps even now) that they lost radar contact at 2:40AM, more than an hour after t=0, if that is true then they were tracking an aircraft in huge trouble looking to land somewhere or anywhere. But it provides a radius of around one hour flying time from origin point to search for.

8. Regarding US SBIRS lack of IR signature, it could depend on what their system is optimized to detect. A missile launch is sustained bright fire, an aircraft crashing in a fireball is short term quick burning fire. SBIRS probably accurately confirm that the aircraft did not explode in air, however, will it also accurately confirm that it did not burn under jungle canopy for a short time?.

http://www.pprune.org/rumours-news/535538-malaysian-airlines-mh370-contact-lost-77.html

Weren't 20 something passengers tied to a company developing cloaking technology? That or aliens.

Goddamnit why does nobody in this thread link to shit?

EDIT: http://www.theepochtimes.com/n3/555475-freescale-semiconductor-employees-behind-missing-malaysia-airlines-plane-one-of-conspiracy-theories/

Here is a link to their website which shows projects they are currently working on.

20 passengers are Freescale employees. I read somewhere that they might be part of a bigger conspiracy to build backdoors into their hardware that can be accessed through smart meters via the electrical grid. Sounds crazy but who knows.

The smart meters conspiracy section of youtube is quite interesting. Interesting in the sense of "I don't particularly believe this but it scratches my conspiracy itch".

And just last year, we had an engineer in Singapore mysteriously vanish after he noticed his work is being forwarded to Huawei (China) and may be linked to military purposes. http://www.ft.com/intl/cms/s/2/afbddb44-7640-11e2-8eb6-00144feabdc0.html#axzz2KzVJrFJo

Chip-level back-doors in networking equipment, Ultra-low-power RF jammers, Aircraft cloaking, that's all stuff you may not want people talking about.

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You're and no.

It still boggles the mind that this day and age a plain like this can just go missing and no one knows wtf happened. Either we are all truly this stupid or there is something going on that they are telling us. Just my opinion.

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interesting! I had never heard of that. Also here's wikipedia's list of all aerial disappearances recorded: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_aerial_disappearances

Wasn't that thought to be an insurance payday for the owner, or am I thinking of something else?

How is he shadowbanned? I can see him. Maybe I just said something really dumb, demonstrating a misunderstanding of what a shadow ban is.

I believe mods can "approve" posts by shadow banned users. If not, they can at least see them.

National Geospatial-Intelligence Agency technicians saw signs of a crash in satellite imagery

Wondering whether this has been used for MH370

Looks like there may have been a Malaysian Military Officer on board the flight:

116 PUSPANATHAN/SUBRAMANIAN Malaysian 34

According to Facebook, is a Lt. Cmdr at their Armed Forces Headquarters. https://www.facebook.com/PuspanathanNaidu

Considering the military's strange behaviour since the flight has gone missing, does anyone want to check the rest of the manifest to see if there were others?

Can someone look at these objects I found on tomnod and tell your opinion.

I think the one in the lower left look like the front of a cockpit.

http://imgur.com/a/OhpZ0

Following up on this, I think they might be debris. It looks like a wide field. Any idea if official agencies are following up on this??

I'm kind of disappointed I haven't seen theories of a remote take over and control of the craft. The 777 is capable of autopilot takeoffs landings and navigation, coupled w/ its communications abilities it would seem plausible that the plane could have been taken over remotely, disabling radio and transponder communications.

Take a look at this. http://rt.com/usa/michael-hastings-cyber-car-218/

I'm kind of disappointed I haven't seen theories of a remote take over and control of the craft.

They're out there. I wrote that one up after every post with a link to the Pentagon quest for airliner kill-switch functionality was downvoted. I thought maybe a well-argued hypothesis would be voted up, if for nothing other than clear presentation. But no, voted down to one or zero. So does that mean the conspiracy has to include Reddit as well?

You got an upvote because to me it's perfectly plausible, perfectly technical, and the world we live in, why wouldn't the thought even be entertained?

why wouldn't the thought even be entertained?

That is why it is fascinating to see how speakers to the media frame their statements. They are experts at appearing forthright about what they want to communicate without entertaining anything that could be conflicting or undesireable. Language, in any case, is sufficiently decoupled from reality to conceal the real powers that drive a situation.

Yeah, I hear people talk about television news with real trust in their comments. I just can't help but think about all the real pertinent questions they fail to ask on the serious issues as well as the lack of information they fail present in their reports. We really living in a world that is actively pulling the wool over our eyes.

Well I had no idea about this other stuff... I find the whole thing fascinating.

I'm really confused about this whole thing... As I see it (I haven't really been following this very closely so please correct me)

• Initially contact was lost just a bit after the flight was started in the gulf of Thailand
  Now...
• They are reporting they last seen the plane at 25000 feet on the west coast where primary RADAR lost connection at the end of its range (100 miles).

This baffles me... does this not completely and utterly suggest the plane started flying elsewhere...

Perhaps 37 is the new 33 in this case?

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I always thought the stolen passports were irrelevant. Identity theft like that is rife in that part of the world and the two men had booked connecting flights to Amsterdam - crucially, booking a connecting flight out of Beijing means that they'd avoid Chinese visa checks and therefore the stolen passports would continue to go unnoticed.

Common sense says to me those guys were just wrong place, wrong time and probably totally innocent as far as the aircraft's fate is concerned.

The media was paying too much attention to Russia's actions. A plane disappears. Every media outlet in the USA is now talking exclusively about what they don't know about a missing plane. Meanwhile in Ukraine ( and elsewhere ), the re-tribalization of the human race continues. Divide and conquer, then enslave.

Like in America

ok I will be the first to say lets forget the passports because honestly it was the first thing thrown at us and i felt it was suspicious as that.

Now on to a question I have. Why do we have 20 People from an American company called Freescale Semiconductor that works with black ops's technology and that has major re investments from the Carlyle Group All on one plane going to China?? Workers that are very limited in their filed of expertise of Chip design. When we know how China steals technology, they could be going to visit a factory or god knows what. Not implying anything but I do find it suspicious

I'm going with the theory that it is the first Mass Alien Abduction. Why would they do this? Just to see if they can. I've always wondered if the majority of our UFO/UAP encounters are by Alien youth fucking around, like kids just cruising around in a car, they've come to troll us. Either that or they think of earth as a Zoo and its "Discount Lion Safari".

I just spent a few hours looking at the Tomnod site, and something odd struck me.

First, there's the data: there's just not that much of it. They're using tens of thousands of people to crowdsource the browsing of roughly 3400 images at a time which could be gone over by a single person in a day, not to mention how rapidly software could search that same data for anything that doesn't look like ocean in a few minutes at most. I don't know if the map numbers are consecutive, but they only number up to about 24000.

Then there's what's missing from the photos: aren't there supposed to be dozens of planes and boats searching for the aircraft? And yet, after looking at 50% of the imagery I can only find a handful of boats and other objects; oil platforms, ships what appear to be fishing vessels, etc. I couldn't find an image of a single airplane involved in the search.

Then there's the radar data. Did we really need days to find out that the plane had turned around? I can't think of any other airline accident where the plane was out of touch for so long without anyone taking notice. Isn't knowing where all the airplanes are worldwide a top priority for the government since 9/11?

Kudos to Tomnod for the idea of crowdsourcing a search, but I can't help but shake the feeling that the whole thing is just an elaborate deception; something to keep the public busy while the government is off doing something else.

Then there's what's missing from the photos: aren't there supposed to be dozens of planes and boats searching for the aircraft

Aren't the images at night? Probably less crews then.

hypothetical question. what if the plane shows up in flight near Asia asking for permission to land. how would authorities deal with this knowing the plane may now be very dangerous to where ever it lands? depending on where it is shooting it down wouldn't be a safe move either right? if there is no wreckage found any time soon, this may be a race against time until something like that happens. just my thought

What if the USA had a piece of secret technology that could detect the MH370 plane's location, but the technology is so secret that if the US used it to uncover the plane, it would also uncover whatever the secret technology was to the world?

I mention this in reference to a report where the US said they have a flash/explosion detection covering the earth and saw no flashes... But that report was not very prominent and I've only seen it once.

That made me wonder the above...

I don't think it's good news at all that MH370 has been confirmed to be hijacked in some way. Whoever did it obviously has yet to claim responsibility, which (in my opinion) means one of two things.

1. The plane was in the process of being hijacked to Central Asia but something went wrong and the plane ended up crashing.

2. The group or groups who currently have the passengers are planning something far more sinister than hijacking. Possibly using the passengers as weapons (eg: biological warfare) or as leverage for a bomb of some sort on the plane.

Just my two cents.

Why did civilian radar lose contact with the plane at 35k feet but military radar kept tracking until 30k? That's what I want to know.

Maylasian Civil Aviation Authority to the Telegraph: "There are some things that I can tell you and some things that I can't."

But at the same time they are crowd-sourcing the searches to fishermen, locals and even the internet.

It's a military installation, if he didn't have authorization to say that it was a military radar installation located on that island then he had to dodge the question.

Maylasian Civil Aviation Authority to the Telegraph: "There are some things that I can tell you and some things that I can't."

This reads to me like they don't actually know, rather than a cover-up or "can't confirm or deny" situation.

Yes that is ridiculous. WTF are they hiding?

Unless it's a global cover up the other countries should be able to find it, it seems that China brought out their satellites to track the plane or so I read.

Side Note: Okay as I was trying to paste a source before confirming this comment the topic was deleted about China sending out satellites? Strange.

Transponder turned off from within. Plane flies below the radar floor to anywhere it wants to while all eyes are in the ocean in a specific search grid. Passengers currently in a hostile country or under the control of a hostile group with all their cell phones in a trash bag. The phones are not being used to surf the web, use apps, transmit data, scan for wifi because they are in a bag or other storage option not in their owners possession and so battery life for many of these devices lasts the 5 or so days it's been. They're all alive and the perpetrators have successfully pulled the wool over the worlds eyes. What's next remains to be seen.

I will say I don't believe this is some ridiculous American plot or False Flag op by Obama. If any major government is involved and/or has a vested interest in diverting media attention it would be Russia.

I doubt they would just throw hostages' phones into a trashbag and just forget about it in a corner somewhere, knowing that smart phones have GPS tracking.

Do they truly act as beacons like in Breaking Bad or is that just some Hollywood myth? I'll be the first to admit I have no idea either way.

Yes, they do. Although they have to be able to receive data and transmit to do it. They can track you without using gps based on a 'ping' from different cell towers to figure out a location. The police often use this for murder cases to see if a suspect really had been where he said he/she had been. It's not a secret, its been very well known for years. Although, the police have to get a warrant to view the info from the cell company first.

If you are in an area with no cell coverage your gps can still receive the data, but the phone can't transmit the data. So without cell phone services in range, tracking the phone is impossible.

Ah, TIL. Thank you.

I don't know, but I've heard of people tracking their stolen iphones across continents.

just my 2cents as an aircraft maintenance engineer

probable theory for MH370: right wing structural failure?

aircraft course changed from 25° track to 40° track during its last moments on radar and its speed reduced from 474knots to 471knots. (something severely uncontrollable happened in seconds)

case: right wing broken and aircraft spun to its right, giving no time to respond

case ruled out: engine failure gives few minutes to pilots to call for Mayday

Why only the right wing: the right-wingtip damage from 2012 might have weakened the right wing structure at its base where it attaches to the fuselage.. as the wing also hosts an engine, a base structural damage will be catastrophic to the balance of aircraft and might start spinng downwards in no time.

I insist on wing damage due to its right wingtip repair history and its turn rightwards moments before missing.

why will it turn right?: when the right wing is broken it loses lift, now there is more lift on left wing and immediately causes flight to turn/bend towards its right, thats what you may observe in picture

pls discuss..

The airliner will be found near 82.2E, 5.7S.

I say, 4°30'47.7"N 96°12'24.4"E

at the thing that looks like a rural air strip in the making.

Damn, that is interesting. How did you find that?

Brute force search in Google Maps along the "turn back" vector. http://images.says.com/uploads/story_source/source_image/264860/big_thumb_e231.jpg

You have to extend out over Indonesia.

I don't think so. Check it out on google earth. Way too uneven

source? > 82.2E, 5.7S.

No source, that is my prediction; Malaysian Airlines 370 will be found near 82.2E longitude, 5.7S latitude.

Whoa, now we have a very shallow (10km) 5.5 earthquake off the cost of the Andamans. Crazy speculation: The plane was flying 50 passengers light, 5.5 earthquake roughly the energy output of a small tactical nuke. What if this was some broken arrow shit?

Any thoughts on this? Apparently, it was hijacked by AWACS, according to a blog writer whose website was closed down by feds.

Feeling a bit like the conversation is missing a key element. Specifically, Occam's Razor. The most likely answer given the evidence at hand is probably the correct one.

The only thing that I've seen thus far that seems to fit is this: A Startlingly Simple Theory About the Missing Malaysia Airlines Jet

The fact that the alternate route was programmed into the plane 12 minutes before "alright, good night" debunks that theory.

Not at all. Apparently this is a common practice among pilots. A backup flight plan they can switch to in the event of an emergency.

What do you all know about North Sentinel Island? My mind made a link almost immediately when I heard about the plane.

How long has a plane this size gone missing before? Isn't it odd that crashed remains have yet to be found?

I heard once that a big plane went down in the ocean and it took 8 days to find any evidence. But I'm pretty sure that's a very rare example.

The most recent "big" crash in 2012: flight 447, where they didn't find any wreckage for five days.

It only took them 2 days to correctly locate the debris site though. This is still drawing blanks on a much smaller area and much shallower depths.

Flight 447 was on its flight path and in the middle of bad weather. Flight 370 was well off of its flight path, in good weather, and the location of its last detection has changed drastically in the last 12-24 hours. If this new location is accurate, I would expect for them to find something in the next day or 2.

It has been denied. It apparently never went to the Malacca straits.

http://www.themalaysianinsider.com/malaysia/article/malaysias-air-force-chief-denies-saying-mh370-detected-over-malacca-strait

MH370 is truly one of the biggest mysteries in aviation history so far.. here are a couple of reasons why

-No ACARS message from the plane most likely signifying there were no particular mechanical issues or indicating catastrophic electronics failure on board the plane i.e onboard fire/explosion/in flight break up (unlikely given no debris found) -Transponder turned off unknowingly why after 1 hour into the flight -No mayday call or communication signifying technical issues or sort -Incompetence & conflicting information from the Malaysian government about what they know happened & media blunder -absolutely ZERO wreckage debris found so far signifying that plane most likely touched water relatively intact

This is truly astonishing, I'm just hoping we have some meaningful information sometime soon..

I think the SAR operated systematically and well independently of the incompetence of the Malaysian PR, especially the DCA chief. The media and even organizations as reputable as Reuters have followed false reports. There is literally zero information to go with.

It happened in 2009.

It seems odd that the authorities have ruled out mechanical faults. I would have thought the most likely theory is that there was catastrophic electrical failure so the radio went as did the controls. It's possible power failed to the black box as well.

That's not how black boxes work at all...

What is this? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hNZtz-HVy6c&feature=youtu.be

Not taking any sides, but is this legit?

I think its legit. I checked the flightpath from that site a few days ago and it showed what he claimed. So the data has definitely been altered. Why I have no idea.

I wonder why he didn't check out the other airplane at all though.

Bogus, he had the wrong flight number. 370 ended in a 'O', not 'Q'.

I mean the registration number. Not the flight number. He has it all wrong. Who's busted now? hehehe. All good.

Just a speculation; maybe Russia has something to do with this. You know, trying to divert the media attention from Ukraine while preparing for something big. Also not giving a closure to the mystery just yet, so that the media stays hooked. After all we're all conditioned by the media.

I called the no radar tracking part as whack 23 hours ago.

Why are the reports of the active cell phones not being covered by the US press at all?

The oil slick they found was said to be highly characteristic of what you'd find after a plane crashes in the ocean (two prominent lines where jet engines hit...). If it definitely is not from MH370, what's it from?

Oil rigs

according to authorities the oil was chemically analyzed and not jet fuel

http://www.tomnod.com/nod/challenge/malaysiaairsar2014/map/22963

http://www.theepochtimes.com/n3/555475-freescale-semiconductor-employees-behind-missing-malaysia-airlines-plane-one-of-conspiracy-theories/

Plane "hidden" by electronic "weapons"? It's a thought at this point. All possibilities open until more leads appear, I suppose.

What about the possibility of an EMP type device that rendered all electronics useless? Can planes still fly with manual hydraulics? Maybe they lost power to the engines as well and were gliding with no lights or power of any kind and only the manual control of the ailerons, so the pilot tried to glide with his best guess back to land. Maybe there was massive cloud cover over the part of Malaysia that they passed so he could see no lights on the ground.

My conclusion in short, pilot suicide. Been following this pretty closely and the following is the only theory I have come up with that I can't pick holes in so I had to type it out.

Plane disappeared at a very specific point on the flight path at a waypoint which also happens to be the switch over point between Malaysia and Vietnam air traffic control. Pilot was heard to say 'all right, good night' to Malaysia after being informed of the switch over. Vietnam were never contacted. This timing would suggest knowledge/prior planning.

At this point I think the pilot would have initiated his plan. Being an over night flight the cabin crew would have been less active anyway but the pilot may have spoken to cabin crew in such a way to give him more time alone in the cockpit. He then will have quickly incapacitated the other pilot in the cockpit. He would have steered the plane west as seen on Malaysian radar before switching off all tracking and comms and changing altitude to effectively become 'invisible'. Now invisible, he would change heading again to north east over the South China Sea. At this point crew and passengers would be none the wiser, the wayward pilot could have even made an announcement over the tannoy to reassure people about any recent maneuvres. This would explain why there was no distress calls made by either the pilot, crew or passengers. It would also explain why the plane was thought to have changed its heading to the west.

We now know that the plane never re-appeared on any radar so therefore it never made it to any land mass. So it must have gone into the sea. The Mallaca Strait radar sighting and search has drawn a blank.

Therefore I believe that the plane headed north east to the South China Sea where the pilot knew that radar could be avoided and phone signal would be non existent. It was then deliberately crashed into the water. This could be an attempt to make it as hard as possible to track down the wreckage and therefore the true cause of the crash.

The above corresponds to the oil rig sighting and the recent Chinese 'wreckage' pictures. Obviously I can't comment on either pilot on board but you'd need a huge amount of experience and knowledge to pull off this plan so effectively. Whatever happened, I'm sure it will be found soon now that the search is being expanded over the South China Sea, and hopefully the truth will be revealed.

RIP to all of those on board.

Michael McKay's witness puts plane at crash site located approx 8"20'33 N 108"11'58E being approximately 176Km SE (102.03") of Con Doa Island .

China satellite image of wreckage at 105.63E, 6.7N appears very accurate when combined with seas at 225"-230" from witness crash site.

"When I observed the burning (plane) it appeared to be in one piece." "Until the flames went out" - this is interesting and I can not make head nor tail of what may cause a fire to start and then go out (Engines???).

Possible scenario is that MH370 had fuselage or wing structural failure from prior accident.

http://www.businessinsider.com/oil-rig-worker-thinks-he-saw-malaysia-flight-in-flames-2014-3?IR=T

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/world/news/article.cfm?c_id=2&objectid=11218881

http://www.sbs.com.au/news/article/2014/03/09/malaysia-jet-was-damaged-2012

Looking at the flight path it seems likely that they lost all instrumentation/gimbles. Looks like the pilot tried to turn around to go back and land. I would have done the same thing. About face and descend slowly hoping to see lights and not hit water.

I think the explanation proposed on Lowyat (http://www.lowyat.net/2014/03/was-there-a-problem-with-the-mh370-boeing-777-200-aircraft/) sounds most plausible. If the SATCOM antenna adapter ripped away it would stop sending out signals and leave a hole in the fuselage. This would lead to decompression which would cause the pilots to turn the plane around for an emergency landing. If the fuselage somehow ripped further apart because of the hole, the plane would go down.

Google Earth the coordinates: 4°30'47.7"N 96°12'24.4"E

looks like a strip being built that would be just long enough/wide enough to land(crash land) a 777 . It's also roughly on the along the flightpath proposed by the earlier Malaysian air-force turn back theory (if you extend it). http://images.says.com/uploads/story_source/source_image/264860/big_thumb_e231.jpg

I know it's a long shot (<1%), but if i were looking for a place to land without being seen (bad intent), it might be an option.

Hi there, I figured i would come to reddit to post my thoughts on the current situation regarding the missing Malaysian Airlines flight 370. By all means i do not want to come across as racist, judgemental or inconsiderate to towards anyone or anything involved in this incident. These are simply my thoughts and my way of attempting to help solve this unfortunate mystery.

Whenever we hear about a significant airline terrorism incident it seems to be caused by a fresh mysterious act that always finds a flaw in the security systems. Lets face it, horribly beings are always coming up with new innovative ways to slide through the cracks of airline security. In case you haven't noticed, my thoughts are directed at terrorism and heres what my brain seemed to come up with piecing the mystery together.

Is it possible flight 370 was hijacked.. yes of course. If this was the case, why hasn't any body made a claim about such an act?, terrorists like to do that sort of thing you know, make a stand point and take credit for their horrific intentions. For a minute lets assume flight 370 was hijacked and take into the consideration that terrorists are always coming up with innovative plans.

Is it a possibility that flight 370 was landed safely, after being hijacked, and having its location systems deactivated (possibility), at a remote location that could be further undetected. Think about it for a minute, these terrorists could obtain a devastating suicidal homing missile the size of a building and a further 239 alive hostages. This aircraft could be used in future horrific plans and could just be the beginning of something terrible.

I can briefly demonstrate a couple of evidences that might support this theory.

*Some family's of flight 370 were able to call their flight victims cell phone briefly before being disconnected. How is this possible?http://mashable.com/2014/03/11/why-malaysia-airlines-passengers-phones-ring/

*No debris have been found, possible satellite images could be very unlikely inaccurate. (Ocean foam, known unrelated scrap rubbish, etc) http://www.news.com.au/travel/travel-updates/malaysian-airlines-flight-mh370-crash-site-found-by-chinese-satellite/story-fnizu68q-1226853195656

*An Australian man claims to have clearly spotted a fitting description of an aircraft that flew at a low altitude with no visible damage (flames, smoke, etc)

*US investigators believe the flight may have continued for hours. http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/mar/13/mh370-satellite-images-show-possible-crash-debris-in-south-china-sea-live

I figured this all might sound a bit crazy and unrealistic, but hey people are voting on alien conspiracies.

What are your thoughts?

The media (CNN in particular) have interviewed dozens of 'experts' who say "It had to happen this way" and few agree - here is a rational scenario that I have not heard yet - much like Swiss 111 DC-10 over Peggy's cove. - right after last communication with Vietnam an electrical fire in the electronics bay takes out the radio and transponder and other instruments including all communications. - pilots get alarms and turn towards home on autopilot - i.e. set heading along an established path towards a way point for approach to KL. - fire in belly of plane continues to take out controls in the fuselage but does not affect the senors in the engines which are far from the fuselage. - Pilots and passengers overcome by smoke - fire either continues or smolders due to lack of oxygen. - Plane stays on heading and engine setting with or without autopilot until fuel runs out or it gradually descends to the Indian Ocean.

So who are these experts that say it MUST be intentional and their scenario is the only possible answer.

I was looking on Tomnod at the satellite images and found what looks like wreckage, or a whale, and a cloud in the shape of a skull LOOMING over it.

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Skull Cloud Traced

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OMG Guyz What is going ON!?

I eager to see updated news.

I believe a nuclear 911 is imminent and Iran will be behind it. Here's my theory:

Iranian hijacker has a knockout agent, gas mask and tools to defeat the cockpit door lock smuggled onto the plane during servicing. At altitude, the hijacker triggers release of the knockout agent, hides in the bathroom with his gas mask on until everyone is unconscious. He defeats the cockpit door lock, removes the unconscious pilots, turns off all the radios and GPS, puts on the pilots oxygen mask and then depressurizes the plane. At 30,000 feet, everyone will be dead in 5 minute due to lack of oxygen.

Hijacker flies the plane to standard waypoints and merges with other commercial traffic to cloak the planes passage. Past the Adman Islands, he stays below India's military radar and makes his way to Iran and lands at a secret airport. The aircraft is hidden in a hanger and the dead passengers are removed and buried.

The plane is then repainted, additional fuel tanks are added and a bomb bay door is fitted and 2 nukes are loaded. Plane is flown to NYC and the first nuke is dropped. 30 minutes later, before anyone can figure out what he's doing, he's over DC and the second nuke is detonated.

Why would Iran do this? Because they have lost billions due to sanctions so in retaliation, they will cause trillions of dollars of damage to US economy by nuking NYC and DC.

A companion operation is that they will simultaneously nuke the Saudi oil fields which will take 10 million bpd off of the market, causing a global oil panic and shortage, thus Iran's oil will suddenly be in huge demand, leading to the elimination of sanctions, which is their end game.

Unfortunately, you don't need to steal an extended range 777 just to nuke the Saudi Arabia oil fields so I believe a USA nuclear 911 is imminent.

PaperJoe

Wo, that's alot of shit to take in. If this actually happens, oh man stock market crashes and war will break out.

here's my theory - it flew out to sea widely enough to avoid detection and is now in Pakistan. Or Indonesia.

What about the cabin crew ?

I have a rogue idea about First Officer Fariq Ab Hamid with his flight simulator.

Could he be bringing a laptop flight simulator installed gaming laptop with him on-board?

If so... as a gamer i could...

Fly low (below the clouds), with terrain visibility, Combo with the FS game Radar & superb realistic environment to pin point locations without the help of ACARS.

If this is possible then navigating will be an ease even without auto-pilot.

anybody else has been trying to let their imagination run wild with this idea: this is very similar to the EgyptAir Flight 990 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EgyptAir_Flight_990) and there is already a theory that Flight 990 was remotely controlled.

Why is Malaysia still running the investigation with such obvious demonstrable bias with regards to the evidence? They run Malaysian Airlines. They could be sending search teams on a wild goose chase and everyone puts their head down and looks where they tell them to.

Its strange, but everything points to this being deliberate actions, and finding the crash site to be in the southern Indian ocean points me to believe that whoever was responsible doesnt want the plane to be found or retrieved. As criminal investigators usually say, you should follow the money to find out who is behind it. Who has the most to gain. It is possible the pilots parachuted after setting this course, or maybe the course was set beforehand by someone else. One turn, is explainable as being normal, but two and to end up where it did?

MH370 Final Resting Place

http://imgur.com/E8bzZgN,as0kXux,pcWv40F,VzZSpXU#0

I don't subscribe to any foul play and I think so much has been said about the pilot just because of the flight simulator, and very little said about the co-pilot who was more of a novice compared to the pilot in terms of flying hours. I think so many things point to electrical/mechanical failure. Pilot turned to the nearest airport but avoided land as he knew the possibility of a crash was there. He dropped altitude to attempt a sealanding. In case at any point this plane flew behind another plane, I dont think it was to stay undetected, but probably to get the attention of someone else while keeping a safe distance. My assessment of the pilots - pilot is a hero, co-pilot was inexperienced but who knows, maybe he was also a hero.

All the searching agencies have been failed to get the clue of missing Malaysian airlines MH370 so far.

http://www.mh370conspiracytheories.com/

My Theory:

1. Battery / Electrical fire causes fumes
2. Passengers Succumb
3. Pilots on limited Oxygen
4. Pilots start checklist, plane in Autopilot turn towards new destination
5. Pilots place faith in checklist/fire system to make full effort to save aircraft
6. Pilots Succumb
7. Autopilot navigation until fuel exhausted

My Father = Capt (Navy, National, Pan-Am, United) - Retired

Yes! I completely agree... Finally someone sees what's going on here. I think the US is responsible in all honesty! I believe the US framed Russia (for what I have yet to discover... perhaps to get Russia to disarm the rebels? ) only to get rid of veteran AIDS/HIV researchers. America sees any country evolving as a threat. In what ways to remain the most powerful country.. Resources?! Money, education, technology, medicine, food, sanitation etc..I believe we were primarily close to finding the cure for AIDS from years of research from many of the passengers on that flight. What country is most effected by AIDS?! (think about it... it's politics). By keeping the poor," poor" and the weak "weaker." The US has a better chance of staying on top. Also, the US initially seized all activity for the search of the black boxes until they had the opportunity to review the site first to avoid fraudulent confiscation of evidence. (Ya Right!) Why was the plane flying over a war zone in the first place? Wasn't there a more direct route to their destination? Finally, can someone please explain how all of this extreme evidence of videos and audio has emerged out the blue only to point the finger at Russia. If the alleged video activity showed missiles being moved by Russia, and it fact we were aware of this strange activity initially, why didn't anyone say anything? I would like to think if Russia was honestly responsible for shooting down flight 17 that they wouldn't be dumb enough to use their own missiles which of course is recorded.

Why doesnt the black box have a facility of sending out GPS signals when the plane has crashed..?

Arg, the number of times I've seen this!

You can't "send GPS signals". GPS signals are nothing more or less than timestamps sent from satellites. Your phone or other computer has the ability to detect the time differences between those timestamps due to the speed of light, and use that, geometry and a little relativity to work out where in the world you are.

What happens is that planes receive GPS signals, convert these into a position, and then broadcast this result - on a completely separate band and in a different format than GPS.

It does. However, it has a very short range, which means if the black box belonging to Malaysian Airlines flight MH370 is somewhere in the deep ocean, it's essentially like 'finding a needle in a haystack'.

You'd think they would design them to float

It'd likely get dragged down with the rest of the wreckage.

its attached to the plane?

Yes, you want to make sure it goes where the plane goes for diagnostic purposes.

It's fixed inside the aircraft at the back. It wouldn't float unless it broke free and escaped the fuselage in any case.

After the plane was taken control of by terrorist-hackers it was diverted to a remote airport somewhere off the coast. The people on the plane are now prisoners. Their belongings have all been smashed, all but one cell phone that is constantly ringing, reporting the gps location from a heap of destroyed electronics. The government knows the location and is preparing a covert tactical operation to save them.

I just have a question in reference to the diagram. how could the new and original crash site be so far apart? Would the plane not have traveled the same distance from the pivot given the same amount of time? So the original crash site would be the pivot point and then there would be two different crash sites equal distance from the pivot point.

Langoliers?

My theory is this plane was hijacked in the intention to be used as a terrorist attack. I think something went really wrong somewhere and in the process of disabling communications etc. so the plane couldn't be tracked they may have turned off gyroscope-autopilot thing (excuse my ignorance!). These hijackers probably relied on this to help fly the plane. Since it was disabled it caused them to enter the ocean at a 180 degree angle completely submerging the plane kilometres under the ocean leaving no debris or traces of anything.

"Would you kindly not open until..."

Somewhere beyond the sea...

Too soon?

My Theory as of 2 min. ago: Terrorists seized the plane, landed in one of the many flat farmlands in Aceh. The reason no one could call out is because the people were gassed. (Put to sleep, so to speak.) It is currently being re-skinned with other markings, and loaded with nuclear explosives. It will take off and do damage within the next few hours. ...Or...not. I hope not.

This is the scariest scenario by far, however, I think if it IS used in some kind of attack it will be at least 2 weeks.

Russia is going to blame China for hijacking the plane. And then they are going to annex China, and then the Soviet-Union will rise again. WW3.

IF THE PHONES ARE STILL ACTIVE WHY DONT THEY TRY TO LOCATE THEM? IT'S EASY NO?

I'd think someone would be able to trace those phones if they were working. Its hard to make a plane just disappear today.

the phone company who is investigating cannot get a signal from the phones its in the article OP posted

Down vote away, but I still think North Korea has something to do with this.

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I know this, but.....just thinking out loud. A 777 can go 9000 miles with a full tank. Just sayin

Incorrect. It can go 9700km, or 6000 miles.

http://www.boeing.com/boeing/commercial/777family/pf/pf_200product.page

Why?

It is a thought.

Makes me wonder about the Malaysian air defence forces. If someone could fly a Boeing 777 undetected in and out of their airspace - it seems logical that a hostile Air Force could just as easily...?

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Couldn't find evidence of this, only information indicating that some people didn't board (which happens almost every plane fight), but nothing saying that no one asked them questions...

Is this what the mainstream media wants us to focus on now?

Could the mass stabbing in China have something to do with this missing plane? Is this a move on Chinese security?

Here's my theory: A portal tunneling directly through the earth, swallowed up the plane and spit it out in Peru, someplace very close to Machu Picchu. According to a Map Tunneling Tool I found online, I plugged in the approximate location of the last known location of the flight and it seems legitimately possible. (Image of maps here: [http://imgur.com/mdIdCmZ])

there is already a top stickied post on this, why do we need another?

thank you for correcting !!

So you just unstickied the old post and put this one up?

Heres my 2 cents.

How do you pass by a stolen passport? Isnt there some proof on it that it is actually you?? IF so those 2 people.. hold on 2 people actually did something on this plane.. dont you think that the 100+ people would of done something. At least someone would of..

My thoughts are that something is going on underground within the whole cluster fuck of Russia and Ukraine playing with themselves. Were going to get involved cause were the United States, we want to rule the world. We cant leave shit alone, we're in everyones business. I dunno where this plane is or whats going on, but Russia and Ukraine, now this.. somehow theyre all gonna form together and we are going to be on the brink of World War 3. Russias gonna overtake Ukraine, forms alliance with N Korea, and the US is gonna is gonna be a test dummy cause 'We own everything'

My 15 mins of fame... Also My own opinion

2 people actually did something on this plane.. dont you think that the 100+ people would of done something.

They could simply have checked luggage with a bomb in it. :-(

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Not sure WW3 is that correct path to that.

Anyone else read where the guys that had fake passports were Iranian?

Interesting. The Iranians are actually blaming the US for the incident now.

They blame us for everything. LOL Why would we care what relationship they have with China? Nutters! LMAO

Seems to be a very convenient and coincidental distraction from the president declaring a national emergency last Thursday giving him executive powers over all government agencies, military, and local law enforcement that is necessary for implementing martial law.

FEMA and DHS have already made their preparations. A national emergency has been declared. The president now has executive powers and can operate without approval from congress or us. The only thing left is the "event" to justify their martial law lock down.

I believe you, but do you have a source of Obama declaring national emergency? I ask because when I go to explain the same thing you just explained, I'm going to be asked for a source, and if I say 'This guy on Reddit' it will severely discredit me.

nevermind, found it.

http://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/2014/03/06/executive-order-blocking-property-certain-persons-contributing-situation

Here's your source. Straight from the white house. Though, I'm sure you can Google it just as easily as "This guy on Reddit" just did.

http://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/2014/03/06/executive-order-blocking-property-certain-persons-contributing-situation

Yep.. if you'll notice I replied saying "nevermind, found it", but thanks for taking the time to reply with it anyway.

Most people post their sources when they make claims since that's easier than making everyone Google it to corroborate or refute. Just my 2 cents.

Well exqueeze me! I didn't notice your other post. I only saw the context posts under mine.

And sorry not being up on my reddit etiquette. Still pretty much a newb on here. I do, however, find it sad that we have apparently reached the point of technological laziness where people can't even google something for themselves. But they will sit there all butthurt about it and type you a bitchy response for not doing it for them.

the president declaring a national emergency last Thursday giving him executive powers over all government agencies, military, and local law enforcement that is necessary for implementing martial law.

Are you sure that's the right link? The link you posted doesn't say any of that...

But that isn't a national emergency declaration????

"By the authority vested in me as President by the Constitution and the laws of the United States of America, including the International Emergency Economic Powers Act (50 U.S.C. 1701 et seq.) (IEEPA), the National Emergencies Act (50 U.S.C. 1601 et seq.) (NEA), section 212(f) of the Immigration and Nationality Act of 1952 (8 U.S.C. 1182(f)), and section 301 of title 3, United States Code,"

I'm pretty sure invoking the "National Emergencies Act (50 U.S.C. 1601 et seq.)" does constitute a declaration of a national emergency.

But not really. It's for sanctions, not calling up the military.

Very alarmist. It's reckless.

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There is a difference between evoking a state of emergency and using the National Emergencies Act.

That's not a declaration of emergency, you dumbfuck.

UFO encounter or a special spot just like the Bermuda triangle.

Edward Snowden and someone he was traveling with were probably on the plane...

Did anyone see the photos of the Flight Captain's personal flight simulator? It was some high tech stuff. Why would he want that when he clearly has access to better flight simulators for training at work? Perhaps to train for something at home that would otherwise raise suspicion at work? Hmm... You know who invests that kind of time and equipment in training? Military organizations. Look at the US Navy Seal Raid on Osama's compound. They went as far as to actually construct a mock compound to practice in. Maybe the Captain is part of a black ops operation and the plane was stolen for future nefarious use.

There's no way he would post those photos online in that case.

Just a small follow up. Seems my theory wasn't so far fetched afterall, huh? :)

Can we please use reddetiquette

Vote If you think something contributes to conversation, upvote it. If you think it does not contribute to the subreddit it is posted in or is off-topic in a particular community, downvote it.

So therefore this comment should be downvoted into oblivion and if someone asks a on-topic question, Try an answer it politely and do not downvote.

This just happened.

You are the first to make that joke.

You dont say.

Whoa ho ho let me get this straight: MH370, on 3/7, going 3,700km, at 37,000 feet, age 37 stolen passport, 237 people minus pilot/co-pilot, 37,000 passengers daily, 37 months post Fukushima, 37 Fuku injuries? Here is 37 WTFs, WTF, WTF, WTF, WTF, WTF, WTF, WTF, WTF, WTF, WTF, WTF, WTF, WTF, WTF, WTF, WTF, WTF, WTF, WTF, WTF, WTF, WTF, WTF, WTF, WTF, WTF, WTF, WTF, WTF, WTF, WTF, WTF, WTF, WTF, WTF, WTF.

Am I the only one sees it pointless to obsess over numbers like this?

Amelia Earhart's plane disappeared in what year? 1937

It does. However, it has a very short range, which means if the black box belonging to Malaysian Airlines flight MH370 is somewhere in the deep ocean, it's essentially like 'finding a needle in a haystack'.

Arg, the number of times I've seen this!

You can't "send GPS signals". GPS signals are nothing more or less than timestamps sent from satellites. Your phone or other computer has the ability to detect the time differences between those timestamps due to the speed of light, and use that, geometry and a little relativity to work out where in the world you are.

What happens is that planes receive GPS signals, convert these into a position, and then broadcast this result - on a completely separate band and in a different format than GPS.

20 passengers are Freescale employees. I read somewhere that they might be part of a bigger conspiracy to build backdoors into their hardware that can be accessed through smart meters via the electrical grid. Sounds crazy but who knows.

Is that supposed to mean something?

Interesting. Does anyone know of any other uplink from the plane to a central farm somewhere? I know there are concerns about the 777's internal network and what is able to be accessed from its network.

Goddamnit why does nobody in this thread link to shit?

EDIT: http://www.theepochtimes.com/n3/555475-freescale-semiconductor-employees-behind-missing-malaysia-airlines-plane-one-of-conspiracy-theories/

Thank you for this in depth article.

If this is indeed what happened, whoever came up with this theory needs to get a job within the ntsb or whichever other safety transportation board if he/she is not there already. The world needs more competence.

Damn that's spooky, a ghost plane full of unconscious/dead people gliding with cell phones still ringing.

Reminds me of

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1999_South_Dakota_Learjet_crash

I also called that one 23 hours ago and I actually emailed friends about it three days ago. I'm a pertpetual traveller and computer scientist so what can I do but spot their bullshit lockdown game with increasingly centralized computer systems.

http://twitpic.com/dy1qmm that would also support this claim

That makes so much sense. It would also explain the slow leak of information put out there.

I mean if it was known that these types of planes had these issues, and that this particular plane was 14 years old, then there would be some serious lawsuits out there. If this was an oversight or lack of an inspection that lead to this disappearance then that's disgusting. Negligence is a bitch.

At least they have a motto. Liars like you have a script to read off that requires no critical thinking.

Proof?

The strategy being used here to distract from any meaningful conversation is simply to argue with the person instead of the issue.

Useless baby account shitting disinfo? Hi

That's like something out of the Twilight Zone. Imagine being the one guy who got paranoid and popped the oxygen mask compartment and put on the mask, only to see everyone else pass out, all before the plane begins a descent. A creepypasta in the making.

You got an upvote because to me it's perfectly plausible, perfectly technical, and the world we live in, why wouldn't the thought even be entertained?