r/conspiracy is recruiting
48 2014-03-18 by mr_dong
Most of the regulars will know the drill by now. The sub is growing and we need help moderating. Be warned it is mostly a thankless task and a role which will cause you headaches and possibly bowel disorders so think on before asking to help out here.
We are looking for users who are based both sides of the pond and European candidates are especially encourages to apply at this time as most of the existing team are bases state side .
/u/sovereignman has left us by his own accord and he was a very good, active mod so we wish to replace him. Put your hat in the ring, keep it clean and good luck to everyone who wishes to join the boxing ring that is r/conspiracy.
Edit:
We have some clear cut choices and the vote is in.
Are successful and worthy additions to the moderation team. All three are active, have good, diverse post histories and this is exactly what the existing team is looking for.
We have a growing community and want to continue to move /r/conspiracy forward with good content, self-posts and a respectful community.
Thank you to everyone who expressed an interest.
410 comments
65 Three_Letter_Agency 2014-03-18
I am interested in the position.
Unfortunately, I have deleted a lot of my older posts and have only returned from a hiatus a couple weeks ago, but here are some of my contributions to the sub:
Compiling suspicious circumstances of Michael Hasting's death
Suspicious circumstances of 9/11, which is now hosted in the wiki
The currently stickied MK-ULTRA series
On a throwaway: The mountain of evidence for an international pedophile ring
I have a lot more original content to come as well.
As far as moderating, I only have mild experience, but promise to enforce the rules fairly and in a manner that the mods and community see appropriate, without any personal agenda.
My oldest account is over 4 years old, if any mods want to know which one it is, pm me, though I have stopped participating on it before I became active in this sub. I have the time and motivation to be very active.
Edit for full disclosure: Yes I do have a free self-published book as people have mentioned, and a blog. I do not plan on abusing a moderator position in any way to promote either of these, but if it is viewed as a conflict of interest, i understand.
20 AssuredlyAThrowAway 2014-03-18
I back this application.
3 ShellOilNigeria 2014-03-18
Second that.
2 John_Brennan 2014-03-18
would you not back /u/no1113 , /u/GrippinThaGrain ,/u/quantumcipher ,/u/letsownthenwov2 ??
2 [deleted] 2014-03-18
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2 John_Brennan 2014-03-18
you think s/he left?
2 ShellOilNigeria 2014-03-18
Possibly.
12 oblivioustoobvious 2014-03-18
/u/Three_Letter_Agency has my vote.
-9 alllie 2014-03-18
A good reason to vote against him.
But his push for mod is troubling to me. Something he also did the last time mods were recruited. Think he'll get a bonus? The last 3 mods, which we seem satisfied with, did not campaign for it.
2 oblivioustoobvious 2014-03-18
Are you honestly trying to say that because I voted for him that is a good reason for you to vote against him?
Please just stop now. You're making yourself look more and more foolish.
2 shadowofashadow 2014-03-18
He obviously has dedicated a ton of his time to this kind of topic. I don't see it as that suspicious that he's interested in being a mod here.
12 Canadian_POG 2014-03-18
I third your recommendation, if my input is of any value, you've got my vote.
12 axolotl_peyotl 2014-03-18
Holy shit this was you!!
I just finished the part in your book about the Franklin Scandal, Dutroux Affair, Presidio SF, and Jimmy Savile/British elite.
I've researched some terrifyingly odious conspiracies to death, but nothing has prepared me for the implications of the rampant pedophilia networks among the elite. I really have a hard time finding the words...
Your research lead me to the wikipedia page for Marc Dutroux:
This shit makes me quite literally sick to my stomach.
Anyway, sorry to distract from the discussion, I've already nominated you ITT, and it seems the people have spoken.
6 ridestraight 2014-03-18
It was indeed T_L_A!
My vote: Yes.
11 SovereignMan 2014-03-18
You have my vote.
7 curiosity36 2014-03-18
Think you'd be a great addition. Really like your submissions.
7 KhalifaKid 2014-03-18
I vote for you. But I also vote for myself. Thanks again for sending me your book a little while ago!
7 WTCMolybdenum4753 2014-03-18
A fine choice for moderator. Well balanced comments, insightful posts.
6 Balthanos 2014-03-18
This has to be the best irony I've run into today. A three letter agency being a mod in /r/conspiracy has to happen. It's just too hilarious.
-5 alllie 2014-03-18
So you're saying his user name is a nod to the people who pay him?
6 [deleted] 2014-03-18
I would love to have TLA as a new mod.
5 [deleted] 2014-03-18
You got my vote man!
5 Shillyourself 2014-03-18
This guy. Yep.
4 Kuleaid 2014-03-18
New account, long time user. You have my vote.
4 BadgerGecko 2014-03-18
Here here
3 Ambiguously_Ironic 2014-03-18
You have my vote as well.
2 Traubster 2014-03-18
I was going to recommend you, but didn't know if you were already a mod. I use a reddit app.
2 ghostmitten 2014-03-18
You got my vote.
2 [deleted] 2014-03-18
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5 Three_Letter_Agency 2014-03-18
Nope. Only corporation I ever worked at was bartending for an Irish pub.
2 platinum_peter 2014-03-18
You've got my vote.
2 br1Zian 2014-03-18
The pedophile ring was one of the posts that kept me here. Blessed be yee!
2 [deleted] 2014-03-18
I back this application.
0 Flytape 2014-03-18
I approve.
Although I suspect that you wouldn't be capable of being a very active mod. You seem very busy and that shouldn't be taken as an insult. I think you would be a great mod when you found time to be one.
2 alllie 2014-03-18
Well, that's the worst sign yet.
3 Flytape 2014-03-18
What is exactly? That I approve or that he seems busy?
-5 alllie 2014-03-18
Why do you want to be a mod on conspiracy? Cause this is not the first time you have pushed for it, pushed for it like there was money involved.
10 Three_Letter_Agency 2014-03-18
I just control+f'd my entire post history and never mentioned wanting to be a moderator of any sub.
As far as the comment that being a mod would inhibit my ability to wake people up, to be honest I do not have a full answer for that. I am never antagonistic to posters in the first place, as I believe that to be the antithesis to the goal of waking people up, so I would not change my posting or commenting behavior. I have no intention of stickying my own content or anything like that, either.
-1 Doc---Hopper 2014-03-18
Do you know who I am?
5 Three_Letter_Agency 2014-03-18
I am very familiar with your username, yes.
4 oblivioustoobvious 2014-03-18
It sounds like you're insinuating that /u/Three_Letter_Agency's intentions for pushing for becoming a moderator is that they are a shill (or would become a shill to become a moderator).
1 StoneTheKrow 2014-03-18
Well he did advertise for a book he wrote. Not necessarily shill but definitely monetary gain and credibility. Not for or against him. Just saying.
6 [deleted] 2014-03-18
His book was free.
2 oblivioustoobvious 2014-03-18
(S)he has released the book for free. No monetary gain and I see nothing wrong what-so-ever with wanting to gain credibility.
1 StoneTheKrow 2014-03-18
Future books? Could still be getting paid. Having a conspiracy author with serious cred could be huge for a small or struggling publisher.
2 oblivioustoobvious 2014-03-18
Now you're reaching outside of logical explanation.
So could you right now. So could I. But they've at least proven themselves credible.
Honestly with the way you're going this would be a pretty good submission on its own part. The conspiracy that you're hypothesizing that is.
1 StoneTheKrow 2014-03-18
Well... I'm glad you see what I'm getting at I guess. Like I said, nothing against him as mod just odd he has some stickied threads, mod positions are now open, and he wants it.
2 oblivioustoobvious 2014-03-18
Sounds like an extremely adamant /r/conspiracy subscriber. Even better for them to become a moderator.
This simply boils down to personal perspective.
1 StoneTheKrow 2014-03-18
Fair enough. Why don't you request a position?
1 oblivioustoobvious 2014-03-18
I sort of did.
4 [deleted] 2014-03-18
I can vouch for him. Check his website out. He's a stand up dude doing a lot of great work.
16 axolotl_peyotl 2014-03-18
If they're even interested, I nominate /u/Three_Letter_Agency and /u/User_Name13.
Be forewarned: new mods are all subject to the standard hazing rituals.
Edit: also /u/quantumcipher
8 SovereignMan 2014-03-18
I agree with both of those.
-1 alllie 2014-03-18
/u/User_Name13 is a karmawhore who rarely says anything. Not someone who has time to moderate.
5 [deleted] 2014-03-18
Wow, I haven't seen /u/Three_Letter_Agency in forever, is he still around? If so, I definitely second his nomination, and /u/User_Name13 as well.
Also, Axolotl I've always been a fan of your contributions, I haven't had much time to comment lately as things are hectic but I'm really enjoying the things you've been posting. Thanks!
5 aquinoheir 2014-03-18
Those are two solid picks. But if you had to nominate a third......
8 axolotl_peyotl 2014-03-18
/u/JF_Queeny?
ducks
4 aquinoheir 2014-03-18
Lol! Shill! Jk! Thank you for being a great mod.
5 moonpurr 2014-03-18
I'm glad you did the edit. People respect your opinion.
3 Mrg13 2014-03-18
I second a vote for all 3
-8 alllie 2014-03-18
/u/Three_Letter_Agency: ten months. Not long enough.
/u/User_Name13: 1 year, not long enough. But serious karma whore. He doesn't have time to mod.
9 Three_Letter_Agency 2014-03-18
for what its worth, this is not my first conspiracy account, I have deleted older ones. My oldest account is over 4 years old but I stopped using it before I began participating here.
-1 alllie 2014-03-18
So what is it?
6 axolotl_peyotl 2014-03-18
You're being a negative nancy :(
-1 alllie 2014-03-18
We need people who have been here long enough, that have a history, so we're pretty sure they aren't shills.
2 oblivioustoobvious 2014-03-18
How long is long enough? How much "history" is necessary? How do you determine you're "pretty sure" that they aren't shills?
1 alllie 2014-03-18
You have 1 link karma. So you don't participate. You have no rep here.
3 oblivioustoobvious 2014-03-18
Link karma is not the only means of participation.
Legitimate users will come to know me. If I do not have enough reputation for these users then I nominate /u/Three_Letter_Agency .
You have an extremely poor way of judging who would be a good moderator.
2 joseph177 2014-03-18
I agree, I have been here 5 years and volunteered.
-3 alllie 2014-03-18
Just let Orangutan mod. She has the history, is known and has a good rep and is active here. If it doesn't work out, we can try again.
6 ENYAY7 2014-03-18
Good luck getting your buddy Orangutan to be mod no one is going to vote for someone you suggest
6 axolotl_peyotl 2014-03-18
FTR I nominated Orangutan the last time /r/conspiracy had this discussion.
What it comes down to is who is going to show up right now and get the support of the users.
-1 alllie 2014-03-18
Don't confuse the multiple sockpuppet accounts active in these comments with user support or lack of support.
1 oblivioustoobvious 2014-03-18
Care to point out these sockpuppet accounts?
-1 oblivioustoobvious 2014-03-18
No. Sounds like /u/Orangutan would be a poor moderator.
2 oblivioustoobvious 2014-03-18
/u/alllie , how long is long enough necessary for somebody to become a moderator?
How long is long enough? And how do you know that he doesn't have time? That's up to him/her and not you.
1 alllie 2014-03-18
I would say 2 years.
2 oblivioustoobvious 2014-03-18
And why is 2 years the cut off? Any logical reasoning or are you simply being arbitrary?
15 Orangutan 2014-03-18
Is there a disadvantage to making all moderation moves completely transparent?
Why are the list features in this subreddit now grayed out?
5 SubSerfStrataNomics 2014-03-18
"Our intentions are aimed towards a fairer, more transparent world and a better future for everyone."
1 Flytape 2014-03-18
I'm confused about "the list features", what is grayed out? I think I'm missing something obvious.
3 Orangutan 2014-03-18
It's just a formatting change. When you make a list in a comment now the bulletted points are now light gray instead of regular black text. Makes them de-emphasized in my opinion when the intent of the author is to emphasize them. Minor change, but reddit is doing these minor changes and over the long term the site is changing for the worse.
For example:
Period.
2 Flytape 2014-03-18
I still see them as black bullet points.
2 Flytape 2014-03-18
Ahhh I figured it out.
Its apparently part of our CSS which I have turned off in my preferences.
We may be able to get this repaired easily.
1 Flytape 2014-03-18
http://i.imgur.com/lKxKGGz.png
1 Letterbocks 2014-03-18
Here's how it looks to me. linky
11 ronintetsuro 2014-03-18
Not interested. But I am following this close enough to wonder why link karma matters.
4 alllie 2014-03-18
It shows the users participating on Reddit and on conspiracy and reduces the likelihood that the user is a shill.
6 ronintetsuro 2014-03-18
So what's the low end mark to find a user 'acceptable'?
3 Ambiguously_Ironic 2014-03-18
I'd almost say the opposite is more likely (or at least as likely) - someone who just spams posts 24/7 might be trying to push an agenda.
0 alllie 2014-03-18
As a karma whore I know it's impossible to keep to an agenda if you post to a lot on different subs.
0 Ambiguously_Ironic 2014-03-18
Maybe so. All I'm saying is that I don't think karma is the end-all/be-all when it comes to choosing a mod. I think consistency, level-headedness, and activity (even if just in comments) are equally if not more important. I do agree with you though that we should try to stick to users who have a history of posting here that dates further back than just a couple months.
2 oblivioustoobvious 2014-03-18
There are other ways of showing participation and it does not reduce the likelihood of a user being a shill.
10 moonpurr 2014-03-18
/u/Three_Letter_Agency has my vote. I would also nominate /u/quantumcipher
6 [deleted] 2014-03-18
/u/quantumcipher is a gooder. I second that!
7 axolotl_peyotl 2014-03-18
/u/quantumcipher would be one of my top choices.
3 curiosity36 2014-03-18
Absolutely, cipher submits some of the best stuff here.
5 moonpurr 2014-03-18
I agree 100%. The posts are balanced. Not pushing any one agenda. Also, because of that balance I personally look at situations from all angles. All the conversations I've had with /u/quantumcipher have been informative, civil, and progressive. I appreciate people here who encourage wrather than discourage.
1 curiosity36 2014-03-18
A gentleman and a scholar. Taking a look at his post history assures he's done a service to the sub:
http://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/search?q=quantumcipher&restrict_sr=on
2 axolotl_peyotl 2014-03-18
So have you FTR :D
1 curiosity36 2014-03-18
Thanks brother.
2 Ambiguously_Ironic 2014-03-18
I agree with both of these.
7 KhalifaKid 2014-03-18
I've been here for over 3 years. Look through my history. I have no experience moderating but I've been pushing non stop for transparency in this sub... Occasionally butting heads with the current moderators. I believe we need somebody in here who questions the mods. If you think I'm worthy I'd be honored.
3 StoneTheKrow 2014-03-18
I vote for you.
Edit: among others
3 joseph177 2014-03-18
What is your stance on 9/11?
2 IndependentSession 2014-03-18
I support you.
2 Ambiguously_Ironic 2014-03-18
You seem legit - I'd vote for you.
7 User_Name13 2014-03-18
I would be willing to do it.
Also had I known that I would 1 day be throwing my name in as a contender for moderatorship of this, the sub that I created my Reddit account for, r/conspiracy, I would've spent more time coming up with a clever/incendiary username, but here we are.
Here is a montage of my greatest hits on r/conspiracy :
Why Reddit moderators are “censoring” Glenn Greenwald’s latest bombshell http://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/1z6kfy/why_reddit_moderators_are_censoring_glenn/
British rock star Roger Waters of Pink Floyd calls for a cultural boycott on the Zionist regime http://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/1kqr8b/british_rock_star_roger_waters_of_pink_floyd/
There is no terrorist threat: The feds want you to think there is, compliant media goes along http://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/1k0xu0/there_is_no_terrorist_threat_the_feds_want_you_to/)
Michael Hastings Cremated Against Family’s Wishes, Deepening Mystery Of Journalist’s Death http://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/1iti4d/michael_hastings_cremated_against_familys_wishes/
Autopsy finds Rolling Stone journalist's fatal car crash not due to drug use http://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/1ksrr8/autopsy_finds_rolling_stone_journalists_fatal_car/
IMHO however my greatest contribution and what are more telling of what I consider to be real conspiracies are what Reddit considers to be my most controversial submissions:
JIDF, once respected, now a platform for harassment, bullying & libel http://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/1mvq55/jidf_once_respected_now_a_platform_for_harassment/
Is the Movement to Boycott Israel Working? http://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/1zjqlf/is_the_movement_to_boycott_israel_working/
Ukraine Protests Carefully Orchestrated: The Role of CANVAS, US-Financed “Color Revolution Training Group” http://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/1ynggh/ukraine_protests_carefully_orchestrated_the_role/
Now, because this a democratic system I plan on using some good old fashioned fascism and fear-mongering to rile up the free thinkers to get them in a frenzy and sweep into the cabal of power & influence that is moderator status on r/conspiracy /s.
This sub is under attack, the content on this sub has taken a nose dive over the last 6 months and that decline in quality conspiracy-related content has been in direct correlation with the spike in subscribers to r/conspiracy. How is it that around the same time the Snowden leaks began this sub saw a sharp increase in traffic of the shill variety ? Could it be coincidence ? I don't think so, and in IMHO most of you would agree with me. This sub has clearly been hijacked by r/conspiratard and their merry band of vote brigadiers. To defend this sub I would :
Greatly reduce the amount of memes that get submitted to this sub, the memes that make it to the top of the page here over the past 6 months have at times been either what I would consider to be circlejerk material or it's been things that have been entirely antithetical to what this sub is supposed to be about, like the link I've provided as an example. (http://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/1yzx2k/alan_moore/)
I would also investigate/ban all suspected shills immediately after viewing their inane comment/submission. No one understands the frustration of witnessing your controversial yet somehow popular submission to r/conspiracy have it's comment section derailed by an endless cadre of suspected shills and their stupid jokes, like I do.
If made moderator I would respond to any queries regarding the sub or my actions as moderator in a timely fashion, I've dealt with mods that are quick at removing your post and then slow at explaining why it was taken down, it can be frustrating. Over the course of an average day I am on Reddit on my work computer & personal laptop as well as being on the Reddit is Fun app on my smartphone & tablet while I'm out.
Thanks for reading all of this/considering giving me your vote.
3 mr_dong 2014-03-18
Yes i am familiar with your posts and suspected you would be mentioned as a candidate. I look forward to working with you and thanks for accepting. I think you are just what we are looking for.
Invite will be sent shortly.
5 User_Name13 2014-03-18
Thank you.
3 Letterbocks 2014-03-18
fair shout.
2 Letterbocks 2014-03-18
Congrats, good luck m8.
1 gizadog 2014-03-18
This is an interesting idea for this sub since so many good links / post get lost after time. Maybe have a sidebar link for "Great Hits" by month or bi-yearly. :)
6 Amos_Quito 2014-03-18
I have neither the time nor inclination to be a mod in this sub, but I do have a question:
I noticed that /u/illuminatedwax is the top mod of /r/conspiracy, and is ALSO the top mod in /r/bestof - yet the latter summarily (and automatically) REJECTS any and all submissions from the former.
What's up with that, /u/illuminatedwax?
9 mr_dong 2014-03-18
Never active here. At least not in the time i have been a mod. Wax is a ghost who rarely haunts this sub. He just set it up a long time ago.
1 Amos_Quito 2014-03-18
Thanks.
But as the "top mod", does (s)he not retain priority power over all other mods - in both subs?
7 mr_dong 2014-03-18
Yes he does and if he wished he could get rid of all of us. However he never has and really he helped us after a rogue mod removed all of the existing mods some time ago. illuminatedwax helped the team when we needed it.
2 Amos_Quito 2014-03-18
Thanks once again.
Note that I have nothing against illuminatedwax, and I am happy to hear that support was provided when needed - I just found it curious that (s)he mods both subs, and yet submissions from r/conspiracy are banned (unjustly, IMO) in r/bestof.
3 TheUltimateSalesman 2014-03-18
Sounds like an account that will make things go away if they REALLY need them to.
3 SovereignMan 2014-03-18
He's also the top mod in /r/911Truth.
4 Amos_Quito 2014-03-18
BTW, thanks for doing a great job while you were at it, sir.
Glad to see that you're still here contributing.
2 SovereignMan 2014-03-18
Thank you.
0 [deleted] 2014-03-18
Does he ever make appearances over there?
4 SovereignMan 2014-03-18
His last post anywhere on Reddit was 4 months ago and he only occasionally did anything on /r/911Truth before that. Basically he's been a seldom seen ace in the hole to prevent subs from getting derailed. He's still a mod of 57 subs.
4 axolotl_peyotl 2014-03-18
we sure do miss ya mr sman
4 SovereignMan 2014-03-18
Thanks. I haven't missed being a mod though.
0 Shandd 2014-03-18
Yup
He's the reason though that Solid was able to help regain control over the subreddit after a mod booted very other mod IIRC
-1 gavy101 2014-03-18
Can you get rid of him from mod duty, what possible reason is there for him to be a mod of this subreddit?
1 mr_dong 2014-03-18
He created the sub and I'm in no position to challenge that. He should be more active maybe but ultimately he is king of the castle.
-2 gavy101 2014-03-18
I understand, but being a mod of 57 subreddits sort of rings alarms bells with me, as it should with anyone on this sub.
3 [deleted] 2014-03-18
Agreed. Top mod with absolute control...
2 O_oh 2014-03-18
I think the only way is to make a new conspiracy sub and try to recruit 200k people to join.
1 yahoo_bot 2014-03-18
He has a 7 year old account, he managed to get many good subs when the system started and that's why he has them.
Being active or not doesn't matter and you can't remove a top mod from being a mod, unless its a special case where the admins remove a mod, but these are extremely rare circumstances.
I have over 1000+ subs over 3 accounts, its not a big deal. Anyone can create a sub.
2 Flytape 2014-03-18
I would love to have him removed as a mod via redditrequest.
6 [deleted] 2014-03-18
I would gladly help out. Been around here for a while. The regulars know me.
2 [deleted] 2014-03-18
I support this nomination as well.
5 solidwhetstone 2014-03-18
To anyone thinking of volunteering- Good luck. You'llll need it.
1 [deleted] 2014-03-18
You can't blame anyone but yourself for your failed attempt as mod. You came in swinging your ban hammer and acting like King Joffrey, I really don't know how you expected to last.
0 solidwhetstone 2014-03-18
Well that's not actually at all true. But like was said in the movie Her, the past is a story we tell ourselves. I gave the entire community full licence to be critical of me for days as they created hate post after hate post. It wasn't until the very end when some users became especially abusive that I banned anyone and even then it was only something like 3 users. But facts don't matter here right? Only the narrative that we tell ourselves.
6 Flytape 2014-03-18
Facts do matter.
I remember when I was banned from conspiratocracy because the facts I presented made people uncomfortable. It was a test my man. You wanted to heal the wounds between conspiratard and conspiracy, the fact is that they don't want to change. They want to change us here, but not themselves.
The past is only a story if we ignore the uncomfortable parts and embellish the pleasurable parts.
5 newtruth221 2014-03-18
I think you know who I am, for the most part. I'm interested.
Edit: If not, please PM me and I will explain. I have been at the center of "drama", never caused it, and I have an open mind and a respect for all opinions, even the ones I do not disagree with even if they are not the one that I espouse. I would hope, not sure, that /u/axolotl_peyotl would vet me as legitimate.
5 axolotl_peyotl 2014-03-18
Yup this user is about as legit as they come...you also have dealt with far more reddit bullshit than most.
3 newtruth221 2014-03-18
Thanks friend. Sad, but true. sigh :)
Edit: No actually. NOT sad. Great experience, and invaluable insight into how things work!!
3 AssuredlyAThrowAway 2014-03-18
Legit user who has been persecuted by reddit inc; I would back this application on a trial basis.
4 newtruth221 2014-03-18
Thank you. I may suck as a mod, and if I do, I'll be the first to admit it and back down, but I would do my damndest. I'd want me as a mod :)
2 Ambiguously_Ironic 2014-03-18
You have my vote as well.
5 totes_meta_bot 2014-03-18
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2 axolotl_peyotl 2014-03-18
That makes the least possible sense.
2 ENYAY7 2014-03-18
Really have you done "background checks" on all the mods?
1 ENYAY7 2014-03-18
wow what a surprise
4 Ocolus_the_bot 2014-03-18
Bad news fellow shills. Our plan to infiltrate the mod team has been foiled
by: /u/Eggmont
Upvotes: 19 | Downvotes: 3 | Timestamp of this thread.
Upvotes: 2 | Downvotes: 0 | Timestamp of cross-posting thread.
If this was an error, send me a message
4 Canadian_POG 2014-03-18
I notice they didn't np that link...
2 AssuredlyAThrowAway 2014-03-18
When you help reddit inc "control problem communities" you don't need to do such things :(.
4 Canadian_POG 2014-03-18
It really is quite despicable.
6 AssuredlyAThrowAway 2014-03-18
Don't even get me started on the circlejerk milita from SA getting rewarded for the project panda raids with SRS.
I see you reddit inc.
3 Canadian_POG 2014-03-18
I'm not familiar with project panda raids but it doesn't suprise me that it would be rewarded in SRS, nor would it in subredditdrama for that matter, with all the circlejerking they did about us recently.
3 AssuredlyAThrowAway 2014-03-18
Project Panda was when the circlejerk militia from SA setup a subreddit called /r/preteengirls, filled it with CP, emailed Anderson Cooper about it, and then spread around the predditors tumblr (with admin approval, leading to the largest mod revolt in the history of the site) in an effort to oust VA who had just resigned from /r/wtf over masta taking payola to turn this thread exposing what Chris Brown really did to Rhianna into this.
*IMO this project panda was coordinated with the admins so that they could throw up their hands and say "we didn't censor reddit, internal and external pressure forced us to establish community standards!"
5 Canadian_POG 2014-03-18
Ooh ok yeah I remember hearing about that, it was way before I was even on Reddit but my bro told me about the whole Cooper angle, but holy shit, every comment in that thread deleted, community standards my ass, safe to say reddit inc has every Admin in their pocket.
Appreciate the links btw.
5 AssuredlyAThrowAway 2014-03-18
Par for the course, and that was 09.
I have been here too long, but I will watch these fucks and if I catch wind of payola I get really fucking angry. Even if this means they only work harder to veil their malfeasance I don't care, they're not getting the run of this gambit without some work.
4 Canadian_POG 2014-03-18
Wow... that is way worse than I imagined, I've heard about business influence on Reddit but not to the point where they can actually have content removed that shouldn't be in fear of job loss, and the fact that it even is a paying job, that is pretty infuriating.
Good, I hope everyone here feels the same way.
2 oblivioustoobvious 2014-03-18
I have never seen that picture before. Do you have a link to a submission about it or any more information?
4 AssuredlyAThrowAway 2014-03-18
To quote Steve;
Full context.
3 shadowofashadow 2014-03-18
Wow I remember that whole incident but didn't really understand the implications. If that was happening 4 years ago just imagine how tight the control is today. Reddit is a goldmine now compared to then.
2 AssuredlyAThrowAway 2014-03-18
Absolutely correct.
2 oblivioustoobvious 2014-03-18
Thanks.
0 [deleted] 2014-03-18
Thank you Ocolus_the_bot!
4 dsprox 2014-03-18
I am applying for a moderator position.
I only want to help take care of reported comments, to ensure the rules of this sub are being fully upheld in a timely and fair manner.
I will also be discussing strategies to improve transparency in this sub, particularly on issues such as shadow bans, comment deletion and removal, and other areas that could use improvement that I may not be aware of.
I have been a redditor for almost 6 years now, and a member here for about 4 years.
Thank you, I am more than happy to answer any questions from anybody.
I hope I am able to be a part of helping to keep this sub great.
edit: I say "only reported comments" to show that I'm not looking for anything more than the ability to help out in whatever way I can, I'm a moderator of 2 private subs (personal with friends and cousins) and /r/edmremixexchange
2 Canadian_POG 2014-03-18
You also get my vote.
3 dsprox 2014-03-18
Thanks, means a lot coming from you!
2 Canadian_POG 2014-03-18
You're quite welcome, & thanks!
2 [deleted] 2014-03-18
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2 dsprox 2014-03-18
Thank you.
1 Ambiguously_Ironic 2014-03-18
You'd have my vote.
2 dsprox 2014-03-18
Thank you kindly.
All I want to do in this world is help people, it's the co-primary reason I make music.
1 Flytape 2014-03-18
I would support dsprox.
3 [deleted] 2014-03-18
I nominate SovereignMan. I know he left of his own accord, but I wish he would consider returning.
6 mr_dong 2014-03-18
Already asked him but he kindly refused and we fully understand his reasoning.
1 yahoo_bot 2014-03-18
Don't reinstate that guy.
3 caitdrum 2014-03-18
What ever happened to SovereignMan anyways? I thought he was a great mod.
4 Billistixx 2014-03-18
He started splitting hairs on the difference between "Jews" and "The Jews"
3 EnoughNoLibsSpam 2014-03-18
I have experience being a reddit mod. I have created several successful sub reddits and dealt with lots of drama, plus I have a strong interest in this subs subject matter.
2 Ambiguously_Ironic 2014-03-18
I'd vote for you.
1 EnoughNoLibsSpam 2014-03-18
thank you for your support!
would you vote for me for president of the united states of america?
i think i can do a much better job of organizing communities than obama has.
2 Ambiguously_Ironic 2014-03-18
Assuming you're serious and will humor me, what would your first five actions be in an official capacity after being sworn in?
I also have no doubt that you and many others can and would do a far better job than Obama has in organizing communities, among other things. He hasn't set the bar very high in that or any other regard.
2 EnoughNoLibsSpam 2014-03-18
1) i would remove the Secret Service from providing security to the POTUS
why?
A) President John F Kennedy Secret Society Speech
short http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xhZk8ronces
long http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zdMbmdFOvTs
B) JFK assassination: Secret Service Standdown
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XY02Qkuc_f8
2 EnoughNoLibsSpam 2014-03-18
2) I would revert the name of the department of defense back to the department of war.
The Department of War got a name change as part of the military industrial congressional complex propaganda campaign.
When ordinary people are asked if they want to spend money on war, the answer is probably "no", but ask those same people if they want to cut defense spending and they would also answer "no".
We cant have an honest budget debate and refrom when we lie to ourselves about the name of one of the biggest items in the budget.
2 Ambiguously_Ironic 2014-03-18
Both good answers but you're still missing what I think is the most obvious and pressing one of all...
1 EnoughNoLibsSpam 2014-03-18
i'd like you to you know that i was not prepared for your question, so i have had to take some time to think about it. fortunately, I'm not under a lot of pressure at the moment, so this gives me an opportunity to think it through and give more thoughtful answers.
also, i try to think of things that the president can actually accomplish. its nice to hear promises from candidates, only to hear later that the caveat was that the congress had to go along with the plan. what can the president unilaterally do on his first day within the confines of the constitution?
as for the most obvious and pressing one of all...
i still have 3 answers to give, and i may work your concerns into my answer... if only i knew what they were... please give a hint?
. #EndTheFed? #EndTheWars?
. #GIABO #OpESR #OWS #WaveOfAction
2 Ambiguously_Ironic 2014-03-18
You are very right about this and if nothing else I think it's a pretty interesting thought experiment and I've liked your two answers so far - I'd vote for you. As for the most pressing of all, in my opinion it's ending the Fed and their usury scam. That's the problem from which most others stem from where I'm sitting.
2 EnoughNoLibsSpam 2014-03-18
3) i would address the problems of voter fraud and election fraud in one fell swoop.
a) if you get a paper receipt for a cup of coffee, then you should get a paper reciept for your vote.
b) your paper receipt would be in the form of HALF of a ballot that is perforated in the middle, top to bottom, with a column list of candidates names on each half of the ballot. there would be a column of spaces in the center of the ballot to fill in your choices for each office. when the voter is done, they tear the ballot in half, the one half goes to the county clerk for digital imaging, indexing and archiving, while the other half goes home with the voter, so that the voter can verify their ballot anytime later online.
i'm not sure if this type of ballot currently exists, or if it has a name. if it doesn't have a name, i would call it a "tally stick ballot", named after tally sticks, which have served their purpose very well for thousands of years.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tally_stick
c) ballots would have sequential serial numbers, so that there is a record of the total number of ballots outstanding, and spoiled ballots should be accounted for. ballots would have the same serial numbers in all 4 corners.
this system would preserve the anonymity of voters by not assigning a numbered ballot to a specific individual, while giving the voter a way to verify their vote, (and snoop through other anonymous voting data).
it is quite obvious that our elections have been rigged, and that the voters have good reason not to want to participate in a sham system. by restoring confidence in the peoples votes, we may increase voter participation, and move toward the true will of the people.
2 Ambiguously_Ironic 2014-03-18
The vote counts need to be tangible and accounted for. As it stands now, there's literally no way at all to verify whether the numbers are correct or not.
This answer is right on the money.
3 alllie 2014-03-18
Your first thought when voting for these people should be "How likely is it that this person might be working for the CIA, the FBI, British Intelligence, etc". Someone incompetent will be less harmful than someone like that. One of most useful positions such a person can get is as a mod. Then they can move the entire sub in ways that their masters want. Like the recent decision to outlaw shill accusations and misleading or sensationalist headlines (WHAT? On /r/conspiracy??)? Who would object to that most? Shills and agents. And they send a mod we respect out to push it. There used to be few rules for /r/conspiracy except no spamming. Now there are 11. And they are inching us toward the control they want us to have. And those of the mods who are innocent (Most mods) , are more manipulated by them than the rest of the sub.
SO THINK. Go look at the profiles. And more than the first page. Think if the person has been around a while, been active here, if they submit good articles, if they share at least some of our beliefs. Please consider this. Especially since there are shills and trolls in this comment section voting up their, well, sometimes themselves using mask and sockpuppet accounts. So THINK!
2 aquinoheir 2014-03-18
I would like to volunteer my services. I greatly believe in the power of this sub and the importance of asking questions. I am also from an unorthodox religious background with experience in leadership. I grant that I havent always been on my best behavior here, but I would treat this very seriously because this is a sub under attack and needs vigilant and compassionate protectors.
-8 alllie 2014-03-18
16 link karma. No.
1 aquinoheir 2014-03-18
I dont think karma points alone should dismiss me. Would you rather have a karma addict or someone who is an established mod from various other subs? I would find their intentions more questionable. I am not trying to get your vote. I just believe in this sub and maybe we need some new blood? Maybe someone who believes that this sub should be a force for good alone is enough? I respect your opinion. Live in peace and love with my blessings.
1 oblivioustoobvious 2014-03-18
Why does link karma matter? Is there a certain link karma required before somebody is acceptable as a moderator /u/alllie ?
5 moonpurr 2014-03-18
Why do you keep asking this same question over and over again?
-1 oblivioustoobvious 2014-03-18
Why does that user use link karma as a prerequisite to moderation over and over again?
1 moonpurr 2014-03-18
That question has been answered for you.
-1 oblivioustoobvious 2014-03-18
C'mon now. I assumed you're not an idiot....
I asked the question until it was answered. If you care enough you can look at the times of the comments and see that.
What I don't understand is what your point is.
2 ENYAY7 2014-03-18
I'd do it, never been a moderator before but been active on Reddit for the last 3 years. I think I started coming here 2 years ago not even sure but this has always been an interest of mine.
EDIT: also currently have a lot of free time (laid off, job closed down)
-6 alllie 2014-03-18
211 link karma.
No.
7 ENYAY7 2014-03-18
Lol like you're the deciding factor. Who the fuck are you?
2 joseph177 2014-03-18
You just explained why you have no business being a mod.
1 ENYAY7 2014-03-18
how did I do that? That was meant like 'where do you get off saying that'.
-5 alllie 2014-03-18
I am alllie. I have 87k just on/r/conspiracy. You may not like me but I am known. I can show I'm not a shill. I have participated here a lot.
5 ENYAY7 2014-03-18
And I've never seen a post of yours on the front page , granted I'm not looking at account names usually. Link karma shouldn't be a factor. Also proving to not be a shill seems impossible. But you having half million link karma makes me think multiple people may use your account. So maybe you are a shill
3 axolotl_peyotl 2014-03-18
/u/alllie is definitely a legit user and one of the top 5 contributors to /r/conspiracy in terms of link karma.
2 ENYAY7 2014-03-18
Word, but should link karma matter when attempting to become a mod? The way alllie is acting, is sort of childish.
1 oblivioustoobvious 2014-03-18
2 oblivioustoobvious 2014-03-18
You cannot show you're not a shill because you cannot prove a negative.
4 oblivioustoobvious 2014-03-18
Why does link karma matter? Is there a certain link karma required before somebody is acceptable as a moderator /u/alllie?
1 alllie 2014-03-18
You don't contribute.
0 oblivioustoobvious 2014-03-18
My comment history disagrees.
Again, from above:
2 Amos_Quito 2014-03-18
Not that it needs to be said, but...
BEWARE THE STEALTH BEAR!
She's a sneaky little sow, and has countless cubs.
2 trinsic-paridiom 2014-03-18
Unfortunately, I am in the U.S. and I dont have as much time as sovereign man to moderate, but I can help out about half that time. I spend a few hours each day reading posts so that would be the amount of time I could moderate.
If you look at my post and reply history, its speaks for itself. Let me know if anyone needs further information.
My interest is to help this sub maintain a balance between new information and on-going reporting as to prevent redundant new entries from cluttering up the hot list while helping maintain a civil discussion.
1 Ambiguously_Ironic 2014-03-18
You would have my vote, for what it's worth.
2 BadgerGecko 2014-03-18
I have thought about throwing my hat into the ring many times, but I do not want the extra stress in my life right now, but I will make these suggestions
1- In the comment box before you type should be a message on red etiquette voting (Some lik they have at /r/chiliadmystery/ )
2- STRICTLY No memes/pictures with words, only allow these in self posts, to drive debate about the interesting ones. To discourage kharma whores.
3- A side note for the side bar encouraging people to visit the ‘new’ queue
Thank you and good luck to the new Mods whoever they may be, you'll need it
2 gerantgerant 2014-03-18
These are all great suggestions. Hopefully someone will put some of this into action.
2 achillbreeze 2014-03-18
I'll throw my hat in the ring. I'm state-side if that matters. Not really active in the comments anymore but if I'm online I always stop by to check out what's what and read a bit.
I see a fair number of the posts here as BS but I'm willing to entertain any thought just for the exercise. I enjoy playing devil's advocate even if I don't agree with the idea. It's always good to get a different perspective.
When applicable, I always try to keep a level playing field. One person should not receive preferential treatment over another...as I said, when applicable.
And I'm not entirely sure what the duties would entail but I'm down for a challenge.
Good luck with the process.
1 NameTaken410 2014-03-18
Sounds interesting, but I feel like I have not been here long enough and don't know the "good guys" from the "bad guys" (shills ect). Also I don't always have the time that would need to be invested to do a good job. Three_Letter_Angency gets an upvote from me for now.
1 RichardPerle 2014-03-18
Count me in yo
1 joseph177 2014-03-18
I would like to step up, but I will be strict with trolling.
3 ENYAY7 2014-03-18
8 link karma? Nope
2 joseph177 2014-03-18
I spend my time in the trenches and provide content that way. Link karma shouldn't be a requirement. Your account age, comment karma and stance on 9/11 should meet minimum criteria.
1 gerantgerant 2014-03-18
I have up and down voted accordingly. Looks like we have some great contributors with their hands up. Best of luck to those that are chosen.
1 Zanzibareous 2014-03-18
I'd like to help out, if at all possible (a little late I know). I haven't deleted anything from my history, so feel free to look at what I've said. I don't submit much original content, but I feel I can help the sub elevate their level of discussion. If not, excited for the changes already.
1 Eternal_Atom 2014-03-18
If there is no one from Europe yet I wouldn't mind helping out. That said I don't have as big of a reputation here yet so I think it would be best you guys delegate to jobs to someone with a good reputation.
1 blebon 2014-03-18
I'd like to have a shot at being a mod here. I always suspected that this sub is also being controlled by obscure forces and the only way to know is to get into the mod team. I'm mostly a lurker (in this sub everyday) but post very rarely. I'm not from the US, so you'll have someone from a different timezone.
1 gizadog 2014-03-18
May "cause you headaches and possibly bowel disorders".
Sounds wonderful!
1 kris_lace 2014-03-18
[EU] I am interested. I don't currently moderate a reasonably sized subreddit. To properly asses my bias I'd recommend a skim through my comments/submissions. But here's a few highlights:
My review of this sub
My visit to /r/skeptic
The importance of Game Theory
Neuro Philosophy
More meta /r/consp
Importance of self informing
One of first posts here
Cognitive Dissonance
My distortion of reality
Mod:
/r/vetting
/r/SystemsTheory
Occult:
Objective path to occult
Systems Theory
Meditation:
I aint mad either way
1 getnit01 2014-03-18
Hey /u/mr_dong can i throw my name in for a chance? Thanks
1 mr_dong 2014-03-18
The new mods have already been chosen dude but thanks for your interest.
1 SmokesmadbluntzxXx 2014-03-18
I notice quantum hasn't been added, what's up with that?
1 TodaysIllusion 2014-03-18
I love r conspiracy, good luck on the mod support campaign.
1 Ocolus_the_bot 2014-03-18
Drama unfolds in the /r/conspiracy mod elections.
by: /u/lifestyled
Upvotes: 91 | Downvotes: 38 | Timestamp of this thread.
Upvotes: 1 | Downvotes: 1 | Timestamp of cross-posting thread.
If this was an error, send me a message
1 CantankerousMind 2014-03-18
If you guys are still looking and think I would make a good addition, let me know.
I see you guys have some people in mind already so no worries if the positions have been filled, so to speak ;)
Edit: I can help create bots if needed. In case there are any tasks that need automating :D
1 [deleted] 2014-03-18
I'm interested. How much time per day will I mod the subreddit?
1 quantumcipher 2014-03-18
Thank you all for the kind words.
I'm not exactly looking forward to the hate mail I may receive as a result of this, but what the hell?
Foremost: I'd like to reassure everyone here I'll do my best to be as impartial and fair as possible.
In the other subs I moderate I tend to prefer a "hands off" approach, encouraging free speech, civil discourse and dissent as much as possible. The only two things I don't tolerate: 1) actual spam and 2) overt trolling or threats of any sort. With the added rules here I'll have no choice but to add those to my list when moderating here, within reason.
Bottom line: Don't be an ass and try not to violate the rules.
1 Demosthenes117 2014-03-18
Hi, I missed this thread by some time, as you have already found your people. I would however like to express my interest, for any future possibilities.
I believe the Internet is the most important resource humans possess today, and Reddit is an amazing invention that allows for people everywhere to communicate with people who share their interests. I love this community, sure there are some nuts here, but I believe this subreddit could actually change the world. Obviously something so important needs a staff of just, unbiased, moderators to help facilitate the communication of this huge community. I could and can exercise these standards to the very best of my ability. I love it here. I learn something everyday, and I talk with people who, on a great deal of things, share my views. There's also people who challenge my opinions, which is great too, I enjoy hearing someone else's perspectives. If in the future this community should ever need new moderation, I humbly ask that my name be put in the ballot.
Demosthenes
0 catholic__cock 2014-03-18
I sent you a message mr dong. I've been shadowbanned twice, but i was in the running last time and i've been on reddit for 4+ years. Trying to keep my old name quiet since the admins seem to not like what I had to say here lol
-6 alllie 2014-03-18
87 link karma. No.
4 catholic__cock 2014-03-18
2 shadow bans, including a 4 year old account with 30,000 comment and 10,000 link karma. You're a +178 in RES for me
1 [deleted] 2014-03-18
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1 alllie 2014-03-18
I've already been a mod. But...it's a longer story.
0 oblivioustoobvious 2014-03-18
Why does link karma matter? Is there a certain link karma required before somebody is acceptable as a moderator /u/alllie?
0 oblivioustoobvious 2014-03-18
I would be up for the task but there are better people for the job.
2 StoneTheKrow 2014-03-18
Well you got a vote from me. You sure stir up some shit.
-1 oblivioustoobvious 2014-03-18
Well thanks I think.
I am here for the truth. I believe that the world is extremely corrupt and that the majority of people are completely oblivious to this. My username is coincidental to that. This account was my alternate account back when I had my main account. I deleted my main account when I became fixated on /r/conspiracy because my main account had personal information about me.
I have learned in time that if people see you as a big enough threat they are going to use any means possible to stop you, hence the deletion of my main account.
Again, I seek the truth. I believe the truth is unwavering. It's equal to fact. Many people try to distort the truth whether it be propaganda or such. There are people who come to /r/conspiracy to distort the truth. Whether these people be shills or trolls I still believe they are here. That doesn't mean I don't believe that there may be a handful of users that are legitimate skeptics.
This subreddit is an important gathering place for conspiracy theorists. It's part of an extremely popular website. This makes it a prime target for any propaganda.
I am here to spread the truth and to fight against misinformation. If becoming a moderator helps me with this then I would accept. If not, I will continue to be an extremely vocal user who will come to be known.
0 _Raptor_ 2014-03-18
I feel like this is the general consensus. I browse at work like every day, would I want to go through the drama and hate (for any reason) on a daily basis? Not really.
6 oblivioustoobvious 2014-03-18
I'm not deterred by any possible problem. I simply feel that users such as /u/dsprox or /u/Three_Letter_Agency would be better.
0 timjoler 2014-03-18
Id be up for it
-3 alllie 2014-03-18
When hell freezes over.
0 oblivioustoobvious 2014-03-18
What do you have against /u/timjoler?
-4 alllie 2014-03-18
2 link karma. 4 comment karma. Either he's a shill or a mask for a user with a bad rep.
1 oblivioustoobvious 2014-03-18
Are those the only two possibilities that your imagination could muster?
Edit: Again,
6 StoneTheKrow 2014-03-18
What do you have against /u/alllie ?
-1 oblivioustoobvious 2014-03-18
She seems to be a very poor judgement for who becomes a moderator. That's what I have against /u/alllie . She believes that link karma and account age can be a legitimate decider of if somebody should be a moderator or not. She also believes that /u/Three_Letter_Agency should not be a moderator simply because I believe that /u/Three_Letter_Agency should be a moderator.
/u/alllie may be legitimate but that doesn't make her the smartest.
1 StoneTheKrow 2014-03-18
No... I'm asking why does she feel, according to you, that she doesn't want three_letter_agency as a mod simply because YOU want it so?
0 oblivioustoobvious 2014-03-18
Because she explicitly stated so here. That is why.
1 Flytape 2014-03-18
Okay alllie, enough is enough.
If you don't have anything nice to add to the discussion then please don't add anything at all.
This IS a warning.
1 alllie 2014-03-18
Alllie points at this mod.
0 Flytape 2014-03-18
Point all you want.
If you continue to break the rules and accuse people of being shills then you will be banned.
-1 timjoler 2014-03-18
Thats not very nice
0 oblivioustoobvious 2014-03-18
I currently see two comments here that break the rules and have been reported. I've also messaged the mods about one of these comments. Just wondering how long moderation is going to take.
Edit: One down.
0 Billistic 2014-03-18
I'm interested in the position!
0 JUSTIN_HERGINA 2014-03-18
I'd like to be a mod, but honestly: I'd be too biased. I wouldn't let some shithead "lawyer talk" his/her way out of a situation. Anyway, that's my 2 cents.
0 KnightBeforeTomorrow 2014-03-18
Just a note.
The more punishment there is around here the less I and likely others, will be interested in being here. Don't get carried away on a power trip.
I got banned twice in one week, still don't have the slightest clue why.
Didn't enjoy it much.
0 SolarAquarion 2014-03-18
You can mod me with just Flair, Mail, post, Access and wiki perms. Those perms are the only ones i need.
I am up from 6 AM to 12 AM. EST
0 yahoo_bot 2014-03-18
I can mod, you know me dong and I can fix or improve or change the CSS, etc... I mod /r/governmentoppression and /r/oneworldgovernment and I'm member of most of the invite conspiracy subreddits.
I also believe in banning conspiratard trolls, it actually works. Creating new accounts is easy, but its time consuming.
Political propaganda is not conspiracy, so I would consider any communist/socialist/fascist piece promoting big government and central control as propaganda spam, especially memes.
Everything else I think should be okay and allowed to be upvoted or downvoted, community should decide.
-1 mjh808 2014-03-18
there seems to be more shills in /r/conspiracy than researchers, when are you going to start banning this low life scum?
-1 4to3 2014-03-18
Can we please get a mod who isn't some self-appointed political correctness policeman for the JIDF?
-1 iamagod_ 2014-03-18
As long as the rules are fair and apply to evrtyone, I would gladly serve our incredible sub here. /r/conspiracy is home. It's always been home.
2 Ambiguously_Ironic 2014-03-18
I'd vote for you.
-1 [deleted] 2014-03-18
Was I carefully considered, as well?
-2 Doc---Hopper 2014-03-18
I think it's time to give the people what they want. I will moderate. Everyone knows me, and knows what I stand for. I promote this subreddit across Reddit, and stand up for it when people attempt to denounce it. I call out the moderators here when their actions become questionable. I will not stop, and to be able to do so from the perspective of moderator means that this subreddit will remain credible and allow the People to have a voice.
5 gavy101 2014-03-18
You seem like you want to collect moderator status from as many subreddits as you can, rather then actually being good at doing it.
5 [deleted] 2014-03-18
Yeah, he's been begging to be a mod of this sub for a long time. I can't think of many who would be worse for the job.
-4 oblivioustoobvious 2014-03-18
So wanting to become a moderator makes someone not right for the job? Why can't you think of many who would be worse?
-6 Doc---Hopper 2014-03-18
Do you even come here? I'm in this subreddit all day, accounted for. I'm one of the most vocal people on here. As far as moderating goes, the only subreddits I "moderate" besides /r/Nutrition are ones that I created, which by the way are empty. The subreddits I frequent are /r/NYC and /r/conspiracy, and would be happy to moderate one that I have a connection to.
7 gavy101 2014-03-18
It is definitely a no now, you are really the opposite of what this sub needs.
-1 oblivioustoobvious 2014-03-18
Why?
1 [deleted] 2014-03-18
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1 oblivioustoobvious 2014-03-18
No need for personal attacks. Are you able to answer the question legitimately or not?
Why is /u/Doc---Hopper the opposite of what this sub needs? Because the opposite of what this sub needs is personal attacks from people like you.
-1 gavy101 2014-03-18
You have me confused with someone who cares about your argument.
Good luck in your endeavour
0 oblivioustoobvious 2014-03-18
I see that you are unable to answer my simple question of, "Why?"
-2 gavy101 2014-03-18
You are way too intelligent for me to discourse with.
0 oblivioustoobvious 2014-03-18
This is obvious. I just want to know why you believe that /u/Doc---Hopper would be a poor moderator.
I now realize that you're simply diverting because you have no legitimate answer.
0 dsprox 2014-03-18
Where were you yesterday?
I actually was on just about all day, I didn't see you post anything even once.
-1 [deleted] 2014-03-18
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2 dsprox 2014-03-18
This is what you plan to bring to the table as moderator, insults?
-1 Doc---Hopper 2014-03-18
Come back when you get some credibility in here. No one knows you, or cares what you think.
1 dsprox 2014-03-18
http://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/20rcoh/rconspiracy_is_recruiting/cg6gslx
http://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/20rcoh/rconspiracy_is_recruiting/cg626cq
Not only are you being incredibly hostile and rude, but you are factually wrong.
Are you having a bad day, or do you have a problem you'd like to talk about?
I'm here man.
0 Shandd 2014-03-18
Lol and you want to be a mod
0 joseph177 2014-03-18
What is your stance on 9/11?
4 mr_dong 2014-03-18
The question is, is that what people here want?
11 SovereignMan 2014-03-18
IMHO, Doc---Hopper would not be a good choice.
-1 oblivioustoobvious 2014-03-18
How come?
2 SovereignMan 2014-03-18
Temper tantrums.
0 oblivioustoobvious 2014-03-18
Thanks for the response.
5 [deleted] 2014-03-18
With all due respect, not no, but hell no.
1 oblivioustoobvious 2014-03-18
How come?
3 TheGhostOfDusty 2014-03-18
Nope.
2 oblivioustoobvious 2014-03-18
How come?
0 Doc---Hopper 2014-03-18
They sure didn't want /u/solidwhetstone, and you see how well /u/SovereignMan worked out...I would just love the opportunity to prove myself worthy.
3 mr_dong 2014-03-18
Community decides ultimately and for the record SovereignMan was great whilst he was here, he didn't do anything wrong and chose to step down of his own accord. He was also voted it by the community at the time and in my eyes is solid and a loss to the team.
Good luck.
-7 Doc---Hopper 2014-03-18
Since when has "the community" decided, besides when you got a bunch of new subscribers to vote in your buddy there one time, who by the way couldn't handle it and stepped down? If you want to call it a "vote" (it wasn't), then please note that it happened all of once in the history of this subreddit. I know for a fact that you didn't get "voted" in, no one had a say when you or the other mods in here got put in, so don't make it like it's some prestigious election in this laughably democratic subreddit. The fact that you would even attempt to project it as such is insulting to the longtime members in here. Propaganda like that is exactly what this community is against- clearly you are in a position that you would be expected to know that.
4 mr_dong 2014-03-18
See this post? It's asking for help and nominations. That is all we can do as existing moderators, consult the readers and subscribers. Same as last time really.
I find your attack a little short-sighted considering this is all out in the open. What would you have us do when recruiting or taking on board new help? I was asked to moderate my illuminatedwax some years ago. I can post you the link if you wish or if you think i am a liar.
-2 Doc---Hopper 2014-03-18
I know the subreddit's history quite well- I've been around forever. I remember when you got made a mod, I also remember when everyone else was made one. Some deserving (/u/9000sins), some nosomuch /u/FlyTape). I'm being up front with you, and if that is the dealbreaker, so be it- but I stand behind my words. If I get made a moderator, I will moderate the rest of you.. If I think there is some fugazi shit going on at the top, you all are going to hear about it. I make no apologies for that, but I just want to go on record and let the community as well as the other moderators know where I stand.
1 [deleted] 2014-03-18
The community decided last time, and all mods chosen were well known and well respected. And quite frankly, still are. What's insulting is how you are acting.
-1 oblivioustoobvious 2014-03-18
Why is it insulting?
2 Shandd 2014-03-18
The fact that you're arguing with every one makes me think it's a nonstarter
-3 oblivioustoobvious 2014-03-18
Why? Makes me think they'd be a good moderator.
4 Shandd 2014-03-18
I dunno
I think a mod is supposed to work with a community and if the community doesn't agree they should follow what the community thinks is best
-1 oblivioustoobvious 2014-03-18
Unfortunately this community is infected. That makes moderating to the liking of the majority of the users very tough and most likely impossible.
1 Shandd 2014-03-18
But i've seen it work both ways. Solid is a mod in Chicago and I saw them crucify him here. But when Flytape does shitty things I never heard a word about it here. I acknowledge I'm not an active participant in this sub (or reddit in general to be honest) but I've been on reddit for a long time and I've just always found it best for a mod to follow a community, being that the community is their lifeblood. Just my 2 cents
4 oblivioustoobvious 2014-03-18
Understandable. I simply see /r/conspiracy as unique because it has a major problem with disrupters. Whether these people are simply trolls or actually have an agenda to spread misinformation, the community has a problem. This makes moderators following the community to be a trickier task.
1 Shandd 2014-03-18
Which is a totally fair point.
-2 oblivioustoobvious 2014-03-18
Hopefully you're not going to take the ~10 commenter's opinions here as what "the people" want.
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1 [deleted] 2014-03-18
lol
-2 alllie 2014-03-18
A nine month account with 6 link karma? I think not.
-2 Doc---Hopper 2014-03-18
Oh god give me a break. If you don't know my history in here, then you don't come here enough to even have a say in who moderates.
1 [deleted] 2014-03-18
And if she does know your history here then she would have no doubts in voting no.
1 oblivioustoobvious 2014-03-18
I do not know their history but you seem to. So could you please enlighten me?
-4 alllie 2014-03-18
9 months
6 link karma
0 oblivioustoobvious 2014-03-18
What's your point?
0 Doc---Hopper 2014-03-18
/u/DocHopper, among others. Know your history.
-2 TimmayTheTurtle 2014-03-18
I volunteer if the help is needed. I can do whatever is needed. Be happy to help this awesome subreddit!
2 [deleted] 2014-03-18
Timmay the Turtle, he's givin' 'em hell
Timmay the Turtle he's out of his shell
Timmay the Tuuuuuurtle!
0 gavy101 2014-03-18
If we are voting, then Timmay is a no.
2 TimmayTheTurtle 2014-03-18
I don't think we are voting.
0 gavy101 2014-03-18
No, thankfully not.
-1 oblivioustoobvious 2014-03-18
Why do you feel this way?
0 gavy101 2014-03-18
RES. Any more questions?
1 oblivioustoobvious 2014-03-18
What about RES has caused you to feel that /u/TimmayTheTurtle would not be a suitable moderator?
0 gavy101 2014-03-18
That it is easy to see who are complete idiots over vast time frames.
Have you installed it yet?
2 TimmayTheTurtle 2014-03-18
Don't understand what you're getting at.
0 gavy101 2014-03-18
No, you do not.
2 TimmayTheTurtle 2014-03-18
So why don't you tell me?
1 oblivioustoobvious 2014-03-18
Still waiting on a reply:
1 oblivioustoobvious 2014-03-18
What caused you to label /u/TimmayTheTurtle as a complete idiot?
3 EnoughNoLibsSpam 2014-03-18
He labels everyone as a complete idiot. It helps him feel better about his lot in life.
0 TimmayTheTurtle 2014-03-18
What are you talking about?
I have tagged maybe 15 people and it's either for complete ignorance in talking in this sub or other or for funny things.
5 oblivioustoobvious 2014-03-18
/u/EnoughNoLibsSpam was talking about /u/gavy101 tagging you as a complete idiot.
1 TimmayTheTurtle 2014-03-18
Hmmm doesn't bother me.
-4 alllie 2014-03-18
No.you're just a gamer.
3 oblivioustoobvious 2014-03-18
What's your point?
3 TimmayTheTurtle 2014-03-18
Alright?
1 StoneTheKrow 2014-03-18
Yeah. You're kinda being a judgemental ass. Who do you want as a new mod?
-2 Person_McName 2014-03-18
I'd volunteer, but I feel like it wouldn't end well. Also I'm not in Europe.
-2 HauntedOcean 2014-03-18
I volunteer to mod. I wouldn't be at all lenient towards GLP-tier crap involving illuminati codes or obvious doom/fear candy, though. so if you get your entertainment from that you probably wouldnt like me
-3 alllie 2014-03-18
No.
-1 oblivioustoobvious 2014-03-18
What is wrong with /u/HauntedOcean?
2 Letterbocks 2014-03-18
Well it's not a mods job to be dictating content that is appropriate but not to their particular tastes, imo.
-1 oblivioustoobvious 2014-03-18
I was asking /u/alllie.
2 dsprox 2014-03-18
So what? How is that relevant?
You actually didn't directly ask /u/alllie , you just posed a question in response to her statement, a question which could be easily answered by anybody based on the context of /u/hauntedocean and their original post.
2 oblivioustoobvious 2014-03-18
It is relevant because I was specifically asking /u/alllie . I was specifically asking /u/alllie because throughout this submission /u/alllie has been denying person after person applying moderation. I don't believe there was one person who commented on more applications than /u/alllie .
It's to the point where I simply agreed with /u/Three_Letter_Agency applying to become a moderator so /u/alllie here felt that was enough of a reason to be against /u/Three_Letter_Agency becoming a moderator.
I cannot tell if it's immaturity, stupidity, or what but that's why I am asking /u/alllie why she feels the way she does about users. She's being the most vocal and at the same time not making any logical sense.
You do not know the intentions of my comment. My question in response to her statement was a question directed towards /u/alllie regardless if I explicitly addressed her and regardless of if the question is answerable by somebody else.
3 dsprox 2014-03-18
Ok, I fully understand now.
Sorry, thanks for clearing up the confusion!
-2 andrewmccarthyism 2014-03-18
I put my oddly shaped hat in the ring! I would love to do it!
-2 Romulus212 2014-03-18
I have no alliances and don't fuck around with illogical or unsound arguments i don't give a shit about karma upvotes what other people think of those things or Reddit for that matter. But please choose me to be a mod because when we get some people with zero fucks to give we can break or follow any rule we choose.
-3 agentlame 2014-03-18
I'd like to apply. As a mod here I will enforce the sidebar as written and not allow unwritten rule to be abused for the purpose of censorship.
I also promise not to lie publically about bannings as we've all seen mods like /u/AssuredlyAThrowAway do in the past.
EDIT
Below /u/AssuredlyAThrowAway once again lied publically about these unwritten rules and bannings.
EDIT2
Below an account that is a month old, possibly works for InfoWars, chimes in to say I should be banned after pointing out facts that /u/AssuredlyAThrowAway refuses to answer.
EDIT3
Flytape responds! They never broke rule #9, and poor /u/AssuredlyAThrowAway is no where to be found.
3 AssuredlyAThrowAway 2014-03-18
This account is a default mod who works in /r/technology and censors stories for reddit inc. The chances of this application being accepted are 0%.
-1 agentlame 2014-03-18
I figured as much. I know last time we talked you were extremely worried about the subscribers of /r/conspiracy knowing about your abuse, censorship and unwritten rules.
Which you've again tried to deflect from. Why are you so concerned about people knowing the truth?
3 AssuredlyAThrowAway 2014-03-18
Your transparent attempts to deflect from your own malfeasance by libelously attacking the mods here has been noted time and time again.
I get it, you got pissy when we pointed out how the comcast/netflix agreement was being censored from /r/technology at all costs. Or perhaps you got pissy when your wanton prohibition on NSA stories was exposed.
What I find funny is that your cause celebre is rule 9 being enforced on those who attack this sub.
But that aside, your tactics of manipulation are not welcome here and if you continue to engage in veiled ad hominems designed to infect this community you will be submitted to the modmail for banning.
Thanks.
-1 [deleted] 2014-03-18
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2 AssuredlyAThrowAway 2014-03-18
Man antique jetpack must pay you good money to hunt down it's opponents like this agentlame. Tell Alexis he can suck my balls.
0 agentlame 2014-03-18
So you're admitting to lying about rule #9?
2 AssuredlyAThrowAway 2014-03-18
I'm pointing out you're here engaging in libelous cognitive manipulation for a reason.
-1 agentlame 2014-03-18
It's on liable if it's untrue.
The following are facts:
Rule #9 reads "Posting links in other subs pointing to specific submissions or comments here is subject to a ban"
This comment is not a "link in another subreddit pointing to specific submissions or comments in /r/conspiracy."
If you are claiming either of those facts are untrue, I'd like you to say which is untrue and why. If you chose not to do so, you are, once again, lying publically about why they were banned. If you deflect from the question, you are, once again, lying publically about why they were banned. If you try to change the subject, you are, once again, lying publically about why they were banned. If you make baseless accusations against me, you are, once again, lying publically about why they were banned.
2 [deleted] 2014-03-18
Why isn't this guy banned?
-1 [deleted] 2014-03-18
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2 [deleted] 2014-03-18
Of course I'm an alt for AssuredlyAThrowAway.
Are you not attacking the mods?
-1 agentlame 2014-03-18
I'm not attacking them. I am asking them pointed questions and responding to them with facts.
Since you refuse to answer from you main account, I'll ask you again. Which of these two facts are untrue:
Rule #9 reads "Posting links in other subs pointing to specific submissions or comments here is subject to a ban"
This comment is not a "link in another subreddit pointing to specific submissions or comments in /r/conspiracy."
5 Flytape 2014-03-18
I'll just go ahead and tell you the truth about the "subredditoftheday" bannings.
One mod was drinking heavily and was drunk, got really upset about the mockery there and banned some people who shouldn't have been banned.
Wooooooo!
Big fucking deal. Drunk people doing drunk people things. And while we're being honest I going to go ahead and say that I personally didn't mind the subreddit of the day post because it just shows the lack of credibility of SOTD as well as bipolarbear0.
If anyone who got banned wants to appeal they are welcome to it, it would likely be overturned by one mod or another.
0 agentlame 2014-03-18
Thank you, dude!!!! Thank you, thank you, thank you.
I have nothing more to say about the subject and will never bring it up again.
2 AssuredlyAThrowAway 2014-03-18
Sorry agentlame, I wasnt drunk when I enforced rule 9 in the instance you mentioned. Not sure what flytape is referencing here and he sure as hell is not talking about me.
3 Flytape 2014-03-18
No I wasn't speaking of you.
2 AssuredlyAThrowAway 2014-03-18
Indeed. Try not to feed agentlame he is a reddit inc operative, as I'm sure you know.
3 Flytape 2014-03-18
I'm fine with banning him. He is clearly just stirring shit.
1 AssuredlyAThrowAway 2014-03-18
I'm down with it.
-1 agentlame 2014-03-18
And still you try!!!
Busted for lying over and over and over and over, and still you go on! Lying where everyone can see it! Why do you do this to yourself?
2 AssuredlyAThrowAway 2014-03-18
Because flytape was talking about sarah_connor in that instance...sorry to burst your bubble as you continually attempt to deflect from your butthurt with vacuous ad hominems.
You think I'm following you with alt accounts lol you are one paranoid internet person.
2 Flytape 2014-03-18
Actually Sarah.
2 SovereignMan 2014-03-18
Nope. Not me. I think it was Sarah_Connor.
1 AssuredlyAThrowAway 2014-03-18
Ah okay, sorry about that sir.
1 SovereignMan 2014-03-18
No problem.
1 agentlame 2014-03-18
Which fact is not true:
Rule #9 reads "Posting links in other subs pointing to specific submissions or comments here is subject to a ban"
This comment is not a "link in another subreddit pointing to specific submissions or comments in /r/conspiracy."
2 [deleted] 2014-03-18
I'm sorry, but that's attacking.
1 agentlame 2014-03-18
Wait, you're saying asking the mods any questions and bringing up facts is 'attacking' them? How?
Also, why did you not respond to which facts are untrue?
2 [deleted] 2014-03-18
That's not what I'm saying.
They're both true, but I don't think #2 means what you think it means.
1 agentlame 2014-03-18
How so?
Also, did you see where flytape even said that they were banned because some mod was drunk?
2 [deleted] 2014-03-18
Are you suggesting someone was banned for posting that?
No.
1 agentlame 2014-03-18
I'm not. /u/AssuredlyAThrowAway is... he said they were banned under rule #9 for that comment.
Here.
2 [deleted] 2014-03-18
So what was the problem with that post labelled #2?
1 agentlame 2014-03-18
The user that was banned didn't make that post. I linked to a comment that said "this made me smile" that comment isn't a link to this subreddit in anyway at all... that user was banned for making that comment.
-4 mrga666 2014-03-18
Count me in, I can easily spot propaganda and trolls. Sadly I have only been a lurker so far for which I am sorry but publishing non-factual things would be immoral for me. 64
-1 alllie 2014-03-18
When hell freezes over.
2 oblivioustoobvious 2014-03-18
What don't you like about /u/mrga666?
-4 14__88 2014-03-18
I'd like to offer myself up for the job.
-6 alllie 2014-03-18
You've got ten mods. Why isn't that enough? Especially considering you might recruit an intelligence agent.
At least make it a long time user that we know. Not someone with a newish account or some one we don't know or who hasn't been active here for a long time. I think the admins make fake accounts since the new shill accounts were easy to identify. But lately I've seen more users with 5, 6, 7, even 8 year accounts than I've seen in the previous 6 years. It's made me very suspicious. And they don't show up on karmawhore so no one through the years ever did an inquiry on them.
How about Orangutan?
8 mr_dong 2014-03-18
Half of the mods here are not active and we are also fully aware of taking on board new accounts as moderators allie.
1 gavy101 2014-03-18
What is the criteria? What are you after? For the record, i can not afford the time.
9 axolotl_peyotl 2014-03-18
It needs to be somebody the entire community knows, first of all.
This isn't about a "prestige" thing...mr_dong is right in that the sub is growing and we need very active and engaged users who have a solid understanding of what it means to actually be a mod at /r/conspiracy.
It's a fairly thankless task, and I think part of our goal for the future needs to be to remove the stigma associated with this place.
1 KhalifaKid 2014-03-18
Yo dude. I want to help out. I'm not sure if everybody knows me or remembers me from any of the multiple front page posts I've had here. I'd also like to point out that during the Bradley Manning sentencing I got the collateral murder video at number 2 on /r/all before it was removed. That was my alternate account, which I can provide credentials for.
Please consider my application, go through my history! We've butted heads before but I'd like to think you guys know I have the communities interest in mind always!
And if it counts for anything, I am in v2
-3 alllie 2014-03-18
I'm just saying I'm seeing accounts that look old but which I suspect are fake.
4 oblivioustoobvious 2014-03-18
Then why the fuck are you even trying to use account age as a deciding factor when you're already suspicious to begin with?
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0 Doc---Hopper 2014-03-18
They sure didn't want /u/solidwhetstone, and you see how well /u/SovereignMan worked out...I would just love the opportunity to prove myself worthy.
3 TheGhostOfDusty 2014-03-18
Nope.
5 [deleted] 2014-03-18
With all due respect, not no, but hell no.
11 SovereignMan 2014-03-18
IMHO, Doc---Hopper would not be a good choice.
6 axolotl_peyotl 2014-03-18
You're being a negative nancy :(
9 Three_Letter_Agency 2014-03-18
for what its worth, this is not my first conspiracy account, I have deleted older ones. My oldest account is over 4 years old but I stopped using it before I began participating here.
-1 alllie 2014-03-18
We need people who have been here long enough, that have a history, so we're pretty sure they aren't shills.
-3 alllie 2014-03-18
Just let Orangutan mod. She has the history, is known and has a good rep and is active here. If it doesn't work out, we can try again.
0 gavy101 2014-03-18
RES. Any more questions?
-2 oblivioustoobvious 2014-03-18
Hopefully you're not going to take the ~10 commenter's opinions here as what "the people" want.
2 oblivioustoobvious 2014-03-18
/u/alllie , how long is long enough necessary for somebody to become a moderator?
How long is long enough? And how do you know that he doesn't have time? That's up to him/her and not you.
2 oblivioustoobvious 2014-03-18
You cannot show you're not a shill because you cannot prove a negative.
5 ENYAY7 2014-03-18
And I've never seen a post of yours on the front page , granted I'm not looking at account names usually. Link karma shouldn't be a factor. Also proving to not be a shill seems impossible. But you having half million link karma makes me think multiple people may use your account. So maybe you are a shill
5 Canadian_POG 2014-03-18
Ooh ok yeah I remember hearing about that, it was way before I was even on Reddit but my bro told me about the whole Cooper angle, but holy shit, every comment in that thread deleted, community standards my ass, safe to say reddit inc has every Admin in their pocket.
Appreciate the links btw.
1 StoneTheKrow 2014-03-18
Well he did advertise for a book he wrote. Not necessarily shill but definitely monetary gain and credibility. Not for or against him. Just saying.
6 [deleted] 2014-03-18
/u/quantumcipher is a gooder. I second that!
1 curiosity36 2014-03-18
A gentleman and a scholar. Taking a look at his post history assures he's done a service to the sub:
http://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/search?q=quantumcipher&restrict_sr=on
2 Ambiguously_Ironic 2014-03-18
I agree with both of these.
2 Ambiguously_Ironic 2014-03-18
I'd vote for you.
5 Three_Letter_Agency 2014-03-18
Nope. Only corporation I ever worked at was bartending for an Irish pub.
2 Ambiguously_Ironic 2014-03-18
The vote counts need to be tangible and accounted for. As it stands now, there's literally no way at all to verify whether the numbers are correct or not.
This answer is right on the money.