Question for those of you who think Sandy Hook was a staged Hoax.

12  2014-04-01 by [deleted]

I live a town over from Newtown, CT. I have been researching about some of the Sandy Hook event theories. After seeing odd things like the Robbie Parker "getting into character" video, and the Parker family photo photoshops, among other things there is some weird stuff surrounding the event. I chose to reference these, because many of the theories seem very speculative, but these are some glaringly obvious oddities that leave me with a big question mark.

I feel that it is hard to say one way or another what actually happened that day, because there is incomplete evidence on either side.

I brought up these things with my mother yesterday and she also agreed that they are very odd. Although, being so close geographically to SH, my family knows many people connected to the alleged victims of that day.

Anyway my question is, having heard testimony from my mother yesterday about her personal connections to people who knew the victims families and medical staff who worked on victims at Danbury hospital. My sister also played basketball with the teacher who was allegedly killed, Soto, so she was not made up. How is it possible that these alleged victims didn't actually exist/weren't actually killed when I hear so many people in my life talking about the connections to the victims?

How is it possible to discredit all the people who have connections to these families?

Let me know what you think. Thanks.

33 comments

Have you ever seen the Bloomberg emails that went out the same day as Sandy hook happened? Really disgusting

http://gunfreezone.net/wordpress/index.php/2014/01/10/surfing-in-blood-part-1-bloombergs-sandy-hook-quick-response-team/

I heard about this yesterday but didn't get a chance to read it yet. I'll check it out and get back to you shortly, thanks for the link.

It's pretty disgusting. 12 hours after a bunch of kids get killed, they're emailing back and forth about how best to take advantage of it/which celebs to get for commercials/etc.

Despicable.

It's like, what do you want gun control for again? because you care so much about tragedies like this? doesn't really seem that way.

I don't wish death on anyone but i wouldn't mind seeing bloomberg take a short trip down a long flight of stairs. Power hungry piece of shit.

Really disgusting

Damn you said it. That is pretty shocking. It's like they are saying "OMG yes this is our chance! we have been waiting for this." Not even 3 hours later, and they are talking about ads to promote their agenda and using survivors for it, terrible.

having heard testimony from my mother yesterday about her personal connections to people who knew the victims families and medical staff who worked on victims at Danbury hospital...

Which victims were worked on?

Who said that ALL of these people are fictional? Yes, there are real people participating in this charade. Real people who other real people actually know. Just knowing someone, who knows someone participating in this drill (who all got free houses, by the way) means a little less than nothing in regards to what really happened.

Considering the very, very, basic examples you've presented, I would imagine you've only come to know about Sandy Hook being a fraud recently, and if you bother to do enough research you'll come to an obvious conclusion. Everyone with any sense does.

They didn't get free houses the date was a placeholder in the database, while it was being updated.

if you bother to do enough research

I've been researching for some time, but it seems that many of the theories have a high amount of speculation. However I do find that the official report also contains speculation. Even the report that Adam Lanza was the shooter has a severe lack of concrete evidence. If there was just one video or picture of Adam anywhere near that school it would settle much of this, but there is not. There is not a single picture of the crime scene inside the school, and I get that they don't want pictures of victims on the internet, but there isn't any non-victim crime scene photos either.

Also that there was no blood cleanup is super strange, and that they knocked down the school, apparently while all the blood was still in there. Super weird.

you'll come to an obvious conclusion

I don't think it is an obvious conclusion either way, too much speculation.

In your mind, what is the most compelling evidence that this is a hoax? since you are so researched, maybe you have read or seen something that I haven't seen yet.

I have no doubt that children were killed at SH but that's about all I believe of the official story. I can't think of a single justification for the secrecy of the government, except for the obvious answer: they're lying. When you compare SH to prior mass shootings like Columbine, Virginia Tech, and Aurora, SH stands out in many ways:

  • The events of SH stopped happening about 9:45am on Dec 14th. The official story changed continuously for the next 5 days, until, finally, the AR-15 was the weapon they claimed was used. An AR-15, in a close quarters scenario like SH, would have been awkward. The Izmash Saiga-12 magazine fed shotgun, purported to be in his car, would have been the first choice. Next, would have been the pistols.
  • Columbine HS, Virginia Tech's Norris Hall, and the Aurora movie theater are still standing. Why was SH torn down and down so quickly? Why were the demo workers forced to sign a non-disclosure agreement?
  • How could 112 lb Adam Lanza carry 100lbs worth of gear/ammo and still dispatch 27 people in the 600 seconds purported by police? Particularly, when most victims were shot numerous times in numerous rooms.
  • Where is the security camera footage? The authorities could debunk all of these "conspiracy theories" if they released the clip of Lanza acting alone with an AR-15. In Columbine, you can find nearly the entire episode on the internet to include the shooters suicides. In Aurora, they released still shots from the lobby security camera.

The official story changed continuously for the next 5 days, until, finally, the AR-15 was the weapon they claimed was used.

The very first news conference the next day said that all the victims at the school were shot with the AR-15. The police never changed the story. The confusion was caused by people re-posting old news stories (from before the first press conference) over and over again.

Columbine HS, Virginia Tech's Norris Hall, and the Aurora movie theater are still standing. Why was SH torn down and down so quickly?

Columbine HS was extensively remodeled over the summer and the library where most of the killings happened was torn down. The site of the Amish school shooting was also demolished quickly.

Norris Hall is still standing, but the classrooms where the shootings happened are not used as classrooms.

How could 112 lb Adam Lanza carry 100lbs worth of gear/ammo and still dispatch 27 people in the 600 seconds purported by police?

It was 30.47 pounds.

Where is the security camera footage?

There was no video recorder attached to the security camera. It was just used so that personnel in the office could see who was at the front door.

The very first news conference the next day said that all the victims at the school were shot with the AR-15. The police never changed the story. The confusion was caused by people re-posting old news stories (from before the first press conference) over and over again.

Nope. Originally, they said the shootings were done with handguns. I even made a FB post the day after, saying that by Wednesday they'd have that AR-15 in the building. It only took until Monday.

Norris Hall is still standing, but the classrooms where the shootings happened are not used as classrooms.

Norris Hall is used for engineering labs. The building is still standing, probably because they weren't worried about rounds of an inconvenient caliber or an inconvenient shot pattern being found like SH.

There was no video recorder attached to the security camera. It was just used so that personnel in the office could see who was at the front door.

That's so implausible, it's funny. That's like buying a car with no wheels.

Nope. Originally, they said the shootings were done with handguns. I even made a FB post the day after, saying that by Wednesday they'd have that AR-15 in the building. It only took until Monday.

The police made no official statements on Friday about what weapons were used. Some media reported rumors of "only handguns: being used.

At the very first press conference, which was on Saturday, Lt. Vance said:

There's been questions about the weaponry and I'd like to take a minute to discuss with you briefly — very superficially — some of the information that we can release at this time.

The weapon that was utilized most of the time during this horrific crime was identified as a Bushmaster AR-15 assault type weapon. It had high-capacity magazines.

In addition to that, the subject had in his possession a Glock 10mm, a Sig Sauer 9mm — both weapons — all weapons had multiple magazines and additional ammunition.

The fourth weapon recovered was a shotgun that was recovered from the suspect's vehicle that was parked outside the school.

You say "That's so implausible, it's funny. That's like buying a car with no wheels." It's used so that people can be buzzed inside from the office. I've seen systems like this at many schools. I don't know what use a videotape system would be if the camera only covered the front door.

Kids died. Adam Lanza was not the only shooter. He had handlers of some kind. If he even existed because I am still skeptical of the whole Adam Ryan thing. No security footage? Not even a still of him entering the school? I'm sorry but this is bullshit. Sandy Hook is a widely known conspiracy. Just end the fucking debate. They can't though.

Check this out for more info: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T91ZXZjdAjc

The way I look at the situation is all of the people were paid to talk/disappear. Everybody has a price and the anti gun politicians have a lot of money. (Off topic: There's a story you guys don't even know about which happened around here involving them using their money and coverups.) What convinced me without a doubt Sandy Hook was a hoax was when Obama came on TV telling us we should feel bad for "These poor mothers" or something like that. It was like he cued them to fake cry for a couple of seconds. All because we want to keep our guns.

I smell a bait with this thread.

its a fishhook thread.

Say what?

Its not a bait thread, I want to hear opinions because I am on the fence about what happened that day. Cognitive dissonance is leading me to ask this question.

well take this into account.

The FBI has never classified or gotten involved in a school shooting investigation before, They did with sandy hook. That should tell you that something is not right.

Also the whole entire narrative of the shooting has so many investigation plot holes, and things not adding up it might aswell be Swisscheese hook.

And Something else I don't think a lot of people realize is that you know those pictures of the kids walking in a line holding onto eachother?

Those were taken in the schools front parking lot, Meaning the Cops and Disturbingly enough the Media where on the scene so early(and in position) that The kids were being evacuated as the shooting was going on.

Also Theres a lot of strange stuff relating to the media and the police presence that day aswell, and that's something that needs to be carefully looked at.

Strange media indeed. Press conferences that day with the medical examiner and police chief were very strange and tableau-esque. The Robby Parker video was the most ridiculous one though, IMO.

The FBI has never classified or gotten involved in a school shooting investigation before,

Bullshit.

http://vault.fbi.gov/Columbine%20High%20School

The FBI assisted local law enforcement by investigating additional threats and Internet leads, conducting witness interviews, and processing physical evidence. The FBI’s file details the initial investigation and contains witness interviews between April 21, 1999 and May 5, 1999.

Hmmm still that's interesting all things aside.

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You mean apart from the thousands and thousands of pages of documentation from the investigation which have been released?

http://cspsandyhookreport.ct.gov/

Must been some new definition of "classified" of which I wasn't aware.

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Source? Because the released documents actually do appear to include FBI files. See here, for example

http://sandyhooklighthouse.wordpress.com/2014/02/13/the-fbis-interview-with-ryan-lanza/

I've heard Satanism is pretty prevalent in SH. There are many photos of the Parker girls doing the devil horn signs. Also a photo of some old guy throwing the goat in a photo with the teacher.

Could be sacrifice or something where everybody really died, just not as we are told.

Could be just a group of people all telling the same lie.

Dunno. Pretty weird stuff though.

There are many photos of the Parker girls doing the devil horn signs.

No offense intended but you could find tens of thousands of them at any Dio or Black Sabbath concert. Or many others.

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I'm on the fence to but if you go as far to say its some cult ritual it could be that it wasn't there biological children just there sex slaves or some twisted cult shit like that.

My uncle lived in Danbury when it went down and said he knew people that worked in the morgue and that it was extremely upsetting an unsettling for those that worked there. I don't doubt many died. But I firmly believe in ancient strains of demon worship that have permeated through the ages which heavily involve ritual sacrifice. It was undoubtedly a false flag. Any event that coincides directly with the globalist agenda and receives massive televised coverage usually is. Does this mean innocents were not murdered? No. Does this mean there was no shooter? No. But I really think something deeper is at work here. And this area of Connecticut and much of the surrounding area is extremely wealthy and I have no doubt in my mind that many people around there secretly and openly engage in occult practice and Crowleyan/thelema

undoubtedly

IMO, there is not nearly enough evidence to be using words like undoubtedly. Conversely, it was not undoubtedly committed by Adam Lanza.

Any event that coincides directly with the globalist agenda and receives massive televised coverage usually is.

So all major events that are related to globalist agenda that is a false flag operation? The government for sure does not let a good tragedy go to waste (see 9/11) but it doesn't necessarily mean it was a false flag (9/11 probably was). Maybe it was, but not undoubtedly.

What, in your opinion, is the most compelling piece of evidence?

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All of the "old money" rich whites I know with questionable ties to occult practices are all from Fairfield and/or Westchester county.