Shill technique #185: spread a sense of hopelessness

101  2014-04-05 by [deleted]

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42 comments

Wow, nice find. This is why we don't have nice things.

Shills usually make attempts to post in random sub reddits to cover their tracks. Many of them repost old material in an attempt to gain a karmic reputation and look more legit, like this shill:

http://www.reddit.com/user/MintJoy

100% reposts and anti-russian propaganda. This site is becoming a shill cesspool

you got 14 downvotes in an hour for this post. they are trying to derail us...wonder if they upvote the stupid lizard overlord posts as well.

Derail is an accurate word. Probably a significant portion of the crazier r/conspiracy posts and their comments are the the works of a network of sock puppets. The goal of course is to derail legitimate discussion.

No matter their goal, any motherfucker who makes deceit his mission in life or accepts financial gain for lying is a dirty, detestable motherfucker and will pay for their transgressions in this life or the next.

Or the sockpuppets are actually the opposite of government shills, shilling to upset people about spying.

I would be in favor of this to a point... but then it's much like the crime fighter becoming a criminal in the name of fighting crime... slippery slope. In current context, still wouldn't have a problem with this morally, I think. lol

Upvote them? They SUBMIT them.

Nothing will be done by anyone.

im sorry

Extremely nice find. The artificial machinations of the insincere are increasingly lazy/sloppy/obvious

Incredibly. With how much they've spent on this, you would expect that they would at least give this their all. Shit, I know I would personally if I were in their shoes after selling my soul and deciding that every other human can Fuck off. This has just been sad and pathetic, telecasting their every move.

They are giving it their all. Universal truth doesn't bend to the will of false prophets nor the greedy and wicked.

Prove him wrong.

Just don't be an ass in doing such things.

Use your words, your actions (non-violent), and your vote and make your story count for something.

Inform, persuade, and educate where you can.

Don't be desuaded.

Nothing will ever be done?

That's what they want you to think.

You're powerless.

You can't change the status quo.

But you are the status quo.

You are change. o.o

Prove him wrong.

He's already wrong, he just doesn't know it yet. Not my job to set a moral compass for a fucktard.

Just don't be an ass in doing such things.

Haha what? There are three things that deserve no mercy: hypocrisy, fraud, and tyranny.

Oh wait I think I fucked up.. you are being sarcastic. Well fuck it I'm submitting anyway.

Be the change you want to see in the world.

The top comment on the current stickied post about shills is by a mod for the fake truth site 911blogger. So it's worse than you know. Just like in the movies, the bad guy turns out to be the one leading the charge to find the bad guy.

Edit: /u/Orangutan has been a mod for years at 911blogger, which was exposed in the November 2010 issue of the Rock Creek Free Press as a disinfo site. The link goes to a PDF of the hard copy of the paper; the article titled "Is Leading 9/11 Truth Site Working for the Other Side?" is on the front page, below the fold, in the middle.

Below is an excerpt from that article:

A little more than a month after Zwicker’s endorsement of CIT was rejected, the situation repeated itself, when retired NASA aeronautical engineer Dwain Deets recorded a video endorsement of CIT on August 30, 2010 and submitted it to 911blogger. Once again, 911blogger refused, without explanation, to post the endorsement of a highly qualified professional.

Prior to 911blogger rejecting these video endorsements from Zwicker and Deets, nearly all users at 911blogger who were vocal in their support of CIT had been banned. An informal poll easily came up with 25 former users of 911blogger who had been banned without explanation—about half of whom are CIT supporters.

Three of the most well-informed, articulate and prolific CIT supporters were banned simultaneously on May 24, 2010, while in the midst of a heated online debate with 911blogger moderator Erik Larson (aka Loose Nuke). Truth activist Stefan S. of London, England explains it:

“The exact moment that Adam Syed, Adam Ruff and I were banned, we were in mid-debate with Erik Larson. Nothing remotely offensive or rule breaking was being said by any one of us, let alone all three of us at the exact same time.

“What was happening was that Larson had been backed into a corner over a blog entry of his, which was a listing of what he claimed were witnesses to the plane flying south of the Citgo station prior to it striking the Pentagon.

“Not a single one of those witnesses even mentioned Citgo, it was just a collection of laughably tenuous arguments for why ambiguous witness statements must be supportive of the official story. The list was submitted to an intensive analysis and it was shown conclusively that none of the witnesses supported the official flight path, that the list included several witnesses who stated that the plane flew to the north of Citgo, and most strikingly, several who explicitly stated that they were not even in the vicinity at the time of the attack.

“The discussion was drifting into increasingly embarrassing territory for Larson when — presto — all three of us were banned and Larson, in a completely childish fashion, proceeded to have the “last word” in full knowledge that he had just stopped the people he was addressing from being able to respond.

“Larson’s articles are disinformation; the information he puts out there is deliberately false with a motive to undermine genuine research. 911blogger is no longer a 9/11 truth site, that much is clear.”

Spamming one stupid sentence over and over and he still manages to get gold. lol

http://www.reddit.com/r/worldnews/comments/20388i/israeli_troops_shoot_dead_a_palestinianjordanian/cfzh7xn?context=3

Great find.

At first I wondered if it was just an overly cynical Redditor and we were being too harsh. After looking through the user's history, s/he is just literally repeating "nothing will be done by anyone" over and over. Copy and paste. Verbatim.

When you challenge madhatter, thats when he comes alive. With the most defeatist attitude possible.

He is a barnacle. Downvote and ignore.

to turn the drama down in general would be a start, get back to the conspiracy

That would mean I'm shilling as well. I'm nihilistic and sometimes fatalistic about all this. Nothing will get done because nobody wants to do anything. So we just roll over and get buttfucked some more. It is what it is.

I for one, welcome our Globalist Illuminati/Freemason Bankster Overlords.

You know, it's kind of ironic that I'm going to be honest about my hopelessness for this subreddit. The shill count is making it unbearable.

I still come here though

I do things every day. He's welcome to say what ever he likes.

He's not a shill spreading hopelessness, he's spreading reality. As shit gets worse and worse, the most people are willing to do is bitch about it in reddit. Am I wrong? No, not in the slightest.

Disagree? Prove me wrong then. Get off your ass, step away from the computer, and do something. Because as history has clearly shown, nobody else will.

I tend to avoid this sub not because I disagree with it, but because there's no point to it. We just sit around watching as injustice after injustice transpires. But do we do anything about it? Hell no. No, that would take effort, better to whine about it on the internet.

You want things to change, then change them. Until then, I have to chalk this one up to /u/thehadmatter.

Uh...I have a trunk full of bull horns and protest signs. Our last anti-Monsanto rally here in Dallas had THOUSANDS of people of all ages attending. People are waking up and we ARE doing something. Join us if you honestly care about humanity and quit watching television, because you're never gonna get any real hope from that poisonous box. Our revolution is not being televised.

Then let me ask you this, what has changed? Did you accomplish anything other than making it clear that you're pissed off?

sounds pretty shilly to me...

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I was just kidding :)

Do you really think finding one shill of hopelessness will make a difference? What about two? Ten? One-hundred? I wish it mattered, but there are tens of thousands of these. It's almost as ineffective as voting for a third party.

Not sure if ironic.

It doesn't matter. Distraction at best. Idiotic attempt to distract us at worst.

I see what you did there

Oh come on.

He's not spreading a sense of hopelessness he's spreading a sense of urgency.

They are right, nothing will be done. Because people only discuss about things on reddit and then forget about it.

You are crazy if you think they're automatically a shill for saying something we're all thinking

Going over his comments from a year ago, he was more articulate after the first sentence and did convey that, but this year he's just copy pasted one sentence. He is just spreading more apathy whether intentional or not.

Few pages in he got gold for one of his "nothing will be done by anyone." Only 61 upvotes but he got gold. Who would spend $20 for gold on a comment like that?

iirc it was the story about the Jordanian judge shot at an Israeli checkpoint, it wasnt taken as apathy but more of a wake up call as he intended for it to be. He might be a little crazy just for being able to spam that much but I dont think he's a shill.

Most people who do something like that have a novelty account name. Reposting the same apathetic comment only in activist sub reddits? that is very far from normal redditor behavior.

If you read his earlier comments he gives a reason for the sentiment.

but he ONLY posts that one phrase in the activist sub reddits. Never anything else. And he spends a lot of time there.

He used to explain further why he said that before, like khalifakid said it was intended to spread a sense of urgency but is taken as apathy, all the activism doesnt change anything as much as we'd like to think it does, like I said he is at most just a little insane.

Speak for yourself. You really think that low-rent propaganda and fiat currency is going to keep the status quo afloat? The good guys are stretching and taping their hands as we speak

AND.......nothing will be done by anyone!

but he ONLY posts that one phrase in the activist sub reddits. Never anything else. And he spends a lot of time there.

He used to explain further why he said that before, like khalifakid said it was intended to spread a sense of urgency but is taken as apathy, all the activism doesnt change anything as much as we'd like to think it does, like I said he is at most just a little insane.