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It was very politically relevant. Imagine the millions of people discussing the infiltration of governments by rogue elements and the evils of pre-criminal kill-lists.

The algorithm written to find out who's a threat to the government was very scary.

also: it's okay to disobey the government when it goes against your conscience (the SHIELD controlroom scene)

"It was very politically relevant. Imagine the millions of people discussing the infiltration of governments by rogue elements and the evils of pre-criminal kill-lists."

Yes, but now their brain will feel like its talking about a make-believe super-hero movie and not reality.

This can't be overstated.

According to leaks the scale of the movie is highly exaggerated, but all of it is happening already.

• Helicarriers targeting dissidents by data for killing. - “People get hung up that there’s a targeted list of people. It’s really like we’re targeting a cell phone. We’re not going after people – we’re going after their phones, in the hopes that the person on the other end of that missile is the bad guy.”
• The algorithm
• The data leak, should be self explanatory.
  

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quite a few times for me as well, lol.

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It's pro-America, that's what Capt. stands for. Not party or prefrence, but the ideals of life, liberty, and the persuit of happiness.

Oh, and you never back down from a bully, but remember, Capt. uses a shield, not a sword, because we should only attack in situations that demand it (like holocausts).

The scene where the computer systems of the world is one big algorithm that predicts future events in order to be a sort of precognition, and justify a type of eugenics of the population.

I kind of wished the heli-carriers got a chance to kill a few hundred citizens before they were taken down just to show how fucking evil/horrible of a program it was.

Is this a bad idea. Didnt see the film but some people are born with terribly debilitating genetic disease.

Gee Mr.Holdren, I had no idea that you frequent this sub, are you going to do a follow up on your book EcoScience.

If we had complete understanding of genetics contemplating intervening for the betterment of humanity may not be so bad.

Posted this like a week and a half ago, basically the same post... I'm really glad other people see it too!

post a link, i wanna read yours

http://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/21jekn/okay_what_the_fuck_possible_captain_america/

spot on. so many people are having the same reaction to the story

What is hydra?

Basically the Nazi's secret weapons program. Kind of like the NSA.

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Thanks. I guess I could have googled but figured others may not know either.

So why would these topics be put in a main stream fiction movie? Is it to inform the pubic? Or to make such topics seem like fiction and discredit people who discuss such things?

optimist: to warn us and change our future

pessimist: the rules of the powersthatbe is that they have to announce what they're doing in plain sight

or something else that conforms to hegel's dialectic

is hard to trust anything anymore

I fully agree with you. We now live in the Disinformation Age.

guys go on netflix and watch the 3rd last episode of season 3 blue mountain state. It was canceled that season.

Guaranteed there are already algorithms that correlate and identify patterns for individuals to 'keep an eye on' given how much digitized information exists.

The hardware and software capabilities would be too easy to implement. Storage is cheap in a world with hundreds of billions going to 'defense and security'. The lists of such far exceed the number of individual publically acknowledged on any 'terrorist watch lists'.

It is so easy to slurp any and all data. Combined with files we keep on ourselves lik Facebook, text messages, and other easily accumulated information I wouldn't be surprised if some kind of super nsa, network theory wet dream of a database exists that far exceeds the basic Patriot act and surveillance measures only recently coming to light.

I saw this movie yesterday. Could someone put up a comparison of HYDRA to the NSA and America in general? I saw an undeniable link between the movie and actual events.

its the latter two, IMO. have an upvote.

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How so?

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This thread is directed at the new movie, Winter Soldier. It's not about Captain America in general.

What you've stated has been discussed plenty before.

In this movie, Captain America question his own government. He becomes a terrorist. And there's an assassination mission targeting him with a mind-controled (MK-ultra) asset … the Winter Soldier.

If you read captain America comments during the Vietnam war era he is very anti-establishment. He even changes his name from captain America at one point to "Nomad" http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nomad_(comics)

"Rogers returns to the role of Captain America when he realizes that he could champion America's ideals without blindly supporting its government."

Not sure why this would have been downvoted.